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of_o doctrine_n by_o many_o deliver_v be_v sound_n and_o good_a yet_o herein_o it_o fail_v that_o neither_o the_o minister_n thereof_o be_v accord_v to_o god_n word_n prove_v elect_v call_v or_o ordain_v nor_o the_o function_n in_o such_o sort_n so_o narrow_o look_v unto_o as_o of_o right_n it_o ought_v and_o be_v of_o necessity_n require_v answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 34._o &_o 35._o the_o proposition_n that_o these_o libeler_n will_v prove_v be_v that_o we_o in_o england_n be_v so_o far_o from_o have_v a_o church_n right_o reform_v accord_v to_o the_o prescripte_n of_o god_n word_n that_o as_o yet_o we_o be_v not_o come_v to_o the_o outward_a face_n of_o the_o same_o for_o proof_n hereof_o they_o use_v this_o argnment_n there_o be_v three_o out_o ward_n mark_n whereby_o a_o true_a christian_a church_n be_v know_v preach_v of_o the_o word_n pure_o minister_v of_o the_o sacrament_n sincere_o and_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n which_o consist_v in_o admonition_n and_o 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prove_v elect_v call_v or_o ordain_v what_o force_n and_o pith_n be_v in_o their_o argument_n shall_v appear_v in_o the_o several_a answer_n to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o this_o one_o thing_n i_o must_v let_v you_o understande_v that_o these_o man_n seek_v to_o deface_v this_o church_n of_o england_n by_o the_o self_n same_o ground_n that_o the_o papist_n do_v although_o by_o another_o kind_n of_o proof_n for_o what_o have_v the_o papist_n else_o to_o say_v but_o that_o we_o have_v no_o minister_n because_o they_o be_v not_o right_o call_v and_o so_o consequent_o no_o word_n no_o sacrament_n no_o discipline_n no_o church_n and_o certain_o if_o it_o be_v well_o examine_v i_o believe_v it_o will_v fall_v out_o that_o the_o author_n of_o this_o book_n have_v conspire_v with_o the_o papist_n to_o overthrow_v if_o they_o can_v the_o state_n both_o of_o this_o church_n and_o realm_n howsoever_o subtle_o they_o seem_v to_o detest_v papistry_n t._n c._n page_n 23._o sect._n 1_o 2_z 3._o so_o 3._o where_o do_v i_o 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o say_v so_o where_o in_o effect_n do_v they_o say_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v void_a of_o preach_v ▪_o and_o minister_a of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v it_o all_o one_o to_o say_v that_o the_o word_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v not_o pure_o preach_v and_o the_o sacrament_n sincere_o and_o discipline_n severe_o administer_v with_o this_o that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v void_a of_o all_o these_o again_o where_o do_v they_o reason_v thus_o that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v not_o true_o preach_v because_o the_o minister_n be_v not_o ryght_o prove_v and_o elect_v when_o as_o they_o have_v not_o one_o word_n of_o true_a preach_n be_v it_o all_o one_o to_o say_v it_o be_v not_o pure_o preach_v and_o to_o say_v it_o be_v not_o true_o preach_v saint_a paul_n to_o the_o cavil_n a_o cavil_n philipp_n be_v glad_a that_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v although_o it_o be_v not_o pure_o but_o he_o will_v never_o have_v be_v glad_a that_o it_o shall_v have_v be_v preach_v false_o or_o not_o true_o again_o he_o inveygh_v not_o against_o the_o false_a apostle_n in_o the_o church_n of_o corinthe_n because_o they_o preach_v the_o word_n untrue_o but_o because_o they_o use_v paint_a word_n and_o affect_a eloquence_n and_o make_v a_o great_a show_n of_o learning_n and_o tongue_n do_v not_o preach_v the_o gospel_n sincere_o so_o that_o you_o see_v that_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n not_o to_o preach_v true_o and_o a_o other_o thing_n not_o to_o preach_v pure_o and_o so_o you_o see_v their_o reason_n be_v not_o so_o evil_a for_o the_o want_n of_o a_o good_a call_n may_v gyve_v occasion_n to_o say_v