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A64356	The difference betwixt the Protestant and Socinian methods in answer to a book written by a Romanist, and intituled, The Protestant's plea for a Socinian.	Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715.	1687 (1687)	Wing T694; ESTC R10714	38,420	66

THE DIFFERENCE Betwixt the PROTESTANT AND Socinian Methods In ANSWER to a BOOK Written by a ROMANIST and Intituled The Protestants Plea for a Socinian LICENSED Decemb. 14. 1686. Printed for Benjamin Tooke at the Sign of the Ship in St. Paul's Church-yard 1687. THE Introduction THE Author of a late little Book which bears the Title of Seek and you shall find does both in his own Name and in the Name of many Sincere Persons make open complaint of the Licentiousness of the Press If he means by those Persons such as are so Sincere in their Credulity that they mixt not one grain of reasonable Inquiry with it the Complaint will give no pain to judicious People unless it be by moving them to pity his Weakness And a Man would imagine that his ●…ort of Sincere People were so purely Credulous seeing the Justice of the complaint is on the side of the Reformed This lesser matter puts me in mind of a greater yet of a like Nature in the Circumcellions one of those Branches into which the Faction which sprang from Donatus was divided They went about doing injury to the Christians from whom they had made a causeless Separation and when their Incivilities were by those whom they had provoked turn'd upon them they took the confidence to call themselves Martyrs But certainly those who are the illegal Aggressors deserve the Blame Those who send the Challenge are the Litentious rather than the modest Accepters And when Truth and Innocency are assaulted such as Honour them and have interest in them ought to do some just thing in their necessary defence and if need be draw their Pens in their Service Provided that it be done as I think by our Churchmen it has been generally done in a way consistent with decency of Manners and publick Peace If therefore there appear amongst the Romanists Misrepresenters and crafty Softners and Colourers of their own Doctrine True and Faithful Representers are not unreasonably Officious when they enter upon the Stage and take off the Disguise If Artificial Expositions are imposed and set to Sale in our own Language upon every Stall it is very proper for such as are Friends to Sincerity to take upon them the Office of True Expounders and to convince the World that such Sweetners of the Doctrines of the Synod of Trent have not declared what those Doctrines are but what in their Opinion they ought to be or by what turns of Wit they may be fenced against the Arguments of Reformed Catholiques If any Man thinks fit not only to Preach but to Publish in this Nation a Sermon of St. Peter and in that Sermon to reproach all Churches besides the Roman as New Trimmed Vessels Leaky at the Bottom and unable to carry those who Sail in them to the Haven it cannot be a Crime to set forth a Discourse on the same Subject without any reflexion either on such a Person or his Performance and to shew the true Sense of Thou art Peter and the safety of our Communion and the Soundness of our Bottom whilst some are in a Vessel which has suffer'd so many Alterations and Additions that it cannot be call'd the same Ship it was when St. Peter was in it Again if such Guides in Controversy offer themselves as lead Men out of the way and turn them round in an endless Circle the Direction of honest Guides is a debt which they owe to Truth and Charity If Men in Books in Pulpits in Conversation shall daily ask the question Where is the Protestant's Judge they ought to esteem it a Civility in others when they give them a full Answer about a Iudge in Controversy And if Men of like Perswasion revile this Church as the Schismatical party of Donatus it is out of decency and not want of ability that Men do not give them an Irene for their Lucilla In the mean time they have a Substantial Answer though not so sharp a Rebuke as their bold uncharitableness justly merited Last of all If a Romanist accuseth the Church of England as a Patroness of the Heresie of Socinus though not with a direct and downright charge yet from the consequence of her Methods common Duty to so Good and Venerable a Mother constraineth her Sons to appear in her Vindication and to shew that her Plea is very widely mistaken If she pleads for Arians Socinians or any other Faction of Men who have departed from the true Faith she does it no otherwise than in the Words of her Litany In that Pious Office she beseecheth God to bring into the way of Truth all such as have erred and are deceived And may God abundantly favour her Charitable Petition By such Considerations as these I have at last been moved to write an Answer to the Book which the Author is pleas'd to call The Protestants Plea for a Socinian and to make that Answer publick But I must acknowledge that upon other Accounts the Diversion which this Answer has given me has been very unwelcom As unwelcom as the trouble was to those of old time who when they were employ'd in offering Sacrifice were forc'd to turn aside and drive away from the Altar the greedy Fowls and the impertinent Flies Now in this Answer I shall for Order-sake and that I may proceed distinctly reduce what I purpose to say to certain Heads and they are these three which follow I. Observations touching the Book itself its Edition Character and design II. Considerations relating to the General Argument of it by which it may appear to be of no real force against the Plea of the Reformed III. Particular Answers to the Particular Parts of this pretended Protestants Plea as it stands divided in the Five Conferences of the Author The Difference betwixt the Protestant and Socinian Methods c. CHAP. I. Observations touching the Book itself its Edition Character and Design FOR the Book itself it may be noted in the First place That it is neither new nor entire It is the Fourth Discourse in the Second Edition of the Guide in Controversies set out in the Year 1673. If this Tract was published before that time to me it was not for then and not before it came to my knowledge But this is not the thing which gives our Ecclesiasticks offence for whether the Men of Controversie bring into the Field either their Old or their New Artillery of Arguments this Apostolical Church is proof against them The Book of which this Plea is a part is believed by many of the same way to be of very great Strength and Solidity And when a Question is moved concerning their Faith they think it enough to say The Guide is unanswered If that be a good Method a Protestant upon the like occasion may take leave to say The Book against the Popes Supremacy written by the learned and humble Dr. Barrow is unanswerable And after all this the Guide is actually answered though not in the Formality of Word for

