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A53499 An answer to the challenge of Mr. Henry Jennings (Protestant Arch-Deacon of Dromore) which evidently makes-out the present Church of Romes doctrine to have been maintain'd in the first five ages, & the adversarys principles to be only a heap of heresies lawfully condemn'd by the primitive Church. To which is annexed An answer to one Whealy. Set forth by James O Shiell reader of Divinity. O'Sheill, James. 1699 (1699) Wing O530A; ESTC R214539 82,791 345

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the arke was a preparīg M●lachi c. 3 v. 3 and he shall sit is a refiner and a puri●●er of silver and ●e shall purifie the sons of Levi and ●urge them as gold and silver that they may offer unto the Lord an offerīg in righteousnesse Which text signifies the punishment of Purgatory as the following Fathers do testifies Origines hom 6. in Exod. S. Ambrose in his commentary on the 36. psal St Hier●me in the exposition of this text and St. Augustin in his 20th book of the city of God c. 25. we find in the 2 book of Machabees c. 12. v. ●3 that Judas Machabeus had sent to Jerusalem twelve thousand peeces of silver to be offer'd for the souls of his souldi●rs here are the very words of the scripture and making a ●athering he sent twelve thousand dracmes of f●●ver to ●erusalem for sacr●fice to be offer'd for ●●nne well and religiously thinking of the Resurection for unless he ●●p'd that they that were slai●e should raise againe it should seem superflous and vain●●● prayfor the dead and because he con●ider'd tha● they which had taken their sleep with Godliness had very Good grace lay'd up for them It is therefore a holy and healthfull cogita●ion to pray for the dead that t●ey may ●e loose from sinnes perhaps you may Answer saying that this book is not the word of God or canonical and consequently that it's Authority is of no force but in case it wou'd not be canonical it self it ought to be sooner belier'd then either Calvin or Luthers ●nd consequently prefer'd before their Authorityes being Ju●as was always esteem'd to have ●een a most faithfull servant to God Almighty and then has ●een a high Priest of the true Church Moreover ti 's false that this book is not Canonical for Tradition and the Authority of the holy Catholick Church which is all the testimony we can produce to prove that any book of the whole Bible is canonical or the true word of God expressly affirms that this book is Canonical and cons●quently the word of God as may ●e seen in Innocēt the first 's letter to Exuperius in St Cyprian's first book c. 3. in his book de Ex●or●atio● Martyry c. 11. in St. Gregorie Nazianzens Oration de Machabaeis in St Ambrose's 2. book de Jacob c 10. 11. 12. in St. Augustīs 2. book against Gaudent●us Epistles c. 23 in his 2 book de Doc. Christ c. 8. in his 18. book of the City of God c. 36. and also in the 47 Chap. of the 3. Council of Carthage celebrated the year 397 whose very words are these Item placuit ut praeter scripturas Canonicas nihil in Ecclesia legatur sub nomine divinarum scripturarum Sunt autem canonicae Scripturae Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numeri Deuteronomium Jesus nave Judicum Ruth Reg●um libriquatuor Paralip●menon libri duo Job psalterium Davidicum Salomonis libri quinque libri duodecim Prophetarum Isaias Jeremia Ezechiel Daniel Tobias Judith Ester Esdrae libri duo Machaba●rum libri duo Novi autem Testamenti Evangeliorum libri quatuor Actuum Apostolorum liber vnus Pauli Apostoli Epistolae tredecim ejusd●m ad Hebraeos una Petri Apostoli duae Joānis Apostoli tres Judae Apostoli una et Jacobi una Apocalipsis Joannis ●iber unus Whereby the reader may plainly see that my adversary can have no kind of tolerable reason to reject the books of M●chabees more than any other book of the whole Bible Now let us heare those texts of the new Testament which speaks of Purgatory Mat. c 5. v. 2● But I say unto you that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of judgment whosoever shall say to his brother Racha shall be in dāger of Coūcil but whosoever shall say thou fool shall be in danger of hell fire Which text expressly declares the soul to be punish'd after leavīg this world for three several sinnes and that only for the last of them he shall suffer Eternal fire so that I m●y lawfully infer that there must be some other place wherin the souls are punish'd for the two other sinnes but that other place cannot be heaven as is evident neither is it hell as the text makes-out therefore it must be that place of te●poral Punishment which the holy Catholick Church commonly call's Purgatory Which may be confirm'd by the 2● ●6 v. of the same Chap. where we read thus agree with your adversar● quickly whil●s you are in the way with him lest the adversary would deliver thee to the judge the judge deliver thee to the officer thou be cast in pr●son ver●ly I say unto thee thou shal● by n● means come ou● thence till thou hast payed the uttermost farthing Whereby the reader may see that the word of God confirms the prem●sses by bidding us to make penance in this world lest we shu'd be sent to that prison out of which ●● cannot go till we pay the last farthing that is to sa● untill our souls will be purifi'd from all manner of ●innes as the following Fathers do expressly declare ●ertullian in his book de Anima c 17. S. Cyprian in his 4th book Epist 2 Origines hom 35 in Luca● Eusebius Emi●senus hom● de ●piph●ia St Ambrose expoundīg the 12. c of Luke St. Hierome on thee aforesaid text where he sayes the following words this is what St. Matthew declares you shall not go out of the prison till also the small sin● be punish'd Matt. c. 12 v. 32. and whosoever speake●h a word against the son of ma● i● shall be forgiven him but whosoever speaketh against the holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven him neither in this world nei●her●n the world to come Which words S Matthew wou'd ●ot have said If he ha● not suppos'd that some si●● will be fo●given in the world to come We fi●d also the following words in St. Pauls first Epist to the Corinthians c 3 v. 15. ●f any man● w●r●e shall be burnt he shall suffer cosse but hi●self shall be sav'd yet so as by fire By which words S. Paul clearly firms that some souls after leaving this world shall be purg●d and purifi'd by a temporal fire as the following Fathers do testifie St. Ambrose in his co●mentary on this text in his 20. ser on the ●18 psal S● Hierome on the 4. Chap. of Amos St. Augustin on the 37. Psal S Gregorie in his 4. book of Dialogues c. 39. Now let us beare the holy Fathers very words S. Denis who has been St. Paul's Disciple in his book de Ecc●es Hier c. 7. sayes thus Then the Venerable Bishops do draw near and perform the ho●y prayers over the dead beseech●ng the divine clemency to forgive the dead all the sinnes which he commit●d by his human weaknesse and to place h●● in light and in the region of the living Ter●ullian who liv'd in the year 230. in his book de Monogamia bids ac●rtain wom●n
plainly giveing the lye not only to the Angel Gabriel who d●clar'd that ● of Christs Kingdo● which is his Church ther shou●● be no end Luke chap. the 1. v. ● but also to Christ himself who expressly promis'd that the Gates of Hell shou'd not prevaile agaīst his Church Math. chap. the 16. v. 18. and that he wou'd be with his disciples in the administration of their function even to the end of the world Math. chap 28. v. the 20. For a further confirmation of this point it is evident that no Church or society of Christians can shew their lineal and lawfull succession of pastors and Bishops ever since the Apostles time but the present Church of Rome and such as are in communion with her for those that now stile themselves the Church of England cannot for their lives shew any before Cranmer in Edward the fixth time as appears by Goodman the Protestant Bishop of Hereford in his Catalogue of all the Bishops of England since the first plātatiō of Christiā religion amōgst them where he expressly names Thomas Cranmer to be the first protestant Bishop tha● was ever seen in England Upon the whole matter since none but the presēt Romā Catholik Church can pretend to have had since the Apostles time a continued series of Bishops with whom all their cōtemporaryes of the orthodox part of Christians alwayes agreed in one faith and comunion it plainly follows that she alone can pretend to the purity of the Christian faith And therefore whosoever desires to find and embrace a Church wherein the old incorrupted principles of Chrstianity are taught and such principles only as were maintain d by the Ancient and pure Church of Rome for upwards of 300. years after Christ let him embrace the present Church of Rome wherein the said principles are duely profess'd as I shall manifestly prove in my Answer to the aforsaid points for being the ancient Father St. Basile in his 63. Epistle declares unto us That we ought not to pase ●●er calumnyes not out of revenge but lest we shu'd seem to give way to a lyeor suffer men seduc'd to be further decev'd I shall therefore answer my Adversary a challēge in the same order that he has laid ●● chap. 1. Proving both publick and priva●● Masses to have been celeb●cated in the premitive Church This Challenger seens to lav his main stress upon the word privat Masse but what he means by it he does not explain t is certain that altho' Masses were said privately in all age especially during the persecution of the Heathens when Christians perform'd their Devotions in caves and vaults under ground yet the word privat masse was seldom us'd by Catholick writers either before or since the year 600. until Martin Luther by his book de-Missa privata oblig'd Catholick Divines to write upon that subject and confute to the full Luthers arguments against it but why is the question rais'd about private masse does my adversary own that publick Masses were in use in the primitive church If so he must either quitt the old as well as the present Church of Rome or condemn his own Church of England which declares against all masses both privat publick and indeed whosoever admits one can have no tolerable reason to deny the other contrary to the practice of so many ages But let him deny or own what he pleases t is evident to us by the undeniable testimonyes of several Fathers and Councils more ancient than the year 600 that both publick and privat masses were then in use in the Catholick Church and offer'd to the Almighty both for the living and the dead as occasion requir'd St. James the Apostle speaking to Almighty God in his liturgy sayes we offer unto thee an unbloody sacrifice for our sins and for the ignorance of the