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A42315	The old Roman Catholik, as at first he was taught by Paul, in opposition to the new Roman Catholick, as of latter he is taught by the Pope the one being apostolicall, the other apostaticall : derived and proven only out of the Epistle of Paul to the Romanes : whereunto is added a clear probation that the same also was the doctrine of the primitive bishops of Rome ... discovering to all clearly the apostasie of that church from the ancient Roman fayth and puritie thereof to the noveltie of gross heresie and idolatrie, and sufficient to convince, if not convert, any papist that is not wilfully obdured / by W. Guild.	Guild, William, 1586-1657.	1649 (1649)	Wing G2210; ESTC R30326	38,314	116

thus sayeth GREGORIE Quando non maneret apud eos qui ascensurus erat coelum promitit dicens Ecce ero vobiscum vsque ad consummationem soeculi sed Vcrbum incarnatum manet recedit recedit corpore manet divinitaete apud eos ergo tunc se mansisse perhibet quia qui invisibili semper potestate presens erat corporali jam visione recedebat That is When Hee was not to abyde with them who was to ascend to Heaven Hee promised saying Behold I am with you vnto the worldes end But this incarnate Word Hee both abydeth with vs and is departed from vs Hee is departed in His Bodie but Hee abydeth in His Deitie Hee sayd therefore that Hee should abyde with them Because by His invisible power Hee was ever present who in His corporall presence was to depart out of their sight As also That the Bread in the Sacrament of the Supper remayneth still in its former substance after Consecration POPE GELASIUS clearly doth testtifie saying Certè Sacramenta quae sumimus Corporis Sanguinis CHRISTI divina res est propter quod divinae per eundem efficimur consortes naturae tamen esse non desinit substantia vel natura Panis Vini c. That is Surelie the Sacrament of CHRISTS Bodie and Blood which wee take is a Divine thing Because wee are made partakers there-in of the Divine Nature And yet not-with-standing The Substance or Nature of Bread and Wyne departeth not or leaveth not off to remayn CHAP. X. Agaynst with-holding of the Cup from the People or Half-Communion CONCERNING this thus sayeth GREGORIE Quid sit Sanguis Agni non jam audiendo sed bibendo didicistis And agayn Ejus Sanguis non jam in manus fidelium sed in ora fidelium infunditur That is What the Blood of the Lamb is yee haue learned now not by hearing there-of but by Drinking the same And this His Blood is not given into the handes of the Faythfull Communicants but it is Powred in into their mouthes Also thus sayeth POPE IULIUS Ubi Apostolus corpus sanguinem commendavit seorsim Panis seorsim Calicis commendatio memoratur Last of all sayeth POPE GELASIUS Comperimus quod quidam sumpta tantummodo corporis sacri portione à Calice Sacri cruoris abstineant qui proculdubio quoniam nescio qua superstitione docentur obstringi aut integra Sacramenta percipiant aut ab integris arceantur quia divisio vnius ejusdemque mysterii sine grandi sacrilegio non potest provenire That is sayth IULIUS Where the Apostle recommendeth the Bodie and Blood of CHRIST to bee taken Hee mentioneth the taking of the Bread apart by it selff And the taking of the Cup in lyke manner apart by it selff not having known then Popish Concomitance Also wee fynd sayeth GELASIUS That there are some who take onlie a part of the Sacred Body of CHRIST but abstayneth from the Cup of His Sacred Blood who truelie because ● know not by what superstition they are bound vp and