but rather have own'd his Church to have been a new one upon the whole Matter and granted a kind of Universal Apostacy the Protestant is brought in as in a manner deriding this Argument in his own Person or at least as contented with it as by a Socinian propos'd So then it seems we need fear no Schism from the Church Catholick till a part can divide from itself which can never be Whereas a Protestant would have first told them that there is just fear of a Schism in the Body of the Church Catholick though not from it And that they had made a Separation from the sound parts of it though not from the whole whilst the Protestants were both Members of the Universal Church and in Communion with all particular Churches so far as they are Christian. He would have added That Mr. Chillingworth's Words were proper in his own Case but not in the Case of a Socinian Church which is taken to be a Member in the Universal Church but unsound and out of its place Fourthly It may be noted that the Author of this Book is not the Inventer but the Borrower of this Argument call'd The Protestants Plea for a Socinian It has been used by Valerianus Magnus by the Author of the Brief Disquisition by Sir Kenelm Digby in his Discourse concerning the Infallibility of Religion if he be the genuine Author by the Iesuite who cavill'd against Dr. Potter's Book call'd Want of Charity Which Argument of the Iesuite was long ago answer'd by Mr. Chillingworth though this Author who was under Obligation by the very Nature of his Undertaking to have Reply'd is pleas'd to pass it over in silence Since that time Louis Maimbourg then a Iesuite wrote a Book Intituled A Treatise concerning the True Word of God Four Chapters of that little Book are spent in the managing of this Method And If you will take it upon his own Word he has come into the Field with Invincible Weapons About two years after this Protestants Plea is set to sale among us after the English manner in other knacks After the French comes the English Guide after the Foreign Expositor the English Misrepresenter We follow when the Mode declines elsewhere When others molt their Feathers we take them up and write with them Yet this is to be acknowledg'd that our Author both in his Judgment and Manners and closeness of Writing does much exceed that Monsieur Maimbourg though he may seem to have taken some Hints from him My Last Observation toucheth the design of this Book which looks as if it were particularly levell'd against the Established Church of England It is true the more general Name of Protestant is used but the Authors who are cited are not Luther or Calvin Cal●…xtus or Daille Cartwright or Travers but Archb. Laud Archb. Bramhal Mr. Chillingworth Dr. Hammond Dr. F●…rn and Dr. Stillingfleet Now it has been one of the later Stratagems of evil Men to Misrepresent the Ministers of this Sound Church as favourers of the Doctrines of Socinus and at this very time this Art is in Practice Otherwise why d●…es the Paper just now scattered abroad style the Socinians the Brethren of Protestants by descent and iniquity To what other purpose serveth the beginning of the long Book just now appearing and call'd a Letter to the Bishop of Lincoln For the Author complains of the Arian History of Sandius as publish'd here at London though 't was set sorth in Holland and in England twice refuted and of that Bishops declining an Answer to it which surely he might reasonably do without any approbation of so ill a Book for every Man is not at leasure to do every thing in Learning which in the general is fit to be done The Title of this Book is Serviceable to the abovesaid design by way of Insinuation And who will assure us that it was not pick'd out of the Guide for this disingenuous end That it was gathered meerly as the choicest Flower contain'd in that Book and not as the fittest in this juncture for this calumniating purpose I do not believe that this was the principal design either of the Author or the Publish●…r But if a Man that goes about to fence himself from his Neighbour can both dig his Ditch and cast his durt upon him he may perhaps be so ill natur'd as to think he does well to dispatch two works at a time However it be with our present Author this is certain Socinus himself taking notice of it that England and Scotland were not favourable to his Doctrine and that it sprang out of Italy Sozzo the Uncle Blandrata Paruta Alciat were Italians and bred in the Roman Church Ochinus was of Siena and some say Confessor to the Pope and General of the Order of the Capucins Faustus Socinus the Nephew as well as Laelius the Uncle was of the same Siena and nearly related to Pius the Second and Third and to Paul the Fifth And of the First Chapter of the Second Book of the Reformation of the Church of Poland these are the Contents After what manner the Seeds of Divine Truth were carried out of Italy into Poland in the Year 1551 by Laelius Socinus And before his remove in the Year 1546 he had form'd a Socinian Cabal of Italians in the Territories of Venice and especially at Vicenza amounting to a considerable number And I find it said elsewhere that in the Year 1539 the burning of a Lady who had turn'd from the Church of Rome open'd the Eyes of Men in Poland and dispos'd them to inquiry into Truth I have seen some Applications of the Socinians to the Mahometans in which they shew what approaches they make towards them I have read of Conditions of Accommodation betwixt the Socinians and the Romanists But Fame it self I think has not invented any such project betwixt the Socinians and the English Church I do not offer this discourse as a proof of encouragement for Socinianism in the Church of Rome yet it is an Argument sufficient for the Silencing of those of that Communion who charge it upon Ours And for other Churches that which is said already may be a proof of the wonted Sincerity of Monsieur Maimbourg who tells his Readers with assurance that the Persons who after the interval of nigh 900 Years reviv'd Arianism were all of them either Lutherans or Calvinists before they became the Disciples of Socinus A Man ought to have been Master of their History before he had pronounc'd so freely of them But some have an extraordinary Talent in making History It is true the Author de Constantiâ Religionis Christianae was by Education a Lutheran but he was taken young into the School of the Iesuites And after having been Ten Years among them he turn'd Socinian as he himself relates his own Story And Men who consider the Nature of causes and effects are