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29._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cassand_n consult_v ferdinan_n p_o 894._o perron_n epist_n to_o casaub_v cypr._n ep_n 74._o p._n 195._o orig_n praef_n operis_fw-la contra_fw-la cell_n p._n 1_o 2._o euseb_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 1._o c._n 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hieron_n l._n the_o scriptor_n etc._n etc._n euseb_n in_o hist_o passim_fw-la tertul._n aliquorum_fw-la meminit_fw-la gontery_n veron_n and_o other_o hegesippus_n apud_fw-la euseb_n l._n 4._o c._n 22._o council_n 7._o act._n 5._o tom._n 3_o p._n 552._o hier._n l_o de_fw-fr scrip_n eccles_n tom._n 1._o p._n 346_o b._n &_o 350._o c._n council_n 7._o act_n 6._o council_n 5._o collatine_n 6._o marian._n ep_n ad_fw-la mon._n alex._n ad_fw-la calcem_fw-la council_n â—halc_n t._n 2._o p._n 450._o e._n leont_n lib._n extat_fw-la bibl._n ss_z pp_n t_o 4_o part_n 2._o greg._n thaumat_n open_fw-mi par._n ann_n 1622._o pag._n 97._o ubi_fw-la vide_fw-la voss_n bibl._n ss_z pp_n t._n 1._o gr._n lat._n council_n 6._o act._n 3._o &_o act._n 14._o t._n 3._o council_n council_n 6._o act._n 3._o &_o act._n 14._o t._n 3._o council_n council_n 7._o act._n 6._o refut_n iconoclast_n tom._n 5._o council_n florent_fw-la sess_z 20._o t._n 4._o hier._n ep._n 28._o ad_fw-la lucin._n tom._n 1._o hier._n apol._n 2._o contr_n ruff._n auctor_fw-la operis_fw-la de_fw-fr operibus_fw-la card._n christi_fw-la inter_fw-la cyprian_n op_n p._n 444._o 444._o erasmus_n in_o edit_fw-la cypr._n suâ_fw-la sixtus_n senens_fw-la biblioth_n lib._n 4._o bellar._n de_fw-fr euchar_n l_o 2._o cap._n 9_o de_fw-fr amiss_a great_a l._n 6._o c._n 2._o pâ—ssevin_n in_o apparat._v scult_a medulla_n patr._n andr._n rivet_n l._n 2._o c._n 15._o crit._n sacr._n aubert_n de_fw-fr euchar_n l._n 2._o c._n 8._o hier._n the_o script_n eccl._n tom._n 1._o p._n 350._o exit_fw-la tertul._n li._n de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la cap._n 17._o hier._n l._n 2._o apol._n contr_n ruffin_n tom._n 2._o p._n 334._o &_o ep._n 69._o t._n 2._o &_o apol._n contr_n ruff._n ad_fw-la pammach_n et_fw-fr marc._n tom._n 2._o hier._n in_o jerem._n come_v 4._o tom_n 4._o hier._n l._n 2._o apol._n contra_fw-la ruffin_n tom._n 2._o orig_n contra_fw-la cell_n lib._n 7._o council_n flor._n sess_z 2._o p_o 457._o council_n afric_n 6._o cap._n 3._o council_n flor._n sess_z 20._o codex_fw-la can._n ec._n vn_fw-fr diony_n exig_n p._n 99_o leo_n in_o ep_n ad_fw-la theodos_fw-la imp._n tom._n 2._o council_n valentin_n in_o ep_n ad_fw-la theod._n tom._n 2._o council_n galla_n placid_n in_o ep_n ad_fw-la theodos_fw-la tom._n 2._o council_n 5_o act._n 5._o tom._n 2._o council_n council_n 7._o act._n 4._o tom._n 3._o council_n nannius_n in_o edit_n open_fw-mi athan._n bellar_n de_fw-fr imag_n l._n 2_o c._n 10._o &_o lib._n de_fw-fr script_n eccles_n in_o athan_n possevin_n in_o appar_n in_o athan._n d._n 96._o c._n constantino_n nostro_fw-la 14._o augusti_fw-la steuchius_n de_fw-fr dona._n constant._n baron_n in_o annal_n melchior_n canus_n locor_fw-la theolog_fw-la l._n 11._o p._n 