Dives's of this and all other ages would be glad if they might have but the least favour from you one drop of cold water on the tip of your fingers O you Despised begging Lazarus's as in Luk. 16.24 For the world for all their stoutnesse must be forced to come to judgment before your Lord and you 1 Cor. 6.23 This honour have all his Saints Psal 149. Now seeing that these things be so I beseech you by those the mercies of God that you do give up your bodies as hands tongue strength health wealth and all that you have and are to the service of God your God Rom. 12.1 2. Let your moderation in every thing be knowne to all men for the Lord is at hand Phil. 4.5 3. Study to walk as like the Lord Jesus Christ as ever you can for for your lives Mat. 11.29 4. Let that you strive for be the faith of the Gospell of your precious Lord Jesus Phil. 1.27 And not any earthly advantages 5. Let your conversation be as becometh the Gospell Phil. 27. 6. Let your hearts be alwaies in heaven where our Lord Jesus is Col. 3.1 2 3. 7. Forbeare and forgive one another in love and with all your hearts as God for Christ sake hath forgiven you Eph. 5.2 8. Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorifie your Father which is in heaven Mat. 5.16 9. You are the Salt of the earth have a care you loose not your savour Mat. 5.13 10. Be forward to distribute to those that are in want for this is well-pleasing to your most glorious loving Father Heb. 13.16 11. Learn all one of another the things that are good for this is the command of God and also commendable in Saints Phil. 3. ver 17. 12. And lastly O Brethren consider what the Lord hath done for you hee hath bought you and paid for you with his blood and he doth now also make it his businesse to pray for your safe conduct to glory Heb. 7.25 He hath delivered you from those that would have been your ruine and hath promised to you everlasting life Let the love of Christ constrain you let the love of God win upon your souls What! he that spared not his own Son but delivered him up for us all How shall he not with him freely give us all things Hold out my brethren hold out for you have but a little while to run Hold fast unto the death and Christ will give you a crown of life Revel 2.10 Farewel dear brethren The mighty God of Jacob preserve and deliver you from every evil work and all the daies of our pilgrimage let us pray one for another that our God would count us worthie of this rich and glorious calling and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodnesse and the work of Faith with power to whom be glory now and ever And now Reader before I make and end of this discourse I think it meet to let thee understand that though there hath been a Book put forth by Edward Borrough in seeming opposition to that of mine called Some Gospel-Truths opened according to the Scripture Yet the substance of my discours then published by me standeth uncontrouled by Scripture as from him or others I do not say he doth not wrangle with them but I say he doth not by any one plain Scripture contradict them As for instance The First great thing that I do hold forth in that discourse is this That that Babe that was born of the Virgin Mary and that at that time did give satisfaction for sin was the very Christ of GOD and not a type of any thing afterward to be revealed for the obteining redemption for sinners within them Which thing my Adversary can find no ground in Scripture to build an opposition vpon see his Book page 12. but is forced to confesse it in word though he do deny the very same in doctrine see his Book p. 29. at his sixth Quaerie And p. 27. where in answer to this question of mine Why did the man Christ hang on the Crosse on mount Calvarie All the answer he gives is this Because they wickedly judged him to be a blasphemer and as in their account saith he he died as an evil doer And this is all the ground he giveih See his Answer to my second Quaerie in this my book taken word for word as he laid them down 2. The next thing I do prove in that book is That that light which every one hath is not the spirit of Christ because the Scripture saith some have it not Jude 19. But Edward Borrough saith it is given to every one p. 18. of his Booke and he saith they have it within them too p. 26 of his Book in answer to my first question though he have no Scripture to confirm the same as I have had to contradict it See his book 3. The next thing I prove is That Jesus Christ did fulfill the Law in his own person without us for justification and that his blood then shed hath washed away the sins of the children of God as aforesaid Which thing he would oppose but finds no footing for his discourse See his book p. 12. where he saith the Law is not fulfilled Read the latter end of that page contrary to Scripture Col. 2.14 Rom. 10 4. which saith He did fulfill all the Law for justification for every one that believeth Another thing I prove in that book is That Christ is ascended into that heaven without above the clouds and stars and that I prove by eight several Scripture demonstrations of which not one is confuted by Scripture though secretly in his book smitten against Read his whole book 4. The next thing I prove is That the same Jesus that was born of Mary laid in the manger who is the Saviour is at this day making intercession in that bodie he then took of Mary which thing also is not confuted by him by the Scripture though cunningly smitten against in his discourse where he saith It is onely necessary to salvation to preach Christ within laying aside all that Christ did when he was in his own person in the world See p. 29 of his Book Qu. 6. 5. Another truth I prove is That the very same Jesus that was born of Mary that very man that was also hanged on the Crosse will come the second time and that shall be to save his children and to Judge the world at the last day that great day of Judgment And though they will not own that he shall so come as he went away which was a very man without yet they could not at all by the Scripture contradict it But the very summe of his discourse is a wrangling with the thing laid down as a Dog with a bone but hath not nor cannot by Scripture overcome the same This have I written that the Reader into whose hand this book may come may have the more certain