people And St. Andrew likewise said as the Priests and Deacons of Achia in the book they writt of this Apostles passion I sacrifice daily unto Almighty God an immaculate lamb who when he is truely sacrific'd and his flesh truely eaten remains still wholy and alive St. Ireneus who liv'd the year 180 in his 4. book against heresies c 32 after speaking of the sacrifices which were offer'd in the old law sayes that our Lord taught the Apostles to offer anew sacrifice which the Church afterwards beīg taught by the Apostles offer'd through the universal world St. Cyprian who liv'd the year 250. prohibit'd to offer any sacrifice for the soul of Gemininus Faustus because he did not observe the decree of his own antecessors the Bishops Cornelius Bishop of Rome who liv'd about the year 254. complains that the persecution was so great in his own time that they could not say masses either in publick Churches or in Caves under ground which Authority may be seen Tomo 1. Biblia Sanctorum Patrum Tertuiliam who liv'd in the same century sayes in his book decorona mi●it s c. ● that masse● were then offer ● so the souls of the dead and Fusebius Cesariensis who liv'd the year 326 relates in his 4. book c 4● that there were masses said for the soul of Constant the Great St Cyri●l of Jerusalem who liv'd in the same century Catech 5. sayes thus we belive that the holy and dreadfull sacrifice which is offer'd upon the altar is agreat relief to those for whom its offer'd so Zomenus relates in his 7. book c. 5. that St. Gregory Nazianzen said Masse in a privat chappel and Paulinus writing the life of St. Ambrose affirms that St. Ambrose said Masse in a certaī Gentel somans house St. Ambrose himself in his commentary on the 38 Psal ● bids the Priests to offer this holy sacrifice for others The●d●●et who liv'd the year 4●0 in his History c 20. declare● himself to have said masse in a Hermits cell and St Gregorie in his 37. Homily affirms that the holy Bish●p Cassins was wont to say masse in his oratory being hinder'd from going to the church by reason of his infirmity St. Hierome who liv'd the year 390. in his Commentary on the ● chap of the proverbs sayes the following words It s to be Observ'd that altho' there is no hopes of pardon for the wicked after their death yet there are those who dye with small sins and after their death can be discharg'd either by chastifing them with punishments or by their friends pray●rs alms and celebration of masses In his commentary on St. Pauls Epist to Titus he sayes thus If the Laity are commanded to abstaine from their wives in the time of communion what is to be suppos'd of the Bishop who daily for his own and the peoples sins offers to God the underfiled sacrifice he hath such an other Authority in his first book against Jovinian c. 19. speaking of the priests St. Chrisostome who liv'd in the later end of the 4. century in his homily on St. Pauls Epist to the Philippians speaking of those who dye in the fear of God
peoples owne Devotion but in the time of the aforesaid solemnityes specifi'd by the council of Agatho all which may be confirm'd by St. Chrysostomes words who in his 3. Homily on Saint Pauls Epistle to the Ephesians complains that then the people were so undevout that tho' there was Masse daily celebrat'd yet none of them Communicated There are several other Authorityes that might be produc'd for the further proof of this point but to avoide tediousnesse J will conclude with the following passage 'T is not pertinent to the Essence of a Sacrifice the standers by or those for whom 't is offer'd to be partakers of it but Masse is a Sacrifice therefore 't is not pertinent to the essence of Masse the standers by or those for whom it 's offer'd to be partakers of it The major is evident out of the 6. 7. chap. of Leviticus where we read that the Priests of the old law were commanded to offer Sacrïfices that the standers by or any of those for whom they were offer'd did not take the least particle of them the minor also is evident out of the 9 th● canon of the Apostles and out of the 24 chap of the 3 Council of Cartage who sate in the year 397 and declar'd masse to be a lawfull sacrifice as for the consequence t is undenyable being the argument is in forme Chap. 2 Prov●ng that the Communio● was admīnistred under one kind in th● Primitive Church The Authorityes which my adversary defies to be produc'd doe clearly make-out the ancient pratice of Receiving the Communion under one sole species in the Primitive Church therefore this doctrine was not first brought in by the present Chuch of Rome either in the 6 7 8 or 9 age the consequens is manifest as will appear hereafter As for the anticedent it may be prov'd by the example of Christ himself● Luck c. 24 v 30. 35 where we read the following words It came to passe as he sate at me●t with them he tooke bread bless'd i● b●ake gave to them And they told wha● things were done in the way how he wa● know●n by them in breakīg of bread But there is no mention made of the cup no not in the whole Chapter St. Hierome in Paula's epitaph St. Augustin in his 3 book d● consensu Evangelistarum c 23 venerable Bede Thèophilactus and several others in the commentary of this chapter do● plainly affirm● that our saviou● gave then the blessed sacremen● to those two disciples moreove● we read in the acts of the Apostles c 2 v 42 that the beliver● Continued stedfastly in the Apostle● Doctrine and fellowship in breakin● of bread and in prayers but w● see no kind of mention made o● the cup but rather a confirmation of the contrary as is manifest b● the 46 verse of the same Chapter wherefore I may lawfully īfe● that our Saviour Jesus Christ did not oblige all the belivers to Communicate in both species otherwise certainly himself wou'd not be the first transgressor of his own law neither wou'd he promise everlasting life to those who wou'd receive the communion under the forme of bread as he did John c. 6 v 51 saying thus I am the living bread which came down from heaven if any man eat of this bread he shall live for ever where by we see plainly that everlasting life is promis'd to us for eating worthily that heavenly bread Now let us see did those of the primitive Church ever practice to give the communion in one sole species to prove which will produce the Authoritye and examples of those Father● who then liv'd Tertulian wh● Liv'd th● year 230 in is bo●● of Oration c. 14 and in his book ad Uxorem c. 5. gives ●● understand that it was then custom to carry the Euchar● home for private Communi●● St. Ambrose who liv'd in the Century relates in his Oration ●● Obitu Satyri that then the peop●● were wont to keep the Euchar● about them and that his o●● brother Satyras once in a shi●●●rak was miraculously Sa●● from being drown'd by the v●tue of the blessed Euchar● which was ty'd about his ne●● St. Basil who liv'd in the same Century expressly affirms in his Epist to Caesaria Patricia that it was a common practice to bring the Eucharist home to their houses and to receive it when they pleas'd which is a manifest sign that then the people did not alwayes receive the Communion in both species for those who tooke it under the forme of wine receiv'd it in the Church from the Priests or Deacons as St. Cyprian relates in his ser De lapsis and those who pleas'd to bring it home under the forme of bread for privat Communion were not hinder'd until by reason of several abuses which happen'd the Father of the Council of Caesaragust who sate the year 382 Can 3 prohibit'd it St. Denis who liv'd in the 2 〈…〉 in his book de Eceles 〈…〉 Chap affir●s that it was 〈…〉 custom to give the Communion to the children under the 〈◊〉 of wine and St. Cyprian who liv'd the year 250 in his sermon Delapsis makes mention of acertain child who receiv'd the Communion under the forme of wine and also of three more who receiv'd it under one sole species St. Denis of Alexandria who has been St. Cyprians contemprory in his Epists to Tobias tells of a certain Priest who gave a particle of the consecrat'd host to aboy in order to bring it to serapion who wa● desparate ill in his dying bead Paulinus who has been very familiar with St. Ambrose and present at his deah relates writing his life that he receiv'd the Communion only under the form of bread and St. Basil did the same as also we read in his Life which neither of them wou'd offer to do if they had believ'd it to be either agaīst the doctrine of the Church or the institution of Christ Sozomenus in his 8 book c 5 Nicepherus in his 13 Book c 7 writes of a certain womā who was infected by the Macedonian heresie but thinking to conceal her wickedness and pretending before the people to be a Catholick she receiv'd the blessed Sacrement under the form of bread from the hād of St. Chrisostome which afterwards she gave privately to her maid thinking to eat in its sted other bread which shee brought from home but it seems that God Almighty was pleas'd to discover her prophane intention for that bread which she thought to eat was sudēdly turn'd into a stone before all the cōgregatiō The Manichees who abhorr'd wine believing it to be the Devils gall never Communicated by only under the forme of bread as St. Leos 4 Ser in ●ent expressly testifies but Epiphanius St. Augustin several others who writt of the Manichean errors never mention'd that they err'd in Receiving the Communion in one sole species But I acknowledge that the Bishops of Italy about the year 444. did much Recommend the
