in_o the_o defense_n for_o archbishop_n and_o the_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n 470._o etc._n etc._n ¶_o archdeacon_n 344._o etc._n etc._n ¶_o archiflamines_fw-la 320._o etc._n etc._n 323_o ¶_o argumentum_fw-la à _fw-la secundùm_fw-la quid_fw-la ad_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la 23_o argumentum_fw-la ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la negatiuè_fw-fr 24._o 26._o 77._o 328._o 543_o argument_n of_o negative_n by_o comparison_n 26_o 27_o argumentum_fw-la à _fw-la petitione_n principij_fw-la 26._o 62._o 95._o 249._o 302._o 304._o 314._o 322._o 440._o 451._o argumentum_fw-la à _fw-la non_fw-la causa_fw-la pro_fw-la causa_fw-la 27._o 293._o 482._o argumentum_fw-la ab_fw-la aequivocatione_fw-la 62_o argumentum_fw-la à _fw-la facto_fw-la ad_fw-la we_o 142._o 161._o 505._o argumentum_fw-la ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la affirmatiuè_fw-fr 78_o argumentum_fw-la ex_fw-la solis_fw-la particularibus_fw-la pag._n 79_o argumentum_fw-la ab_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la elenchi_fw-la 109._o 181._o 187._o 206._o 426._o a_o deform_a argument_n 316._o etc._n etc._n argument_n borrow_v of_o the_o papist_n 466._o 696._o 697._o 698._o etc._n etc._n argumentum_fw-la à _fw-la toto_fw-la ad_fw-la part_n affirmatiuè_fw-fr 265_o ¶_o aristotle_n not_o right_o allege_v 243_o ¶_o arrogancy_n cloak_v with_o zeal_n 42_o arrogancy_n disprayse_v good_a thing_n pag._n 725_o arrogancy_n of_o the_o libeler_n 57_o ¶_o assertion_n unaduised_a 475_o ¶_o athanasius_n archbishop_n 471._o 339_o athanasius_n creed_n 496_o athanasius_n be_v a_o child_n baptize_v pag._n 519._o ¶_o atheist_n in_o the_o church_n 178_o ¶_o ancient_a father_n contemn_v of_o the_o unlearned_a 811_o ¶_o augustine_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a pag._n 99_o &c_n &c_n augustine_n deliver_v from_o untrue_a surmise_n 100_o augustine_n hear_v civil_a cause_n 771._o 772._o augustine_n retort_v upon_o the_o adversary_n 811_o ¶_o aurelius_n bishop_n of_o carthage_n have_v the_o oversight_n of_o many_o church_n pag._n 471_o ¶_o authority_n the_o best_a proof_n in_o 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sort_n 80_o how_o we_o have_v but_o 2._o ceremony_n 119_o substantial_a ceremony_n 80_o accidental_a ceremony_n 80_o rule_n of_o ceremony_n 86._o 87_o the_o controversy_n about_o ceremony_n confess_v by_o t._n c._n 85._o 86._o 126_o every_o church_n have_v a_o order_n of_o ceremony_n 707_o how_o ceremony_n serve_v to_o edify_v pag._n 286._o etc._n etc._n why_o god_n appoint_v so_o many_o ceremony_n to_o the_o jew_n 305_o disterence_n betwixt_o popish_a ceremony_n and_o we_o 616_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o assertion_n about_o ceremony_n unanswered_a by_o t._n c._n pag._n 94_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 158._o etc._n etc._n 163_o ¶_o children_n of_o papist_n and_o excommu_a nicate_a person_n may_v be_v baptisedpag_n 621._o &c_n &c_n how_o child_n be_v say_v to_o believe_v 608_o ¶_o christ_n call_v archbishop_n 300_o christ_n use_v unleavened_a biead_n 593._o etc._n etc._n ¶_o christian_n man_n sheep_n but_o reasonable_a 172_o the_o number_n of_o christian_n more_o now_o than_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n 175_o ¶_o chrisostome_n a_o archbishop_n 412._o etc._n etc._n 472._o chris_n stome_n exercise_v archiepiscopall_a jurisdiction_n in_o asia_n 414_o chrisostome_n of_o distinction_n of_o degree_n pag._n 387_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 682_o ¶_o church_n can_v be_v shut_v up_o in_o one_o province_n now_o 465_o the_o church_n be_v reform_v not_o transform_v 474_o to_o frame_v all_o church_n after_o one_o be_v dangerous_a 481._o 482_o church_n for_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n 636._o 66_o no_o church_n may_v challenge_v to_o be_v a_o pattern_n necessary_o to_o be_v follow_v 704_o the_o church_n full_a of_o hypocrite_n 176_o some_o in_o the_o church_n and_o not_o of_o the_o church_n 179_o no_o church_n establish_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o how_o 180._o 18_o the_o church_n in_o persecution_n in_o constantine_n time_n 188._o 189_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n in_o thing_n indifferent_a 76._o etc._n etc._n what_o thing_n be_v leave_v to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n 83._o 88_o etc._n etc._n 713._o the_o
