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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A20940	A conference held at Paris betweene Father Gontier a Iesuite, and Doctor Du Moulin seconded by the Lady of Salignac. Together with Doctor Du Moulin his answere to Gontier his letter to the King concerning the subiect of this conference. By Peter Du Moulin Doctor of Diuinitie, and minister of the Word of God in the church of Paris. Translated according to the French copie printed in Paris.; Veritable narré de la conference entre les Sieurs Du Moulin et Gontier. English	Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; Gontery, Jean, 1562-1616. aut	1615 (1615)	STC 7319; ESTC S111071	14,986	30

if his royall vertues were not aboue al enuie and out of the danger of forgetfulnesse they must needs lose some of their lustre by being mixt with the impurenesse of their pamphlets as pearles that are wrapt in smoake neither doth he like of these seditious preachers which now preach in their Sermons before his Maiestie that we hate dominion set al kind of gouernment at nought for his Maiestie is not ignorant that this is so farre from being true that on the contrary this is the principall cause for which we are hated to wit because wee haue not taken on oath of allegeance to anie other then to the King because we hold that the Pope cannot giue or take away realmes nor dispense with subiects for the oath of fealty because wee teach that he should not haue heere anie other lawes any other iudges any other prisons then those of the King because that we shew that his realme is spoiled of siluer which passeth ouer into Italy for the paiment of first fruits dispensations absolutions matrimoniall contracts c. And that cousenage and tyrannie are established vnder the shew of religion Finallie because we complaine that the Pope makes Kings kisse his feete and tramples on their Crownes would wee but sticke to the Pope in these things hee would easilie dispense with vs for our beleefe in the Gospell or by a speciall priuiledge would permit vs to beleeue thereon in the things which were not preiudiciall to his profit Is there any one that can accuse the reformed Churches of rebellion or attempting ought against our Kings or of conspiring to blow them vp with gun-powder and yet to dare to preach this in the presence of his Maiesty which reproach the onely consideration and manie proofes that he hath had of our fidelitie doe sufficiently confute For that the Iesuites goe about to perswade him that we are rebellious or ill-minded towards him is all one as if Caiphas should defend Iesus Christ against his Apostles or as if Catiline should accuse Cicero of sedition At the end of Master Gontiers Epistle there is a discourse annexed subscribed with the name of Corbozon Mount-gommeri which was not present at the conference but saies that he heard of it at the Vicaridge of Saint Nicholas This so honorable a name of Mount-gommeri doth vnhappily come to be written vnder so base a pamphlet and I cannot beleeue that so false and ridiculous peece of stuffe should come from vnder the handes of a Gentleman of that honor as he is without doubt some paltry Iesuite composed this writing at his pleasure which comes no more neere the truth of that which past betweene vs then Ouid his Metamorphosis doth to that of the Gospell And indeed the recitall that Master Gontier hath made of our conference in his letter to the King hath nothing like vnto this but Monsieur de Corbozon is willing to honor it in couering it vnder his name as with a cloake which will scarce euer be brought him backe againe cleane It would bee time lost to go about to confute this writing for if I should conuince the Author of absurditie Master Gontier would renounce him as one that had written vpon false information and so I should haue done as good as nothing As for the defiance and threatnings of Master Gontier we neuer yet refused vpon any occasion that was offered to enter the lists vpon iust and equall termes But this people loues to set on men in corners that they may a little after publish the contrary the more freely especially when they haue one in hand to deale withall which is alreadie conuerted and which hath promised to yeeld himselfe before the combat only they make it deferre it a little till the time they haue plotted a conference Now for to iustifie this which I say to be true Master Gontier a few daies after all this adoe ill befitting the grauitie of a Doctour will not yet let mee scapeso saying that he will enter in conference with me concerning the antiquitie of our Church and I meaning to enter the lists with him haue at this time sent him a writing of which this is the substance I maintaine that M. Gontier can not shew me in the foure first ages after Christ any Church or any man which held the same religion as the Church of Rome doth at this day and for this purpose 1 He should shew me any ancient Church that celebrated the Communion without Communicants as they do ordinarily in the Church of Rome 2 That he should shew me that any ancient Church did barre the people of the Communion of the cup. 3 Or that in any ancient Church the common seruice was read in a tongue which the people vnderstood not 4 Or that any ancient Church did forbid the people to read the holy Scriptures as it is by no meanes permitted without a speciall priuiledge in the countries where the Pope is absolute Commander 5 Or that in any ancient Church there were euer made any images of God and representation of the Trinitie in stone or in painting 6 Or that in any auncient Church the people were taught to pray without vnderstanding that which they said 7 Or that any ancient Church did do seruice to the images of Creatures in kissing them in clothing them by bowing themselues downe before them and offring vp sacrifices vnto them 8 Or that any ancient Church euer beleeued that the Virgine Mary is crowned Queene of heauen and Empresse of the world as it is painted throughout all their Churches 9 Or that any ancient Church did assigne diuers offices to Saints to one ouer this Country to another ouer that to one ouer this sicknesse to another ouer that to one ouer this trade c. 10 Or that any ancient Church did euer beleeue that the Pope could giue and take away realmes and free subiects from their oath of allegeance canonize Saints dispense with vowes and promises made vnto God 11 Or that in the ancient Church the Pope by his pardons did distribute the superabundant satisfactions of the Saints for the remission of the punishment of the sinnes of others 12 Or that the Pope did then lay his pardons on one Church and not on another on one village and not on another and this sometimes for one hundred and two hundred yeares of true pardon 13 Or that the ancient Church did beleeue a Lymbus of little infants 14 Or that the ancient Church did euer adore the host which the Priest holds with diuine worship and that this is the cause why the Priest doth vse to hold vp the host in the Masse 15 Or that the bookes of the Machabees were held for Canonicall in the ancient Church 16 Or that the ancient Church did beleeue that the Bishop of Rome could not erre in the faith 17 Or that the ancient Church did beleeue that Iesus Christ by his death and suffering did indeed discharge vs from the punishment of sinne before baptisme but as for the punishment of sinne committed after baptisme he hath changed it from eternall vnto temporall and that it lies vs vpon to satisfie the iustice of God for this That Master Gontier should tell vs if in these points he will admit of the Fathers for iudges we will aske but halfe a douzen cleare passages vpon euery point FINIS * He did the like at Amiens against Monsieur Hucher being troubled to answer he sent to fetch his concordance