information concerning the things before published by me and also concerning the opposition made against them by the Adversarie And here because I am loath to be too tedious I do conclude and desire thy praiers to God for me if thou be a Christian that I may not onely be preserved to the end in the faith of Jesus but that God would enable mee to bee an earnest contender for the same even to the last and rest The servant of the LORD JESUS John Bunyan A VINDICATION OF THE BOOK CALLED Some Gospel-Truths Opened According to the Scriptures and the Opposition made against it by EDWARD BORROUGH a professed Quaker but proved an enemie to the Truth examined and confuted by the Word of GOD. IT is very expedient that there should be heresies among us that thereby those which are indeed of the truth might be made manifest and also that the doctrine of GOD and his Son JESUS CHRIST might the more cast forth its lustre and glory For the Truth is of that nature that the more it is opposed the more glory it appears in and the more the adversary objects against it the more it will clear it self which doth give me and all that stand for it and doth plead on its side in the wisdome of the Spirit much boldnesse and incouragement to venture without any slavish fear upon those that have already or shall hereafter stand up to oppose it I did some few weeks past put forth a small Book called Some Gospel-Truths opened and so forth and the thing I looked for from them was namely opposition from the adversary which hath been accomplished in that as I did look for it so it did happen not that it daunted me for had it so done it might have made me kept those Truths within my breast which are now made manifest by me as well as others to the world Now I have not onely met with some opposition from others face to face in secret but there is one Edward Borrough as I heard his name is so by some of themselvs that hath ventur'd to stand up against the Truth with the rest of his companions and hath published a book called The true Faith of the Gospel of peace contended for in which book of his there is a very great number of heresies cunningly vented by him and also many things there falsly reported of me which things in this my discourse I shall very plainly discover and the way that I shall take shall bee First by laying down some of thy expressions and also some of mine and by inquiring into the truth of one and the errour of the other through the assistance of the Spirit of CHRIST and according to the Scriptures Onely by the way I think good to mind thee of thy cloathing thy self with the words of the Prophets and Apostles against whom thou doest fight as will appear in my following discourse and also of thy endeavouring to wrest the sword out of the hands of the Saints and art fighting against them bitterly with a parcel of scolding expressions But I wish thee to learn if thou canst to be sober and to keep under thy unruly spirit and do not so much appear at least not so grosly a railing Rabshakeh but contrariwise if you would be looked upon to be holy which we know and believe that as yet many of you are not Let at the least some appearance of moderation be manifest among you After many words that are flung into the wind by thee my adversary in the 1. and 2. page of thy book thou couldst not be contented therewith as being too few to vent thy self wi hall but thou breakest out in page 3. with a false testimony of John Burton and his fellow saying * This is a tie I blesse God spoken of the Adversary against me They have joined themselvs with the broken army of Magog And have shewed themselvs in the defence of the Dragon against the Lamb in the day of war betwixt them When alas poor soul we do know and are bold to declare in the name of the Lord Jesus the son of Mary that our God hath owned us with others of his servants in his own work against the Divel devices and false doctrine as instruments both for the comforting and establishing of his own and also for the convincing and converting of some of them who afore-time were not converted And friend why doest thou say that we join with Magog in the defence of the Dragon against the Lamb when thou seest the whole drift both of my Brothers Epistle and also of my Writing is to exalt and advance the first born of Mary the Lord of glory and to hold on his side notwithstanding there are so many tempests go through the world and the rather because we know that it is he and he alone that did bear our sins in his own body on the tree 1 Pet. 2.24 for it is he that hath taken away the sins of the world Now I say therefore do not thou thus accuse the Brethren for speaking good of the Name of Jesus least thou be troubled at thy end for thus spending thy beginning in taking part with the Divel to accuse God's children Then in the same page thou saiest thou hast numbered up part of our work and the sum is A corrupted graine of Babylons treasure c. Answ Friend the summe of our discouse is of the birth righteousnesse death blood resurrection ascension intercession and second coming of the Son of Mary the Virgin by which righteousnesse blood death buriall resurrection ascension and intercession we are saved And dost thou count this a corrupted graine of Babylons treasure Have a care what thou sayst least thou utter that with thy mouth now which will lye heavie on thy conscience for ever Then as though this thy unwise speaking were too little thou breakest out with a taunt or a jeere saying A larger portion and more to the purpose might have been brought in but with such as you had or could procure from your Neighbours are you come Answ Friend Who hath despised the day of small things But again we desire not to bring to others no nor to know our selves any thing else but Jesus Christ the Son of Mary and him crucified for our sins 1 Cor. 2.2 Then thou saiest further in the same page That though thou hast not seen our faces yet our spirit is tried and we are cleerely described to thee saiest thou to be of the stock of Ismael of the seed of Caine whose line reacheth to the murthering Priests c. Answ Friend thou art verie censorious and utterest many words without knowledge We blesse God for the most part of our line we do labour to stretch it out eiâ—her in building up and exhorting the Saints of the most high to cleave close to their Jesus or else much as in us lies we labor to convince poor souls of their lost condition according to the word of
A VINDICATION OF THE BOOK CALLED Some Gospel-Truths Opened According to the Scriptures and the Opposition made against it by EDWARD BORROUGH a professed Quaker but proved an enemie to the Truth examined and confuted by the Word of GOD. AND ALSO The things that were then laid down and declared to the world by me are a second-time born witness to according to truth with the Answer of Edward Borrough to the Quaeries then laid down in my Book reproved And also a plain Answer to his Quaeries given in simplicitie of soul and is now also presented to the world or who else may read or hear them to the end if God will that Truth may be discovered thereby By John Bunyan Preacher of the Gospel of CHRIST I have found David a man after mine own heart saith God Act. 13.22 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised up to Israel a Saviour Jesus saith the Apostle ver 23. And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him they took him down from the tree and laid him in a sepulchre But God raised him from the dead ver 29. 30. And we declare unto you glad tidings how that the promise which was made unto the fathers God hath fulfilled the same to us their children in that hee hath raised up Jesus again ver 32. 