taught so Therefore they must either receaue the whole Sacrament or bee debarred from the whole Because the division of one and the same mystery can not bee without the commtiting of a great Sacriledge FINIS A TABLE Of the Controversies contained in this Treatise I. Of SCRIPTURE Where-in 1. THat the Apocrypha books are not Canonicall Scripture Pag. 29. and 75 2. That People should not be debarred from reading the Scriptures 30. and 77 3. That the Authority of the Church is not aboue the Scriptures 31 4. That the Scripture is perfect without vnwritten Traditions 32. and 76 II. Of the CHURCH Where-in 1. THat the Holy Catholik Church is only of the Elect. Pag. 33. and 79 2. That the Church of true Professours is not ever and alyke conspicuous 34. 3. That True Doctrine is the Essentiall Note of the True Church 35 4. That Unitie except in Trueth is no Note thereof Pag. 36 5. That Multitude is no Note thereof 37 6. That the Church of Rome may erre 38 7. That Separation from Her is no Schism 39 III. Of the Head of the Church Where-in 1. THat CHRIST is only the Head and Husband there-of Pag. 40. and 81 2. That the Pope as Bishop of Rome is not Peters Successour 41 3. That the Pope ought to be subject to the Civill Magistrate 43. and 88 4. That CHRIST only and not the Pope is that Rock whereon the Church is built 78 IV. Of the Churches worship Where-in 1. THat GOD only is to be invocated Pag. 44 2. That CHRIST is our only Mediatour 46 3. That all Images of the godhead are idolatrous 47 4. That no Image is to be bowed vnto nor worshipped 48. and 93 5. That the worship of Dulia or Service is due to GOD only 49 V. Of the Churches true doctrine Where-in 1. OF Sinne That Concupiscence in the Godly is sinne properly Pag. 5● 2. That no Sinne is Veniall But all Mortall 5● 3. That the Virgin Mary was not conceave● without Sinne 5● 4. Of Election That it is not for fore-seen Fayth or Works 53 5. Of our Calling That there are no Merits of Congruity 53 6. That in our first conversion we haue no Free-will 54. and 95 7. Of Iustification That it is by Fayth only 55 and 97 8. That Iustifying Fayth is not an vncertayn conjecture 56 9. Of the certaynty of Salvation agaynst Popish doubting 58 10. That no Implicite Fayth sayeth 59 11. Of Sanctification That no man can perfectly keep GODS Law Let be Supererogate 60. and 99 12. Of Glorification That Good works are not meritorious of Eternall Lyff 61. and 103 13. That there are no Satisfactory Penall Works in this lyff 62. and 101 14. Neither any Satisfactory Sufferings after this lyff Pag. 36 15. Of Perseverance That the Sayncts can not totally finally fall away 64 16. Of Meats That none are to be abstayned from for conscience sake 65 VI Of the Sacraments Where-in 1. THat Sacraments conferre not Grace ex opere operato Pag. 66 2. That Baptism is not absolutely necessary to Salvation 67 3. That in the LORDS SUPPER there is no Transsubstantiation 69. and 106 4. That the Mass is no Propitiatory Sacrifice 71 5. That the Cup should not be with-holden from the people 107 VII Of PURGATORIE THat there is no Fyre of Purgatorie after this lyff Pag. 72. and 105 FINIS ERRATA Pag. lin. for reade 11 1 it it it is 42 14 that can that he can 65 13 judge him not judge him 80 19 within without 88 4 Pope hath hath not 100   responderi respondere Rev. 17. 4 Rev. 13. 11. Isai. 1. 20 Math. 19 8. Iude 3. 4. Ier. 6. 16. 1. King 1● 21. Greg. l. 4. regist. epist. 39. Platina in vita Bonifacii 3. Card. Cus l. 1. de Cōcordan cathol. c. 15. Amb. cath in Gal. 2. Lyra in Mat. 16. Erasm. in 1. Cor. 7. Consil.

