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the_o divine_n of_o upper_a germany_n at_o a_o meeting_n at_o wittinberg_n anno_fw-la 1536._o according_o to_o a_o certain_a form_n of_o article_n of_o agreement_n together_o with_o the_o explication_n thereof_o annex_v by_o martin_n bucer_n and_o after_o the_o agreement_n subscribe_v about_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n the_o next_o article_n to_o be_v so_o compose_v and_o explain_v to_o all_o their_o content_n be_v that_o about_o baptism_n the_o article_n be_v this_o touch_v baptism_n of_o infant_n all_o without_o any_o doubt_a agree_n that_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptize_v for_o since_o the_o promise_n of_o salvation_n do_v also_o belong_v to_o infant_n and_o it_o pertain_v not_o to_o those_o which_o be_v without_o the_o church_n it_o be_v therefore_o necessary_a that_o it_o shall_v be_v apply_v by_o the_o ministry_n and_o to_o conjoin_v they_o to_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n the_o explication_n of_o the_o article_n annex_v this_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o a_o necessity_n in_o respect_n of_o ministry_n and_o by_o command_n of_o god_n and_o not_o of_o necessity_n in_o respect_n of_o salvation_n etc._n etc._n unto_o which_o as_o to_o the_o rest_n subscribe_v martinus_n lutherus_n doctor_n witebergensis_fw-la johannes_n bugenhagius_n pomeranus_n doctor_n philippus_n melancton_n justus_n menius_n isenacensis_n etc._n etc._n and_o on_o the_o other_o side_n m._n martinus_n bucerus_n minister_n ecclesiae_fw-la argentinensis_n wolsangus_fw-la musculus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la augustanae_n minister_n in_o verbo_fw-la and_o divers_a other_o i_o have_v set_v down_o this_o story_n the_o full_a as_o it_o be_v mention_v among_o bucers_n work_n in_o that_o i_o shall_v have_v frequent_a occasion_n to_o refer_v to_o it_o anglicana_n bucers_n opera_fw-la anglicana_n but_o to_o return_v to_o luther_n he_o be_v one_o that_o hold_v baptism_n not_o simple_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n as_o that_o 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god_n be_v nothing_o if_o the_o man_n be_v nothing_o for_o baptism_n be_v the_o work_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o be_v certain_a that_o luther_n take_v the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n of_o infant_n as_o unquestionable_a rather_o argue_v thence_o to_o prove_v that_o infant_n have_v faith_n which_o be_v a_o tenet_n of_o his_o own_o than_o that_o faith_n be_v require_v in_o they_o to_o their_o baptism_n thus_o infant_n unless_o that_o they_o have_v faith_n it_o will_v be_v say_v they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v but_o all_o grant_v that_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v therefore_o infant_n have_v faith_n chap._n iii_o sect_n i._o beda_n be_v the_o next_o author_n cite_v proposition_n 2._o upon_o act_n 19_o as_o speak_v thus_o as_o those_o that_o come_v to_o the_o apostle_n to_o be_v baptize_v be_v instruct_v and_o teach_v of_o they_o and_o when_o they_o be_v instruct_v and_o teach_v concern_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n than_o they_o receive_v the_o holy_a 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author_n and_o first_o austin_n ad_fw-la salcotinanum_fw-la be_v cite_v proposition_n 2._o as_o speak_v that_o a_o man_n must_v repent_v before_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n as_o peter_n say_v to_o the_o jew_n act_n 2._o etc._n etc._n but_o as_o for_o the_o name_n of_o the_o book_n or_o epist_n i_o find_v not_o the_o author_n or_o printer_n i_o suppose_v mistake_v the_o name_n i_o find_v reference_n make_v in_o the_o decretall_n set_v forth_o by_o petrus_n albignanus_fw-la trecius_fw-la for_o as_o for_o those_o set_v forth_o by_o gratian_n i_o neither_o have_v they_o nor_o can_v meet_v with_o they_o unto_o austin_n ad_fw-la