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A84998 A full relation or dialogue between a loyallist and a converted phanattick since the time of the late rebellion, relating their wicked conspiracy, and barbarous intentions, whereby their divellish plots is more fully discovered then ever it was before: gently disputed between them both. Together with the phanaticks lamentation and farewell to that crew. Published as a warning-piece to all the rebellious sectaries. 1660 (1660) Wing F2375; Thomason E1875_2; ESTC R209788 5,802 16

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that my brethren doth suffer and none regardeth them Loy No not many thou mayst be sure Phan. Alas alas our brethren were saintly divine creatures and as innocent as the beast of the field they loved all flesh alike They hated not each others wives but loved them as they loved their own They lid'd so charitable one with another that rather then they would part they would go to Newgate together They would wrong no man sacretly but in the streets kill them openly They were the judicious persons in the world putting treason and baseness aside There was few men of more constancy then they were but 't was among themselvs They were the learnedst Schollers that ever was For they would coyn such new sence for Scripture words that never was heard nor known before They were likewise the valiantest Souldiers that ever was confessing they were alwayes led by a sp'rit They were also accounted for the bouldest men that ever I knew for they could look through the grandest piece of impudence without being a whit ashamed they were the greatest lovers of Churches that ever was for they would willingly have pul'd them down to have paved their yards with the stones thereof Nay they knew that amongst all these vertues if they were taken they should be hang'd Loy Why truly it is the general report of the City especially for these thrée v v v Vice Villany and Vaniy and for thrée b b b Bloody Base and Busie and for thrée t t t Troubles Treason and Treachery whereby you may search Bedlam Bridewell and Newgate and hardly find any to exceed them Phan. Verily I answer and say unto thee that these are the latter days my brethren do live in Loy Why truly Dun has a great suspition of it that 't is their latter days they live in now P. Why so I mean but will ye believe me Loy 'T is a question whether I shall or no for times are dangerous Phan. Why indeed it is a tottering age we live in for the word says we are here to day and gon to morrow Loy Your brethren at Newgate cannot say so except it be the day before their Execution Phan. Why verily I answer thee according to the word we live in a very uncertain time for a man does not know the day he shall dye on Loy Yes in good saith when your brethren are going up Holbuern they have a shrew'd guess what day they are to dye on Phan. Alas they were innocent and harmless creatures they never do no hurt but what they do willingly Loy Why so the report is but Monday and Wednesday they could do but little or nothing Phan. Alas they could do no more then what they were able though they endeavoured as much as any men alive Loy Yes I believe they did but they should have march't in order and have chose some honest religious men to command ye Phan. Indeed there was thee honest men to have come which was Hewson Okey and Ludlow but had they come and been taken you would surely have hang'd them Loy Yes truly and not only them for they have got such a use of hanging that that they do not care to hang the greatest Traytor in England Phan. I but our people did not intend to be hang'd when they came out Loy Very likely so indéed but how did you come to joyn with the Righteous to advance the cause of the faithful Phan. Why truly I shall tell thee O man from the uprightness of my heart how according to my belief the spirit did move me Loy Yes I warrant thée the spirit did move thée more likely the Divel did move thée therefore declare to me the very truth Phan. Why then behold O man on Wednesday morning Ian. 9. as I lay in my bed I was troubled and I heard a voice say come away for the day of the faithful appeareth then I arose and took my woollen vestment also with me and the woman that was given to be with me said O man whether departest thou I said to her I go to seek the faithful she answered me again go and prosper No sooner was I come out at the North door but I espyed and beheld afar off a band of men and I drew neer unto them and they drew near unto me and said unto me who art thou I answered and said I am one of the faithful Then they answered and said draw near and be it unto thee even as thou hast said Then we communed and walked together and sought counsel by prayer and being come into Cheapside we met with our Enemies who assaulted us and smote us both back and side and cast us into bonds so this was the overthrow of the righteous and if there is ought done against thee 't is I a servant of the Lord testifie thou against me Loy I testify against thee that thou and the rest of thy brethren did seek to maintain Kingly Government to keep up the Clergy and to continue the Laws both for the preservation of Prince and peasant Phan. I tell thee O man that thy testimony is not according to truth for we never intended any of these things but as we were led by the spirit our intention was to pull down all Government to subvert the Laws destroy the Clergy to set up Bell and Dragon and live under the means and sweat of other mens labours Loy Nay but you did intend to raise another great Tax and to repaire and beautifie the Church of Saint Pauls and to rectifie the Altar Phan. Nay but O man I shall answer again and say thou art in an Error for the spirit did move us to pull it down and to remove the Altars from their places Loy And again you did intend to erect more new Colledges in both Vniversities and make the Nation mad with learning Phan. I tell thee again O man as I am bound to answer to my charge that it is false also for we were to confound learning and destroy they universities with the three Original tongues Latine Greek and Hebrew because our opinion should never be confuted Loy Nay but you would have made such an Order in the City as to have Elected two Lord Mayors four Sheriffs and twice as many Aldermen Phan I answer thee again O man 't is very false for we did never intend any such thing for our intention was to have had no Lord Mayor Sheriff nor Alderman but every one to be Governor and Teacher of his own house Loy And again it is plainly made apparent that you did intend for to erect more Printing houses because all the Presses in town could not Print off so fast as your Authours did write Phan. Verily I say unto thee That a flight of snow on May day is more welcomer to us then either Printing or learning nay we did so much disaffect it that we intended to have taught each other without Bell Book or Candle and so to have béen as innocent as the beast in the field that knows neither good nor evil Loy Nay it s further laid to your charge that you had such inclination to Languages that you kept Translators in your houses Phan. I shall answer unto thee O man that we were not inclined to Languages but was content with the same we was born withall and for Translators we never had any but our Shoo-repairers Loy But did ye not intend to teach when you came into Cheap-side to the Standard Phan. No no we did intend to meet and assemble our selves together and put our host in order for the mighty work we were cal'd to Loy Yes a mighty work you had to do before we met with you at Woodstreet Colledg-hill and Cornwall Pha. O man our enemies met with us too soon which makes me add the lamentation of a bad market for the hands of the City have been upon us His lamentation and farewell to all Sects What now I say that must I néeds The hands of the City have bin on our heads that spirit which within our hearts did lurk And put us now upon this mighty work Hath even so betray'd us into thrall And brought our teachers into bondage all That very curse which was on cursed Cain Is now befell amongst my brethren Our self-opinion teachers now is clad with the very plague the Pharaohs Egiptians had Being unbelievers through Hipocricy We 're drowned all within the Ocean Sea Iust even so we made Religion new And justifi'd it like as if we knew the hearts of Angels in their contemplation Although 't was nothing but dissimulation Led by a spirit which did us undo And now hath ruin'd our Religion too Then farewell Sects farewell Sectaries Farewell to Schisme and to Hypocrisses Farewell to méeting-houses and adiue To teaching-houses farewell unto you Farewel to Bishopsgate we use to méet Farewel to preaching in the open stréet For now the Bull and mouth at Aldersgate Within this fortnight is to be let What have the tenants lately Newgate took That now the Bull mouth they have forsook A place most fit the time was then Bedlam and Bridewel did complain of them FINIS