33. Be it known unto you therefore men and brethren that though this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins ver 38. And by him all that believe are justified from all things from which they could not be justified by the law of Moses ver 39. LONDON Printed for Matthias Cowley Book-seller in Newport Anno Dom. 1657. READER WEe whose names are here under-written having through grace some blessed Faith and experience of the Truths declared in this Book and knowing them so to be having tried them by the Scriptures in the light of the Spirit thought it our duty to bear witnesse thereunto together with our Brother desiring the blessing of God may go along with these endeavours of his for the doing good to our Christian brethren or any other who may read it Farewell Yours in the Faith of our Lord Jesus Christ for which Faith we desire to contend Richard Spencly John Burton John Child TO THE READER SInce it hath pleased the Lord to work in my soul by his holy Spirit and hath translated me in some measure from darknesse to light I have seen and heard that such things have been done by those who did once pretend themselves to be the servants of Jesus Christ that it hath made me marvel Partly while I have beheld the vile conversation of some and also the seeming legal-holinesse of others together with their damnable doctrine which have notwithstanding their professions made shipwrack of the Faith both to themselves and their followers I having had some in-sight into such things as these was provoked to publish a small treatise touching the fundamentals of Religion supposing that God might adde his blessing thereto both for the establishing of some and the convincing of others which things I doubt not but they have been accomplished and will be still more and more But as it was in former daies so it is now That is some in all former ages have been on foot in the world ready to oppose the truth So it is now there are certain men newly start up in our daies called Quakers who have set themselves against the truth of our Lord Jesus Christ and do in very deed deny that salvation was then obteined by him when he did hang on the Crosse without Jerusalems gate Now these men do pretend that they do verily and truly professe the Lord Jesus Christ but when it comes to the trial and their principles be throughly weighed the best that they do is to take one truth and corrupt it that they may thereby fight more stoutly against another As for instance They will own that salvation was obtained by Christ this is truth that salvation was obtained by Christ but come close to the thing and you will finde that they corrupt the word and onely mean thus much That salvation is wrought out by Christ as he is within and by it though not warranted by the Scripture they will fight against the truth Namely that salvation was obteined for sinners by the man that did hang on the Crosse on mount Calvary between two thievs called Jesus Christ I say by what he did then for sinners in his own person or bodie which he took from the Virgin Mary according to the Word of God Secondly they will own the doctrine of Christ within This is truth that Christ is within his Saints But this doctrine they will take to fight against the doctrine of Christ without Ascended from his Disciples into heaven by whom salvation was obtained neither is there salvation in any other Act. 4.12 3. They will own the Resurrection of the Saints but their meaning is onely thus much That the Saints are raised from the state of nature to a state of grace and herewith they will sight against this truth Namely the resurrection of the bodies of Saints out of their graves into which they were laid some thousands some hundreds of Years before And if they do say they do own the Resurrection of the Saints out of their graves they do mean out of the grave of sin onely and nothing else These things I am an ear witnesse to 4. They will say they do own the second coming of Christ to judg the world but search them to the bottom and you will finde them onely to own him in his coming in Spirit within in opposition to the glorious coming of the Lord Jesus the son of Mary from heaven in the clouds with all his mighty Angels to raise the dead and bring them to judgment according to the Scripture And so for the the Intercession of Christ and the truthâ— of the Gospel they onely own them to be within in opposition to the glorious intercession and mediation of the man Christ Jesus in his own person without now in the presence of his Father between us and him pleading and making intercession for his children These things together with maâ—â— more I might mention but now I forbear knowing that none shaâ—â— be lost nor altogether carried away by them nor any Hereticks but the sons of perdition Now that they might the better make their doctrine take place in the hearers they endeavour to make a fair shew in the flesh that thereby they might now as did their fathers in time past compell and constraine them who are not hy the Lord 's right hand planted into the truth of Jesus to follow their covered errors as it is written Galath 6.12 For as many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh That is according to the workes of the Law do with good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple Rom. 16.18 And indeed it doth
God and not to murther any Nay contrarywise we desire through grace if at any time we chance to see any of Christ's lambs in the teeth of any Woolf or Bear be they never so terrible in appearance I say wee desire wee labour wee strive and lay cut our selves if it be possible to recover the same though with the hazard of our lives or whatsoever may befall us in doing our duty Here is one false charge laid down by the Adversary against me And whereas thou saiest in the 4. Page That we are found enemies to Christ revealed in his Saints Answ Thou doest us wrong for we labour all that we may to countenance the same where he doth indeed appear and if at any time we do see or discerne that any soule hath any breathing after the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ we are so far from disowning or discountenancing of the same that we give them all the incouragement we may Nay and we are so farre from discountenancing the doctrine of God and his Son Jesus Christ that wee say plainly some have not the spirit of Christ in them and they are reprobates according to that Scripture Rom. 8 9. If any man hath not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his And again Some are sensuall having not the spirit Jude 19. And again we are so far from being against the doctrine of the Spirit of Christ in his saints we blesse God that we say it is the distinguishing Character of a true beleever from others All which things do I also affirme in my Book and hold forth as doth also my Brother in his Epistle Therefore I marvell that you should be so overseene as to utter so many false things together in lesse than four sides of paper I wonder what will be the end of your discourse Well now thou doest come and fall a wrangling with some of the words of my Brother Burton which are to this purpose he speaking before of the Doctrine of Jesus And this is quite contrary saith he to those commonly called Familists Ranters Quakers and others who on the other hand either denie Christ to be a reall man without them blasphemously fancying him to be only God manifest in their flesh or else make his humane nature with the fulnesse of the God-head in it to be but a type of God to be manifested in the Saints Now first of all the great offence thou