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A69143 Miscellania or a treatise Contayning two hundred controuersiall animaduersions, conducing to the study of English controuersies in fayth, and religion. VVritten by N.N.P. and dedicated to the yonger sort of Catholike priests, and other students in the English seminaries beyond the seas. With a pareneticall conclusion vnto the said men. Anderton, Lawrence, attributed name. 1640 (1640) STC 576; ESTC S115142 202,826 416

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