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A67284 A modest plea for infants baptism wherein the lawfulness of the baptizing of infants is defended against the antipædobaptists ... : with answers to objections / by W.W. B.D. Walker, William, 1623-1684. 1677 (1677) Wing W430; ESTC R6948 230,838 470

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it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v interpolate_v in_o this_o part_n or_o a_o suspicion_n of_o it_o have_v be_v start_v before_o this_o controversy_n and_o it_o be_v observe_v that_o even_o in_o justin_n martyr_n dialogue_n with_o trypho_n the_o jew_n there_o be_v a_o passage_n that_o have_v a_o favourable_a aspect_n on_o infant_n baptism_n where_o say_v he_o c._n he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d just_a mart._n dial._n cum_fw-la tryph._n pag._n 261._o d._n c._n and_o we_o who_o through_o he_o be_v come_v unto_o god_n have_v not_o receive_v that_o circumcision_n which_o be_v according_a to_o flesh_n but_o that_o spiritual_a which_o enoch_n and_o the_o like_v keep_v but_o we_o receive_v it_o by_o baptism_n through_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n in_o as_o much_o as_o we_o have_v be_v bear_v sinner_n and_o it_o be_v free_a for_o all_o in_o like_a manner_n to_o receive_v it_o here_o the_o reason_n allege_v for_o man_n obtain_v from_o god_n that_o spiritual_a circumcision_n by_o baptism_n namely_o because_o we_o have_v be_v bear_v in_o sin_n be_v as_o true_o alledgable_a on_o the_o behalf_n of_o infant_n and_o how_o can_v it_o be_v think_v but_o that_o he_o that_o understand_v there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n for_o child_n baptise_v as_o for_o man_n shall_v be_v of_o opinion_n that_o child_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v as_o well_o as_o man_n and_o when_o he_o extend_v the_o liberty_n of_o receive_v it_o unto_o all_o why_o shall_v he_o be_v think_v not_o to_o extend_v it_o unto_o infant_n especial_o when_o as_o well_o the_o external_a motive_n of_o god_n compassion_n the_o misery_n of_o man_n be_v bear_v in_o sin_n as_o the_o internal_a mover_n of_o god_n unto_o compassion_n even_o his_o mercy_n to_o man_n so_o bear_v be_v extend_v unto_o infant_n as_o well_o as_o men._n and_o when_o he_o say_v c._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d justin_n martyr_n dialog_n cum_fw-la tryph._n pag._n 260._o b._n c._n moreover_o the_o precept_n of_o circumcision_n command_v 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