to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o truth_n and_o notorious_a untruth_n affirm_v by_o he_o of_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o admonition_n with_o sundry_a other_o gross_a oversight_n because_o i_o have_v note_v they_o in_o the_o margin_n and_o plain_o detect_v they_o in_o my_o defense_n to_o this_o reply_o and_o be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n note_v also_o in_o the_o general_n table_n under_o these_o 3._o title_n falsification_n of_o the_o reply_o t._n c._n charge_v with_o untruth_n t._n c._n charge_v the_o answer_n false_o man_n may_v err_v and_o be_v deceive_v but_o either_o to_o speak_v nothing_o true_o or_o often_o to_o fault_n in_o untrue_a deal_n can_v be_v a_o token_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n the_o which_o spirit_n of_o truth_n god_n for_o his_o christ_n sake_n grant_v unto_o all_o those_o that_o have_v a_o hearty_a desire_n to_o know_v the_o truth_n finis_fw-la a_o table_n of_o the_o principal_a title_n and_o matter_n handle_v at_o large_a in_o this_o book_n a_o 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indifferent_a chap._n 2_o 95_o the_o opinion_n of_o saint_n augustine_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n 3_o 99_o the_o opinion_n of_o m._n caluine_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n 4._o 109_o the_o opinion_n of_o bucer_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n 5_o 113_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o place_n of_o deut._n 4._o &_o 12._o quote_v by_o the_o admonition_n chap._n 6._o 116_o the_o opinion_n of_o other_o late_a writer_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n 7._o 126_o tract_n 3._o of_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n 132_o of_o the_o trial_n of_o minister_n both_o in_o lear_a ning_n and_o conversation_n chap._n 1._o pag._n 132_o whether_o idolatrous_a sacrificer_n and_o massemonger_n may_v afterwards_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n chap._n 2._o 143_o of_o minister_n learn_v catechism_n chap_n â–ª_o 3._o 152_o of_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n by_o the_o voice_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n chap._n 4._o 154_o a_o examination_n of_o the_o reason_n which_o t._n c._n use_v to_o prove_v the_o perpetual_a equity_n etc._n etc._n of_o election_n by_o the_o people_n chap._n 5._o 170_o the_o diversity_n betwixt_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o we_o require_v a_o diverse_a kind_n of_o government_n and_o of_o order_v of_o minister_n chap._n 6._o 174_o that_o bishop_n have_v authority_n to_o admit_v and_o ordain_v minister_n chap._n 7._o 194_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o the_o people_n shall_v have_v interest_n in_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n but_o the_o contrary_n be_v convenient_a chap._n 8._o 211_o tract_n 4._o of_o minister_n have_v no_o pastoral_a charge_n of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o order_v minister_n of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n 216_o of_o minister_n admit_v a_o place_n be_v not_o void_a chap._n 1_o 216_o of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o ordain_v â—i_n nister_n chap._n 2._o 225_o of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n chap._n 3._o 228_o tract_n 5._o of_o residence_n of_o the_o pastor_n chap._n 1._o 235_o