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A96887 A conference of some Christians in church-fellow-ship, about the way of Christ with his people, and the result therefrom. This serveth only by way of introduction to take off the reproaches, that are cast upon pastour and people, whose earnest care and endeavour is to walke with a right foote in that holy way. Which is held forth here by the light of the sacred Scripture, as it appeares unto them, and how curious and circumspect their walke should be, who pretend to it, and to walke therein. The scandalls in and against the way are removed as they could be. Woodward, Ezekias, 1590-1675. 1656 (1656) Wing W3485; Thomason E868_4; ESTC R207653 29,701 36

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make use of it to render Popery that rode-way of the world or Nationall Church there right in its owne eyes so corrupt and stinking as any Carrion can be in the Nostrills of every man that hath but the use of ordinary reason so full of folly and Blasphemy it is We were saying that this moved with us very much to hasten-out of that way of the world to wit The observation we made by our eye and eare of those abominable useages those prophane mixtures in Gods-house we meane the meeting place for God's people allowed and countenanced by the Steward 's there Why no man so uncleane though he wallowes like a swine in all the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Myres and filths of the world 2 Pet. 2. 20. yet cleane enough being a washed swine we meane upon account of his Infant Baptisme to be a welcomed ghest unto the Lord's Table Once more Why No man so bad though worse than any Infidell a jearer a scoffer a scorner that sets a City on a flame that will doe unjustly for an half-peny-gaine when a heathen would not doe it for lesse than a kingdome A man that declares his sin like Sodome he hides it not why yet he was Baptized and is a washed swine and upon that score he must be admitted as a worthy guest to the Lord's Table So soone as we were enabled through grace to make observation of these Doings in Gods-House wee hrst'ned-out of that rode-way by His good Hand with us as Lot out of Sodome And God forbid we should looke towards it any more unlesse with loathing as one said of that City of Gods Curse Rome when he left it and had set his backe upon it Roma vale c. Rome farewell againe I will Thee see When Baud Villaine Raunter I am resolv'd to bee And now Sir we are come neare you and must yet come nearer for we must take-in here at the close of this what we purposely omitted at the beginning or entrance upon it That wee may shew the Reader the ground of your Confidence such as it is That we were not able to hold forth the truth of our way and walke therein Why Because it is different from if not contrary to your way and walke which is the same as we fully understand now with Mr H. Wee must be larger here that we may be plainer so as he who run's may reade us and understand us SECT V. THus it was and this the Truth of the matter vvhile you were enjoyning us our taske you were pleased to instance shall we say or not rather to glory in Mr Hs vvho had taken-up Sheild and Buckler as your great Champion to maintaine the Truth of your way vvherein he had done so worthily sad you that though there vvas one found vvho made reply to his first booke as you call it we as was said must call it The vvorke of his flesh yet there was not one found that would undertake to Answer his second being a matter as you thought too high for the undertaker To this we replyed nothing having indeed nothing to reply For we never heard of the man before but speaking of these things as our Duty vvas to our Minister at our meeting as the manner is and desiring his counsell and best helpe about it for wee thought it very unbecoming our profession our way and walke And very unanswerable to all that which our Lord God hath shewed us wrought for us and in us if vvee should sit still now looking one upon another and keepe silence in such matters as these being so charged to speake to them and to speake-out else you vvould say for so you said you would take silence for a grant That our way was nought vvee did not speake for it it was because we could not vvee had nought to say for it In the midst the Debate of these matters mention was made of M H and of the sweet relish his name had at your tongues end vvhich made some of us to thinke he vvas another Simon Magus Some groatone and indeed so he is as he was among the people being as vvee may heare afterwards the Master of the Herd Notwithstanding vvee must not conceale this That when our Pastour heard that Gentleman named and boasted of by you he stood as a man vvee know not whether more wondring or greiving so deare are his respects to you Sir if you could see it for he professed he more than doubted This would greatly disparage your Name and your Cause and he added this which he made very cleare unto us That many men had done unworthily but that Gentleman exceeded them all O how hee vaunteth himselfe speaking of his owne in every line his Mode who is an advocate for a Nationall Church oh his monstrous conclusions his wrested quotations his uncouth Philosophie his consequentiall blasphemie as a worthy Divine speakes upon another account O the vomit cast upon the Scriptures and our Deare Lords practise O the filth he belcheth out upon D. D. which modestie forbids us to expresse Many have done most unworthily this Gentleman exceedeth them all worse than the worst as impudent as impudence it selfe No man said you answers his second booke * This was written before the Authour knew any other Answer to Mr. Hs. but by D. D. It is thinke we because the first answer was so full and cleare and so mauled the man That had he not been so impudent as was said and animated by the Spirit of the world he had not rose-up the second time But his old-father and great Master found him more worke to doe for his children and servants the men of the world and he must doe that which he hath seene with his father And being bound to such a Master he must obey and he that hath such a Driver must run Our Minister for so he said at that time put himselfe to the losse of a little time in reading-his worke of the flesh and paid that charge fully and with advantage by reading the Drs Answer thereunto Yet for the worke it selfe he could hardly say of it what Erasmus said of Seneca If you looke upon Si inspicias illum ut paganus Christiane scripsit si ut Christianus paganicé him as an heathen then he seemes to write like a Christian but if you looke upon him as a Christian then he writeth as an heathen So said our Pastour at that time Quickly after some of us did read the man our selves hearing so contrary and various a report of him yours for his goodnesse and soundnesse our Pastours for his badnesse and rottennesse And truely when we considered the portion of Scripture he tooke to prove Free Admission of all to the Lord's Table We may take that Learned Man's words which Dr. Owen pag. 189. he applies to Mr B and apply them to this Gentleman Mr Hs He made mention of that portion of Scripture Mark 14. 23. That he might have