aforsaid do expressly testifi● and also Sozomenus in his boo● c. ● Under whose wings did S● Chrysostome fly for justice beit depos'd by Theophilus and h● adherences but under the win● of Innocentius the first as appea● by St Chrysostome's 1. 2. Epi●● to the same To whom did For●● na●us Felix being depos'd Africk appeal but to Corneli● Pope of Rome as St. Cyprian ●● his first book Epist 3 declares To whom did Basilide● appeal but to Pope Stephen as St. Cyprian testifies Epist 68. To the Pope of Rome Valent and Ursacius came to give an account of their treachery against St. Athanasius and to crave pardon for the same as Epiphanius heresie 68 relates Marcion being excommunicated by his own Bishop in Asia came to Rome to be absolv'd by P●us the first as St. Epiphanius relates heresie 42 who depos'd Anthimus the Patriarch of Constantinople and establish'd in his place Mena but Agapetus the Pope as Liberatus affirms in his b●eviat● 62. and also Zonarias writīg the life of Iustinian Who depos'd Flavianus the Patrian of Antioch but Pope Danias Theodoret relates in his 5 ●●● c 23 who depos'd Polychron● Bishop of Ierusalem about ● year 434 but Pope Sixtus th● as appears in the acts of Six● Who depos'd Dioscorus Paarch of Alexandria but the of Rome as Gelatius's Epistle the Dardanian Bishops expre●● declares wherin he also rela● that Pope Iulius the first reslo●● Athanasius Alexādrinus Pau● Constantinopolitanus Mar●lus Ancyranus to their own Bi●●opricks who re-establish'd Pe● St. Athanasius successor be wrongfully depos'd by the A●●ans but Pope Damas as Sozo● ●us affirms in his 6 bo●k c 9. who ●estor'd Theodoretus being also ●rongfull● depos'd by the A●●i●ns in the 2 Ephesian svnod but Pope Leo as is manifest by the first action of the General Council of Calcedon It was only the Popes of Rome ●hat had i● the Primitive Church their deputies and Vicar-generals in all foraign and remote Countryes viz. Anastasius Bishop of Thesalōica in the Orient as a●pears by St. Leo's 84 Epist Potentius ' in Africk as the same Leo's 87 Epist declares A●acius Patriarch of Constantino●le in Egypt whom the Pope of Rome commanded to depose the Bishop of Alexandria as Gelatius relates in his Epist to the Dardanian Bishops Celestinus Pope of Rome Authoriz'd St. Cyrill of Alexandria to proc●ed against Nestor then Bishop of Counstontinople as appears by Caelestinus's Ep to St Cyrill which is to be seen in St. Cyrill's 4. tome where also St Cyrill declares in his Epist to those of Counstantinople that the charge of that Bishoprick was committed unto himself by the Bishop of Rome Pope Hormisda instituted Salustius Bishop of Sevil his Vicar-general through Spain and Portugall as appears by the said Hormista's Epist to the same and St Gregory instituted Vigilius Bishop of Orleance to be his Vicargeneral thro' all France as may beseen in St Gregory's 4th book Epïst 52. It was also the Pope of Rome's Legates that were Presidents in the General Councils of the Primitivc Church as for example Hosius Vitus and Vincentius St Sylvester's Legates have been presidents in the General Council of Nice as Cedrinus in his Compendio Potius in his book de 7 Synodis and St Athanasius in his Epist to those who leade a solitary life do relate St Cyrill of Alexandria Pope Caelestinu's Legate preceded in the Council of Ephesias as Liberatus in his Breviate c 15. Evagrius in his first book c. 4 do write Paschasius L●c●●sius and Bonifacius St. 〈◊〉 Legates were Presidents in the General Council of Calcedon a● is evident by the ● action of ●he ●ame Cou●cil and also by S Leo's 47 Epist Arch●d●mus and Philaxen●s Iulius the first 's Legates pre●e●●d in the General Council of Sard●s as St. Athanasius in his ● Apology and Theodoretus in his a book c 15 do declare It was only to the Pope of Rome the decrees and Canons of all General and famous Councils where sent in the primitive Church in order to be approv'd and confirm'd by his holynesse as for example it was to St. Sylvester Pope of Rome the Fathers of the Council of Nice sent a letter most humbly beseeching his holynesse to Ratifie and confirme the decrees of the said Council which letter is to be seen in the second Tome of the Councils The Fathers of this Council were in number 318 and sate in the year 325. The Fathers of the General Coūcil of Constātinople being in number 150 assembled in the year 381 writ to Damas Pope of Rome by Cyriacus Eusebius and Pris●ianus Bishops praying him to aprove and confirme their Canons this Councils letter is to be seen in Theodoret's 5th book c. 9. The decrees of the General Council of Ephes●s wherein 200 Fathers sate in the year 431 were sent to Pope Celestinus in order to be confi●m'd as St. Cyrill's Epist testifies which Epistle is to be seen in the 3 Tome of the Councils The Fathers of the General Council of Calcedon being in number 630 and sate in the year 451 sent their Canons to Pope Leo in order to be confirm'd by him as appears by the said Council's Epistle to the same which is to be seen in the 4th Tome of the Councils The Fathers of the Milevian Council sent their Canōs to Pope Innocentius the first in the year 416 to be confirm'd as appears by this Council's Epistle which is to be seen in the 1 Tome of the Coūcils The Fathers of the Council of Carthage sent their Canōs the year 356 to be confirm'd by Pope Stephen as is manifest by their own Epistle which is to be seen in St. Cyrill's 2 book and also in the first Tome of the Councils I might produce several other convincing proofs concerning this point but that I may be easie to the reader I will conclude only with these followīg Councils who sate in the Primitive Church and acknowledg'd in their very Canons the Pope of Rome's Supremacy viz. the 20 chap of the Council of Rome who sate in the year 324. The 3 chap of the 3. 4th Council of Rome who sate in the year 502. The 3 4th 9th Canon of the Council of Sardis wherein 376 Fathers were The 6th Canon of the General Council of Nice The 5 Canō of the General Council of Constantinople The 1 2 3 16. Action of the General Council of Calcedon who sayes thus in the 16th we throughly consider ●ruly that all Pr●macy chief honour is to be keept for the Arch Bishop of old Rome Chap 5 Proving that the Real Presence was believ'd by those of the Primitive Church The very words of Iesus Christ and also the Authentical Testimonyes of the holy Fathers and Doctors of the Primitive Church do clearly affirm that Christ's true body and blood are Really and Substantially present in the holy Sacrament therefore this Doctrine was not newly brought-in since the Primitive Church the consequens is most certain as we shall see here-after
purging fire or eternal punishment in his book de Cura pro Mortuis e. 1. he sayes the ●ollowing words we read in the Machabees that sacrifice has been offer'd for the dead but altho' it wou'd never be read in the old Testament yet the Authority of the who●e Church which is manifest in this custom is not weaks where in the priests prayers which are offer'd to God at his Altar the commemoration for the dead has also it's one place and in the 4 c of the same book he sayes thus supplications for the souls of the dead ought not to be omttted which are to be made for all those who dy'd in the Ch●istia● and Catholick society tho' their names be n●t specifi'd the Church receives it vnder a General●●mmemoration that it might be offer'd by the holy publick mother for them even as for those who has not parents oy children relation or friends to remember them and in the 18. c. ●speaking of the sacrifices prayers and alms which are offer'd for the dead he sayes the follo●ing words they do not avai● to all those for whom they are offer'd but only to those who deserv'd it when they liv'd but because we can not discern who are those it must needs be offer'd for all Christians in his 9th book of Confession c. 13. he earnestly beseeches others to pray for the soul of his mother Monica and in his book of heresie c. 53. he calls Aerius a heretick for not allowing sacrifice to be offer'd for the dead more of his Authority may be seen in my answer to the first point Now let us heare the Council● decrees It was enacted in the 29 Chap. of the 3. Council of Carthage the year 397. that the holy sacrament shu'd not be receiv'd by any but by those who wou'd be fasting and in case that there wou'd be any office to be perform'd in the afternoon for the dead that it shu'd be only perform'd in prayers without offering the holy sacrifice It was also decreed in the 47. ●hap of the 4. Council of Carthage celebrated the year 398 that in prayers and oblations there shu'd be a commemoration made of those who accidentally would dye in their Journey or by sea Jf they executed attentively the law of penance Likewise it was enacted in the 34 chap of the first Council of Bracara now call'd Braga a City in Portugal the year 412. not to pray for the souls of those who wou'd kill themselves and in the 39 chap. of the same Council the clergy where commanded to divide the ablations which wou'd be offer'd amongh themselves that equaly they might be oblig'd to pray for the dead It was also decreed in the Council of Cavaillon a town in France the year 4●0 that they shu'd pray in their solemn Masses for the souls of the dead c. 16. which may be seen de Consee Dist 1. Can. Visum est and the same was practis'd before in France as is evident by the 6. Canon of the Council of Vasens produc'd in my answer to the first point But that I may not be too tedious in proving the minor I shall conclude with the following revelations St. Gregorie relates in his 4th book of Dialogues ● 40 that the soul of Paschasius appear'd to the holy Bishop St Germa●●●s and ●ould him that God was pleas'd to release himself ou● of Purgatory by his prayers he also relates c. 55 that the soul of a certain monke appear'd to himself and ●ould him that it ●as releas'd by the vertue of thirty mas●es which he order'd to be said for him St. Gregorie the bishop of Tours in his book de Gloria Confes●orum c 5. affirms that the soul of Vitulina appear'd to St Martin and ●ould him that it suffer'd the punishment of Purgatory by reason of a smal si●ne which she commited ted in this life Venerable Bede in his 5. book of the Historie of Englād c 13 relates that terrible vision of Driethelme who after his death reviv'd and tould wonderfull things concerning hell Purgatory and Paradise Petrus Damianus in his ●pist to Desiderius relates that the soul of Severinus the Bishop of Coliein appear'd to a certain Priest and tould that he sufferd in purgatory because when he was a live he did not use to say his canonical hours in distinct times but said all in the morning that he might spend the whole day attending temporal affairs also St. Bernard writing the life of St. Malachias relates that his Sisters soul appear'd to St. Malachias and tould him that it suffer'd the pains of Purgatory and Gul●●●●us Abbas w●i●īg the life of St. Bernard in his first book c. 10 sayes that one of St. Bernards monks ●ho dy'd appear'd to St Bernard and tould him that he was rel●ast out of purgatory by his prayers It is also to be seen in the life of St Anselmus that he was for a ●●ole twelve-moūth offering sacrifices for the releasment of a certain friends soul who was punish'd in Purgatory but was releast thro' the merits of God and by his continual prayers several other revelations might be produc'd which for brevity sake ● omit to inse●● here for I suppose what I have already produc d to have evidently made out the verity of my minor and also to have fully satisfi'd the reader Chap 11 Proving that all those of the Primitive Church had not the word of God in their Mother to●gue and that the reading thereof is not profitable or genera●ly allowed to all people There were severall nations in the first five centuryes who did not generally understand either the Syriack Hebrew Greeck or Latin To●gue therefore there were several nations in the first five centuryes who had not the word of God in their own tongue the antecedent is evident Acts Cap 2. as may be seen in my answer to the adversary's 3. point And ● prove the consequence thus the word of God was neither written or translated into any other language in the first five C●nturyes but only in the aforesaid as all ancient writters do unanimously affirm therefore there were several nat●ons in the first five Centuryes who had not the word of God in their own tongue who conseqently cou'd not rea● the Scripture nav those who cou'd understand some of these languages had no General accesse to the reading thereof for in those times there were but few exampl●s ●● of it which were only in Manu-script for the art of Printing was not then found-out nor in a long t●me after researv'd by the Church as St Denis the Are●pagite declares in his book de Eccles. Hier. saying that the ●acred mysteries were ke●pt secred from the commonality whereby it appears that it was then needlesse to prohibit them to read the scrpture whereas they were otherwise ●●nder'd by the aforsaid impediments It also appears that the reading thereof in the Mother tongue is not necessary for all nations for if it were certainly those of the Primitive Church