of_o plurality_n 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wherewith_o the_o admonitor_n charge_v the_o apparel_n answer_v chap._n 7_o 283_o tract_n 8._o of_o archbishop_n metropolitans_n bishop_n archdeacon_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 297_o the_o reason_n of_o t._n c._n answer_v where_o by_o he_o go_v about_o to_o take_v away_o the_o superfluous_a lop_v as_o he_o term_v it_o of_o the_o office_n chap._n 1._o 297_o that_o the_o name_n of_o metropolitan_a archbishop_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o antichristian_a chap._n 2._o 318_o the_o office_n of_o archbishop_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o strange_a or_o unheard_a of_o in_o chri_n stes_fw-la church_n and_o of_o superiority_n among_o the_o clergy_n chap._n 3._o 353_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o answer_v of_o master_n jewel_n concern_v archbishop_n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o unreverend_a reply_n of_o t._n c._n chap._n 4_o 422_o the_o cause_n of_o archbishop_n and_o of_o their_o prerogative_n and_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o old_a bishop_n assign_v by_o t._n c._n examine_v chap._n 5._o 435_o other_o thing_n 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permit_v it_o if_o he_o nt_v plain_o herein_o there_o need_v not_o so_o much_o a_o do_v io._n whitgifte_n here_o be_v nothing_o say_v which_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n have_v not_o allege_v before_o either_o in_o their_o book_n or_o in_o their_o addition_n and_o therefore_o the_o same_o answer_n that_o be_v make_v unto_o they_o will_v serve_v for_o you_o i_o tell_v you_o there_o private_a why_o baptism_n be_v call_v private_a that_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n do_v call_v it_o private_a baptism_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o place_n which_o be_v a_o private_a house_n and_o not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o minister_n which_o evident_o appear_v in_o these_o word_n which_o you_o yourself_o allege_v in_o this_o place_n that_o be_v that_o the_o minister_n be_v bid_v to_o give_v they_o warning_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o baptise_v the_o child_n at_o home_n in_o their_o house_n etc._n etc._n but_o you_o can_v thereof_o conclude_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o book_n to_o be_v that_o woman_n shall_v baptise_v for_o even_o in_o that_o necessity_n the_o curate_n may_v be_v send_v for_o or_o some_o other_o minister_n that_o may_v soon_o be_v come_v by_o your_o question_n be_v soon_o answer_v for_o no_o man_n doubt_v of_o the_o person_n that_o be_v present_a at_o such_o a_o time_n but_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o that_o when_o such_o necessity_n require_v the_o curate_n or_o the_o next_o minister_n be_v soon_o send_v for_o as_o often_o time_n he_o be_v in_o as_o great_a extremity_n as_o that_o and_o what_o a_o reason_n call_v you_o this_o woman_n be_v present_a when_o the_o child_n that_o be_v bear_v be_v in_o great_a danger_n of_o death_n therefore_o the_o minister_n can_v be_v send_v for_o to_o baptise_v the_o child_n to_o your_o objection_n of_o the_o magistrate_n allow_v the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v by_o woman_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o your_o general_a proposition_n be_v untrue_a as_o i_o think_v for_o all_o the_o magistrate_n of_o this_o realm_n do_v not_o so_o second_o that_o if_o they_o do_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o do_v it_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o book_n for_o many_o thing_n be_v permit_v as_o tolerable_a which_o be_v not_o establish_v by_o any_o law_n and_o therefore_o if_o you_o have_v do_v well_o you_o shall_v rather_o have_v reprove_v the_o custom_n that_o do_v use_v it_o than_o the_o book_n that_o speak_v never_o a_o word_n