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those_o that_o think_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o institute_v to_o be_v the_o ordinary_a initiate_a sacrament_n of_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n but_o only_o of_o proselyte_n and_o that_o christian_n infant_n take_v their_o place_n in_o the_o church_n of_o course_n but_o proselyte_n from_o without_o only_o be_v to_o be_v baptise_a though_o this_o be_v a_o error_n it_o be_v probable_a that_o there_o be_v some_o then_o as_o well_o as_o now_o of_o that_o opinion_n but_o nothing_o more_o occasion_v as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v find_v the_o delay_n of_o baptism_n than_o the_o fear_n of_o the_o danger_n of_o sin_v after_o it_o especial_o of_o apostasy_n all_o hold_v that_o all_o sin_n past_o be_v pardon_v in_o baptism_n and_o heb._n 6._o and_o 10._o and_o other_o text_n and_o the_o common_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n make_v they_o think_v it_o a_o very_a perilous_a thing_n to_o sin_n wilful_o after_o illumination_n and_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o therefore_o abundance_n delay_v their_o own_o baptism_n till_o age_n and_o many_o be_v backward_o to_o baptise_v their_o child_n lest_o childish_a folly_n and_o youthful_a lust_n and_o worldly_a temptation_n shall_v draw_v they_o to_o trample_v upon_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o on_o such_o account_n all_o be_v not_o baptise_a at_o one_o age_n and_o divers_a that_o be_v baptise_a at_o age_n upon_o their_o own_o conversion_n from_o heathenism_n be_v not_o sudden_o so_o know_v as_o to_o be_v acquaint_v with_o all_o the_o case_n about_o their_o child_n right_n but_o must_v have_v a_o considerable_a time_n to_o learn_v for_o it_o be_v be_v it_o speak_v without_o offence_n to_o strict_a man_n a_o general_n and_o narrow_a sort_n of_o knowledge_n which_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n require_v in_o the_o adult_n as_o necessary_a to_o baptism_n yea_o when_o they_o have_v at_o last_o keep_v they_o long_o under_o catechise_v for_o even_o in_o augustine_n time_n though_o all_o use_v the_o same_o word_n of_o baptism_n so_o few_o have_v a_o clear_a understanding_n of_o the_o very_a baptismal_a form_n or_o word_n that_o write_v ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la de_fw-la bapt_v contr_n donat._n he_o say_v that_o as_o to_o the_o mean_v of_o those_o word_n not_o only_o the_o heretic_n sed_fw-la ipsi_fw-la carnales_fw-la parvuli_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la si_fw-la possent_fw-la singuli_fw-la diligenter_fw-la interrogari_fw-la tot_fw-la diversitates_fw-la opinionum_fw-la fortassis_fw-la quot_fw-la homines_fw-la numerarentur_fw-la animalis_fw-la enim_fw-la homo_fw-la non_fw-la percipit_fw-la etc._n etc._n anon_o tamen_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la integrum_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la §_o 22._o there_o remain_v a_o catalogue_n of_o my_o heinous_a error_n which_o he_o have_v put_v in_o the_o preface_n to_o his_o first_o edition_n and_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o second_o and_o which_o he_o and_o such_o as_o he_o have_v teach_v many_o honest_a weak_a people_n in_o london_n both_o anabaptist_n and_o independent_o to_o talk_v frightful_o and_o odious_o of_o from_o one_o another_o behind_o my_o back_n what_o shall_v i_o say_v to_o he_o and_o they_o shall_v i_o answer_v they_o that_o never_o speak_v or_o write_v to_o i_o shall_v i_o take_v this_o man_n accusation_n for_o a_o confutation_n or_o conviction_n be_v so_o deadly_a a_o enemy_n of_o antichrist_n conceit_v of_o a_o self-infallibility_a or_o that_o i_o must_v take_v my_o faith_n or_o trust_v from_o mr._n danvers_n though_o not_o from_o the_o church_n pope_n or_o general_a council_n if_o not_o what_o do_v the_o man_n think_v that_o a_o recitation_n shall_v do_v with_o i_o do_v not_o i_o know_v what_o i_o have_v write_v till_o he_o tell_v i_o §_o 23._o but_o it_o be_v other_o that_o he_o tell_v it_o to_o those_o other_o will_v read_v my_o own_o word_n or_o they_o will_v not_o if_o they_o will_v i_o will_v not_o be_v so_o