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A44228 The harlots vail removed, and her lying refuge swept away by the power of truth, with which she was smitten and wounded being an answer to a book published in the name of about 60 persons of the Independent-Baptized, and mingled peo[ple] in the midst of Babylon, intit'led The church of Christ in Bristol recovering her vail ... : likewise an answer to Thomas Ewins his word, in the close of the said book, in which he acknowledgeth himself no minister ... : also a short rebuke of Ralph Farmer, for lying and dissembling in the case of constant Jessops removing from the parish of Nicholas in the city of Bristol ... : to which are added a few words manifesting the woful fall, and degenerated condition of Richard Fowler ... / by Dennis Hollister. Hollister, Dennis, d. 1676? 1658 (1658) Wing H2507; ESTC R13577 111,205 90

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the knowledge ye had of Christ shall profit you nothing and that your habitation was in deceipt and thorough deceit ye refuse to know the Lord c. Ye say in this thing ye did not violently oppose and then its like ye confess it as knowing it was the truth and why then had ye not repented Ye say some of you did often tell me that your comforts stood not so much in a knowing as in an acknowledgement of Christ to be that which he is said to be in the Scriptures and that ye own no other knowing of Christ then understandingly to know him in his person without you c. which is the sum of most of the 19. page And so have declared and clearly manifested the ground and foundation of all your Religion comforts joy and peace to be one and the same with the foundation of the Religion of the Pope Jesuits drunkards swearers prophane ignorant and superstitious people of the world namely an acknowledgement of Christ without you to be that which he is said to be in the Scriptures And so the devils in this particular excel you who did not only acknowledge him but knew him who he was Jesus the Son of God And concerning the Ministers of Christ which those of your literal profession opposed and persecuted cryed out these are the servants of the most high God But the comfort joy and peace of the children of light stands not in your ground of general acknowledgement of Christ without them to be what the Scriptures declare him to be but in a particular knowledge of him as by the spirit of holiness he is revealed within them whereby they come to witness him the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead and so Paul knew him and so to know him was and is eternal life and witnessed so to be by those to whom he is so revealed But this is a mysterie hid and unknown to all that lie in the death and never come to witness the first resurrection but declare the ground of their comforts to stand in that in which the wicked of the world with them are one And this is not to slight and nullifie that glorious person in heaven as ye falselie say many of our way do scoffing and jeering at you for speaking of the person of Christ and thinking to be saved by the blood of him that dyed at Jerusalem which is but your false accusations and slanders and proceeds from the same fountain and spirit of envy and wickedness as Ralph Farmers bundles of lies did in which he and ye are one and at an agreement for scoffing and jeering lying and false accusing being the works of darkness in which your generation are exercised is denyed by all that vvalk in the light vvhich is our vvay and the vvay everlasting But to declare against your follie and your thinkings to be saved by the acknovvledging of Christ vvithout ye whilst of him and his life ye are ignorant living in wickedness lying hypocrisie and deceipt hating the light and erring from the right way is no error but love to your souls who pretend honour to the person but hate the light of Christ and know not his Gospel which is the power of God nor his way which is everlasting and lives nor his Ordinances which are living spiritual and true not traditional invented and carnal The consideration of which together with the lying spirits to which ye give heed might justly cause you to mind whether ye are not those that stumble at Christ the corner stone and do cause others to stumble at him who is now come and witnessed in life power and spirit and living demonstrations thereof are given and manifested in thousands who by experience have known and felt the dove-like spirit of Christ of which ye speak though both to you and others who live in envie murthering the just and betraying the innocent pretending honour to the name but hating the light and persecuting the power of Christ This is hid and ye say ye will not believe it And if those that owned and seem to honour the Scripture in which Moses wrote of Christ did not believe but crucified him when in flesh he was made manifest no marvel then if ye do not believe who call the verie words of Scripture in which to you I spake page 21. of my former book strange and unchristian expressions surelie ye are strangelie erred from the way of truth and true wisdom who live in such confusion and deceit one while calling the Scriptures the Word of God and rule of life when by wresting it ye can serve your lusts but when by it ye are reproved for your wickedness then ye call it strange and unchristian expressions and say The Lord rebuke your railing as if the Scripture which ye term the Word of God and Rule of life were railing and the Prophets and holy men of God which gave it forth were railers because it bears true testimonie against your wicked wayes as well as others for the words I mentioned are recorded Isa 57. 4. Psal 2.1 2 c. and in some other Scriptures as the Reader will perceive that reads my former Book But ye say its easie to heap up good words right or wrong Alas poor blind people by what blind guides are ye led Is it strange and unchristian expressions and yet good vvords Are they good vvords and yet vvrong What exceeding confusion are the children of darknesse brought into in this day of the Lords povver in vvhich light is risen out of obscuritie and the Lords glory appeared c. In pag. 21. Ye say Though some of our way have shouted and cryed Hosannah holy holy King of Israel to James Nayler c. To which I reply When will ye be weary of lying and false accusing which is the work of the Devill for none of our way ever so cried to any man But that which is our way is the truth and the life and is everlasting the light and life of men from which whosoever turns aside forsakes the right way and turns to lying vanities as some in this day of the Lords visitation have done who must bear their burthen But ye are easily seen of what generation ye are who watch for an occasion to speak evill of the way of Truth and the Saints and Children of light who in the fear of the Lord do walk and in his Councell abide which to you is not known who are glad with an advantage by any means to speak evill of the way of Truth and the people who being gathered into it are for its sake become strangers in the earth and to their familiar friends and aliens to their mothers sons as all their fathers were But in this again are ye and Ralph Farmer one and by one and the same spirit are ye guided to whom it is known that those that cried as aforesaid are not of our way but denied and witnessed against before