of_o it_o i_o deal_v as_o plain_o as_o i_o can_v for_o i_o keep_v i_o to_o the_o book_n but_o your_o vain_a conjecture_n and_o frivolous_a reason_n against_o that_o book_n may_v not_o be_v yield_v unto_o but_o open_v that_o they_o may_v appear_v in_o their_o colour_n chap._n 3._o the._n 2._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 79._o sect._n ult._n your_o place_n of_o scripture_n allege_v against_o it_o be_v not_o of_o sufficient_a argument_n feeble_n argument_n force_n to_o prove_v your_o purpose_n christ_n in_o the._n 28._o of_o matthew_n say_v to_o his_o disciple_n go_v and_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_a they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la woman_n may_v not_o baptise_v i_o say_v this_o argument_n follow_v not_o no_o more_o than_o this_o do_v ergo_fw-la pastor_n may_v not_o baptise_v for_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o a_o apostle_n be_v dislincte_n from_o a_o pastor_n t._n c._n pag._n 109._o sect._n 5._o the_o place_n of_o the._n 28._o of_o saint_n matthew_n be_v as_o strong_a against_o woman_n baptise_v as_o it_o be_v against_o their_o preach_n for_o 〈◊〉_d for_o untruth_n 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n can_v not_o be_v pull_v in_o sunder_o which_o y_o e_z lord_n have_v join_v together_o from_o time_n to_o time_n for_o
then_o come_v it_o neither_o from_o the_o papist_n nor_o yet_o from_o the_o gentile_n but_o whensoever_o this_o begin_v or_o from_o who_o soever_o it_o be_v take_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n have_v always_o be_v think_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n by_o all_o such_o as_o have_v not_o divide_v themselves_o by_o any_o schism_n or_o heresy_n from_o the_o same_o chap._n 5._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 113._o sect._n 4._o now_o i_o return_v to_o the_o example_n of_o sephora_n and_o say_v that_o the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o that_o fact_n do_v appear_v sufficient_o in_o that_o she_o do_v it_o himself_o it_o mose_n by_o reason_n of_o sickness_n be_v not_o able_a to_o do_v it_o himself_o before_o her_o husband_n moses_n which_o be_v a_o prophet_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o 1_o and_o this_o be_v contrary_a to_o that_o he_o have_v pag._n 17_o sect._n 1_o to_o who_o that_o office_n of_o circumcision_n do_v appertain_v so_o that_o unless_o m._n doctor_n will_v have_v midwife_n 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in_o the._n 170._o page_z of_o your_o book_n you_o say_v that_o god_n take_v the_o priesthode_n from_o moses_n 1_o pag._n 170._o sect._n 1_o and_o give_v it_o to_o aaron_n and_o now_o you_o seem_v to_o affirm_v the_o contrary_a in_o say_v that_o moses_n be_v a_o prophet_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o who_o that_o office_n of_o circumcision_n do_v apperteyne_a for_o hereby_o you_o do_v insinuate_v that_o moses_n be_v a_o priest_n moreover_o moses_n at_o this_o time_n be_v extréemely_a sick_a and_o therefore_o can_v not_o execute_v that_o office_n himself_o and_o in_o the_o geneva_n bible_n there_o be_v this_o note_n that_o it_o be_v extraordinary_a for_o moses_n be_v sore_o sick_a and_o god_n even_o then_o require_v it_o sephora_n therefore_o do_v circumcise_v in_o a_o point_n of_o extremity_n minister_v baptism_n true_a though_o not_o ordinary_o minister_v and_o not_o wilful_o or_o of_o purpose_n &_o that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o true_a circumcision_n though_o it_o be_v not_o do_v ordinary_o even_o so_o baptism_n be_v true_a baptism_n though_o it_o be_v sometime_o minister_v by_o such_o as_o be_v not_o ordinary_a minister_n the_o event_n do_v oftentimes_o declare_v the_o thing_n exitus_fw-la acta_fw-la probat_fw-la though_o not_o necessary_o but_o this_o be_v certain_a that_o these_o evente_n be_v better_a reason_n to_o justify_v the_o fact_n than_o