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be_v offend_v with_o not_o sing_v which_o he_o affirm_v to_o be_v no_o small_a peccadillio_fw-la so_o neither_o sing_n nor_o say_n please_v they_o what_o then_o be_v best_a for_o they_o forsooth_o silence_n that_o any_o do_v offend_v in_o this_o point_n when_o he_o be_v put_v to_o it_o he_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o justify_v article_n 18_o the_o name_n of_o the_o communicant_n before_o they_o receive_v shall_v be_v signify_v to_o the_o curate_n yet_o this_o be_v not_o regard_v in_o most_o place_n answer_n that_o be_v not_o the_o curate_n fault_n but_o rather_o of_o those_o that_o shall_v signify_v it_o if_o any_o be_v let_v the_o communicant_n therefore_o signify_v their_o name_n the_o curate_n to_o please_v his_o mastership_n shall_v be_v always_o ready_a to_o open_v their_o ear_n which_o notwithstanding_o will_v not_o make_v for_o the_o libeler_n advantage_n for_o if_o his_o name_n be_v bring_v he_o will_v be_v undoubted_o repel_v for_o a_o uncharitable_a person_n unfit_a to_o 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repel_v both_o from_o the_o communion_n and_o all_o honest_a man_n society_n be_v enemy_n of_o learning_n and_o scandale_n of_o religion_n article_n 20_o the_o minister_n shall_v use_v the_o ornament_n appoint_v by_o king_n edward_n answer_n and_o do_v he_o not_o so_o if_o any_o do_v otherwise_o it_o be_v of_o the_o factious_a sort_n that_o deserve_v punishment_n but_o say_v the_o libeller_n the_o clerk_n do_v also_o wear_v a_o surplice_n as_o if_o it_o follow_v because_o the_o clerk_n wear_v a_o surplice_n that_o the_o minister_n do_v not_o all_o like_a as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v conclude_v because_o giles_n wiggington_n have_v some_o little_a wit_n that_o this_o libeller_n have_v none_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o law_n be_v that_o such_o ornament_n shall_v be_v use_v as_o be_v appoint_v by_o king_n edward_n where_o other_o order_n shall_v not_o be_v take_v for_o late_a law_n abridge_v the_o former_a if_o then_o the_o accuser_n can_v show_v that_o law_n be_v not_o herein_o observe_v he_o shall_v do_v we_o great_a favour_n to_o name_v the_o offender_n article_n 21_o in_o cathedral_n church_n the_o communion_n shall_v be_v ministredevery_n sunday_n at_o the_o least_o answer_n if_o often_o communion_n be_v commendable_a then_o be_v our_o church_n to_o be_v prefer_v before_o that_o of_o geneva_n that_o communicate_v only_o quarterly_a better_o therefore_o it_o be_v for_o malice_n to_o keep_v silence_n then_o to_o say_v that_o which_o be_v nothing_o let_v he_o if_o he_o can_v detect_v those_o that_o be_v culpable_a article_n 22_o the_o godfather_n do_v not_o their_o duty_n neither_o do_v bishop_n urge_v they_o answer_n let_v he_o show_v that_o bishop_n may_v do_v it_o by_o law_n and_o then_o reprove_v they_o for_o not_o do_v their_o duty_n if_o it_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o conscience_n of_o godfather_n to_o do_v their_o duty_n why_o shall_v the_o bishop_n be_v charge_v with_o other_o man_n fault_n forsooth_o this_o libeller_n mean_v to_o lay_v all_o fault_n on_o the_o bishop_n back_n i_o will_v to_o god_n for_o my_o part_n there_o be_v no_o fault_n but_o in_o bishop_n so_o far_o be_o i_o from_o envy_v any_o man_n purity_n but_o this_o purity_n i_o fear_v be_v but_o