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A47159 More divisions amongst the Quakers as appears by the following books of their own writing, viz. I. The Christian faith of New-England Quakers condemn'd by a meeting of Pensilvanian Quakers. II. The false judgment of a yearly meeting of Quakers in Maryland, condemn'd by George Keith, Thomas Budd, &c. all Quakers : to which is added, A discovery of this mystery of iniquity / by George Keith. Keith, George, 1639?-1716.; Budd, Thomas, 1648-1699. 1693 (1693) Wing K182; ESTC R14234 21,479 25

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they call their Discerning as first whereas the Meeting in the Country used to be kept at an honest mans House and this man favoured me therefore they had a sence that he was a man of a wrong Spirit but whereas there was another that rise up in great Opposition to me charging me of Blasphemy because I said God was present in all his Creatures and of false Doctrine because I said Christ was in Heaven our Elder Brother and that he would appear again to judge the Quick and the Dead at the great Day therefore a Company of them removed their Meeting to this man's house whom they thought worthy crying him up as if he were no ordinary Saint whenas at the same time a Negro Woman had his Bastard carrying about in her Womb though he has a Wife of his own and though some have endeavoured to cloak it yet it appearing with more than ordinary clearness hath caused them now again to remove the Meeting from his House Secondly Another that hath lately given forth a Paper of Condemnation as if he were some great Convert about the very time of his pretended Conversion was discovered to be guilty of attempting to commit Sodomy which he hath partly confessed So that they have little cause to boast of their Converts or yet of their Spirit of Discerning And if some have left us more have left them and come to us and who are Persons of more Sobriety Fourthly Whereas H.D. saith It is sealed upon his heart that the Anger of the Lord is kindled as Fire against that Spirit of Division that appeared in G.K. and others Answ It is but ordinary to him and such other Hypocrites to take the Name of the Lord in vain it were well if he was sensible of the Fire of Gods Anger that is ready to kindle against him for his Lying Hypocrisie Enmity and falsly accusing the Innocent and seeking to justifie the Guilty We are not divided from faithful Friends and Brethren that are found in the Doctrine and Faith of Christ and whose Godly Life and Practice seal to the sincerity of their Faith but we are divided from Hypocrites Lyars and false accusers and gross Unbelievers who deny the Lord that bought them and Faith in him and for so doing God is not angry with us but well pleased having done it in obedience to Christ's Command who hath commanded us to be separate from Unbelievers 2 Cor. 6.14 27. Fifthly Whereas he accuseth me for saying The Light within is not sufficient without somewhat else he knowing in his Conscience as well as his Associates that by that something else I understand not Humane Learning nor the Letter of the Scripture nor outward Preaching but the Man Christ Jesus without us in whom all fulness of Grace Truth Light and Life dwelleth and his Death and Sufferings Resurrection Ascension and Mediation all which are something else than the measure of Grace and Light in us In this Accusation H.D. falleth in with J. Delavall and my Answer to the one will serve sufficiently to the other And though H.D. seemeth to assent and declare That the Grace of God which is sufficient is the Effect of the Death and Sufferings of Christ Jesus yet either like a gross Hypocrite or most ignorant and inconsiderate Person not to use Sam. Jening's Phrase of Ignorant Nonsensical Puppey he doth most palpably contradict his present Assertion for if the Grace of God within us be the Effect of Christ's Death and Sufferings then we are not saved only by the Grace within but by the Death and Sufferings Resurrection and Mediation of Christ without us seeing the Cause of a Cause is the Cause of the thing caused or effect Beside the Death and Sufferings of Christ and his most perfect Obedience unto Death and shedding of his most precious Blood without us was not only necessary to procure the inward Grace of God to us but also to make a Propitiation for our sins and reconcile us unto God and so was needful to our Salvation as the great Atonement and Sacrifice of Expiation as well as the procuring Cause of his Grace in us But since he chargeth me with an Errour for holding That the Grace or Light within is not sufficient without something else then seeing nothing can be an Errour but because it is opposite to some Truth that which it is opposite to is That the Light within is sufficient without any or every thing else and if so then he excludes wholly the Man Christ Jesus from having any part in our Salvation Sixthly As to the Testimonies he citeth out of Rob. Barclay's Apology they are of the same nature with what J. Delavall hath formerly cited in his Papers to which I have answered and refer to the same in print where I show that R. B. no where saith in all his Apology That the Light or Grace within is sufficient to Salvation without the Man Christ Jesus without us and what he did and suffered for us on Earth and his present Mediation and Intercession for us in Heaven All that can be gathered from R. B's words in any of his Books is first That the express distinct outward and historical Knowledge and Faith of Christ is not necessary to Salvation where it is not preached nor revealed and I say the same Secondly That men may be saved and many have been saved who have not heard Christ outwardly preached to them nor never heard or read the outward Testimony of the Scriptures concerning him Thirdly That a good Work of God may be begun in men that is of a tendency to Salvation and is Salvation begun in a general sence and respect without all Knowledge and Faith of Christs Death and Sufferings which I also grant and have all along granted and therefore neither H. Derborough J. Delavall nor any other have proved me and I believe never can prove me to contradict either Rob. Barclay's Books or any of my own Books and it is great deceit in this H. D. only in general to cite my Book of Universal Grace without mentioning the words of my Book And it is worth noticing that he exactly followeth J. Delavall not bringing one place of Scripture wherewithal to prove me in an Errour but only some Citations out of R. B. perverted and falsly applied by him And it is another piece either of gross Hypocrisie and Deceit or bold and impudent Rashness in him to say That R. Barclay doth not say the Express Knowledge of Christ who as Man died for the sins of the World for though he doth not say it in one place yet he hath it in another as pag. 86. of his Latine Apology truly thus Englished The History is profitable and comfortable joyned with the Mystery but not without it but the Mystery is and can profit without the explicit or express knowledge of the History and I still affirm the same Seventhly He grosly and most impudently belyeth me in his Paper That in my printed