you_o can_v she_o we_o any_o out_o of_o that_o place_n to_o the_o contrary_n chap._n 5._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 113._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 114._o sect._n 1_o an_o other_o reason_n he_o have_v which_o be_v that_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o sacrament_n do_v not_o depend_v upon_o the_o man_n whether_o he_o be_v minister_v or_o no_o minister_n good_a or_o evil_n in_o deed_n upon_o this_o point_n whether_o he_o be_v good_a or_o a_o evil_a minister_n it_o depend_v not_o but_o on_o this_o point_n whether_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n or_o no_o depend_v not_o only_o the_o dignity_n but_o also_o proof_n 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doctrine_n then_o be_v there_o many_o that_o go_v under_o the_o name_n doctrine_n the_o inconvenience_n of_o the_o replier_n doctrine_n of_o christian_n which_o be_v never_o baptize_v for_o beside_o diverse_a that_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o woman_n some_o there_o be_v and_o not_o a_o few_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o such_o as_o have_v take_v upon_o they_o the_o ministry_n not_o be_v thereunto_o either_o ordinary_o or_o extraordinary_o call_v and_o it_o may_v so_o be_v that_o t._n c._n have_v hereby_o prove_v himself_o to_o be_v no_o christian._n and_o sure_o if_o you_o peruse_v all_o the_o write_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o of_o the_o patroness_n the_o assertion_n have_v no_o sufficient_a patroness_n late_a writer_n in_o like_a manner_n i_o believe_v that_o you_o shall_v not_o find_v the_o like_a proposition_n affirm_v for_o although_o diverse_a both_o old_a and_o new_a do_v not_o allow_v that_o lay_v man_n shall_v be_v suffer_v to_o baptise_v yet_o be_v there_o 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baptism_n be_v about_o the_o person_n because_o they_o think_v that_o baptism_n can_v not_o be_v give_v of_o any_o but_o of_o a_o priest_n only_o whereas_o if_o necessity_n do_v require_v any_o man_n may_v do_v it_o and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v that_o this_o and_o such_o like_a circumstance_n be_v not_o de_n ipsa_fw-la baptismi_fw-la essentia_fw-la not_o of_o the_o be_v of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o your_o assertion_n m._n caluine_n also_o in_o his_o institution_n cap._n 17._o sect._n 16._o do_v sufficient_o caluine_n caluine_n confute_v this_o error_n in_o these_o word_n now_o if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o we_o have_v set_v down_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o to_o be_v esteem_v of_o his_o hand_n by_o who_o it_o be_v minister_v but_o as_o it_o be_v of_o the_o
and_o part_n of_o the_o church_n chap._n 5._o the._n 8._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 153._o sect._n 2._o m._n bucer_n in_o his_o censure_n upon_o the_o communion_n book_n speak_v of_o bucer_n bucer_n the_o order_n appoint_v in_o the_o same_o for_o private_a baptism_n write_v thus_o in_o this_o constitution_n all_o thing_n be_v godly_a appoint_v i_o will_v to_o god_n they_o expedient_a differ_v of_o baptism_n not_o expedient_a be_v so_o observe_v and_o especial_o this_o that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o differ_v for_o thereby_o be_v a_o door_n open_v unto_o the_o devil_n to_o bring_v in_o a_o contempt_n of_o baptism_n and_o so_o of_o our_o whole_a redemption_n and_o communion_n of_o christ_n which_o through_o the_o sect_n of_o anabaptiste_n have_v to_o much_o prevayl_v with_o many_o t._n c._n pag._n 114._o sect._n 2._o in_o the_o 153._o page_n m._n bucers_n censure_n upon_o the_o communion_n book_n be_v cite_v for_o the_o allowance_n of_o that_o it_o have_v touch_v private_a baptism_n and_o consequent_o of_o the_o baptism_n by_o woman_n it_o may_v be_v that_o as_o m._n bucer_n although_o otherwise_o very_o learned_a have_v