sayes thus It was not in vain the Apostles order'd that they shou'd be remember'd in the venerable and terribile mysteries for they knew this to be a relief and help to them for when all the people with open arms and the priests offer that dreadfull sacrifice full of veneration how shall we not pacific God praying for them he hath such an other Authority in his 41. Homily on St. Pauls first Epist to the Corinthians and in his 7. Homily on his Epist to the Hebrews he sayes thus speaking of Christ we offer alwayes the same truely noe other but still the same therefore it is one sacrifice for this reason because he is offer'd in several places are they many Christs no not at all but one Christ in all places who is wholy and intirely here and there one bo●● in his 32. de Consubstantiali ●● Sharply reprehend those who neglect to hear masse and in his 2● Homily de baptismo he compare those who leave masse before th● last benediction to Judas who the Lords last supper departe before giving thanks More ●● his Authorityes may be seen n● only in his liturgy but also i● several places manifestly proving the ancient practice of celebrating masses St. Augustin wh● liv'd in the begining of the 5. century declares in his 9 book o● Confession c. 12. that there w● masse said for the soul of his own Moth● Monica her body being laid beside t● sepulchre In his 32 Ser de verb is Apostoli speaking of the dead he sayes the following words the prayers of the holy church the comfortable sacrifice and the alms which are offer'd for those spirits is not to be doubted that they are help'd by them for this hast been deliver'd by the Fathers which new the universal Church observes that those whodye in the communion of the body blood of Christy are remembr'd when the sacrifice is offer'd who doubts them to be favour'd for prayers are not in vain offer'd for them to God And in his Enchiridion c. 110. he also sayes that it is not to be deny'd that the soul of the dead are o●s'd when the holy sacrifice is offer'd for them In his 22. book of the city of God chap. 8. he relates that when Hesperious's coūtry house was troubl'd by malignant spirits tha● he desir'd one of his priests to go thither by the vertue of whose prayers the spirits might give over one of them went saith he and offer'd there the sacrifice of the body of Christ and afterwards the House was no more troul'd More of St. Augustins Authorityes may be seen in hi● 46. Epist in his book de cura promorcuis c. 18. in his book desancta virgin c. 45. in his first book de origine animae c. 9. 11 in his 84. treatise in Joānem All which I omit to produce for breviti sake shall only insert that of venerable Bede who in his first book c 29 ●●lates that St. Gregory had sent Priestly ornaments to St. Augustin the apostle of England and in his 4 book c ●2 he tells that when J●ma was taken captive by the enemyes that he cou'd never bety'd by reason of several masses which his brother Tunna the monke said for his soul believing that he was kill'd in the battel and also in his 5 book c. 13. speaking of that terrible vision of Driethelme who after his death reviu'd and told wonderfull things concerning the pains of purgatory from which said venerable Bede Prayers alms fasts and celebrations of masses doe release many before the day of Judgment Now let us see the councils Authorityes It was decree'd in the 5 can of the council of Vasens atowne in France where 18 Bishops gather'd the year 442 that kyrie eleison shu'd be said in the masses throughout all the Churches of France as it was said long before in the East and in all Italy here are the councils very words quia tam in sede apostolica quam etiam per totas Orientis atque Italiae provincias dulcis et nimis salubris consuetudo in tromissa est ut kirieelcison cum grandi affectu accompūctione dicatur placuit etiam ut in ominibus Ecclesiis nostris ista consuetudo sancta et ad matutinum et ad missas et ad vesperam deo propitiante intromittatur Likewise it was enacted in the 6 can of the same council that the following words holy holy holy shu'd be said īmornig masses ī the masses of lent and in those masses which were offer'd for the dead as it was accustom'd to be said in solemn Masses the words of the Coūcil are these In omnibus missis sive matutinis sive quadragessimalibus sive in illisquae prodefunctorum commemorationibus siunt semper sanctus sauctus sāctus eo ordine quo ad missas publicas dici debeat quiatam dulcis et desiderabilis vox etiam die noctuque possit dici fastidium non potest generare et hoc nobis justum visum est ut nomen Domini Papae quicunque sedi apostolicae praefuerit in nostris Ecclesiis recitetur Which Authorieyes doe not only make out the ancient practice of celebreating Masses but also the Popes supremacy of which I shall treate in my answer to the 4 point In the mean time let us hear the Declarations of other old Councils concerning the present point We read in the 18 can of the council of Agato celebreated the year 506 that the seculars were then oblig'd to receive the Communiō trice in the year viz at Christemas haster and Whitsuntide and in the 47 can of the same coūcil t is expres'd that they were oblig'd to hear masse every sunday Which plainly makes out that in the primitive Church it was lawfull for the Priest to say masse tho' none else wou'd receive the Communion along with him to confirm which I shall produce the Authorityes of the two following Councils who sate above a thousand years agoe the fathers of the 12 council of Toleto can 5 sharply reprehend'd certain Priests for not receiving the Communion when they said Masses which is asign that they acknowledg'd the Masse to be lawfull tho' none wou'd communicate but onely the Priest And the council of Nant c 30 quoted by Ivo p 3 deer e 70 ● prohibit'd the Priests to say masse alone withōut the assistance of one to answer them which Authority proves the ancient practise of celebrating privat masses Tho' Luther and his doctrine aleadges the contrary for the fathers of that Council only obliges the Priests to have clerks to answer them but mentions not a word of a second person to be requisite for receiving the communion along with the Priest for they knew too well that there was no divine or Ecclesiastical precept obliging the Priest not to say Masse if none else wou'd communicate along with him and moreover that there was no Precept commanding others to receive the Communion as often as the Priest wou'd celebrat Masse for that was left to the
chalice his blood if they acknowledge him not to be the son of the maker of the world Tertullian who liv'd in the year 230 sayes thus in his book of the resurrection of the flesh the flesh is wash'd that the soul may be clean'd the flesh is anointed that the soul may be consecrated the flesh eateth of the body and blood of Christ that the soul may be ●urish'd Orig●n●s who liv'd in the same age sayes thus hom 7th in Eum speakīg of the old law th●n the manna was meat in figure but now the flesh of God is meat inspecie as himself sayes my flesh is m●at in deed and in his 5th Hom in diversa loca Evangely speaking of the Centurian he sayes the follwing words wh●n you receive the holy meat and uncorrupted banquet when you receive the bread and cup of ●ief you eat drinke the body blood of the Lord then the Lord inters into your house you therefore humbling yourself immitate this Centurian say● o Lord I am not worthy that thou sho●●est inter into ●y house St Cypria● who liv'd in same Century in his 5th ser de Lapsis sayes thus Violence is infer'd to his body blood they offend now more the Lord wi●● their hands mou●h than when th● deny'd the Lord and in his ser o● the Lords supper he also sayes the following words the doctrin of this Sacrament is streange ● the Evangelical schooles publi●h'd 〈◊〉 this doctrine it first appear'd to th● world by Christ the teacher thereof th● Christians should drinke blood who drinking is most strictly forbidden ●● the Authority of the old law but ●● Gospel commends to drinke it Befo●● I shall proceed further I mu●● take notice of St. Cyprian's words positively affirming that this Doctrine of the real presence has been first taught by Christ and his Disciples and also that Christians are commanded to drinke blood which was prohibited by the old law for the old law● did not prohibit to drinke blood in figure or in remembrance for the Jewes did drinke the blood of Christ figuratively in drinking the water which flow'd our of the Rocke therefore that which was prohibited by the old law was only to drinke true and real blood but St. Cyprian clearly affirms that the Gospel commāds the Christians to drinke that which was prohibited by the old law therefore St. Cyprian affir● that the Christians are comman●ed by the Gospel to drinke t●● and real blood and consequen● not in figure as my adversa● would faine perswade St. Hila●us who liv'd in the 4th Cent●ry in his 18th book of the T●nity says thus If the word be t●● incarnate we do truly receive the w●● flesh of the flesh blood 's ●●● there is noe roome left for being doubt for by the Lord 's own confes● and by our faith it is truly flesh truly blood let us read what is wri●● and let us understand what we r●● and then we will perform the dut● perfect faith for according to the tural truth of Christ in us what ●● we learn unless we learn it f●om ● we learn it imprudently impiously f●r he said my fl●●h is meat in deed c. St. Cyril of