takest of some of these words is because he doth joyne in his discourse Fami ists Ranters and Quakers together Friend what harme is it to joyne a Dog and a Woolfe together a fawning Dog and a Woolfe in sheepes clothing they differ a little in outward appearance but they can both agree to worrie Christs Lambes But againe Friend let us a little compare the principles of a Ranter and a Quaker together and it will clearly appear that in many of their Principles at least they agree or jump in one As first the Ranters will owne Christ no other waies then only within and this is also the principle of the Quakers they will not owne Christ without them 2. The Ranters they crie down all teaching but the teaching within and so do the Quakers witnesse Thousands and yet condemne their principles by their practise as the Ranters also did and doe Now the Apostle saith the contrary saying He that knoweth God heareth us meaning himself with the rest of the Apostâ—s servants of Christ He that is not of God heareth not us 1 Joh. 4.6 Again 3. The Ranters are neither for the Ordinance of Baptisme with Water nor breaking of bread And are not you the same 4. The Ranters would professe that they were without sin And how far short of this opinion are the Quakers 5. The Ranters would not owne the resurrection of the bodies of the Saints after they were laid in the graves And how say you do you beleeve that the very bodies of the Saints as the very bodie of Abraham and the body of Isaac with the bodyes of all the Saints notwithstanding some of them have been in the graves thousands of yeares others hundreds some lesse I say do you beleeve the Resurrection of these very bodies again which were buried so long since or do you hold as the Ranters do nothing but the Resurrection from a sinful to an holy state in this life And really I tell thee Reader plainly that for the generality the very opinions that are held at this day by the Quakers are the same that long ago were held by the Ranters Only the Ranters had made them thred-bare at an Ale-House and the Quakers have set a new glosse upon them again by an outward legall holinesse or righteousnesse But again why should you be so angry with my Brother for joyning of a Sinner and a Lyar together Is there any great harme in that Surely no. And the joyning Ranters and Quakers together is but so The Quakers themselves confesse the Ranters ate to be disowned page 4. Nay if they would not yet God hath disowned them in the open view of the Nations Now that the Quakers are liers I shall prove from their own mouth As first from the severall things that I did oppose even now page 1. 2. 3. 4. Of his Book called The true saith of the Gospell of peace c. Now least they should be slighted and set at naught I shall shew you clearly this mans lies manifestly laid down in his book against me As first he saith of me in his book p 11. 12. That I said positively the blood of Christ was shed before the World began Whereas I said onely this That in the account of God mark it in the account of God his blood was shed before the World was according to that Scripture Rev. 13.8 The lamb slaine from the foundation of the world in my Book page 3. Secondly he saith that I crie aloud against Christ within in p. 24. of his book And again he saith that all my work is an obscure shooting against the manifestation of Chriâ—â— within Where he speaks very falsly of me for I confesse and owne Gods Christ within as well as without as appears in my book page 206. towards the end And in the Epistle to my Book you may finde the same held out by me for 2. or 3. leavs together besides many other places of my book doth testifie of the same therefore doth not he lie miserably in this also Again he saith that I am one of those that do preach for hire through covetousnesse making Merchandize of souls p. 23. of his booke which is also an untruth as I shall shew further when I come to the place Againe he saith in page 30. That I said Christ's comâ—ing in the spirit was no coming Here also he uttereth falshood I never said so as many of our Brethren can witnesse But of this also in it's place when I come to it with many other things which he hath very
of that can be done within it selfe to look for salvation in that man that is now absent from his Saints on earth 2 Cor. 5.6 Why so For it knoweth that there is Salvation in none other Acts. 4.12 And therefore I would wish thee to have a care what thou doest For I tell thee That man who is now jeared by some because he is preached to be without them will very suddenly come the second time to the great overthrow of those who have spoken and shall still speak against him Jude 14 15. Thou sayest also the next thing thou mindest is this in the second Epistle where a question is asked Who are the men that at this day are so deluded by the Quakers and other pernicious doctrines but they that counted it enough to be talkers of the Gospell c. This man saith the Quaker is of the same spirit with his fellow and will more abound in lies c. And why because he saith the Quakers are those deceivers that at this day beguile poore soules by their Doctrine Alas poor man why shouldest thou be angry for my speaking the truth in saying The Quakers are deceivers this will easily appear For first they deny the man Christ to be without them and owne Christ no otherwise but as he is within contrary to that Scripture which saith For while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. This is touching his bodily presence And again he was parted from them And a cloud received him out of their sight And he was carried away from them and so received up into Heaven Acts. 1.9.10 11. Now he that denieth this is a deceiver as is cleer in that he doth speak against the truth laid down in the Scripture 2. The Quakers are deceivers in that they perswade souls that Christ is crucified in them dead within them and kept down with some thing within them which was never taught by those that spoke the Scripture from the Spirit of God Shew me a Scripture to confirm such a doctrine as this which hath been avouched over and over by the Quakers 3. The Quakers are deceivers because they do perswade souls that that man that was born of the Virgin Mary is not above the clouds and the stars when the Scripture saith A cloud received him out of the sight of his Saints And again that he is above the highest heavens which must needs be above the stars for they are not the highest 4. The Quakers are deceivers because they perswade souls not to believe that that man that was crucified and rose again flesh and bones Luke 24.38 39.40 shall so come again that very man in the clouds of heaven to judgment as he went away and at the very same time shall raise up all the men and women out of their graves and cause them to come to the valley of Jehoshaphat because there will he that very man fit to judge all the Heathen round about I say they strive to beat souls off from believing this though it be the truth of God witnessed by the Scripture Joel 3.11.12 as also Acts 1.10 11. This same Jesus which is taken from you into heaven shall so come mark the very same in like manner as yee have seen him go into heaven