that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v not_o sincere_o teach_v because_o there_o be_v not_o a_o lawful_a and_o ordinary_a call_n for_o although_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o doctrine_n and_o the_o manner_n of_o handle_v of_o it_o they_o that_o sainte_n paul_n speak_v to_o of_o the_o philipp_n do_v not_o fault_n yet_o saint_n paul_n say_v that_o they_o do_v not_o preach_v pure_o because_o they_o do_v it_o of_o contention_n or_o of_o envy_n which_o be_v no_o fault_n in_o the_o doctrine_n but_o in_o he_o that_o teach_v therefore_o let_v man_n judge_v how_o just_a your_o wayghte_n be_v that_o expound_v not_o pure_o not_o true_o and_o whither_o this_o be_v to_o confute_v other_o man_n argument_n rather_o than_o to_o skirmish_n with_o your_o own_o shadow_n i_o know_v no_o papist_n reason_n thus_o that_o because_o we_o have_v no_o minister_n therefore_o no_o word_n no_o sacrament_n no_o discipline_n no_o church_n for_o they_o deny_v that_o we_o have_v the_o word_n or_o sacrament_n because_o we_o hold_v not_o their_o word_n and_o sacrifice_n but_o if_o there_o be_v that_o so_o reason_n yet_o these_o man_n that_o you_o charge_v have_v neither_o any_o such_o antecedent_n or_o such_o a_o consequent_a for_o they_o never_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o ministry_n in_o england_n nor_o yet_o do_v ever_o conclude_v 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the_o minister_n and_o deacon_n of_o the_o same_o diecesse_n to_o athanasius_n the_o beginning_n of_o the_o letter_n be_v this_o et_fw-la nos_fw-la quoque_fw-la diligentes_fw-la pacem_fw-la &_o unanimitatem_fw-la cum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la cvi_fw-la tu_fw-la per_fw-la dei_fw-la gratiam_fw-la praefectus_fw-la es_fw-la volensque_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la canoni_fw-la pro_fw-la veteri_fw-la instituto_fw-la subijci_fw-la scribimus_fw-la tibi_fw-la papa_n dilecte_fw-la promittimusque_fw-la in_fw-la nomine_fw-la domini_fw-la nos_fw-la deinceps_fw-la non_fw-la communicaturos_fw-la cum_fw-la schismaticis_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o we_o also_o love_a peace_n and_o concord_n with_o the_o catholic_a church_n over_o which_o thou_o be_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n appoint_v and_o willing_a accord_v to_o the_o old_a custom_n to_o be_v subject_n to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n write_v to_o thou_o love_v father_n and_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n promise_n that_o we_o 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and_o hierome_n say_v that_o y_fw-es e_fw-es cause_v why_o among_o y_z e_z bishops_z one_z be_v choose_v to_o govern_v y_z e_o rest_n be_v to_o remedy_v schism_n do_v you_o not_o perceive_v how_o these_o two_o father_n join_v in_o one_o truth_n &_o direct_o affirm_v y_z e_o self_n same_o matter_n it_o be_v true_a y_fw-mi t_o time_n corrupt_v &_o therefore_o much_o more_o occasion_n be_v offer_v to_o appoint_v government_n according_a to_o y_z e_z time_n lest_o the_o corruption_n prevail_v &_o get_v the_o upper_a hand_n &_o for_o this_o cause_n hierome_n say_v that_o upon_o these_o corruption_n of_o time_n the_o church_n be_v constrain_v to_o appoint_v this_o order_n chap._n 3._o the._n 17._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 79._o sect._n 3_o and_o here_o i_o must_v put_v m._n doctor_n in_o remembrance_n how_o unfit_o he_o have_v dedicate_v his_o book_n unto_o y_z e_o church_n which_o have_v so_o patch_v it_o &_o peece_v it_o of_o a_o number_n of_o shredde_n of_o the_o doctor_n y_fw-fr t_o 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occasion_n they_o may_v speak_v as_o i_o have_v say_v in_o my_o answer_n chap._n 3._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 110._o sect._n 2._o now_o if_o the_o speech_n be_v a_o true_a messenger_n of_o the_o heart_n i_o perceyve_v master_n doctor_n be_v of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o mind_n that_o he_o