rather to bee a Protestants speach of Rome now-a-days than Ieroms words of Rome in his tyme To whom I wil adjoyn amongst many others but one of latter tymes that famous Florentine and so much extolled Petrarcha who lived in the 1300 year of CHRIST and who out of experience speaketh thus of Rome wryting to his Freind saying Behold now thou seest with thyne eyes groapest with thyne hands what a Citie this last spoken of Babylon is hot and burning in Lust c. And therafter there thou maist see a people not only an enemy to CHRIST but which is worss vnder the Banner of Christian Profession rebelling agaynst CHRIST militating for Satan drunk with the blood of the Members of CHRIST for what I pray thee is not dayly done amongst these enemyes of CHRIST the Pharesees of our tymes For do they not here on earth buy and sell and make merchandise of CHRIST Himself whose Name night and day they with high prayses extoll whom in His images they cloathe with Purple and Gold decketh with precious stones and whom they salute and worship and yet they blyndfold as it were the same CHRIST as if Hee could not see they crown Him with the thorns of their ill gotten goods they pollute Him with the spittinges of their most vnclean mouth with their viperous mockings they persecute Him they pearce Him agayn with the speare of their poysonable actions and so farre as in them lyeth sayeth hee mocked naked poor whipped they draw Him agayn to Calvaerie and by a wicked conspiracie they crucifie Him over agayn O shame O grief O indignitie Of such men consisteh Rome this day as I haue sayd Where Iudas himself shall bee admitted if hee bring with him the thirtie pieces of silver the pryce of blood and poor CHRIST shall be thrust out of doors which thing to bee notourlie true there is no Christian but may know and yet none lamenteth it and none revengeth CHRISTS quarrell And where the head thereof the Pope acteth not sayeth he the part of an Apostolick but of a robber nor is famous for signes of vertue or miracles but for militarie ensigns and is stored with threatning legions as if thou wouldest think him another Hanniball nor a successour of PETER With which Petrarcha notably jumpeth also Platinae the Popes own Secretarie speaking of the Popes and Romane Clergie in the lyf of Marcellinus Gregory the fourth and Paull the second where he sayeth That by Envy Pryde and Malice they exercysed rather Tyrannie nor the Office of Priesthood altogether having forgotten Christianitie and prophaning holy mysterie And vnto whom I could adjoyn a cloud of mo witnesses of their own most famous wryters as Baptista Mantuanus de calamitatibus temporum Nicolaus Clemangis de corrupto Ecclesiae statu Marsilius Patavinus in his Defensor Pacis AEneas Sylvius Afterward Pope by the name of Pius secundus in his Epistolae familiares and of late Claudius Espencaeus a Spanish Bishop and others But what hath bene adduced may bee sufficient to such who without a prejudice agaynst Trueth haue not wedded themselues so to Errour that lyke Babell they will not be cured being so inebriated with that bewitching cup of the Filthiness of the Whores Fornications that as the Apostle sayeth GOD hath sent them strong delusion to belieue a lie because they would not receaue the loue of the trueth that they may be saved But as for others concerning whom the LORD hath a purpose in Mercie to call out of Babell as he had to Abraham whom hee called from idolatrous Ur of the Chaldees I doubt not but such following the Berean practise without prejudice wil yeeld an obedient ear to hear and heart to belieue that Ancient Roman Fayth which they fynd so clearly set down in Scripture and especially that Epistle written to the Romanes that so they may bee truely esteemed Catholick and Apostolick Romanes indeed and no more followers of that Beast horned lyke the LAMB but who speaketh lyke the Dragon to their own perdition And as for vs to whom the LORD hath revealed His Trueth and preserved from the deceavableness of Errour as the Apostle speaketh we are bound alwayes to prayse the LORD That Hee hath chosen vs from the beginning vnto Salvation thorow Sanctification of the Spirit and Belief of the Trueth wherevnto He hath called vs by the Gospell of CHRIST Of the which Blessing the LORD grant wee may walk worthie adorning our Profession by an holy lyff to the Glory of GOD good example of others and the Salvation of our own soules in the day of our account AMEN The Old Roman Catholik Religion taught to them by PAULL In opposition to The New Roman Catholik Religion taught them by the Pope The one beeing APOSTOLICALL the other Apostaticall CHAP. I. OF SCRIPTURE SECTION 1. That the Apocrypha books are not Canonicall Scripture ROM. 3. 