And his feet shall stand in that day the day of his second coming upon the mount of Olives Zech. 14.4 Where is that Not within thee but that which is without Jerusalem before it on the East side I say now hee that perswades souls not to believe this but makes them believe there is no such thing as the Quakers do he is a deceiver Again the Quakers make no difference between that light wherewith Christ as he is God hath inlightned all and the Spirit of Christ he gives not to all which I shall shew by and by to be a deceit 5. The Quakers are deceivers because they say That every one hath that which is like the spirit of Christ even as good as the spirit of Christ page 10 of his book which is desperate blasphemie The Scripture saith plainly That some are sensual having not the Spirit And yet though they have not that They have saies the Quakers that which is as good as that O wonderfull deceit as I shal farther shew by and by when I come to the place But to cover himself and so his deceit he doth apply that to himselfe that should be applyed for the encouragement of the Children of God saying The Children of God was alwaies counted deceivers we saith he have a cloud of witnesses Answer Friend they were called deceivers and were not so but you are rightly called so as I have already shewed and shall shew farther by and by In the meane time know that the Devill knowes how to take the Childrens bread and cast it to the doggs Then the next thing that he is grieved with is because I said there are none but a company of Light Notionists Ranters with here and there a Legalist that was shaking in their principles that were carried away by the Quakers c. When this appeares in all mens sight that can see though you would not have it so it is like And as for your saying Because all sorts of people are brought to God Another false thing spoken of me by the Quakers I am offended therewith I Answer No friend I blesse God my soule can rejoyce that soules come into Jesus Christ though it grieves me to see how some with a spirit of delusion are deceived and destroyed by it's coming unto them as an Angel of light And whereas thou saiest I am like the Pharisees who said None believe but a company of poor people which know not the Law Answ I blesse God I do know they are the poor that receive the Gospel but Friend I must tell you that you and your fellows may seek for justification from the Law and yet have no better a recompence then to be condemned by the Law Now passing many raylings I come to the next thing that thou doest stumble at which is in that I say Some of those delusions the Devill doth deceive poor soules withall is first in that he doth perswade them that Salvation was not compleatly wrought out for sinners by the man Christ Jesus though he did it gloriously upon the Crosse without the gates of Jerusalem Now these words He did it gloriously on the Crosse without the Gates of Jerusalem thou leavest out Therefore I aske Do you believe that at that time when he did hang upon that Crosse on mount Calvary that he did by that death he died there redeeme all his elect from eternall vengeance If not what ever thou saiest thou wilt certainly see that Satan hath caught thee in his snare notwithstanding thy rayling against the Lord Jesus And Friend thou mayest call thy conscience the man Christ Jesus or the light as thou callest it in thy Conscience the man Christ Jesus which
man who was laid in the manger hanged on the Crosse c. I say it sheweth that those who do not lay hold on what he hath done and suffered without them in his own body on the tree through the operation of his Spirit which he hath promised to give to them that ask him or else they have not yet been convinced of the sin of unbelief and so are still in a perishing condition notwithstanding their strict obedience to the light within them or to the law And now tell me you that desire to mingle the law and the Gospel together and to make of both one and the same Gospel of Christ Did you ever see your selvs undone and lost unlesse the righteousnesse blood death resurrection and intercession of that man Christ Jesus in his own person was imputed to you and untill you could by faith owne it as done for you and counted yours by imputation yea or no Nay rather have you not set up your consciences and the law and counted your obedience to them better and of more value than the obedience of the Son of Mary without you to be imputed to you and if so it is because you have not been savingly convinced by the Spirit of Christ of the sin of unbelief Other things thou doest quarrell against but seeing they are in effect the same with the former I pass them by and shall come to the next thing thou doest think to catch me withall and that is because I say that God only is the Saviour there is none besides him Therefore sayest thou how contrary is this to that in page 24. where I say how wickedly are they deluded who owne Christ no otherwise then as he was before the world began Now this is no contradiction as thou wouldest have it for though I say there is none but God our Saviour Yet I did also then in my book shew how he was our Saviour namely in that he came into the world being born of a Virgin made under the law that he might redeem them that were under the law by his obedience in that nature by suffering in that nature by his rising again in that nature and by carrying that nature into heaven with him as the Scriptures at large declare and therefore though I say God is our Saviour and none besides he yet they that owne him to be the Saviour no otherwise then as he was before the world began are such as deny that he is come in the flesh and so are of Antichrist 1 Joh. 2. For before God could actually be a Saviour he must partake of another nature then the divine even the nature of man Heb. 2.14.15 Again thou sayest it is a slander put upon the Quakers to say they slight the resurrection Answ What say you Do you believe the resurrection of the body after it is laid in the grave Do you believe that the Saints that have been this four or five thousand years in their graves shall rise and also the wicked each one with that very body wherein they acted in this world some to everlasting life and some to everlasting contempt Answer plainly and cleer your selvs but I know you dare not for you deny these things But if you speak doubtfully or covertly in answer thereunto I doubt not but God will help me to find you our and lay open your folly if I shall live till another cavill by you be put forth against the truth The next thing thou cavillest at is that Quaery raised from Eph. 4.10 and thou sayest I have not answered it You should have answered it better or else have confuted that answer I gave unto it and then you had done somthing but the great thing that troubles thee is because I say further in my book he that ascended from his Disciples was a very man For handle me and see saith Christ a Spirit hath not flesh and bones as you see me have Now let the adversary shew by the Scripture said I that there is in them any place called heaven which is able to contain a man of some four or five foot long or a competent man of flesh and bones for the space