salectinanum_fw-la as_o use_v these_o expression_n omnis_fw-la qui_fw-la jam_fw-la suae_fw-la voluntatis_fw-la etc._n etc._n every_o one_o that_o be_v at_o his_o own_o free_a dispose_n when_o he_o come_v unto_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o faithful_a unless_o it_o repent_v he_o of_o his_o old_a life_n he_o may_v not_o begin_v the_o new_a from_o this_o penitence_n only_o 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〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o as_o for_o one_o who_o they_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v according_a to_o suidas_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v one_o that_o be_v new_o come_v from_o gentilism_n or_o judaisme_n say_v cornelius_n à _fw-la lapide_fw-la and_o have_v embrace_v the_o christian_a religion_n be_v by_o baptism_n plant_v into_o the_o church_n of_o god_n albeit_o neither_o yet_o sufficient_o establish_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o faith_n nor_o so_o full_o approve_v in_o life_n the_o like_a description_n other_o give_v of_o such_o in_o reference_n to_o 1_o tim._n 3._o 6._o but_o to_o come_v to_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o testimony_n which_o be_v as_o follow_v before_o we_o duck_v or_o dip_v their_o body_n in_o the_o sacred_a water_n we_o ask_v believe_v thou_o in_o god_n the_o father_n almighty_a and_o they_o answer_v i_o believe_v etc._n etc._n and_o we_o ask_v they_o believe_v you_o in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n unto_o which_o every_o one_o of_o they_o answer_v i_o believe_v and_o thus_o have_v we_o do_v according_a to_o the_o command_n of_o our_o lord_n matth._n 28._o 19_o and_o what_o of_o all_o this_o because_o person_n which_o be_v convert_v from_o paganism_n or_o judaisme_n be_v ask_v such_o question_n therefore_o none_o other_o be_v baptize_v but_o such_o and_o in_o such_o a_o way_n non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la or_o because_o this_o be_v command_v by_o christ_n therefore_o this_o be_v all_o he_o command_v in_o mark_n 28._o 19_o it_o follow_v not_o austin_n who_o be_v of_o another_o mind_n never_o imagine_v such_o a_o conclusion_n will_v ever_o be_v draw_v from_o his_o word_n the_o author_n not_o name_v the_o sermon_n nor_o the_o season_n when_o preach_v i_o will_v make_v bold_a to_o help_v out_o therein_o that_o such_o sermon_n use_v to_o be_v preach_v at_o easter_n one_o of_o the_o solemn_a time_n then_o set_v for_o
of_o the_o church_n that_o way_n and_o possible_o the_o author_n by_o add_v this_o testimony_n of_o austin_n to_o that_o of_o cyprian_n epistle_n and_o on_o this_o say_v that_o cyprian_a ordain_v child_n shall_v be_v baptize_v they_o bring_v this_o to_o confirm_v it_o which_o do_v indeed_o confirm_v it_o that_o cyprian_n hold_v this_o and_o ratify_v this_o but_o not_o as_o the_o first_o author_n of_o it_o which_o perhaps_o the_o treatise_n will_v make_v the_o world_n believe_v but_o rather_o as_o that_o which_o the_o christian_a church_n have_v ever_o firm_o believe_v according_a as_o austin_n in_o his_o 10_o sermon_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o paedobaptism_n say_v this_o the_o church_n mean_v the_o christian_a church_n have_v always_o have_v always_o hold_v this_o it_o have_v receive_v from_o the_o faith_n or_o doctrine_n of_o the_o ancient_n this_o do_v it_o keep_v most_o constant_o unto_o the_o end_n yea_o but_o pag._n 33._o our_o author_n ciâ—e_v some_o word_n of_o he_o in_o his_o 28_o epistle_n to_o jerom_n therefore_o do_v man_n hasten_v so_o with_o their_o child_n to_o baptism_n because_o they_o believe_v they_o can_v otherwise_o be_v make_v alive_a in_o christ_n and_o to_o the_o like_a purpose_n in_o his_o enchiridion_n from_o the_o young_a to_o the_o old_a none_o be_v to_o be_v deny_v baptism_n for_o salvation_n be_v not_o promise_v to_o the_o child_n but_o through_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n