world to believe is true and verbatim according to the copie which in three or four pages your selves contradict manifesting your falshood at which so many of you as are not given up to hardness of heart may be ashamed and blush for if such things had been pubpublished by a diviner or a particular person amongst you that had been to your shame but for a whole company of sixty persons who call themselves a Church to agree in such works of darkness and wickedness and no one amongst you free is such a thing as hath hardly been heard before in our daies c. And notwithstanding my former answers to the three particulars mentioned in the copie stands good and not toucht by you yet I find you deceitfully nibbling at the heele and going on falsely to accuse saying I asserted that as Christ was the great light of the world so he was the great faith of the world none of which was in the copie nor I suppose spoken by me but is another lie invented among you because I then knew him not the light of the World that lighteth every one that commeth into the World while among the diviners and sorcerers I stood by whom the light is denied And I could not say he was the great faith of the World because both to you and the rest of the world who are of the world and speak of the world and believe not in the light both Christ and faith is a Mistery hid and unknown and is none of theirs who in their imaginations talk of objects c. and deny the light and know not the onely foundation but by sorcerie and wicked art would divide that which God hath joyned And so ye go on telling many words spoken by one and the other which truly I take to be but so many lies invented to serve you as a vail for if your memories are so short and your wits so confounded that ye are not able or willing to draw sixteen or twenty lines out of a copie which ye say is by you without so much falshood and untruth as is before mentioned how can a man believe ye are able and willing to remember and truly publish without forgery and falsehood so many words and passages which so many years past were spoken as ye say in several meetings And whereas in my answer to what ye say touching faith being an eternal thing ye say I alleadge 1 Tim. 1.9 and tell me I shew my weakness in abusing the words and sence of the Apostle this is another lie as the Reader may perceive who reads my book for I said faith is a mistery held in a pure conscience and unknown to all ignorant and vulturous eyes as well as to yours c. And asked whether that faith by which the Saints are justified by which they overcame the world saw him which is invisible by which their hearts are purified by which Enoch was translated that he saw not death and is the substance of things hoped for c. be eternal or carnal c. In stead of answering which ye publish a down-right lie and say I a●leadged such a scripture and abused the words and sence of the Apostle which I did not as the Reader may see so that although those who are given over to believe lies may happilie embrace what ye say yet none whose eyes are truly opened by him that is given a light to the Gentiles is like to believe what ye say though ye together joyn to frame and to publish so false an accusation which is so visible that all that read both our books may perceive it and it had been well if ye had taken my former advice and been silent till by the true light ye had been guided and known how to speak truth for though hand joyn in hand the wicked shall not go unpunished nor he that speaketh lies escape But as I said the sool will be medling c. In your sixteenth page ye labour to cover your selves the best ye are able that all beholders may not see your shame by what is charged upon you in The skirts of the Whore where it is demanded why ye had not questioned me for these things sooner and whiles I was amongst you And why ye would suffer principles contrary to truth to pass without rebuke c. To which ye reply that I was presently opposed though for a solemn dealing ye did it not till I had left the Church which ye say perhap● was your sin But considering the state of the Church ye knew not how to set about it though some saw ground enough to do it c. To which I replie O woful Church in a woful sad state and condition indeed which is worthy thy serious consideration who with thine own pen hast confest and published to the world that thou knewest thy duty and sa●est ground enough to do it but knewest not how to set about it Art not thou worthy to be beaten with many stripes Oh wicked and sloathful servant whose judgement is come and into darkness art cast and so no marvel that some amongst you did oppose some manifestations of truth whiles I was amongst you of which you speak for I know some son of Baliel was there who knew not the Lord some blind guid who leads the blind into the ditch who for the wages of iniquity hath laboured to curse the Israel of God and to make you stumble at the stumbling stone who often opposed the life and power of truth as it was made manifest and against it contradicted as I before made mention whose judgement lingers not c. But I take notice how unwilling the harlot is to confess her own guilt and therefore saith perhaps it was her sin which is but a deceitful shift from a just stroak for her hypocrisie and if ye could speak truth in this particular ye might have told the world plainly that whilest I was amongst you ye had not whereof justly to accuse me of which I know I have a witness in your consciences so that most that then were of the company loved and prized me dearly and many were sorely grieved at my departure But when nothing could prevail because into Aegypt again I could not go then and not before some Diotrepes that loved preheminence prating against the innocent with malicious words by degrees made a partie and devised those pretended accusations and with much deceit and deceivableness of unrighteousness prevailed with you to charge upon me c. which if ye had clearly manifested and not drawn this further guilt of lying c. upon your selves some had been excusable but now ye must bear your shame and judgement whatsoever ye are But now ye come to a fifth branch of that ye call an admonition though in pag 13. where ye say ye insert it verbatim ye number but four and that which here ye put as a fifth general branch ye there make a fourth particular in the fourth