of fifteen or sixteen hundred years but that above the clouds which troubles thee so that it makes thy tongue run thou canst not tell how But know that when the Son of man shal come from heaven to judge the world in righteousness that which thou callest foolishness now thou wilt finde a truth then to thy own wrong if thou close not in with him who said handle me and see for a Spirit hath not flesh and bones as you see me have Luk. 24.38 39 40. Another thing that thou art troubled at is in that I do reckon the Quakers to be of the deluding party when alas all men that have eyes to see may easily discern that you are of that generation as will appear in part by your own expressions both now and also at other times But that you may take off the brand from your selvs you say that the false ptophets and Antichrist were in the Apostles days as though there should be no false prophets now when the very time we live in doth manifestly declare and hold forth that there are many who at this day seek to beguile unstable souls of which sort you are not the least though for ought I can learn as yet you are the last that are come into the world but that you may the better shift it from your selvs you say that in those days there was not a Quaker heard of namely in the days of John Friend thou hast rightly said there was not a Quaker heard of indeed though there were many Christians heard of then By this you your selvs do confess that you are a new upstart sect which was not at other times in the world though Christian Saints have been alwaies in the world Friend here like a man in the dark in seeking to keep thy self out of one ditch thou art fallen into another instead of proving your selvs no false prophets you prove your selvs no Christians saying there was not a Quaker heard of then But if Quakers had been Christians then they would have been heard of to the glory of God and his Christ Again to defend thy self thou throwest the dirt in my face saying If we should diligently trace thee we should find thee in their steps meaning false prophets through famed words through covetousness making marchandise of souls loving the wages of unrighteousness Friend doest thou speak this as from thy own knowledge Another of his false accusatons or did any other tell thee so However that spirit that led thee out of this way is a lying spirit For though I be poor and of no repute in the world as to outward things yet through grace I have learned by the example of the Apostle to preach the truth and also to work with my hands both for mine own living
and for those that are with me when I have opportunity And I trust that the Lord Jesus who hath helped me to reject the wages of unrighteousness hitherto will also help me still so that I shall distribute that which God hath given me freely and not for filthy lucres sake Other things I might speak in vindication of my practise in this thing But ask of others and they will tell thee that the things I say are truth and hereafter have a care of receiving any things by hear-say only least you be found a publisher of those lies which are brought to you by others and so render your self the less credible but be it so And as for your thinking that to drink water and wear no hat-bands is not walking after your own lusts I say that whatsoever men do make a religion out of having no warrant for it in the Scripture is but walking after their own lusts and not after the Spirit of God Thus have I passed thy 23 page And least you should think that the Quakers are not such as condemned me and others for preaching according to the Scriptures as you would fain clear your selves of this charge laid against you in my book by your saying you deny the accusation to be true upon any of the Quakers I shall therefore tell you of your sister Anne Blackly who did bid me in the audienee of many To throw away the Scriptures To which I answered No for then the Divel would be too hard for me And again because I said The man Christ Jesus was above the clouds and the heavens now absent from his people in the world touching his bodily presence She said I preached up an Idol and used conjuration and witchcraft Which things I should rather have desired her to repent of then to make her a publick example for others to take warning by but that it is expedient that your folly be laid open that others may fear to do as you have done But farther thou chargest me with a loud This is anothâ—r of his false accusations of me crying out against Christ within This is thy throwing of dirt in my face again for I have said it often that if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his Again thou saiest that in page 203 I do take in hand to prove or discover that the doctrine of Christ within Here is another lie made of me is a false opinion Thou do'st also here speak falsly of me for all that I take in hand to prove is this That they hold a false opinion and principles too who hold up a Christ within in opposition to Christ without who is the Saviour as doth plainly appear by my following discourse if you read from page 203. to the end of my book But in the next place after much railing thou comest to the place where I again ask this question Doth not the Scripture make mention of a Christ within To which I answer Yes and he that hath it not is none of his But to lay open thy folly at last thou sai'st doth not the Scripture say Christ is within you except you be reprobates and is not this thus much are not all they reprobates say you but they in whom Christ is within Answ They are indeed reprobates who have not Christ within them but now how is thy folly manifest that in one place thou shouldest confesse some are reprobates who have not Christ within And yet in page 18. of thy book thou sai'st it is given to every man And in page 26. of thy book thou saiest that a measure of the Spirit is given to every man and is given within him too though the Scripture declareth the contrary and thy self also now at last It is well thou doest recant so much as to eat thy first words at the last or at least to shew thy self unstable in judgment Friend thou maist see the more thou doest fight against the truth the more thou foilest thy self Partly by helping of it and partly by contradicting thy self One thing more thou doest befool thy self with and that is In that thou in the first place saiest thou ownest the words in my book and yet hast spent some four sheets of paper to vent thy thoughts against them But peradventure thou wilt say those words that I owne are not those that I spake against but the other To which I answer There are many things in my book spoken of by me that are truth which if you owne you must leave professing your self a Quaker As first That that man that was born of the Virgin Mary called Jesus I say you will not owne that he in his own person by himself without us did compleatly bring in everlasting life for us by offering up himself once for all upon the Cross Secondly that Christ who wrought out redemption for his Children did after he had wrought it out go away from them and not into them in his person Thirdly that he ever-liveth that very man to make intercession in his person in