2. Vnto them to wit the Iewes were committed the Oracles of GOD That is as all expound the Canonicall Scriptures of the Old Testament which CHRIST comprehendeth only in Moses and the Prophets wrytings Luke 24. 27. of whom Malachi was the last But vnto them were never committed these Books as the Oracles of GOD or Canonicall Scripture which are called Apocrypha nor were they ever acknowledged by the Iewes to be such as Bellarmine and others confesseth being written after Malachi who was the last of the Prophets as is already sayd Therefore it followeth That these Books are not Canonick Scripture Whence it is That Ierom sayd in his tyme The Church indeed readeth these Books sayeth he but receaveth them not amongst Canonicall Scriptures 2. That people should not be debarred from reading of the Scriptures ROM. 15. 4. What-so-ever things were written aforetyme were written for our instruction that wee through patience and comfort of the Scriptures may haue hope Whence it followeth If the Scriptures were written for the instruction of all Christians and that they may attayn by them to Patience Comfort and Hope that therefore for this end they should bee read and perused by them But so it is That they were written as sayeth this Text for that end Therefore for the same end they should bee read by GODS people and perused diligently Agayn Rom. 1. 7. The Apostle directeth his Epistle To all that bee in Rome sayeth hee beloved of GOD called to be Saincts Whence it followeth If the Apostle directeth his Epistle as a part of divyne Scripture To all Christians in common that were at Rome Therefore that all such were permitted to reade the same and consequently that no Christian should bee debarred from reading holy Scripture Wherefore sayeth Chrysostom say not that it is the part only of religious persons to reade the Scriptures for it is the part of every Christian so to do 3. That the Authoritie of the Church is not aboue the Scriptures ROM. 11. 32. It is sayd That GOD concluded them all vnder the

of David according to the flesh Whence it followeth If CHRISTS Body or flesh is made only once of the seed of David that it is absurd therefore and contrary to Scripture that His body or flesh is only made by Transsubstantiation of the seed of wheat or substance of bread in the holy Sacrament and that this Transsubstantiation is as it were CHRISTS second birth or begetting as the late Iesuits affirm For so sayeth Cornelius à lapide on Isai 7. 14. By the words of Consecration as the bread is truely really transsubstantiate sayth hee so CHRIST is brought forth and as it were begotten vpon the Altar as powerfully and effectually as if CHRIST were not as yet incarnate Therefore sayeth hee The Priest is as the Virgin that bare Him the Altar is the Manger and the little Emmanuell which hee beareth is CHRIST brought forth vnder the little hostie A most monstrous and blasphemous speach whereby they will haue CHRIST not once but daylie to bee born not of the substance of the Virgin but of the substance of bread and His body not once but daylie also to bee broken and His blood shed in their idolatrous Mass. Whereas on the contrary agreeable to Scripture sayeth Theodoret and with him Pope Gelasius The mysticall signs departeth not from their own nature but remayn sayeth hee in their former substance form and figure and may bee seen and touched as they were before Rom. 8. 34. Who is hee that condemneth It is CHRIST that died yea rather that is risen agayn who is even at the Right Hand of GOD c. And as the Apostle teacheth Act. 3. 21. Whom the Heavens must contayn till the last day or restitution of all things If CHRISTS Body then wherein Hee died and rose agayn sitteth now at the Right Hand of GOD glorified in the Heavens till Hee come agayn from thence at the Last Day It followeth therefore that the Body of CHRIST is not by transsubstantiation every-where on earth between the Priests fingers in the Mass or between the teeth of the people to bee chewed in the Sacrament as is affirmed in the Popes Decretall * Wherefore when Hee was on earth Hee was not then in Heaven sayeth Vigilius and with him Fulgentius and now being in Heaven Hee is not to bee had on earth 4. That the Mass is not Propitiarie Sacrifice ROM. 6. 