Ierusalem who liv'd in the s●me Century Catech 4 say●● the following words This of St. Paul's Doctrine can sufficiently make ye most certain co●cerning the divine mysteries seeing Christ himself so affirms sayes of the bread this is m● body wh● afterwards can presume to doubt the same also saying confirming this is my blood who I say can doubt say that it is not his blood St. Ambrose who also liv'd in the same Century in his book de Mysterys Initiandis c 9th sayes the following words Perhaps you may say I see the contrary how can you affirm to me that I can receive Christ's body this now we are to prove therefore w● use great examples that we may prove this not to be what nature form'd but what benediction consecrated the benediction to be of more power than the natur●s because even ●he very nature is converted by the benediction Moses threw a rod which he converted into a serpent aft●rwards he tooke the serpent's tail converted the same into a rod therefore you see the nature of the serpent of ●he rod to have been twi●e chang'd by a Prophetical benediction If human benediction be of such power that it can change nature what do we say to the divine consecration where the very words of the Lord our Saviour do worke for the Sacramē● which you receive is perfected by the words of Christ what if Elias's words were of such force that they cou'd draw fi●e out of he●ven will not Christs w●rds be able to change the nature of the elements Of all the workes in the world you have read because he said they were made he commanded they were created therefore Christ's words which cou'd make that which was not of nothing can they not change these things which are into that which they were not for it is not less to give things new beings than to change their natures but why doe w● use arguments but let us use his own examples prove the truth of this mysterie by the Incarnatiō's example did the course of nature take place when the Lord was born of Mary it is manifest that the Virgin conceiv'd contrary to the order of nature this body which we perform is of the Virgin Why do you i●quire here th● c●u●se of 〈…〉 Ch●●st's body when the Lord himself w●●●or● of the Virgin beyond the co●rs● of nature Sur●ly the true flesh of Christ was crucifi'd buri'd truly th●n the s●crament i● of that same flesh Tho' what I have already produc'd of this eminent Doctor 's Authority might satisfie any impartial reader yet I will adde these other Authorityes of his confirming the same in his 4th book de Sacram c 5. he sayes thus The Lord Iesus Christ declar'd unto us that we receive his own body blood why shu'd we doubt of his Authority testimoney and in his 6th book c 1 he also sayes thus as our Lord Iesus Christ is the true son of God even so it is true flesh which we receive as himself said St. Gregory Naz●anzen who liv'd in the same age in his 2 Oration de Pascha●e sayes the followings words eate the body drinke the blood with-out confusion doubt be constant firm stedfast you need not be any thing troubl'd in mind for the adversary's discourse St Ephrem who liv'd in the year 365 in his book de Natura Dei minima Scrutanda c 5 sayes the following words why do you track-out unsearchable things If you search curiously these things new you will not be call'd faithfull but curious be faithfull innocent partake of the immaculate body of thy Lord with full faith being sure that you do eat the intire lambe the mysteries of Christ are everlasting fire do
the other not Now letus héare the holy Fathers Authorityes and the practice of the Primitive Church St Ire●aeus● who liv'd in the 2 Century in his 5th book against hereses sayes thus and as Eve was seduc'd that the might avoid God even so ma●y was advis'd to obey God that she might become Eves advocate Origines who liv'd in the 3 Century in his first homily on Ezech sayes thus come Angel and receive the converted from the former error from the devilish Doctrine call the rest of your compa●ions that ye may together inst●uct in the faith all those who formerly has ●een deceiv'd more of Origen's Authorityes may be seen hom 3. in Diversa Loca Novi T●estamenti hom 16. in ●osue and hom 26 in Nume Cornelius who liv'd in the same century in his first Epist sayes thus we are Praying God our Lord Jesus Christ that by the intercessions of his own holy Apostles he may purge out the blemishes of your sinnes St. Cyprian who also liv'd in the 3. Century in his book de Disiplina et Habitu Virginum speaking to the Virgins sayes thus peform spiritually come prosperously and be mindfull of us Eusebius Caes who liv'd the year 326. in his 13. book de Evang. Praep. c. 7. sayes we ●ouldiers of true pie●y do daily practise these thing honouring the friend s of God praying to them by whose intercession to God we do freely acknowledge to be much favour'd S. Athansius w●o liv'd in the same Century in his ser in Evangelium speaking of the blessed Virgin Mary sayes the following words incline they hearing to our prayers and do not forget they people we cry to thee be mindfull of us most holy Virgin who also after your delivery cont●nu'd a Virgin Lady Mistress and Queen and Mother of God intercede for us St Hilarius who liv'd the year 355. in psal ● 9 sayes that the nature of God dose not want the intercession of Angels God being ignorant of nothīg that we do but our own weakness wants it he has such another Authority speaking of the Apostles and Prophets intercession expounding the 124. Psalm St. Basil who liv'd in the same age in his Oration of the 40. Marty●es sayes thus whosoever is oppress'● with trouble let him sly for refuge t● these martyres that he may be ridd o● his troubles and whosoever rejoyces let him Pray to them ●hat he ●ay continue in his prosperityes And in his 205. Epist which is to Julian after specifying several points of faith which himself beliv'd he sayes the following words and I do embrace the holy Apostles Prophets and invocate them in my supplication to God that by their intercession he might be mercyfull to me S. Cyrill of Jerusalem who liv'd about the same time Catech. 5. sayes thus when we offer this sacrifice we also make mention of those who d●'d before us first of the Patriarchs Prophets Apostles and Martyres that God may receive our prayer by their intercession S. Ephraem who also liv'd in the same Century in his ser de Laudibus Martyrum sayes the following words we beseech ye most holy Martyres who for the sake of the Lord readily and willingly suffer'd torments for which ye are all now most fa●●liar with God that ye may be pleas'd to intercede to the Lord for us poor sinners that the grace of Christ might light upon us St. Gregorie Nazianzen who liv'd the year 370 in his Oration speaking to S. Athanasius after his death sayes thus and look upon us favorably from alove and govern this holy people nu●ish and feed us in peace direct and take us up in the battel and place us with your self and with those who are in the same cond●tion with you he implores also St. Cyprian St. Basil's assistance in his Oràtions of them after their death St. Ambrose who liv'd the same time sayes the following words the Ange●s who are employ'd to asist us ought to be pray'd to and the Mar●yres they can interced● for our sins who with their proper blood wash'd a way if they had any sins let ●s not be asham'd to apply them a intercessors of our weakness More of this holy Doctors Authority may be seen in his 2. book de Virg. in his 10 book in Lucam expounding the 21. ● and in his Preparation before mass where he begs the assistance and intercession of the Apostles Martyres Cōfessors S. Gregorie Nysen who liv'd the year 380 in his Oration of St. Theod●r M●r●yer sayes thus we stand i●●●ed o● great favours int●rc●de a●d p●ay ea●n●stly to the ●niversal Ki●● 〈◊〉 Lord for the Coun●ey for we 〈…〉 ●e ex●●ct dangers the wicked S●ithio●s are ●t far o● d●clari●g war against ●s 〈◊〉 for us as a Sou●dier as a mar●yer ●se the liberty of 〈◊〉 for your fellow ●rvant altho' you ha●e ●e●s the world 〈◊〉 you kn●w th● disposition interest ●●d 〈◊〉 of 〈◊〉 n●ture beg 〈◊〉 that these ●ublick assemblyes ●ay not give over 〈◊〉 the ●urious wi●●ed and ●orb●rous 〈◊〉 wo●'d ●aise agaīst us and ass●●ls our Church●● and Altars but if it be requisite ●● have more assistance and prayers gather your consorts the Martyres and pray along with them for the prayers o● many righteous doth wash away the 〈◊〉 of many admonish Peter move Paul and John th●t beloved Disciple tha● they may take care of those Churches for whose sake they endur'd chains suffer'd dangers and death S. Hierome who liv'd the year 390 in his Oratiō on Paula sayes thus ●earwel O Paula and help with your prayers thy worshipper in his old age fo● you who is present will more easily obtain what you demand S. Chrisostome who also liv'd the same time in his 45. homily speaking of St. Meletuis sayes thus therefore let us all together men and women both young and old pray to holy Miletius c. In his ser speaking of the blessed Lady he sayes the followīg words ●t us recurr to the most holy Virgin Mary Mother of God that by her inter●●ssion ●e may obtain our request we beseech ●●ee to intercede for us daily to our Lord Jesus Christ thy own son that ●y thee thro' his grace and benignity ●e may be pardon'd in his 66. hom to the people of Antioch he sayes thus he who gose in his purple ●d royal crown laying by his pride ●raws near the Saints sepulchres humbly beseeching them to intercede for him ● God c. More of St. Chrysostoms Authorityes may be seen in his 5th hom in Matt. in his ser de Juventio and Maximio and in his first hom on St. Paul's first Epist ●o the Thessalonians where he Numbers several benefit● grāted by the Saints intercession thro' their merits S. Augustin who liv'd the year 4●0 in his 7 book against the Dona●●sts 〈◊〉 speaking of St. Cyprian sayes the ●ollowing words we beseech him to a●●●●● us with his prayers c. in his 84. Treatise in John he sayes that it was therefore they did not pray