will_v have_v woman_n preach_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n at_o this_o time_n for_o he_o can_v deny_v and_o he_o also_o confess_v it_o sometime_o that_o this_o be_v the_o time_n of_o necessity_n and_o indeed_o it_o must_v be_v needs_o a_o extreme_a necessity_n that_o drive_v to_o make_v one_o man_n pastor_n of_o two_o church_n especial_o so_o far_o distant_a that_o drive_v to_o make_v man_n which_o be_v not_o able_a to_o teach_v minister_n and_o diverse_a more_o thing_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n therefore_o this_o be_v a_o time_n of_o necessity_n by_o m._n doctor_n judgement_n we_o ought_v to_o have_v woman_n to_o preach_v beside_o this_o he_o say_v if_o 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go_v about_o to_o teach_v that_o woman_n may_v preach_v i_o tell_v you_o only_o what_o extreme_a necessity_n may_v extraordinary_o permit_v without_o just_a cause_n of_o reprehension_n chap._n 3._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 110._o sect._n ult._n and_o as_o for_o the_o example_n of_o mary_n the_o sister_n of_o moses_n of_o olda_n of_o anna_n and_o the_o daughter_n of_o philip_n the_o evangelist_n which_o be_v all_o call_v prophetess_n tor_z i_o think_v m._n doctor_n mean_v these_o example_n as_o for_o they_o i_o say_v it_o will_v be_v hard_a for_o to_o show_v that_o they_o ever_o prophesy_v or_o teach_v open_o in_o any_o public_a i_o ng_z or_o congregation_n but_o the_o sure_a answer_n be_v that_o although_o the_o lord_n do_v sometime_o not_o be_v under_o any_o
and_o part_n of_o the_o church_n chap._n 5._o the._n 8._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 153._o sect._n 2._o m._n bucer_n in_o his_o censure_n upon_o the_o communion_n book_n speak_v of_o bucer_n bucer_n the_o order_n appoint_v in_o the_o same_o for_o private_a baptism_n write_v thus_o in_o this_o constitution_n all_o thing_n be_v godly_a appoint_v i_o will_v to_o god_n they_o expedient_a differ_v of_o baptism_n not_o expedient_a be_v so_o observe_v and_o especial_o this_o that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o differ_v for_o thereby_o be_v a_o door_n open_v unto_o the_o devil_n to_o bring_v in_o a_o contempt_n of_o baptism_n and_o so_o of_o our_o whole_a redemption_n and_o communion_n of_o christ_n which_o through_o the_o sect_n of_o anabaptiste_n have_v to_o much_o prevayl_v with_o many_o t._n c._n pag._n 114._o sect._n 2._o in_o the_o 153._o page_n m._n bucers_n censure_n upon_o the_o communion_n book_n be_v cite_v for_o the_o allowance_n of_o that_o 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his_o authority_n but_o you_o be_v the_o first_o professor_n of_o the_o gospel_n that_o ever_o i_o hear_v so_o churlish_o to_o use_v so_o reverend_a so_o learned_a so_o painful_a so_o sound_o a_o father_n be_v also_o a_o earnest_n and_o zealous_a professor_n it_o cause_v i_o the_o less_o to_o regard_v what_o you_o speak_v of_o i_o when_o i_o hear_v such_o bitterness_n against_o all_o other_o be_v they_o never_o so_o zealous_a and_o excellent_a well_o bucer_n reason_n which_o touch_v the_o quick_a will_v have_v be_v reasonable_o answer_v without_o spite_n and_o you_o shall_v rather_o have_v consider_v they_o than_o the_o author_n there_o be_v nothing_o in_o these_o word_n by_o he_o affirm_v which_o be_v not_o in_o as_o plain_a term_n avouch_v by_o zuinglius_fw-la in_o the_o word_n before_o recite_v the_o book_n of_o m._n bucers_n be_v forth_o come_v to_o be_v show_v and_o he_o affirm_v nothing_o therein_o contrary_a to_o his_o book_n publish_v he_o have_v more_o special_a occasion_n here_o offer_v to_o speak_v both_o of_o this_o and_o other_o matter_n now_o in_o controversy_n and_o therefore_o the_o more_o he_o be_v to_o be_v credit_v chap._n 5._o the._n 9_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 114._o sect._n 2._o for_o although_o i_o will_v not_o say_v but_o that_o this_o may_v be_v bucer_n do_v yet_o it_o seem_v very_o strange_a that_o bucer_n shall_v not_o only_o contrary_a