the presence of his Father without untill the end of the world Fourthly that that very man who did go away from his Disciples into heaven will come again personally the same man the second time and before him shall be gathered all Nations and he shall judge them for their sins and take his to himself who shall soul and body be with him to all eternity these things I say thou couldest not owne though they are the truth of God But leaving thee to the great God who will give the according thy works in this as in other things I shall come to thy Answers to my Quaeries The first Quaery that I propounded is if thou say that every man hath a measure of the Spirit of Christ within him why say the Scriptures some are sensuall having not the Spirit And when Christ telleth his Disciples of sending them the Spirit he saith the world cannot receive it Here in the first place thou hast not onely answered deceitfully but hast also corrupted my words in laying down the Quaery in that thou didst leave out some words for thou didst lay it down thus If thou saiest that every man hath a measure of the Spirit of Christ within him why say the Scriptures Some are sensual having not the Spirit and Christ saith the world cannot receive it Reader compare them both together Now thy answer is Some are sensual having not tbe Spirit because they receive it not and some cannot receive it because they believe not on him from whence it comes Yet saiest thou The measure of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall as the Scriptures say When there is no Scripture saith a measure of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall But again see here thy strange confusion 1. To say some have it not 2. To say every man hath it But you would make a difference between having and
was very God and very man and not a Spirit onely for handle me saith he a Spirit hath not flesh and bones as yee see me have Luk. 24. Now this same Jesus that was very God and very man so born of Mary saith I go and prepare a place for you and I the very same as also Act. 1.10 11. will come again and take you to my self that where I am there ye might be also Joh. 14.1 2 3. Here I might spend many words but it needs not the whole current of Scriptures do confirm this thing and therefore I shall forbear and content my self with this Hee that will bee filthie let him bee filthie for the day is at hand The 3. Charge is also against me saying I said there was nothing in me nor any man to be taken notice of Though in some sence I do not deny these words yet I know and am sure that directly in this form of words I did never lay them down but I passe that Now in this sence I do not deny them There was nothing in me as I was in my unregenerate estate nor in any man else in the same estate that is worthie to be taken notice of for justification First because every unregenerate man is without Christ before he be converted Eph. 2.12 Wherefore remember that yee being Gentiles in the flesh unconverted that at that time yee were without Christ Now a man that is without Christ and hath not his Spirit in him as some yea most men are Jude 19. What is there in that man that is worth the taking notice of to justifie him Also converted Paul saith I know that in mee that is in my flesh dwelleth no good thing Rom. 7.18 As for others that are charged with things because their names are not also mentioned I shall passe them by onely thus much I shall say further to the last charge That there is nothing in any man by nature before he be converted that is worth the taking notice of as to seek justification thereby And that that light which every man hath being at the best but Conscience Nature or the Law let a man take notice of it follow it obey it never so much it is not able to justifie the soul for if righteousnesse come by the Law then Christ is dead in vain And as I said before every man hath not Christ to take notice of though every man hath conscience or the light of nature in him which is also able to convince of sins against the law of God yet is not able to deliver from that curse pronounced by the Lord against them that disobey the law Nay the law it self is not able to save them that do follow it being too weak for such a thing And indeed God did not give it to that end that Saints should have life by it No compare Gal. 3.21 with Rom. 5 20. you may clearly see why God gave the law namely that sins or offences might abound But how By discovering sin by its workings Now then you that follow the Law and seek life by it this is all you are like to have of it First you shall see your transgression against it made known to you by it Romans 3. ver 20. and an horrible curse pronounced against you because you cannot give a compleat continual obedience to every tittle of it And now friend to thee who hast taken in hand to answer my Quaeries laid down in the end of my book I say thou hast onely wrangled and quarrelled at them but hast not given one plain and right answer to any one of them Therefore I shal leave them stil to be answered by you or others of your spirit You shall finde them at the end of this discourse And I beseech you to answer them in all plainnesse of heart and with as moderate a spirit as you may It is like there may be some addition to them but as I have dealt plainly and sincerely with yours so do you deal uprightly and plainly with mine for the satisfaction of those who shall read them And here I shall draw towards a conclusion onely speak some words to those who unawares to themselves may be carried away with the doctrines of the Quakers And I shall be briefe in speaking to it The way that I shall take shall be very plain to be understood for I shall not lay down any doubtful sentence in my speech to them nor others And first I shall shew you that the doctrine of the Quakers is an errour and how 2. Who they are that are carried away with it and why 3. The way Satan takes to make this delusion or filthie doctrine to take place in the soul That the doctrine of the Quakers is false or an errour I shall shew first by discovering the doctrine it self Now the Doctrine of the Quakers is plainly this Namely that every man that comes into the world hath the Spirit of Christ in him Now that this is an errour is clear because the word of God saith plainly That some are sensual having not the Spirit Jude 19. And again Tbe unregenerate man in the time of his unregenerate state is without Christ Eph. 2.12 2. He that will but observe the motions of that light which every man hath within him say they so as to obey and close in with it to follow it shall undoubtedly be saved from the wrath to com Now this is clearly a grosse errour for first If all men have not Christ as they have not then is it not an errour to presse men to seek for life by following that which is not able to give life Yet this they do who labour to perswade men yea the souls of men that it is no lesse then the very Spirit of Christ in every man that doth convince of siâ— when the Scriptures say plainly the Law Rom 3.20 Conscience Rom 2.15 and Nature it self Rom. 2.14 1 Cor. 11.14 will and doth convince of sin yet none of these is the Spirit of Christ And the great argument that they bring to prove that it is the spirit of Christ is because the Spirit doth also convince of sin Now what a poor argument is this to say That because the Spirit of Christ doth convince of sin therefore whatsoever doth convince of sin must needs be the Spirit of Christ As much as to say because the Saints are called the light of the world Joh. 8.12 Mat. 5.14 therefore the Saints are the Saviour of the world seeing Christ also doth call himself the light of the world Or because the Moon hath or is light therefore the Moon is the Sun This is but sophistical arguing and doth beget most damnable errours and heresies in the world but this is the way that they take to intangle poor souls with their sad and erroneous doctrine see page 22. of his book line 12. and 13. They say that it must be Christ within them that must within them work out
