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A52531 An answer to the Provinciall letters published by the Jansenists, under the name of Lewis Montalt, against the doctrine of the Jesuits and school-divines made by some Fathers of the Society in France.; Responses aux Lettres provinciales publiées par le secrétaire de Port-Royal contre les PP. de la Compagnie de Jésus, sur le sujet de la morale des dits Pères. English. Nouet, Jacques, 1605-1680. 1659 (1659) Wing N1414; ESTC R8252 294,740 574

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