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A66526 VindiciƦ vindiciarum, or, A vindication of a late treatise, entituled, Infant-baptism asserted and vindicated by Scripture and antiquity in answer to Mr. Hen. D'Anvers his reply : to which is annexed, the Right Reverend Dr. Barlow (now Bishop-elect of Lincoln) his apologetical-letter : also An appeal to the Baptists (so called) against Mr. Danvers, for his strange forgeries, and misrepresentations of divers councils and authors, both antient and modern / by Obed Wills. Wills, Obed.; Barlow, Thomas, 1607-1691. Appeal to the Baptists against Henry D'Anvers, Esq. 1675 (1675) Wing W2868; ESTC R38662 92,093 163

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baptize_v it_o be_v not_o material_a since_o he_o own_v their_o baptism_n in_o some_o case_n which_o be_v sufficient_a if_o we_o have_v no_o more_o to_o overthrow_v mr._n danvers_n position_n that_o the_o baptism_n of_o adult_n person_n be_v the_o only_a baptism_n own_v in_o this_o age_n and_o it_o be_v excentrical_a to_o the_o question_n to_o talk_v of_o the_o consideration_n on_o which_o they_o be_v baptize_v but_o to_o give_v mr._n d'anvers_n full_a measure_n press_v down_o and_o run_v over_o we_o shall_v acquaint_v he_o with_o some_o other_o place_n of_o nazianzen_n where_o he_o be_v for_o the_o baptise_v child_n absolute_o without_o respect_n to_o die_a state_n and_o that_o be_v in_o his_o four_o oration_n p._n 648._o edit_fw-la lutetiae_n par._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1._o it_o belong_v to_o all_o degree_n of_o age_n to_o all_o kind_n and_o manner_n of_o life_n wherefore_o it_o shall_v be_v carry_v through_o all_o be_v thou_o a_o youngman_n then_o it_o be_v of_o use_n against_o the_o turbulent_a motion_n of_o the_o soul_n so_o he_o speak_v of_o its_o conveniency_n for_o old_a age._n then_o he_o come_v to_o infant_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n have_v thou_o a_o infant_n let_v he_o be_v sanctify_v baptize_v from_o his_o infancy_n let_v he_o be_v dedicate_v to_o the_o spirit_n lest_o wickedness_n shall_v take_v occasion_n etc._n etc._n and_o then_o he_o conclude_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v thou_o afraid_a of_o the_o seal_n mr._n d'anvers_n will_v not_o have_v baptism_n to_o be_v a_o seal_n because_o of_o the_o tenderness_n of_o his_o nature_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thou_o be_v a_o pusillanimous_a mother_n and_o of_o a_o weak_a faith_n as_o for_o that_o jeer_n with_o which_o he_o conclude_v that_o we_o may_v as_o well_o bring_v protogenes_n for_o a_o authority_n that_o pretend_v to_o baptise_v child_n in_o this_o age_n to_o cure_v disease_n as_o gregory_n nazianzen_n to_o save_v their_o soul_n i_o shall_v retort_v what_o i_o find_v in_o his_o friend_n haggar_n in_o his_o book_n call_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o font_n discover_v pag._n 94._o where_o he_o thus_o speak_v i_o can_v bold_o say_v with_o a_o good_a conscience_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n to_o his_o glory_n i_o have_v know_v many_o weak_a and_o sickly_a before_o that_o have_v recover_v health_n and_o strength_n afterward_o that_o be_v after_o be_v dip_v and_o some_o immediate_o in_o a_o few_o day_n yea_o and_o that_o when_o they_o have_v be_v so_o ill_o that_o all_o doctor_n have_v give_v they_o over_o a_o good_a encouragement_n to_o proselyte_n credulous_a soul_n to_o their_o way_n and_o to_o augment_v their_o church_n apace_o for_o if_o dip_v prove_v usual_o so_o medicinal_a and_o successful_a even_o in_o desperate_a case_n it_o will_v undoubted_o impair_v if_o not_o render_v altogether_o useless_a the_o practice_n of_o physic_n but_o whether_o this_o story_n of_o haggar_n be_v not_o as_o fabulous_a as_o that_o of_o protogenes_n i_o leave_v to_o the_o reader_n to_o judge_v 2._o mr._n danvers_n in_o the_o next_o place_n come_v to_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o