courtesy_n have_v this_o be_v but_o gross_a courtesy_n other_o gross_a absurdity_n so_o he_o may_v have_v that_o but_o it_o have_v be_v for_o the_o credit_n of_o your_o cause_n if_o you_o have_v show_v that_o out_o of_o those_o writing_n which_o be_v publish_v &_o know_v to_o be_v his_o &_o not_o out_o of_o those_o whereof_o man_n may_v doubt_v whether_o ever_o he_o write_v any_o such_o or_o no_o and_o if_o he_o write_v whether_o they_o be_v corrupt_v by_o those_o into_o who_o hand_n they_o come_v and_o if_o you_o will_v take_v any_o advantage_n of_o m._n bucers_n testimony_n consider_v that_o a_o witness_n be_v a_o public_a person_n you_o shall_v have_v bring_v he_o out_o of_o your_o study_n into_o the_o stationer_n shop_n where_o he_o may_v have_v be_v common_a to_o other_o as_o well_o as_o to_o you_o whereby_o his_o stile_n and_o manner_n of_o writing_n as_o it_o be_v by_o his_o gesture_n and_o countenance_n and_o by_o those_o thing_n that_o go_v before_o and_o come_v after_o as_o it_o be_v by_o his_o head_n and_o by_o his_o foot_z we_o may_v the_o better_o know_v whether_o it_o be_v the_o true_a bucer_n or_o no._n io._n whitgifte_n it_o be_v very_o gross_a courtesy_n that_o you_o show_v to_o so_o worthy_a and_o learned_a a_o man_n modesty_n man_n the_o reverence_n which_o t._n c._n give_v to_o learned_a man_n and_o charity_n will_v not_o have_v be_v so_o rash_a as_o to_o answer_v that_o which_o he_o well_o speak_v in_o opprobrious_o object_v unto_o he_o his_o other_o error_n which_o you_o call_v gross_a absurdity_n but_o this_o be_v the_o reverence_n that_o you_o give_v to_o all_o learning_n and_o learned_a man_n that_o be_v contrary_a to_o your_o opinion_n i_o have_v sometime_o hear_v a_o papiste_n burst_v out_o into_o this_o rage_n against_o m._n bucer_n be_v press_v with_o his_o authority_n but_o you_o be_v the_o first_o professor_n of_o the_o gospel_n that_o ever_o i_o hear_v so_o churlish_o to_o use_v so_o reverend_a so_o learned_a so_o painful_a so_o sound_o a_o father_n be_v also_o a_o earnest_n and_o zealous_a professor_n it_o cause_v i_o the_o less_o to_o regard_v what_o you_o speak_v of_o i_o when_o i_o hear_v such_o bitterness_n against_o all_o other_o be_v they_o never_o so_o zealous_a and_o excellent_a well_o bucer_n reason_n which_o touch_v the_o quick_a will_v have_v be_v reasonable_o answer_v without_o spite_n and_o you_o shall_v rather_o have_v consider_v they_o than_o the_o author_n there_o be_v nothing_o in_o these_o word_n by_o he_o affirm_v which_o be_v not_o in_o as_o plain_a term_n avouch_v by_o zuinglius_fw-la in_o the_o word_n before_o recite_v the_o book_n of_o m._n bucers_n be_v forth_o come_v to_o be_v show_v and_o he_o affirm_v nothing_o therein_o contrary_a to_o his_o book_n publish_v he_o have_v more_o special_a occasion_n here_o offer_v to_o speak_v both_o of_o this_o and_o other_o matter_n now_o in_o controversy_n and_o therefore_o the_o more_o he_o be_v to_o be_v credit_v chap._n 5._o the._n 9_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 114._o sect._n 2._o for_o although_o i_o will_v not_o say_v but_o that_o this_o may_v be_v bucer_n do_v yet_o it_o seem_v very_o strange_a that_o bucer_n shall_v not_o only_o contrary_a to_o the_o learned_a writer_n now_o but_o also_o contrary_a to_o all_o learned_a antiquity_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n while_o there_o be_v any_o tolerable_a estate_n allow_v of_o woman_n baptise_v velan_n baptise_v de_fw-fr virgin_n velan_n tertullian_n say_v it_o be_v not_o permit_v to_o a_o woman_n to_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n nor_o to_o teach_v or_o to_o baptize_v nor_o to_o do_v any_o work_n of_o a_o man_n much_o less_o of_o a_o minister_n baptis_n minister_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_n and_o in_o a_o other_o place_n although_o he_o do_v permit_v it_o to_o be_v do_v by_o say_v man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o