to_o the_o learned_a writer_n now_o but_o also_o contrary_a to_o all_o learned_a antiquity_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n while_o there_o be_v any_o tolerable_a estate_n allow_v of_o woman_n baptise_v velan_n baptise_v de_fw-fr virgin_n velan_n tertullian_n say_v it_o be_v not_o permit_v to_o a_o woman_n to_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n nor_o to_o teach_v or_o to_o baptize_v nor_o to_o do_v any_o work_n of_o a_o man_n much_o less_o of_o a_o minister_n baptis_n minister_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_n and_o in_o a_o other_o place_n although_o he_o do_v permit_v it_o to_o be_v do_v by_o say_v man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o necessity_n as_o it_o be_v term_v yet_o he_o give_v not_o that_o licence_n to_o the_o woman_n haeres_fw-la woman_n epiph._n li._n 1._o contra_fw-la haeres_fw-la epiphanius_n upbrayd_v martion_n that_o he_o suffer_v woman_n to_o baptise_v and_o priscil_n and_o lib._n vbi_fw-la de_fw-la phry_n gib_n &_o priscil_n in_o a_o other_o book_n he_o deride_v they_o that_o they_o make_v woman_n bishop_n and_o 3._o and_o lib._n 3._o in_o a_o other_o book_n he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o grant_v unto_o the_o holy_a mother_n of_o christ_n to_o baptise_v her_o son_n io._n whitgifte_n m._n bucer_n speak_v not_o one_o word_n in_o this_o place_n of_o baptise_v by_o woman_n but_o of_o private_a baptism_n which_o neither_o tertullian_n nor_o epiphanius_n in_o these_o place_n by_o you_o allege_v do_v disallow_v chap._n 5._o the._n 10._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 115._o lin._n 6._o cap._n 1._o li._n the_o merit_n &_o remis_fw-la peccat_fw-la 24._o cap._n contra_n e_o piss_v parmen_fw-la lib._n 2._o 13._o cap._n augustine_n although_o he_o be_v of_o that_o mind_n that_o child_n can_v not_o be_v save_v without_o baptism_n untruth_n a_o untruth_n yet_o in_o the_o time_n of_o necessity_n as_o it_o be_v call_v he_o do_v not_o allow_v either_o of_o baptism_n in_o private_a house_n or_o by_o woman_n but_o when_o there_o be_v danger_n the_o woman_n haste_v to_o carry_v the_o child_n unto_o the_o church_n and_o although_o he_o do_v seem_v to_o allow_v of_o the_o baptism_n of_o a_o lay_v man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o necessity_n yet_o there_o also_o he_o mention_v not_o woman_n baptism_n and_o further_o he_o doubt_v whether_o the_o child_n shall_v be_v baptize_v again_o which_o be_v baptize_v by_o a_o lay_n man_n io._n whitgifte_n where_o do_v s._n augustine_n disallow_v baptise_v by_o woman_n or_o in_o private_a house_n he_o utter_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o any_o of_o the_o place_n quote_v in_o the_o margente_fw-la will_v you_o still_o counterfeit_a be_v 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express_v word_n take_v from_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n all_o authority_n of_o make_v and_o appoint_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d order_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n and_o give_v the_o same_o only_a to_o minister_n and_o eccle_n asticall_a govern_v r_n he_o make_v it_o the_o princess_n duty_n to_o see_v those_o awe_v execute_v which_o these_o eccle_n asticall_a governor_n shall_v appoynte_v and_o prescribe_v and_o in_o his_o preface_n he_o say_v that_o evil_a person_n may_v not_o handle_v ecclesiastical_a matter_n and_o pag._n 35._o &_o 145._o y_o e_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n may_v not_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o common_a wealth_n whereof_o he_o be_v the_o head_n where_o by_o as_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d supreme_a governor_n and_o that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v establish_v without_o he_o pag._n 54._o he_o deni_v that_o the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o prescribe_v what_o kind_n of_o apparel_n minister_n 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