austin_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o milevitan_a council_n write_v as_o condemn_v such_o as_o think_v infant_n can_v be_v save_v without_o baptism_n all_o this_o if_o they_o intend_v it_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n in_o respect_n of_o god_n precept_n in_o opposition_n to_o contempt_n and_o neglect_n and_o of_o salvation_n promise_v in_o such_o sort_n as_o with_o reference_n to_o this_o as_o one_o ordinary_a help_n and_o seal_v thereof_o leave_v extraordinary_a way_n and_o secret_n to_o the_o lord_n charity_n will_v think_v favourable_o of_o their_o word_n especial_o since_o as_o much_o in_o effect_n be_v in_o this_o sense_n hold_v forth_o ephes_n 5._o 25_o 26_o 27._o but_o be_v it_o that_o austin_n superad_v his_o own_o stubble_n and_o straw_n yet_o that_o hinder_v not_o but_o the_o bottom_n and_o foundation_n of_o that_o ordinance_n be_v good_a and_o sure_a you_o will_v not_o say_v because_o papist_n hold_v baptism_n to_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n that_o therefore_o baptism_n of_o grow_v person_n be_v no_o ordinance_n that_o other_o speech_n of_o augustine_n that_o as_o those_o be_v circumcise_v which_o be_v bear_v of_o circumcise_a parent_n even_o so_o shall_v they_o be_v baptize_v which_o be_v bear_v of_o parent_n that_o be_v baptize_v be_v sound_a and_o good_a and_o no_o proof_n of_o that_o seven_o proposition_n that_o paedobaptism_n be_v a_o humane_a ordinance_n thus_o we_o see_v austin_n have_v speed_v no_o better_a than_o his_o neighbour_n sect_n iii_o melancton_n be_v the_o next_o witness_n who_o be_v call_v in_o to_o give_v evidence_n to_o confirm_v the_o 2d_o 6_o and_o seven_o proposition_n i_o be_o sorry_a that_o these_o book_n cite_v be_v not_o at_o hand_n so_o that_o i_o can_v so_o well_o discover_v the_o ill_a deal_n which_o i_o suspect_v upon_o the_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 15._o he_o be_v say_v to_o affirm_v in_o time_n past_o those_o in_o the_o church_n which_o have_v repent_v they_o be_v baptize_v and_o it_o be_v in_o stead_n of_o a_o absolution_n wherefore_o repentance_n must_v not_o be_v separate_v from_o baptism_n for_o baptism_n be_v a_o sacramental_a sign_n of_o repentance_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o melancton_n here_o speak_v of_o the_o baptism_n of_o grow_v once_o those_o in_o the_o church_n which_o have_v repent_v be_v baptize_v and_o so_o in_o like_a case_n of_o baptise_v adult_a person_n repentance_n shall_v not_o be_v separate_v from_o baptism_n but_o to_o melancton_n himself_o it_o be_v a_o non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la that_o therefore_o infant_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v because_o they_o can_v repent_v witness_v the_o answer_n he_o make_v in_o his_o common_a place_n unto_o that_o objection_n against_o paedobaptism_n loco_fw-la de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la infantum_fw-la it_o be_v most_o true_a say_v he_o that_o in_o all_o adult_n person_n baptism_n faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v require_v but_o in_o the_o case_n of_o infant_n this_o suffice_v that_o the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v give_v they_o by_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n as_o for_o that_o definition_n of_o baptism_n that_o it_o be_v a_o sacramental_a sign_n of_o repentance_n it_o be_v imperfect_a nor_o yet_o will_v it_o follow_v thence_o that_o none_o else_o shall_v be_v baptize_v but_o such_o as_o actual_o repent_v no_o more_o than_o in_o that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o heart_n circumcision_n and_o therefore_o of_o repentance_n deut._n 10._o 16._o jer._n 4._o 4._o deut._n 30._o 6._o that_o none_o but_o adult_a person_n be_v fit_a to_o 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again_o it_o signify_v the_o death_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o rise_v the_o three_o day_n again_o etc._n