three_o council_n to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v the_o universal_a practice_n of_o this_o age_n to_o baptise_v upon_o the_o profession_n of_o faith_n to_o which_o i_o give_v this_o answer_n one_a that_o we_o have_v ten-times_o three_o for_o infants-baptism_n and_o if_o we_o must_v go_v by_o number_n of_o council_n we_o shall_v carry_v it_o 2._o i_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o 3_o council_n which_o he_o mention_n for_o adult_n baptism_n have_v respect_n only_o to_o pagan_n to_o which_o he_o give_v this_o answer_n it_o be_v grant_v i_o think_v as_o i_o have_v make_v it_o ready_a to_o his_o hand_n he_o may_v quote_v the_o canon_n of_o thirty_o council_n for_o infants-baptism_n in_o the_o follow_a age_n and_o a_o stout_a argument_n no_o doubt_n for_o it_o but_o what_o be_v such_o decree_n say_v he_o to_o this_o four_o century_n which_o be_v for_o believers-baptism_n 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it_o and_o he_o not_o one_o against_o it_o but_o he_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o we_o to_o produce_v one_o for_o infants-baptism_n till_o after_o the_o four_o century_n but_o 4thly_a mr._n danvers_n have_v forget_v himself_o for_o we_o have_v a_o african_a council_n about_o a_o age_n before_o his_o three_o council_n consist_v of_o 66_o bishop_n where_o cyprian_n be_v present_a that_o flourish_v in_o the_o year_n 250_o who_o determine_v that_o child_n may_v &_o aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v before_o the_o eight_o day_n cent._n 3._o cap._n 9_o p._n 205._o synodus_fw-la africana_fw-la de_fw-la infantibus_fw-la baptizandis_fw-la and_o to_o which_o synod_n jerom_n refer_v for_o the_o antiquity_n of_o infants-baptism_n mention_v cyprian_n epistle_n to_o fidus_n as_o the_o magdiburgs_n have_v it_o cent._n 4._o c._n 5._o p._n 239._o nor_o be_v that_o to_o be_v slight_v which_o austin_n speak_v concern_v this_o synod_n cyprianus_n non_fw-la novum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la decretum_fw-la condens_fw-la sed_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la fidem_fw-la firmissimam_fw-la servans_fw-la etc._n etc._n cyprian_n be_v not_o devise_v any_o new_a decree_n but_o follow_v the_o most_o sure_a faith_n of_o the_o church_n aug._n epist._n 28._o ad_fw-la hieronimum_fw-la but_o if_o infant-baptism_n be_v own_v in_o the_o four_o century_n why_o be_v it_o not_o mention_v in_o any_o of_o those_o three_o eminent_a council_n which_o be_v then_o hold_v the_o carthaginian_a the_o laodicean_n and_o neocesarean_a they_o speak_v not_o a_o word_n of_o it_o but_o positive_o decree_v that_o teach_v confession_n faith_n and_o free_a choice_n aught_o to_o precede_v baptism_n i_o answer_v that_o as_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o almost_o all_o the_o canon_n of_o those_o council_n be_v take_v up_o about_o discipline_n and_o have_v hardly_o any_o thing_n of_o doctrine_n in_o they_o so_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o council_n do_v not_o mention_v all_o thing_n controvert_v in_o one_o age_n but_o rather_o be_v concern_v in_o resolve_v the_o doubt_n which_o trouble_v the_o church_n when_o such_o council_n be_v convene_v since_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o canon_n in_o those_o three_o council_n before-specified_n for_o infants-baptism_n it_o may_v well_o be_v think_v the_o reason_n be_v because_o in_o those_o day_n none_o do_v scruple_n it_o which_o we_o may_v the_o rather_o believe_v because_o it_o be_v in_o practice_n before_o those_o council_n and_o in_o the_o same_o century_n also_o as_o be_v before_o full_o show_v but_o since_o mr._n danvers_n glory_v so_o much_o in_o these_o council_n and_o prefer_v they_o before_o all_o those_o many_a one_o that_o follow_v after_o it_o will_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o examine_v what_o they_o be_v that_o he_o stand_v so_o much_o upon_o for_o certain_o if_o we_o must_v give_v