for the Martyres as they did for other people who dy'd because they knew that they did not want their payers but they wanted the Martyres ●rayers and in his 29. Ser of the Saints speaking of St Peter's Miracles he sayes thus If then the shadow of his body coul'd relieve how much more now the plenitude of his vertue If then a certain noise of him passing ●prevaic'd to these who beseech'd him ●● much 〈◊〉 ●his 〈◊〉 gra●s ●f the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he may see ●ore of St 〈◊〉 A●thorities 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 V●rbis Apos●oli ●● his 〈◊〉 Q●●● 〈◊〉 his book 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. 4. and in ●● 〈◊〉 ●n the 19. ● of 〈…〉 〈…〉 pro●● 〈…〉 with the Auth●● 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 General Co●cil of 〈…〉 Fa●ers 〈◊〉 ●●●● earnest● 〈◊〉 Fl●●ianus then 〈…〉 themselves as 〈◊〉 ●● by the ●● Action we ●●re●d in the Bishop● of Eu●●ps 〈◊〉 to ●●eo the Emp●●●r 〈…〉 in the ●ater end of this Council that they declar'd themselves to acknowledge that holy Pro●erius was register'd in the Cathologue of Marty res that they beg'd God Almighty to be favourable mercifull to themselves thro' his intercessiō all which Authorityes do evidētly make out that the Catholicks of the Primitive Church where accustom'd to invocate Saints Chap. 10 Proving that Purgatory was believ'd by those of the Primitive Church For the better intelligence of this point let the reader know that altho' the sinners crime is forgivē yet the sinner under gose some temporal punishment as is manifest Numb c. 12. v 1. 2 10 14 where we read that when the sin of murmuring was forgiven to Mary by Moses intercession yet in punishment thereof she had the leprofie for the speace of seven dayes and was oblig'd to lev● the whole camp during that time When the Israelites sinn'd against God and offer'd to rebel against Moses tho' their sinnes ●e●e forgiven thro' the Lord's infinite mercy and by the intercession of Moses yet in punishmēt of their crime several of them dy'd in the wilderness and never ●as admited to come to the land of promise Num ● 14 v. 19. 20 ●● ● 24 3 7. also when David sinn'd against the Lord his crime was forgiven but in punishment thereof his son dy'd the ● book of Kings ● 12 v 13 14 18 finally we read in St Paul's first Epist to the Cormthians ● 11 v 30 that several of the Cormthians were mortifi'd by the Lord and also that some of them dy'd because they receiv'd unworthily the holy Sacrament but then their sins has been forgiven as is evident by the 32 v where St. Paul sayes the following words but when we are judg'd we 〈◊〉 chastized by the Lord that we shu'd not be condemn'd ●hereby the reader may plainly 〈◊〉 that God dose not 〈◊〉 the punishment as 〈…〉 forgiven the 〈…〉 ●emency and infinite mercy changes that eternal punishment into some temporal affliction 〈◊〉 if the sinner dose not undergo in this world he must suffe● for it after his d●ath before ever he shall enter into the Kīgdom of ●eaven for non● is receiv'd there untill he is even as clean f●om all manner of sin and fault as he was immediatly after his Baptism as witnesseth that of Iohn 〈◊〉 c 21. v 27 This presuppos'd I may lawfully inferr that ther● must be some place of tempor●l punishment ●● order to purifie and cleanse nos●●ouls who doe not perform 〈…〉 world and 〈…〉 sins to which ●ternal punishmēt is not due for it wou'd be a most ūreasonable thig of us to believe that he who immediatly has been in the state of grace and dyes suddenly after speaking an idle word or committing some other smal offence shu'd be oblig'd to everlasting torments even as he who suddenly dyes without any kind of repentance after committing murder adultry or some other great crime therefore being he cannot inter the into heaven by reason of that small offence he must go to some other place untill he is pur●●i'd which I shall prove by the following argument what ever the old and new Testament the holy Fathers and Doctors of the Primitive Church several Councils true and wonderfull revelations affirms ought to be believ'd by all Christians but the old and new Testament the holy Fathers and Doctors of the Primitive Church several Councils true and wonderfull revelation affirms that which the Church of Rome calls Purgatory to be a place of temporal punishment wherin some souls are chastiz'd and purifi'd after lēving this world therefore Purgatory ought to be believ'd by all Christians the consequence is evident ●s we shall see hereafter and the major cannot be deny'd by any true Christian as for the minnor I will prove it after the same order w●erei●●●'s f●●●'d therefore I ●ill beg●n 〈◊〉 the Au●●o●●es of the old Testament We fin● in the 6● Ps●●● which is the 〈◊〉 ●n the 〈◊〉 English 〈◊〉 3. 〈◊〉 in 〈◊〉 ●18 〈◊〉 O s●● c. 〈◊〉 ●8 ●t 〈…〉 his perpetual●y and ●o c●as●en one in his 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is ●o punish hi● seve●ly 〈◊〉 this ●ite i● order 〈…〉 and so concluds w●●● the following words O Lord 〈◊〉 p●eas'd to 〈…〉 in this wo●ld th●● I 〈◊〉 ●ot w●nt tha● correctīg ●ire And it ●hall 〈◊〉 to p●sse that he that is le●t i● z●●● and ●e that remaineth in Jer●salem sha●l be call'd ●o●y when t●e Lord that ha●e wash'd away the 〈◊〉 of the da●g●●ers of zion shall have pu●g'd the blo●d of Jerusalem from the ●id●t the ●o by the spirit of jugedment and by the spirit of burning Isaih c. 4. v 3. and 4. which text according to St. Augustin in his 20th book of the City of God c. 25. m●●ns the releasment ●hich souls do get from the burning fire of Purgatory Micah c. 7. v. 7. 8. and 9 ● will look unto the Lord. I will wait for the God of my salvation my God will heare me rejoice not against me O! mine enemy when I fall I shall arise when I sit in darknesse the Lord shall be light onto me I will beare the indignatiō of the Lord because I have sinn'd against him untill he plead my case and execute judgement for me he will bring me forth to the light and I shall behold his righteousnesse Which words as St. Hierome affirms in his commentary on the last c. of I saiah means the releasment of those souls who do suffer in Purgatory fire Zechariah c. 9. v 11. you also by the blood of they covenant have brought forth your prisoners out of the p●t wherein there is no water S● Pete● speakïg of those Prisone●s in his 〈◊〉 Ep. c. 3. v. 18. 19 20 sayes thus for christ also hath once suffer'd for sins the just for the unjust that he might brīg us to God bei●g put to death in the flesh but quickened by the spirit by which also he went and preach'd unto the spirits in prison which sometimes were disobed●ent when once the long suffering of God waited in the dayes of Noah while
to pray and give offerings for the soul of her de●●ased husband Origenes who liv'd in the year 220. ho● 6 on Exod. speaking of the soul's progresse when it comes to Purgatory sayes the following words and when it is ar●●sl●d there 〈…〉 willbrīg many good wor●s a●d al●●tle iniquity that 〈◊〉 is purg'd and disolv'd even as lead is by ●●re St. Athanasius who liv'd in the 4 age in his 34. Question to Ant●●chus speaking of the Prayer● and obla●ions offer'd for the dead sayes thus If they wou●d ●ot receive some benefit by this certainly there wou'd be ●●no commemorat on made in grief ●orr●● and ●nerals we know the ●o●ls ● sinners to receive som● b●●efit by the ●● bloody sacri●i●e by the gra●ific ●i●● offer'd for them ●s our Lord who h●● the dominion of both the qu●ck a●● the dead ●rde●'d and commanded S● Cyrill of Ierusa●em who liv'd i● the same age Catech. Myst ● sayes the following wor●is we ●● pray f●r all ●hose who dy'd among●● us believing the obl●tion of the holy terrible sacrifice to be a g●eat help to those souls for whom it is offer'd St. Ephrem who liv d the ●ame time in his la●t will earnestly be ●eches the people to be alwayes mindfull of him●elf in their Prayers St. Ba●il who also thē liv'd instituted an Oration in his Liturgie in order to ●e said for the dead and on the 9. ●●p of Isaiah he sayes thus there ●● if we w●●l discover the sinne by ●infession we shall dr●● even a● the ●●y which is ea●e● and it is ●●t that ●urrasory fire so●uld make an● e●d of 〈◊〉 ●dose not treaten pe●p●tua● death ●●d exile but it grants purgin● a cor●ng to that of the Apostle bu● h●m●elf shall be sav'd ye● so as b● f●re Gregorie NaZ●anz●n who liv●d the year ●70 in his Funeral Ora●tion of Caes●rius most humbly beseeche● the C●ristians to pray for the sou●s of the dead and himself prayes for the soul of Cae●arius in the same Oration St. ●p●phanius who as been con●emporary to St Gregorie in th● end of his ●ork against Heresis ● numbers the prayers for the dead amongst th● doctrine of the holy Catholic● Church and Heresie 75. he call● Aerius an heretick for denying it to be ●awfull to pray for the de● ad St. Ambrose who also liv'd about the same time in his 2 boo● Epist 8. which is to Faustus concerning his sisters death saye● thus therefore I do judge that she i● not as much to be moan'd as she i● to be oblig'd b● prayers neither is s●● to he griev'd by your tears but rath● h●r soul is to be recommended to G●● by ●blations in his Orati●s of The odosius Valētinianus Satyrus death he prays most fervently ●o their souls promisses to offer sacrifices for them And expound● the 3 Chap. of St. Paul's Epist ● ●orinthians he sayes the follo●ing words but wh●n ●aul sayes ●so as by f●re indeed ●e dec●ares it he shall be sav'd but he will suf●r the punishme●t of fire that he may ●purg'd b●●ire and ma●e sound and mus● not be tortur'd perpetually by ●nal fire a● the traitou●s ●re he has ●ch a nother passage in his 20th ●● in psal ●●8 St. Gregorie Nys●n who liv'd the year 380 in is Oration of the dead sayes ●us wherefore that both the digni●● of human nature and free will mi●ht left and that the evil might cease ●ivine w●sdom invented this means ●t either in this pesent life one must ● purg'd by prayers and exercise of ●rtue or after his death to be clea●s'd the for●ace of purging fire he cannot be cap●ble to enjoye C●d unle●● Pu●gatory fire will take away the spi●● dispe●s'd on the soul St Hierom● who liv'd in the year 390. in hi●●pist to Pammachus concerning ● the death of Paulina sayes thus other husba●ds dospread violets rose● lilyes and flowers ●pon the to●bs 〈◊〉 their wifes but our Po●machus ●● uses the bal●om of alms● knowing 〈◊〉 to be written that as water quenchet● fire even so alms quencheth the sinn●s and expounding the 4. chap. of Amos he also sayes thus according to tha● whi●h we read in St Paul he● shall be sav'd yet so as by fire therefore he ●ho is sav'd by f●re is hurry'd away as if ●● were a fire-brand out of the bu●ni●g slame St Chrisosto●e who liv'd in the year 398 hom 41 on St ●uls first Epist to the Corinthi●s speaking of the dead sayes ●e following words l●t us ass●st ●um not with tears but with prayers ●● supplica●ions alms and oblations ● these things has not been rashly v●nted neither is it in vain that we ●●ember those w●ody'd in the divi●● Mysteries and that we pray for ●●m bese●ehing the expos'd lambe ●ho takes away the sinnes of the world ●at thence forth they might have some ●●solation therefore let us help ●●m and let us per●orm their comme●nation for if ●obs sacr●fice made sa●sfaction for his ●ons what do you ●●ubt if tho●e who dy● ha● some ●●solation we effe●ing sacrifice for ●●m More of St. Chris●stom 's Authority may be seen in my answer to the first point and in his ● hom in Ioann 2● in act a Apos● St