necessity_n as_o it_o be_v term_v yet_o he_o give_v not_o that_o licence_n to_o the_o woman_n haeres_fw-la woman_n epiph._n li._n 1._o contra_fw-la haeres_fw-la epiphanius_n upbrayd_v martion_n that_o he_o suffer_v woman_n to_o baptise_v and_o priscil_n and_o lib._n vbi_fw-la de_fw-la phry_n gib_n &_o priscil_n in_o a_o other_o book_n he_o deride_v they_o that_o they_o make_v woman_n bishop_n and_o 3._o and_o lib._n 3._o in_o a_o other_o book_n he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o grant_v unto_o the_o holy_a mother_n of_o christ_n to_o baptise_v her_o son_n io._n whitgifte_n m._n bucer_n speak_v not_o one_o word_n in_o this_o place_n of_o baptise_v by_o woman_n but_o of_o private_a baptism_n which_o neither_o tertullian_n nor_o epiphanius_n in_o these_o place_n by_o you_o allege_v do_v disallow_v chap._n 5._o the._n 10._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 115._o lin._n 6._o cap._n 1._o li._n the_o merit_n &_o remis_fw-la peccat_fw-la 24._o cap._n contra_n e_o piss_v parmen_fw-la lib._n 2._o 13._o cap._n augustine_n although_o he_o be_v of_o that_o mind_n that_o child_n can_v not_o be_v save_v without_o baptism_n untruth_n a_o untruth_n yet_o in_o the_o time_n of_o necessity_n as_o it_o be_v call_v he_o do_v not_o allow_v either_o of_o baptism_n in_o private_a house_n or_o by_o woman_n but_o when_o there_o be_v danger_n the_o woman_n haste_v to_o carry_v the_o child_n unto_o the_o church_n and_o although_o he_o do_v seem_v to_o allow_v of_o the_o baptism_n of_o a_o lay_v man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o necessity_n yet_o there_o also_o he_o mention_v not_o woman_n baptism_n and_o further_o he_o doubt_v whether_o the_o child_n shall_v be_v baptize_v again_o which_o be_v baptize_v by_o a_o lay_n man_n io._n whitgifte_n where_o do_v s._n augustine_n disallow_v baptise_v by_o woman_n or_o in_o private_a house_n he_o utter_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o any_o of_o the_o place_n quote_v in_o the_o margente_fw-la will_v you_o still_o counterfeit_a be_v there_o no_o end_n with_o you_o of_o falsify_v in_o his_o second_o book_n contra_fw-la epistolam_fw-la parmeniani_n cap._n 13._o he_o do_v not_o only_o say_v that_o a_o lay_v man_n may_v baptise_v in_o the_o time_n of_o necessity_n but_o he_o also_o add_v that_o if_o it_o be_v minister_v without_o necessity_n yet_o notwithstanding_o that_o it_o be_v baptism_n as_o appear_v in_o these_o word_n as_o i_o have_v before_o say_v but_o although_o it_o be_v usurp_v he_o mean_v baptism_n by_o lay_a man_n without_o necessity_n 13._o aug._n lib._n 2._o contra_fw-la epist._n parm._n cap._n 13._o and_o be_v give_v of_o any_o man_n to_o any_o man_n that_o which_o be_v give_v can_v not_o be_v say_v not_o to_o be_v give_v although_o it_o may_v be_v right_o say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_o give_v and_o he_o do_v make_v the_o same_o manifest_a by_o two_o pretty_a similitude_n follow_v which_o i_o omit_v for_o to_o avoid_v tediousness_n the_o learned_a reader_n may_v in_o that_o place_n of_o augustine_n soon_o perceyve_v what_o a_o error_n this_o be_v to_o say_v that_o the_o minister_n be_v of_o the_o substance_n and_o be_v of_o the_o sacrament_n neither_o do_v he_o in_o either_o of_o the_o place_n either_o disallow_v baptism_n by_o woman_n or_o in_o private_a house_n as_o you_o affirm_v but_o ad_fw-la fortunatum_fw-la he_o say_v thus_o in_o fortunatum_fw-la aug._n ad_fw-la fortunatum_fw-la necessity_n when_o the_o bishop_n or_o priest_n or_o any_o other_o minister_n can_v not_o be_v find_v and_o the_o danger_n of_o he_o that_o require_v do_v constrain_v lest_o he_o shall_v depart_v this_o life_n without_o this_o sacrament_n we_o have_v hear_v that_o even_o lie_v man_n have_v give_v the_o sacrament_n that_o they_o have_v receyve_v chap._n 5._o the._n 11._o division_n t._n
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