they_o the_o pre-eminence_n it_o must_v be_v upon_o account_n of_o their_o purity_n whereas_o true_o we_o shall_v find_v if_o they_o be_v not_o altogether_o as_o corrupt_v as_o those_o that_o follow_v yet_o certain_o in_o some_o thing_n as_o gross_a for_o error_n and_o superstition_n as_o the_o popish_a council_n themselves_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n which_o 873._o be_v that_o mr._n danvers_n intend_v and_o it_o be_v the_o 85th_o article_n those_o who_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v must_v give_v in_o their_o name_n and_o abstain_v for_o a_o long_a time_n from_o wine_n and_o flesh_n and_o after_o often_o examination_n may_v receive_v baptism_n the_o 7_o and_o 90_o canon_n ow_v exorcism_n or_o conjure_v out_o the_o devil_n though_o if_o mr._n danvers_n be_v to_o be_v believe_v exorcism_n be_v add_v to_o the_o former_a filthy_a custom_n in_o the_o 9_o cent._n as_o he_o tell_v we_o in_o his_o 2d_o ed._n p._n 11_o 7._o the_o 74_o 75_o 76_o canon_n be_v for_o penance_n also_o the_o 76_o canon_n be_v for_o pour_v in_o the_o eucharist_n into_o man_n
his_o people_n the_o child_n be_v take_v into_o covenant_n with_o the_o father_n as_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v first_o teach_v and_o then_o they_o and_o their_o infant_n be_v confederates_n be_v circumcise_v so_o say_v our_o saviour_n go_v disciple_v the_o nation_n and_o baptize_v they_o paraeus_n upon_o matth._n 3._o 7._o have_v those_o word_n ad_fw-la eos_fw-la infant_n etiam_fw-la pertinet_fw-la universale_fw-la christi_fw-la mandatum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nec_fw-la obstat_fw-la quod_fw-la infant_n doceri_fw-la nondum_fw-la possunt_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d enim_fw-la christo_fw-la proprie_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la docere_fw-la ut_fw-la vulgo_fw-la redditur_fw-la sed_fw-la discipulos_fw-la facere_fw-la sicut_fw-la exponitur_fw-la joh._n 4._o 1._o in_o christi_fw-la enim_fw-la mandato_fw-la doctrina_fw-la etiam_fw-la sequitur_fw-la baptismum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d facite_fw-la discipulos_fw-la baptizando_fw-la et_fw-la docendo_fw-la etc._n etc._n non_fw-la quod_fw-la doctrina_fw-la non_fw-la debeat_fw-la praecedere_fw-la baptismum_fw-la in_o adultis_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la debeat_fw-la etiam_fw-la sequi_fw-la in_o infantibus_fw-la baptizatis_fw-la 1._o the_o general_a command_n of_o christ_n go_v disciple_n all_o nation_n appertain_v to_o infant_n neither_o do_v it_o hinder_v because_o infant_n can_v not_o be_v teach_v for_o the_o greek_a word_n do_v not_o proper_o signify_v to_o teach_v as_o it_o be_v common_o render_v but_o make_v disciple_n as_o it_o be_v expound_v joh._n 4._o 1._o according_a to_o christ_n command_n teach_v do_v follow_v baptism_n for_o it_o be_v baptise_v they_o and_o then_o teach_v they_o to_o observe_v make_v disciple_n by_o baptise_v and_o teach_v &c._n &c._n not_o that_o teach_v ought_v not_o to_o go_v before_o baptise_v in_o the_o adult_n but_o that_o it_o ought_v also_o to_o follow_v in_o baptize_v infant_n spanhemius_fw-la in_o his_o dubia_fw-la evangelica_n tell_v we_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o we_o render_v teach_v signify_v to_o make_v disciple_n which_o be_v do_v say_v he_o by_o baptise_v and_o teach_v and_o he_o give_v this_o reason_n for_o this_o his_o analysis_n because_o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v signify_v only_o to_o teach_v there_o will_v be_v find_v a_o tautology_n in_o christ_n word_n thus_o go_v teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o teach_v they_o the_o sense_n therefore_o say_v he_o of_o christ_n word_n be_v this_o go_v you_o make_v disciple_n to_o i_o out_o of_o all_o nation_n by_o baptise_v and_o teach_v and_o the_o former_a way_n of_o make_v disciple_n infantibus_fw-la etiam_fw-la aptari_fw-la poterat_fw-la may_v be_v apply_v to_o infant_n 