Augustin who liv'd in th● year 426. in his 21. book of th● C●ty of God c. 27 sayes that the●● are some Saints who a●ter thei● death gose straight to heaven an● afterwards can help oth●rs an● that there are others of such a bad life who after their death are no● sav'd neither can they help others and finally that there are others who after their death cannot go● straight to heaven by the vertue of their own proper merits but that they can be reliev'd by the merits and good works of their friends and in the 16th chap of the same book speaking of the infants who immediatly dye after ●●eir Baptism he sayes thus It is ●●t only that Eternal punishment is ●● prepar'd for them but neither shall ●●ey suffer Purgatory torments and ●● t●e 24 Chap. he puts a question ●quirīg why dose not the Chur●h pray for those who dye with●ut repentance answers sayīg ●hus Ti 's because they are computed be of the divels party but the ●hurch faithfull's prayers are heard ●● the behal● of others who did not ●have themselves so ill in this life ●ither did they deserve to go directly ●heaven In his book● of Homil yes ●om 16. he sayes that those who ●●s sinnes deserving temporal ●unishments shall go thro' pur●●tory fire according to that of ●●ul he shall be sav'd as by fire And expounding the 37. psalm he sayes thus that ●ire is slighted because ti 's said he shall be sav'd ti 's sure but altho' he shall be sav'd by fire yet that fire is more grievous than any thing that a man can suffer in this life In his 2. book de Genesi c. 20 speaking of him who makes not good use of his life he sayes thus after this life he shall either suffer the
to prevent which now their very tinkers coblers butchers tailers and all sort of curious and ignor●nt mecha●icks do take the liberty of interpreting and expounding the whole Bible to their own ruine and destruction 2. Petri c. 3. v. 16. for how can such ignorant people understand or expound either ●o themselves or to others the prophesie of Ezekiel of Daniel the Revela●ions of St. Iohn where a● S. H●erome affirms every sentence is a misttery which of them can expound the Canticles or what Salomon meāt by those similitudes of Gods Church or the following texts I am the Lord they God visiting the iniquit of ●he Fathers upon the children unto the 3. 4. Generation Exod. c. 20. v. 5. which seems to be contradicted by that of Fzekiel c. 18. v. 20 saying thus the soul that sinneth it shall die the son shall not bear the iniquity of the Father we are expressly commanded by the 20 c. v. ●2 of Exodus to honour our Fathers and mothers But it is said in the 14. Chap. of Luke v. 26 that he 〈◊〉 heats not his Father and mother cannot be the disciple of Christ Moreover Deuteronomie c. 6. v. 13. it is written that thou shall fear the Lord thy G●d serve him and ●w●ar by his Name Which seems to be con●rad●cted by that of St. Mat. c. 5. v. 34. where we read thus I sa unt● yo● swear not at all these and several other texts which ●ight seem to the unlearned to contradict each others and also the mister●es of the holy scripture do excee● the poor ignorant people's understanding and weake capacity nay the very Disciples of Christ cu'd not understand the prop esi●s of the old Testament untill their understanding were open'd whereby they came to their true knowledge as evidently appears Luke c 24. v. 27. and 45 where we read the following words and begining at Moses and all the prophets he exp●u●ded unto them that things concerning himself then he opened their understanding that they might understand the scriptures For want of which understanding in the law of God the pretended reformers and also the ancient here●●●ks of the Primitive Church deserted their true Mother the holy Catholick Church by misinterpre●ing the word of God as for example the Aerians den●ing t●e 2. person of the Bl●ssed T●in●t● to be God and alle●ging for their ground that of St. John c. 17. v. ●● saying thus holy Father keep through thine own Name tho●e who●●●ou hast given me that they may be one as we are the Eunomians asserting the holy Ghost not to be God and producing for their Authority that of Christ Matt. c. 11. v 27. where he sayes thus all things are deliver'd unto me by my Father neiher knoweth any man the Father save the son ' and he to whomsoever the son will reveal him the Eutychians affirming the divine nature in Christ to have been converted into his human nature and alleaging for their ground that of St John c. 1. v 14. where we read the following words the word was made ●lesh and dowleth among us The Berengarians Wicklefians Husites Lutherans and Caluinists err'd so grossly in so many texts of scripture by reason of the great liberty they tooke in interpreting and expounding it to the advantage of their own design that their errors i● they were all related woud require a whole book to themselves so that it plainly appears that the reading and interpreting of the ser●pture is not profitable to all people specially to those who do not ●ecur for the interpretation thereof to the holy Catholick Church which has a promise of the infallible asistance of the holy Ghost to the consumation of the world Matt c. 2● v. 2● so that the Church of Rome had great reason to hunder the ignorant sort of people who might easily be deceiv'd ●rom perusing it with-out having license from their respective Bishops especially in those countryes where heresie abounds and where Bibles are corrupted fearing lest that instead of acquiring more knowledge thereby they might peradventure fall into greater ignorance or some heresie as the aforsaid sectaries have done in so prohibiting she imitate● the example of fond parents who keeps all sort dangerous weapons from the hands of their children forbids them all kind of diea● which might occasion or creat any ill distemper Chap. 12 Proving that the pretended reformers Doctrines are but a heap of several old heresies lawfully condemn'd by the Primitive Church Having sufficiently made-out by the same Authorityes which my adversa●y in his Challenge defies to be produc'd that the old and present Church of Rome is still the same in prīciples ti 's now fit that I shu'd let my adversary know what principles himself the rest of the new reformers do embrace I will only produce the following point 1 The Aerians demolish'd and threwdown the Altars where upon the holy sacrifice were wont to be offer'd as the following Fathers do relate St. Athanasius in his Epist de fuga sua Theodoretus in his 4th book of History c. 19. 2● and Ruffinus in his 11. book c. ● Martin Luther who apostated from the Church of Rome the year 1517. and John Calvin who did the same the year 1538. caus'd al●o the Altars of those Churches which ere under their jurisdictions to be throwdown demo●ish'd as may be seen in Luther's boo● de Formula Missa pro Ecclesia Witt●mbergen●i in Calvin's 4th book of Institutions c. 18. 2 The A●rians rejected all traditions which were not written in the word of God as St. Augustin in his first book against Maximi●us c. 2. last testifies which heresie the Nestorians ●utychians held afther-wards as appears by the first Action of the 2 General Council of Nice the N●itorians errors were condemn'd by the General Council of Ephese the year 4●1 as may be seen Tomo 3 Co●ciliorum Luther in his commentary on St. Pauls ●pist to the Gala●●ans c 2. and Calvin in his 4. book of Institutions ● 8. held also the same heresie 3 The Aerians and Eunomians deny'd that Images ought to be venerated as the Father● of the 2 Council of Nice do relate in the 6. Action John Calvin in his first book Chap. 11. and in his ● 4 book c. 9. and now all the reformers do teach the same 4 The Aerians held that there is no difference between Bishops and Priests but that they are of equal dignity and jurisdiction As St. Epiphanius heresie 75. St Augustin heresie ●3 do write Luther in his book of the Captivity of Babylon cap. de Ordinis Sacramento and adversus falso nominatum ordinem Episcoporum and Calvin in his 4. book of Instutions c. 3 held likewise the same here●ie which now the presbyterians and several others doe embrace 5 The Aerians did not judge it lawfull to pray for the dead or to offer any sacrifice or alms for their releasment and did not believe that there was any place
of temporal punishments after this life as St Augustin heresie 33 and St. Epiphanius heresie ●5 do relate the Cerinthians held the same as St. Epiphanius writes heresie ●8 the Cerinthians errors were comdemn'd by the General Council of Ephese the year 431. as may be seen tomo 3. Conciliorum as for the A●rians errors they have been condemn'd by all the following Councils viz by the Council of Alexandria the year 3 5. tomo 1. Conciliorum by the Councils of Rome which sate the year ●37 and the year 369. by the first General Council of Nice the year 325. the first General Council of Constantinople the year 381. and by the Council of A reminium which sate the year 359. all which Councils are to be seen tomo 2. Conciliorum their errors were also condemn'd by the General Council of Ephese the year 431 tom 3. Conciliorum● by the Council of Calcedon that sate the year 451 tom 4. Counciliorum and by the Fathers of the 2. Council of Constantinople the year 536. which may be seen tomo 5. Conciliorum Luther in his Epist to the Valdinians Calvin in his book of Institutions c. 5. taught also this last point of the Aerian heresie about Purgatory which now all their followers do firmly believe 6 The Novatians believ'd that confirmation was no sacrament as Theodoretus in his 3 book de Haere Fab. writes the Donatists believ'd the same as Optatus in his 2 book against Perminian relates Luther in his book of the Captivity of Babylon cap. d● Confirmatione and Calvin in his 4th book of Institutions c. 19 did embrace teach the same heresie 7 The Novatians held that the Church had no power to forgive sins committed after Baptism consequently they did not allow auricular confession or that the Church cu'd grant Indulgence as all the following Fathers do write St Cyprian in his 57. Epist to Pope Cornelius St. Epiphanius heresie 59 St Augustin heresie 38 and Theodoretus in his 3 book de haereticis fabulis the Novations errors have been condemn'd by the Council of Carthage the year 252. by the Council of Rome the year 253. by the Council of Italy the same year by the Council of Arles the year 452. as may be seen ●omo 1. and 4. Conciliorum Luther in his book of the Capitivity of Babylon Cap. de extrema unctione Calvin in his 4. book of Institutions c. 19 held also this point of the Novatian heresie 8 The Donatists gave out that the Catholick Church fell from the true faith of Jesus Christ and that themselves were renewing it again in Africk as Optatus in his 1. 