hypocrisy_n for_o many_o puritan_n mislike_v godfather_n and_o be_v very_o impure_a in_o life_n and_o conversation_n article_n 23_o bishop_n be_v command_v to_o confirm_v child_n yet_o few_o do_v it_o answer_n the_o puritan_n common_o deride_v confirmation_n albeit_o a_o most_o ancient_a and_o christian_a ceremony_n this_o fellow_n charge_v bishop_n with_o a_o great_a fault_n for_o omit_v it_o how_o will_v these_o agree_v nay_o how_o will_v this_o companion_n verify_v his_o assertion_n be_v most_o untrue_a but_o if_o any_o bishop_n do_v not_o confirm_v child_n it_o be_v because_o certain_a factious_a person_n have_v persuade_v the_o people_n to_o refuse_v it_o and_o that_o very_o wicked_o not_o only_o fantastical_o article_n 24_o curate_n do_v not_o instruct_v servant_n and_o youth_n upon_o holiday_n answer_n causeless_a do_v this_o accuser_n bark_v against_o curate_n see_v he_o can_v charge_v any_o particular_a if_o he_o can_v let_v he_o call_v he_o before_o his_o superior_n the_o exercise_n be_v good_a and_o godly_a neither_o do_v any_o account_n it_o tyranny_n to_o instruct_v the_o ignorant_a but_o sure_a great_a presumption_n it_o be_v for_o young_a puritan_n public_o to_o examine_v grave_a and_o discreet_a man_n that_o know_v more_o than_o themselves_o and_o indiscretion_n to_o use_v examination_n as_o the_o disciplinarian_n will_v have_v it_o use_v article_n 25_o none_n shall_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o communion_n that_o can_v say_v the_o catechism_n therefore_o curate_n shall_v examine_v communicant_n and_o seelude_v they_o that_o be_v want_v in_o knowledge_n answer_n can_v you_o show_v any_o curate_n that_o have_v not_o do_v their_o duty_n herein_o if_o you_o can_v carry_v they_o before_o the_o ordinary_a they_o crave_v no_o favour_n in_o the_o mean_a 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the_o law_n as_o in_o this_o case_n the_o law_n will_v have_v bane_n three_o several_a day_n proclaim_v that_o no_o dispensation_n be_v grant_v the_o law_n have_v not_o wherefore_o see_v dispensation_n be_v confirm_v by_o law_n and_o not_o take_v away_o by_o this_o rubric_n let_v the_o accuser_n hold_v his_o peace_n and_o cease_v to_o proclaim_v his_o own_o folly_n and_o to_o work_v the_o bane_n of_o his_o cause_n and_o final_o while_o he_o will_v show_v skill_n in_o law_n to_o prove_v himself_o devoyde_a of_o law_n and_o reason_n article_n 27_o the_o party_n present_v to_o the_o bishop_n shall_v wear_v a_o plain_a albe_n yet_o this_o garment_n be_v not_o use_v answer_n in_o the_o book_n of_o order_v minister_n there_o be_v no_o such_o garment_n appoint_v and_o if_o it_o be_v yet_o be_v it_o no_o such_o disorder_n as_o this_o charitable_a man_n make_v it_o that_o will_v have_v the_o bishop_n thrust_v out_o of_o their_o live_n yea_o out_o of_o the_o church_n for_o commit_v it_o but_o suppose_v deacon_n shall_v wear_v a_o albe_n how_o be_v the_o neglect_n of_o it_o ascribe_v to_o bishop_n and_o not_o rather_o to_o the_o party_n that_o know_v not_o his_o duty_n or_o of_o new_a curiosity_n that_o can_v abide_v none_o apparel_n but_o of_o the_o genevian_a fashion_n will_v this_o libeller_n be_v a_o yellow_a cote_n it_o will_v become_v he_o better_o than_o a_o albe_n article_n 28_o the_o deacon_n by_o part_n of_o his_o office_n aught_o to_o search_v for_o the_o poor_a sick_a and_o impotent_a of_o the_o parish_n and_o intimate_v their_o estate_n to_o the_o curate_n but_o now_o the_o office_n be_v account_v mere_a spiritual_a answer_n he_o ought_v only_o to_o do_v it_o where_o he_o be_v so_o appoint_a which_o clause_n this_o accuser_n mean_v no_o good_a truth_n cautelous_o leave_v out_o that_o he_o shall_v only_o attend_v the_o poor_a and_o