vindicate or cover himself from what was truly laid upon him yet from it hath he not delivered himselfe but the charge stands good in sound and sober words in the power of truth and whiles he covereth his sin be cannot prosper And whiles he addeth one iniquity to another he cannot come into Gods righteousnesse And oh that he would consider it and lay it to heart whiles he hath time that in the day of the Lords anger which is at hand and as a destruction from the Almighty shall come he might be hid and find mercy of the Lord with whom his vain speaking of a witnesse he hath in heaven brought from thence into his heart and confirmed by the Spirit of Truth and of his being taken up into the Mount to confer with him who hath all power given him and of a Warrant sealed and given forth from him that hath al power c. is of little accompt whiles he understands not what he speaks For the Kingdom of God cometh not with observation but the kingdome of God is within and in his Kingdom he is who dwells in heaven where the Father the Word and Spirit agree of which all blind Pharisaical Professors are ignorant and cannot know it till in the light and by the spirit it be revealed and made manifest And whereas he saith All that he with the rest laid at my door was to a tittle true and that neither he nor his brethren have any reluctance for it This is all fals for I have before proved it lies and deceit and themselves have confest they found that which boiled like a furnace and scalded all that stand near it and they were near it and so resolved not to stay another time And judgement is now laid to the line and righteousness to the plummet and all refuges of lies and deceit are to be swept away and by truth and soberness such hiding places are overflown and in soberness do I stand and so much to my self am I come that I see many of his words there mentioned to veil and cover himself to be light and vain and not worth answering and that what I writ was both sober and true without fawning and flattery in which many among you are too much exercised who love to have smooth not true things spoken and would have me peaceable gentle and full of mercy to hypocrisie deceit and wickedness all which is for judgement and no peace from God is spoken to it And therefore without partiality do I declare against it in him and you as well as in others and to my self am I not a stranger And this is pure wisdom from above and moderation known unto all that receive and believe in the light by which that spirit appearing in my former book is justified though to you that hate the light and by the light are condemned it is as gall and worm-word And for sporting my self and insulting over him I did it not but it is another refuge of lies for I told him before I did not insult over him nor delight in his wo and misery but was sorely grieved as still I am to see how the wicked one whom the Lord would destroy was exalted in him and you and what I writ is true And whereas he saith I was not a in a sober mind but at a distance from it and true speaking when I mentioned to him the portion of lyars and that not any thing he said was a lie but what he said I had not his hand to as his particular affirmation and so goes on speaking many words but to what purpose I cannot see except it be by words to darken the Readers understanding But if I mistake not that which he would do is to vindicate himself from being a lyar with what else I charged upon him in my former Letter by telling me he said I had not his hand to it as his particular accusation And if this be his meaning then is it gross deceit for I never said or thought it was his particular accusation but a general accusation delivered by him in which himself and each other particular was included and so I spake to him in soberness and pitty my very howels moving towards him knowing my self innocent and that it was a dreadful thing for him in the Name or the Lord to speak a false vision or thing I asked him how he durst come to me and in the name of the Lord tell me I said the Scriptures of truth were one of the greatest plagues of the land when I never spake nor thought such a thing To which he replyed he never spake it nor laid it to my charge though out of his own mouth it came and when I told him I had it under his hand he denyed it When I told him I could shew it him he replied if I could he would acknowledge himself a lyar upon which ground I charged him for it as before and so I do still and good were it for him if he owned the judgement and repented for otherwise he cannot escape But if he forgeting that his hand was to his paper did run himself into the evil of denying it as is before exprest yet if when he came to the sight of his error he had clearly acknowledged it and owned his condemnation and repented to which in love he was advised there had been mercy for him but being convinced and reproved of the evil hardened his neck and labours to hide and cover his sin adding one iniquity unto another here he cannot prosper but brings himself justly under not onely the judgement and condemnation mentioned in my former Letter but more and more misery due to those that rebel against the light by which they are reproved and to those that add iniquity unto iniquity and must not come into Gods righteousness And from it all the waters in Jordan can never wash him not the Rocks and Mountains cover him nor all your outward observations imaginations and will-worships preserve him till he own the light by which he is convinced and reproved and the just condemnation thereof pass upon the rebellious and the transgressor which hath sinned and he brought to repentance and the acknowledgement of the truth and so his soul come to be saved in this mighty day of the Lords power And this is not from a violent heat of wild-fire as he calls it but from a spirit of soberness soundness and truth and is true love to his soul and the time is near in which he that rebuketh plainly shall find more favour then he that flattereth with his lips and my end is not to make him a transgressor before all as he supposeth but according to my measure to advise him into the way the light the life and the truth which leadeth out of transgression into the inheritance of the Saints in light and in this I do not equivocate nor evade as he falsely chargeth me but do speak plainly and truly though at