justification for them when it is evident from the whole current of Scripture that the Son of Mary was delivered to be crucified for our offences and his Resurrection through faith in it is our justification as all along through grace I have declared and cleared And the work that the Spirit doth in point of justification is to shew us what the Son of Mary hath done and suffered in his own body on the tree and is now doing in the presence of his Father in the highest heaven Jude 19. Eph. 2.12 And to help us to apply this to our souls by faith now for a preservative against these and the like delusions observe First as I said before All have not the Spirit of Christ 2. That the law with all our obedience to it is not able to save or justifie any poor soul Rom. 3.20 For by the works of the law shall no flesh living be justified though it gives the knowledge of sin 3. That there is none other way to be justified in the sight of God but by laying hold of what the Son of Mary Jesus did do and suffer in his own person when he was in the world For it is by him and what he hath done in his own person by himself Heb. 1.2 that any man is justified from his sins and the wrath of God due to the same by believing that his blood was shed for their sins as it is written By his stripes we are healed Isa 53.5 as if their own blood had been shed for their own sins and that his righteousnesse is theirs by imputation as if they themselvs had actually fulfilled all the law of God for their own justification Rom. 10.4 The second thing is who are they that are carried away with this delusion and why Answ First not one of God's elect whom he foreknew shall be utterly destroied thereby I do not say they shall not be led away for a time but they shall not be utterly destroied for they are kept by the mighty power of God through faith unto salvation But they are such as are not indeed the elect of God not chosen in Christ before the world began Though Hymeneus Philetus fall away and overthrow the faith of some yet the foundation of God stands sure having this seal The Lord knoweth them that are his 2 Tim. 2. ver 18 19. Secondly they are such as in time past for the generality of them were either but light frothie professors or else were shaken in their principles and unstable therein as saith the Scriptures They that are deceivers do beguile unstable souls Or if they were such as were in appearance sober and serious in the account of others it was either from those convictions they had from the Law or else from high notions they had of the Gospel which have both such influence at som time on the foul though not savingly that the soul will go very far in obedience to them as for example Herod who was an enemie to the truth yet for a time had such heart-workings being convinced by the preaching of John the Baptist that he feared him and observed him and when hee heard him he did many things and heard him gladly Mark 6. ver 20. Now the reason why such people are carried away with such heresies as these or the like is First that as they were not of the elect of God so God by suffering them to be carried away finally may make it appear that they were not of his elect They went out from us but they were not of us for if they had been of us they would no doubt have continued with us But they went out from us that it might be made manifest or that men might see that they were not all of us 1 Joh. 2.9 2. Because God will not have his Church so disturbed alwaies with such as are not of the truth Now there are some men that have their time to walk with the Church of God by permission and these men are ever and anon ready to broach their errours even while they are among the Saints to their trouble Now God having a care of his Church hath a time to suffer the Divel to run through the world with some erroneous doctrine or other which when these men taste being spirited before hand for that purpose do presently close in with the same to the purifying of the Church and the manifestation of hemselvs And thus every branch which the Lord 's right hand hath not plantd shall and must have a time to be rooted up Mat. 15.13 3. Because others that are of the right graffing in may notwithstanding not resume but fear least they also fall through the same example of others who re already fallen or may fall hereafter Heb. 4.1 2 11. 4. Because others may see that it is not by their own strength that they do stand but fâ—eely by the grace of God and his power and love towards them in the Lord Jesus Christ God hath chosen som before the foundation of the world Now to manifest this though they are even as bad as the worst by natuâ—e yet I say because God will shew his power and his love he doth preserve some to eternal life though others fall into eternal damnation Of all that thou hast given me saith Christ have I lost none but the son of perdition that the Scripture might be fulfilled Joh. 17.12 Many other reasons might bee given why these things must and shall be but I rather chuse to forbear Onely thus much I have spoken because I know it is my duty to speak a few words unto you that you may either close in with the truth or else the more clearly be left without excuse at the great day The third and last thing is the way that Satan takes to make those delusions take place in the soul Now the way whereby he makes these or any other delusions to take place in the soul is first to perswade the soul that they are the truth and secondly to to stir up in the soul an enmitie to any thing or person that shall declare the contrary First they are given over to believe a lie that is To believe false doctrine to be the doctrine of God and of Christ And that he might bring this to passe he goeth about to change the names of things and because the Law Conscience and Nature it self can convince of sin therefore he calleth them Christ or the light of Christ Saying to a natural man one that is not yet converted Minde the light wihin you If they ask what light say they That which doth convince of sin If they farther ask Why what is that They say It is the light of Christ the light of life or Christ within Now these things are nothing else but conscience nature or the law for a naturall man hath nothing else that dwelleth within him to convince him of sin onely these things have a new name put upon them