4_o i_o think_v i_o can_v bring_v some_o score_n that_o understand_v the_o commission_n in_o this_o sense_n and_o therefore_o argue_v against_o the_o anabaptist_n thus_o the_o gospel_n be_v to_o be_v preach_v to_o every_o creature_n all_o nation_n must_v be_v disciple_v but_o infant_n be_v a_o part_n of_o this_o creation_n be_v include_v in_o all_o nation_n therefore_o they_o must_v be_v make_v disciple_n also_o for_o they_o in_o the_o commission_n must_v refer_v to_o nation_n or_o else_o it_o relate_v to_o nothing_o for_o it_o have_v no_o relative_a beside_o to_o answer_v to_o and_o therefore_o infant_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o nation_n where_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v must_v be_v baptize_v thus_o we_o see_v hitherto_o mr._n danvers_n can_v discharge_v himself_o of_o the_o charge_n of_o prevarication_n and_o pervert_v the_o authority_n produce_v by_o he_o but_o like_o a_o discontent_a man_n be_v angry_a with_o every_o body_n he_o meet_v with_o that_o cross_v his_o humour_n and_o therefore_o fall_v a_o skirmish_v with_o the_o lutheran_n calvin_n baxter_n and_o conclude_v bitter_o against_o i_o with_o a_o appeal_n to_o the_o reader_n whether_o it_o can_v be_v suppose_v i_o do_v read_v his_o book_n and_o answer_v it_o with_o consideration_n and_o so_o whether_o i_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v esteem_v a_o person_n extreme_o void_a of_o reason_n and_o conscience_n and_o let_v the_o reader_n likewise_o judge_v whether_o this_o be_v suitable_a to_o the_o title_n of_o his_o book_n a_o sober_a reply_n to_o mr._n will_n against_o who_o i_o may_v right_o object_v that_o of_o ambrose_n on_o the_o 119_o psal._n quem_fw-la veritate_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la lacerate_v convitiis_fw-la second_o concern_v the_o falsehood_n chargedu_fw-fr upon_o mr._n danvers_n which_o be_v full_o prove_v in_o what_o follow_v page_n 30._o after_o some_o scornful_a jeer_n which_o he_o be_v please_v to_o cast_v upon_o i_o as_o that_o i_o profess_v myself_o a_o solid_a grave_a person_n a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n a_o master_n of_o art_n and_o a_o learned_a man_n and_o one_o that_o have_v spend_v much_o time_n in_o the_o university_n which_o be_v more_o than_o ever_o i_o profess_v or_o pretend_v to_o he_o think_v it_o not_o enough_o to_o render_v i_o 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8._o wherefore_o i_o desire_v he_o to_o search_v his_o own_o heart_n whether_o the_o malignity_n be_v not_o there_o and_o so_o i_o shall_v leave_v he_o to_o our_o great_a master_n who_o prerogative_n it_o be_v to_o judge_v and_o who_o i_o hope_v may_v in_o time_n convince_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d judas_n 15._o of_o all_o his_o virulent_a speech_n mr._n danvers_n have_v thus_o discharge_v his_o stomach_n offer_v to_o join_v issue_n with_o i_o in_o order_n to_o the_o speedy_a trial_n at_o who_o door_n the_o falsehood_n lie_v he_o have_v make_v a_o good_a beginning_n have_v he_o not_o and_o it_o be_v very_o like_a we_o shall_v have_v as_o good_a a_o end_n 1._o first_o i_o charge_v he_o with_o falsehood_n for_o say_v the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o the_o first_o century_n the_o apostle_n baptise_a only_o the_o age_a i_o tell_v he_o the_o falsehood_n lie_v in_o this_o because_o he_o add_v the_o word_n only_o which_o be_v not_o speak_v by_o they_o and_o how_o do_v he_o 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i_o must_v tell_v mr._n danvers_n that_o they_o do_v not_o say_v that_o they_o find_v they_o only_a baptise_a the_o adult_n this_o be_v all_o they_o say_v baptizatos_fw-la esse_fw-la adultos_fw-la exempla_fw-la probant_fw-la de_fw-la infantibus_fw-la baptizatis_fw-la exempla_fw-la quidem_fw-la annotata_fw-la non_fw-la leguntur_fw-la example_n prove_v that_o the_o adult_n be_v baptise_a and_o as_o for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n we_o read_v not_o any_o example_n upon_o record_n now_o for_o to_o say_v that_o the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o they_o find_v they_o baptise_a only_a the_o adult_n be_v as_o he_o bring_v it_o in_o a_o subtle_a insinuation_n to_o deceive_v the_o reader_n for_o the_o word_n be_v place_v in_o that_o order_n by_o themselves_o do_v import_n as_o if_o the_o magdeburg_n do_v not_o look_v upon_o infants-baptism_n as_o apostolical_a or_o that_o any_o such_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n whereas_o their_o very_a next_o word_n