2. 6. book against the Donatists and St. Augustin heresie 69. and in his book de vnitate Ecclesiae c. 12. do relate Luther in his discourse tomo 2. cap. de partibus and Calvin in his 4th book c. 2. likewise gave-out that the holy Catholick Church fell visibly from the true faith and that themselves were reviving it again 〈◊〉 therefore they their followers are call'd reformers 9 The Donatists held that the holy Eucharist ought not to be ador'd they brake-down the Altars and gave the blessed sacrament to their dogs as Optatus in his 2. 6 book against Perminian and St. Augustin in his 2. book against Petilian c. 51. 60. in his 3 ●● book c. 40. and also in his 163 Epist do relate Luther in his book de Eucharistia ad Waldenses and Calvin de vitand is supersti●ionibus held likewise that the holy Eucharist ought not to be ador'd 10 The Dona●ists deny'd the Pope of Romes s●premacy ●s Opatus and St. Augustin do declare in the aforsaid books Luther in his book de potestate Papae and assertione articuli 25. and Calvin in his 4th book of Institutions c. 6. deny'd the same 11 The Donatists reprov'd the life and vows of monks and religious people as also Optatus St. Augustin write in the aforesaid books Vigilantius and Petilianus reprov'd the same as St. Hierome in his book against Vigilantius and St. Augustin in his 3. book c 40 against Petilianus do affirm● but the Donatists errors were declar'd to be false erronious Doctrines by the Council of Rome the year 313. by the Councils which sate in Africk in the time of J●nocentius the first being the begining of the 5. Century and by several other Councils Marti● Luther writing of the monastical vows held also this last point of the Donatists here●e that he might have some kind of pretence to dispence with himself in his three religious ●ows merrie Cathrine the Nun whom he deluded out of her monastery our Saviour Iesus Christ most strictly commands us to be ware of the doctrine of such false Prophets and he tells us that we shall know them by their fruits here are his very words Beware of false prophets which come to you in she●ps clothing but in wardly they are ruvening wolves ye shall know them by their ●ruits do men ●ather grapes of thorns or ●igs of thistles even so every good tree bring●th forth good fruit but a bad ●ree b●●ngeth for●h evil fruit Matt c. 7. v. 15. 16. 17. 12 The Eustachians endeavor'd to demolish and extirpate the Ecclesiastical convents as socrates in his 2 book c. ●3 and sozomenus in his 3. book c. 13 do relate the Eustachians errors have been condemn'd by the Fathers of the Council of Gangris which sa●e the year 324. Luther an● Calvins Disciples did embrace this Eustachian error for they threw-down all the convents and monastarves of those Countryes and Provinces wherein they made any conquest 13 All the following here●icks rejected matrimony den●'d it to be a Sacrament as these Fathers do write of their heresie Simon Magus as St Augustin in his book ●e here●ibus c 1. Nicolaites as ●t Epiphanius heresie 25 Titia●us as St. Irenaeus in his first book ●● 31 Ad●miani as St. Augustin ●eresie 31 the Manicheans as St. Augustin heresie 46 the ●usta●hians as socrates in his 2. book ● 33. Marcian as St Hierome in ●is first book against Jovinianus and the Prisillanists as St Leos ●● Epist d●clares the Prisillanists errors were condemn'd by all the following Councils viz by the Council of Caesaragust the year ●8● by the Council of Toleto the year 400 the Council ●f Burdeaux the ●ear 385. and by the Council of Spaine in the year 447 which Coūcils are to be seen ●omo 2 ● Conci●●orum Luther in his book de captivitate cap de matrimoni● Calvin in his 4 book of Institutions c 19. held also that matrimony is no sacrament 14 Iovinianus held that there are no venial sins but that all sins are mortal as St. Hierome relates in his 2 book c 15 16. against Jovinianus and also St. Augustin heresie 28 the Pelagians were of the same opinion as St. Hierome writes in his 2 book against them Jovinianus's errors were condemn'd by the Fathers of the Council of Milan which ●ate
the year 390 tomo secundo Conciliorum and so were the Pelagians errors by the following Councils viz by the Milevian Council the year 416 by the A●ican Council the year 4●8 as ●y be seen tomo 〈◊〉 Conciliorum ●and also b● 〈◊〉 ●ral Council of 〈◊〉 which ●●e the year 43● 〈◊〉 Conci●orum Luther assertione articuli 32 ●alvin in his 2 book of Ins●●u●ons c. 18 and in his 3 book c 4 ●eld likewise that all sins are mor●l 15 Simon Magus and Menander ●eld that Christs true flesh is not ●●lly present in the holy Eu●harist as St. Ignatius declares ●● his Epist to those of Smyrna ●f which Theodoretus makes ●ention in his 3. dialogue other ●●reticks of the Primitive Church held the same as S● Cyrill writes in his Epist to Calosirius Tho' Luther never expre●sl● affirm'd this point of the old he re●●e yet all his Disciples do endeavou● to defend it and so di● Calvin in his book de Caena Domini where he reprehends Luther for not holding it and als● in his 4 book c. 17. 16 Simon Magus held that fait● alone is su●●icient for salvation and consequently that good wo●kes are needless in order to savation as St. Irenaeus in his fir● book c. 20. and Theodoret● de heretic is fabulis do write Eunomius held the same erro● as St. Augustin in his book d● ●eresibus declares c. 54 Luther in his book de libertate ●hristiana and Calvin in his 3. ●ook of Institutions c. 19. held ●o the same error that thereby ●ey might provoke others to be ●ven to all kind of vices as them●lves were 17. The Eunomians held that ●e reliques of Saints ought not ● be ve●erated as Magnes in ●s 4 book against Theostines ●firms and Vigilantius held the ●e error as St. Hierome writes ● his book against Vigilant●us ●ut the Eunomians errors have ●een condemn'd by the ● Coun●il of Rome the year 369. by the ●eneral Council of Constantino●e the year 381 tomo secundo by the Council of Calcedon which sate the year 451 tomo 4. Coūciliorum also by the Council of Constantinople the year 553. tomo 5 Conciliorum Luther in his 〈◊〉 de cruce and in his book de missa abroganda held the same and so did Calvin admonitione de reliquiis 18 Vigilancius affirm'd that it is unlawfull to invocate Saints as St. Hierome writes in his book against Vigilantius's errors Luther in his book de Eucharistia ad Waldenses and Calvin in his 3 book of Institutions c. 20. believ'd and held the same error 19 The Massalians rejected the fast commanded by the Church as St. Epiphani●s heresie 8. and Theodoretus in his 4. book c. 11. do relate the Aerians did the same as St. Augustin declares in his book of heresie c. 33. and so did the Eustachians as St. Epiphanius heresie 75. and Socrates in his 2. book c. 33. do write Calvin in his 4th book of Institutions c. 12 rejected the same which error both his and Luthers Disciples do willingly embrace that théy might indulge their own bodies whilest they are in this world 20 Thë Massalia●s held that holy order is no sacrament as St. Damascenus relates in his ●irst book of haeresie the Massa●ians errors were condemn'd by ●he Fathers of the Council of Syda who sate the year 383. as may be seen Tomo 2. Conciliorum and by a nother Council in the Orient the year 417 Tomo 3. Conciliorum Luther in his book of the Captivity of Babylon cap. de ordine held also that holy order is no Sacrament which error his Disciples do now firmly believe 21 Helvidius raught that the Blesled Virgin Mary bore children to Joseph who were brothers to Iesus Christ as St. Hierome relates in his book against Helvidius's errors which were condemn'd in the Council of Milan the year 390. as may be seen Tomo 2. Conciliorum Calvin ad Caput 1. Lucae affirm'd the same error which several of his followers do now certainly believe 22 Eusebius in his 3. book of history c. 25. and St. Hierome in his book de viris illustribus do make mention of certain hereticks who deny'd the Epist of St. James o● Juda the 2. Epist of St Peter also the 2. 3. of St. John to be canonical Luther in his prologue on these Epist rejects St James and Juda's Epistles and he doubts of the rest to be canonical 23 The Marcionites deny'd the revelations of St. John to be canonical as Tertullian relates in his 3. 4. book against Marcion the Theodotians deny'd the same as St. Epiphanius wri●es here●ie 51. 54. the aforesaid Martion●tes did also deny St. Pauls ●pist ●o the Hebrews to be canonical as St. Hierome declares in his preface on St. Pauls Epist to Ti●us and so did Arius as Theod●retus relates in his preface on St. Pauls Epist to the H●brews Luther in his preface on the old Testament affirms the ●evelation not to be canonical and in his prolog●e on that to the Hebrews he sayes likewise that it is not canonical 24 The Marcionites Basilidians held that all the old Testamēt was apocryphal as St. Irenaeus relates in his book c. 20. 22. 29. the Manicheans held the same as St Epiphanius affirms heresie 66. but the Mani●heans errors were conde●n'd by the General Ephesian Council the year 431. To●o ● Concilioru● and also by the Council of Rome the year 444. which is to be 〈◊〉 in the sa●e Tom● as for th● M●●●i●ni-te●●●●ors they 〈◊〉 b●●n c●demn'd by the Ge●●ral Co●n●il o● Cal●●●o● the 〈…〉 51. ●o●o 4. Conciliorum and by the 〈◊〉 Council of Constan●in●●le the year 553. where also the 〈◊〉 errors were condemn'd as may be seen Tomo 5. Conciliorum Lu●●●r and Calvins Disciples are something milder than the aforesaid hereticks for they do no● 〈…〉 tha● all the old T●stament is apocriphal yet théy deny several books of it to be canonical and chiefly those books which ●vidently do falsifie their own principles If I had not suppos'd that the premisses might sufficiently demonstrate what Doctrines my adversary and the reformers do maintain I wou'd produce several other points of ●old heresies which also they maintain but lest I shu'd be too troublesome to thè reader I will only conclude with the following passage Whosoever maintains or hath for his principles the aforesaid points is lawfully accus'd for maintaining old heresies false and erronious Doctrines confuted by the holy Fathers and lawfully condemn'd by several Coūcils of the Primitive Church but th● pretended reformers do maintain and have for their principles the aforesaid points therefore the pretented reformers are lawfully accus'd for maintaining old heresies false and erronious Doctrines confuted by the holy Fathers and lawfully condemn'd by several Councils of the primitive Church the minor is manifest as for the major ti 's prov'd by what I have already produc'd for certaīly all those holy Fathers and Doctors wou'd not make it their business to reprehend and confut● the chief promoters of