511._o hen._n kaltheis_n ap_fw-mi magdeb._n cent_n 2._o nic._n cusan_n conc._n cath._n l._n 2._o c._n 34._o jo._n de_fw-fr turrecr_n de_fw-fr eccl._n lib._n 2._o c._n 101._o jo._n driedo_n the_o dogm_n &_o scrip_n eccl._n l._n 1._o c._n 2._o cl._n espen_v de_fw-fr contin_n l._n 1._o c_o 2._o g._n cassand_n defence_n lib._n de_fw-fr officio_fw-la pii_fw-la viri_fw-la p._n 843._o sim._n vig._n ex_fw-la respon_n syn._n basil_n etc._n etc._n en_fw-fr la_fw-fr lettre_fw-fr contr_n durand_n baron_fw-fr annal._n t._n 2._o a_o 102._o &_o a_o 865._o erasm_n praefat_fw-la in_o hieron_n baron_fw-fr annal._n tom._n 1._o a_o 51._o bellar._n de_fw-fr lib._n arbit_fw-la t._n 5._o c._n 25._o nos_fw-la fatemur_fw-la librum_fw-la esse_fw-la corruptum_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la tamen_fw-la vel_fw-la esse_fw-la clementis_fw-la romani_fw-la vel_fw-la alterius_fw-la aequè_fw-la docti_fw-la ac_fw-la antiqui_fw-la hier._n ep_n 84._o ad_fw-la magn._n tom._n 2._o 2._o clem._n alex._n strom._n l._n 2._o 2._o id._n strom._n l._n 1._o &_o l._n 2._o &_o alibi_fw-la passim_fw-la hier._n ep_n 84._o ad_fw-la magn._n tom._n 2._o id._n in_o catal._n tom._n 1._o baron_fw-fr annal._n tom._n 1._o a_o 66._o hier._n ep_n 28._o ad_fw-la lucin._n tom._n 1._o hier._n ep_n 4._o ad_fw-la rustic_n tom._n 1._o daemonum_n contra_fw-la se_fw-la pugnantium_fw-la pâ—rtenta_fw-la coâ—fingunt_fw-la coâ—fingunt_fw-la ruffin_n in_o expos_n symbol_n &_o light_v de_fw-fr adult_n script_n origen_n origen_n hier._n ep_n 65._o tom._n 2._o &_o apol._n 2._o contr_n ruff._n ruff._n cyril_n ep_n ad_fw-la ich._n antioch_n in_o act._n conc._n eph._n eph._n in_o praefat._n in_o tom._n 1._o council_n gen._n epiphanius_n in_o anchor_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hier._n ep_n 5._o ad_fw-la flor._n &_o ep_n 41._o ad_fw-la ruffin_n ruffin_n aug._n ep_n ad_fw-la hier._n quae_fw-la est_fw-la inter_fw-la ep_n hier._n 93._o &_o iterum_fw-la ep_n 97._o 97._o gennald_n in_o catal._n inter_fw-la open_fw-mi hier._n hier._n hier._n ep_n 62._o ad_fw-la theoph._n alex_n &_o lib._n 2._o apol._n contra_fw-la ruffin_n hier._n ep_n 75._o id._n praefat_fw-la in_o lib._n euseb_n de_fw-fr loc_fw-fr hebr._n tom._n 4._o open_a amb._n p._n 211._o lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr abra._n in_o marg_n annot_n annot_n lud._n vives_n in_o lib._n 21._o de_fw-la civ_o dei_fw-la c._n 24._o in_o antiquis_fw-la libris_fw-la brug_n &_o colon._n non_fw-fr le_fw-fr guntur_fw-la isti_fw-la decem_fw-la aut_fw-la duodecim_fw-la qui_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la versus_fw-la versus_fw-la holstein_n open_fw-mi limb_n praef_n tom_fw-mi open_fw-mi athan._n neque_fw-la solius_fw-la athanasti_fw-la ea_fw-la fortuna_fw-la ut_fw-la ineptissimorum_fw-la interpolatorum_fw-la manus_fw-la subiret_fw-la cum_fw-la chrysostomi_n procli_n aliorumque_fw-la homilias_fw-la similibus_fw-la sequiorum_fw-la saeculorum_fw-la ineptiis_fw-la faedatas_fw-la in_fw-la iisdem_fw-la regiis_fw-la codicibus_fw-la invenerim_fw-la andr._n masius_n praef._n in_o litur_fw-la syr._n cassand_n 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