sick_a can_v be_v prove_v either_o by_o scripture_n or_o father_n in_o geneva_n the_o deaconship_n be_v turn_v into_o a_o vain_a office_n of_o proctorship_n for_o the_o poor_a manage_v by_o man_n of_o base_a trade_n why_o then_o do_v he_o accuse_v other_o that_o be_v guilty_a himself_n article_n 29_o the_o deacon_n must_v read_v the_o gospel_n in_o the_o day_n of_o his_o ordination_n put_v on_o a_o tunicle_n but_o this_o vesture_n be_v scarce_o know_v at_o this_o day_n answer_n the_o book_n of_o ordain_v of_o minister_n print_v anno_fw-la 1559._o and_o confirm_v by_o parliament_n have_v no_o such_o matter_n and_o therefore_o unless_o he_o can_v show_v his_o author_n for_o his_o tunicle_n let_v he_o wear_v the_o tunicle_n together_o with_o his_o four_o elbowed_a jacket_n himself_o but_o admit_v some_o piece_n of_o apparel_n be_v omit_v in_o deacons_n yet_o be_v the_o fault_n not_o great_a nor_o to_o be_v ascribe_v to_o any_o but_o to_o those_o that_o commit_v the_o same_o article_n 30_o the_o bishop_n at_o the_o ordination_n of_o minister_n do_v tell_v they_o the_o weight_n of_o their_o charge_n and_o what_o labour_n they_o ought_v to_o take_v yet_o most_o of_o they_o be_v never_o resident_a answer_n if_o they_o labour_v not_o as_o they_o shall_v do_v let_v they_o be_v punish_v if_o they_o be_v absent_a for_o lawful_a cause_n and_o at_o time_n why_o be_v they_o more_o blame_v than_o the_o skittish_a puritan_fw-gr that_o notwithstanding_o their_o charge_n be_v like_o malcontent_n and_o mutinous_a person_n still_o wander_v up_o and_o down_o to_o place_n where_o they_o have_v nought_o to_o do_v rather_o to_o trouble_v the_o state_n then_o to_o edify_v the_o church_n and_o rather_o hinder_v other_o labour_n by_o spread_v of_o false_a doctrine_n and_o novelty_n then_o help_v by_o teach_v faith_n and_o manner_n article_n 31_o the_o law_n will_v have_v they_o give_v themselves_o to_o their_o function_n yet_o many_o attend_v civil_a and_o worldly_a affair_n answer_n if_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n be_v so_o repugnant_a as_o be_v pretend_v why_o do_v minister_n govern_v their_o family_n or_o college_n or_o what_o have_v t._n cartw._n to_o meddle_v with_o the_o charge_n of_o his_o hospital_n a_o matter_n mere_a civil_a and_o wherein_o he_o have_v do_v more_o good_a then_o in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n for_o he_o have_v bestir_v himself_o so_o that_o what_o by_o reward_n what_o by_o avail_v of_o his_o hospital_n and_o pinch_v those_o that_o be_v commit_v to_o his_o charge_n and_o what_o by_o buy_v and_o sell_v the_o man_n be_v grow_v fat_a and_o rich_a of_o his_o ministry_n we_o see_v no_o fruit_n but_o contention_n and_o trouble_n percase_o he_o will_v say_v he_o be_v no_o minister_n but_o why_o then_o do_v he_o meddle_v with_o the_o minister_n office_n like_o to_o he_o be_v his_o follower_n man_n very_o stir_v and_o busy_a in_o all_o matter_n of_o state_n howsoever_o this_o man_n mislike_v they_o therein_o contrariwise_o for_o subject_n to_o 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