etc._n the_o sentence_n before_o be_v the_o similitude_n stand_v thus_o as_o christ_n die_v and_o rise_v the_o three_o day_n so_o we_o in_o baptism_n die_v and_o rise_v again_o for_o in_o that_o etc._n etc._n as_o before_o but_o that_o be_v undeniable_o his_o own_o upon_o luke_n 10._o all_o thing_n be_v give_v to_o i_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 197._o he_o make_v baptism_n to_o succeed_v circumcision_n urge_v that_o proof_n col._n 2._o 12._o wherefore_o say_v he_o when_o that_o be_v come_v unto_o which_o the_o figure_n do_v denote_v that_o note_n and_o figure_n cease_v and_o rest_v for_o circumcision_n be_v the_o note_n or_o figure_n the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n or_o baptism_n be_v the_o very_a thing_n which_o be_v signify_v this_o be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o doctrine_n we_o hold_v forth_o and_o whence_o by_o analogy_n we_o deduce_v the_o doctrine_n of_o paedobaptism_n the_o same_o also_o teach_v epiphanius_n 396._o anno_fw-la 396._o epiphanius_n of_o epiphanius_n epiphanius_n contra_fw-la haereses_fw-la contra_fw-la epicuraeos_fw-la there_o be_v circumcision_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o serve_v unto_o the_o time_n of_o the_o great_a circumcision_n scil_n baptism_n which_o circumcise_v we_o from_o our_o sin_n and_o seal_v we_o into_o the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o contra_fw-la corinth_n circumcision_n last_v as_o a_o servant_n for_o a_o time_n until_o the_o great_a circumcision_n namely_o the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n come_v in_o stead_n and_o tom._n 2._o l._n 1._o christ_n come_v and_o fulfil_v circumcision_n have_v give_v a_o perfect_a circumcision_n among_o his_o mystery_n not_o in_o one_o member_n only_o but_o of_o the_o whole_a body_n be_v seal_v and_o circumcise_v from_o sin_n and_o not_o save_v one_o part_n of_o his_o people_n that_o be_v man_n only_o but_o the_o whole_a people_n of_o christian_n scil_n man_n woman_n and_o child_n he_o compleat_v circumcision_n by_o all_o their_o circumcise_n from_o sin_n in_o baptism_n yea_o but_o why_o then_o do_v not_o epiphanius_n use_v that_o argument_n of_o paedobaptism_n against_o the_o collirydians_n as_o well_v as_o that_o take_v from_o their_o interest_n in_o god_n kingdom_n etc._n etc._n the_o answer_n be_v ready_a it_o be_v likely_a that_o all_o those_o heretic_n may_v as_o well_o as_o some_o other_o deny_v paedobaptism_n in_o a_o sense_n if_o not_o whole_o and_o what_o then_o the_o argument_n from_o paedobaptism_n have_v be_v invalid_a beside_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o a_o man_n in_o disprove_v error_n or_o prove_v truth_n shall_v use_v all_o the_o argument_n he_o have_v by_o he_o or_o that_o it_o be_v conclude_v he_o have_v no_o more_o argument_n that_o way_n because_o he_o use_v they_o not_o 369._o anno_fw-la 369._o what_o basil_n say_v this_o way_n as_o i_o find_v he_o quote_v by_o aretius_n on_o luke_n 18._o i_o have_v mention_v former_o i_o have_v not_o time_n to_o search_v he_o and_o read_v he_o exact_o 380._o anno_fw-la 380._o what_o gregory_n nazianzen_n have_v this_o way_n for_o we_o yea_o if_o strict_o expound_v how_o he_o be_v we_o we_o have_v see_v before_o 405._o anno_fw-la 405._o chrysostome_n of_o chrysostome_n john_n chrysostome_n which_o mr._n blackwood_n make_v his_o own_o in_o his_o 21._o homil._n to_o the_o people_n of_o antioch_n which_o if_o not_o spurious_a as_o sundry_a of_o they_o be_v see_v perkins_n and_o rivet_n yet_o not_o understand_v exclusive_a and_o it_o be_v much_o that_o mr._n b._n that_o say_v pag._n 31._o he_o regard_v not_o any_o authority_n after_o the_o first_o 300._o year_n will_v yet_o quote_v the_o nicene_n council_n 325._o the_o laodicean_n council_n 308._o the_o constantinople_n council_n about_o 400._o basil_n 380._o and_o chrysostome_n 405._o year_n after_o christ_n
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