ad_fw-la quintum_fw-la &_o sextum_fw-la that_o be_v to_o beringarius_n his_o 5_o and_o 6_o argument_n against_o transubstantiation_n not_o against_o infant-baptism_n launifrank_a answer_n opposuit_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la perpetuam_fw-la &_o consentientem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dei_fw-la so_o that_o this_o authority_n be_v quite_o cashier_v and_o mr._n danvers_n must_v have_v a_o unparalleled_a confidence_n to_o attempt_v the_o retrieve_v he_o the_o next_o be_v cassander_n out_o of_o guitmundus_n who_o say_v that_o with_o the_o real_a presence_n he_o deny_v baptism_n to_o little-ones_a though_o the_o latter_a not_o so_o public_o as_o the_o former_a but_o guitmund_n and_o cassander_n say_v quem_fw-la tamen_fw-la errorem_fw-la in_o publicum_fw-la non_fw-la produxit_fw-la that_o be_v he_o never_o public_o deny_v infant-baptism_n mr._n d._n translate_v it_o not_o so_o public_o because_o else_o it_o may_v be_v present_o query_v how_o then_o can_v guitmund_n tell_v and_o rather_o than_o lay_v such_o a_o stumbling-block_n in_o the_o way_n he_o think_v it_o expedient_a to_o make_v bold_a with_o his_o author_n and_o abuse_v they_o than_o by_o tell_v truth_n undeceive_v his_o reader_n this_o may_v be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n but_o to_o give_v mr._n d._n full_a satisfaction_n i_o shall_v make_v a_o more_o particular_a inquiry_n into_o this_o business_n and_o as_o for_o guitmundus_n the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o ait_fw-fr eum_fw-la beringarium_fw-la de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la infan_n &_o de_fw-la conjugio_fw-la non_fw-la recte_fw-la docuisse_fw-la which_o prove_v he_o as_o much_o against_o marriage_n as_o against_o infant-baptism_n but_o bp._n usher_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o book_n the_o successione_n cap._n 7._o §_o 37._o that_o deoduinas_n leodiensis_n take_v it_o upon_o common_a fame_n that_o bruno_n and_o beringarius_n do_v quantum_fw-la in_o ipsis_fw-la erat_fw-la baptismum_fw-la parvulorum_fw-la evertere_fw-la and_o add_v deinde_fw-la ex_fw-la leodiensis_fw-la fide_fw-la 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baptism_n after_o faith_n 2._o edit_fw-la pag._n 73._o and_o in_o his_o reply_n pag._n 116._o he_o quote_v his_o preface_n to_o his_o history_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o archbishop_n of_o trier_n do_v persecute_v the_o beringarian_o for_o deny_v infant-baptism_n it_o be_v true_a he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o archbishop_n do_v eos_fw-la diocesi_fw-la sua_fw-la expellere_fw-la because_o illius_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la populis_fw-la disseminarent_fw-la but_o that_o thuanus_n shall_v say_v he_o do_v it_o because_o they_o deny_v infant-baptism_n be_v one_o of_o mr._n danvers_n mistake_n there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o syllable_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n in_o that_o preface_n or_o in_o the_o whole_a history_n that_o i_o can_v find_v his_o last_o evidence_n to_o prove_v it_o be_v a_o council_n call_v by_o h._n 1._o of_o france_n to_o suppress_v the_o heresy_n of_o bruno_n and_o beringarius_n for_o deny_v transubstantiation_n and_o infant-baptism_n for_o which_o he_o quote_v bibliotheca_fw-la 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