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A01325 A retentiue, to stay good Christians, in true faith and religion, against the motiues of Richard Bristow Also a discouerie of the daungerous rocke of the popish Church, commended by Nicholas Sander D. of Diuinitie. Done by VVilliam Fulke Doctor of diuinitie, and Maister of Pembroke hall in Cambridge. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1580 (1580) STC 11449; ESTC S102732 222,726 326

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the_o true_a christian_n &_o the_o arrian_n but_o that_o the_o scripture_n only_o be_v of_o sufficient_a authority_n to_o confute_v heresy_n augustine_n declare_v even_o against_o the_o same_o maximinus_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 14._o sed_fw-la nun●_n nec_fw-la ego_fw-la niccnum_n etc._n etc._n but_o now_o must_v not_o i_o bring_v forth_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a nor_o thou_o the_o council_n of_o ariminum_n to_o make_v any_o prejudice_n but_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n not_o be_v proper_a to_o either_o but_o common_a witness_n to_o we_o both_o let_v matter_n contend_v with_o matter_n cause_n with_o cause_n reason_n with_o reason_n likewise_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n bishop_n say_v unto_o the_o donatist_n in_o the_o conference_n of_o carthage_n si_fw-mi tantummodo_fw-la id_fw-la qu._n crerctur_n qu●_n vel_fw-la rbi_fw-la esset_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la nihil_fw-la se_fw-la acturos_fw-la publicis_fw-la gestis_fw-la sed_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la divinarum_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la
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popish_a king_n may_v not_o command_v his_o chaplayne_n to_o say_v mass_n or_o to_o say_v his_o mass_n reverent_o and_o orderly_o as_o the_o law_n of_o popery_n do_v require_v if_o he_o may_v command_v over_o though_o e_z matter_n which_o yet_o he_o may_v not_o do_v himself_o let_v m._n saunder_n see_v how_o his_o rule_n hold_v that_o whosoever_o have_v authority_n in_o any_o matter_n may_v do_v all_o thing_n himself_o which_o any_o of_o his_o inferior_n may_v do_v or_o which_o he_o may_v command_v to_o be_v do_v whereupon_o he_o conclude_v that_o the_o king_n have_v no_o right_a or_o supreme_a power_n at_o all_o in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n unless_o it_o be_v commit_v to_o he_o from_o the_o bishop_n so_o that_o a_o king_n if_o he_o be_v a_o bishop_n commissary_n may_v do_v that_o by_o m._n sanders_n exception_n w_o c_o nether_a by_o commandment_n of_o god_n nor_o his_o kingly_a power_n he_o have_v authority_n to_o do_v another_o argument_n he_o bring_v as_o good_a as_o this_o that_o the_o lesser_a authority_n do_v not_o comprehend_v the_o great_a and_o therefore_o m_n horn_n must_v answer_v he_o whether_o to_o preach_v baptize_v forgive_v sin_n etc._n etc._n be_v great_a or_o lesser_a ministry_n than_o the_o king_n authority_n if_o it_o be_v great_a then_o it_o can_v not_o be_v comprehend_v in_o the_o king_n authority_n which_o be_v lesser_a what_o that_o reverend_a father_n the_o bishop_n of_o winchester_n have_v answer_v it_o may_v be_v see_v in_o his_o book_n against_o m._n feckenham_n but_o to_o talk_v with_o you_o m._n saunder_n what_o if_o i_o grant_v that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a ministry_n be_v not_o comprehend_v in_o the_o king_n authority_n will_v you_o thereupon_o infer_v that_o the_o king_n authority_n be_v not_o to_o command_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n in_o these_o matter_n to_o do_v their_o duty_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o deed_n you_o conclude_v so_o but_o your_o argument_n be_v naught_o for_o the_o king_n be_v god_n 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2._o or_o in_o that_o deed_n he_o be_v not_o good_a 3._o or_o he_o do_v it_o by_o commission_n from_o a_o prophet_n or_o a_o high_a priest_n 4._o or_o he_o be_v deceive_v by_o flatterer_n 5._o or_o he_o be_v enforce_v by_o necessity_n but_o all_o these_o quarrel_n notwithstanding_o the_o example_n of_o scripture_n be_v so_o many_o and_o so_o plain_a that_o m._n sanders_n ●●angling_v can_v not_o obscure_v they_o david_n a_o good_a prince_n do_v well_o in_o appoint_v the_o levit_n and_o priest_n to_o their_o several_a office_n and_o forbid_v the_o levit_n to_o carry_v the_o ark_n and_o the_o vessel_n thereof_o without_o any_o commission_n from_o priest_n or_o prophet_n but_o only_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n not_o deceive_v by_o flatterer_n nor_o enforce_v by_o necessity_n 1._o chron._n 23
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