9. 10. Knowing that CHRIST being raysed from the dead dieth no more death hath no more dominion over Him for in that Hee died Hee died to sinne once But in that Hee liveth Hee liveth vnto GOD Seeing then that CHRIST died but once and dieth no more and that this His death was that onlie Propitiatorie Sacrifice once for ever offered on the Cross never to bee reiterated as wee are clearly taught Hbr. 9. 25. and 10. 14. Therefore it followeth That there is no Propitiatorie Sacrifice offered vp in the Mass but only a commemoration in the Sacrament of CHRISTS Death and Passion Wherefore sayeth Eusebius and with him Ambrose After that CHRIST had offered vp that admirable and excellent Sacrifice to His Father for the Salvation of all Hee instituted sayeth hee that wee should still offer vp the Rememberance of that Benefit in place of a Sacrifice to GOD But not as any Propitiatorie Sacrifice properly it selff CHAP. VII Of PURGATORIE That there is no such Place whether the Souls of the Godly go after this lyff ROM. 8. 1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in CHRIST IESUS If therefore there bee no condemnation at all then after death when they are pronounced presentlie blessed and resteth from their labours they are not condemned to any Hellish and Tormenting Purgatorie Agayn Rom. 8. 33. Who shall lay any thing to the charge of GODS Elect It is GOD that justifieth And who is hee that condemneth It is CHRIST that died yea rather that is risen agayn who is even at the Right Hand of GOD and maketh intercession for vs Remark then That agaynst any thing that may bee layed to the charge of the Elect for which they may bee condemned after this lyff to any such Hellish Place or Punishment as Purgatorie there are three powerfull thinges opposed 1. GODS justifying them by a full and free Remission of all their sinnes what-so-ever and consequently from any such Hellish Punishment of them here-after 2. CHRISTS Death or Blood-shed which as Iohn testifieth purgeth vs from all Sinne and 3. CHRISTS Intercession in the Heavens which is sufficientlie powerfull to saue the Souls of His Elect after this lyf from any such fyrie Torment Wherefore sayeth Iustin Martyr After the departure of the Soull from the bodie presently is made a distinction between the good and the bad For they are carried to the Places whereof they are worthie The Souls of the Godly by the Angels being carried to Paradise where the company and sight of Angels and Archangels is as also the sight of CHRIST our SAVIOUR according to these words whill wee are absent from the body we are present with the Lord But the souls of the wicked sayeth hee are carried to Hell FINIS The Doctrine of the Primitiue Bishops of Rome whill the Faithful City became not an Harlor and her Pastours Impostours And especially the Doctrine of GREGORIE the first who lived fyue hundreth years after CHRIST is called by them for his Vertue and Learning GREGORIE THE GREAT CHAP. I. Of Scripture And 1. That the Maccabees and other Apocrypha books are not Canonicall GREGORIE speaking of the Probation of a poynt out of the Maccabees sayeth thus De qua nō inordinate agimus si ex libris etsi non canonicis sed tamen ad aedificationem Ecclesiae editis testimonium proferamus That is Of which matter wee do not disorderlie if we bring a testimonie out of these books which albeit they are not canonicall yet are set forth for the edifying of the Church And that this was the judgement and fayth of the whole Western Christian Church before and at that tyme Ierom declareth saying Hos libros legit quidem Ecclesia sed inter canonicas scripturas non recipit That is The Church indeed readeth these bookes but receaveth them not amongst Canonicall Scriptures 2. That the Scriptures without doctrinall Traditions are all sufficient for instruction of Fayth and Manners WHerein thus sayeth Gregorie In hoc volumine Omnia quae crudiunt Cuncta quae aedificant continentur That is In this Book of Scripture all things that are for instruction and all things that are for edification are contayned But as for dogmaticall traditions S●pè heretici sayeth hee dum sua student perversa astruere ea proferunt quae in sacrorum librorum paginis non continentur That is Often tymes Hereticks whyle as they endeavour to build vp their perverss doctrines they produce thinges which in the Books of Sacred Scripture are no wyse contayned 3.