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A67103 Truth will out, or, A discovery of some untruths smoothly, told by Dr. Ieremy Taylor in his Disswasive from popery with an answer to such arguments as deserve answer / by his friendly adversary E. Worsley. E. W. (Edward Worsley), 1605-1676. 1665 (1665) Wing W3618; ESTC R39189 128,350 226

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pope_n boniface_n lib_n 3._o pag._n 337._o he_o describe_v his_o manner_n and_o say_v he_o be_v learned_a but_o withal_o crafty_a etc._n etc._n not_o a_o syllable_n there_o of_o boniface_n his_o own_n himself_o lord_n of_o france_n or_o the_o world_n lib._n 3._o pag._n 351._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o after_o philip_n le_fw-fr bell_n have_v oppress_v the_o clergy_n with_o heavy_a tax_n to_o maintain_v a_o war_n against_o england_n the_o pope_n dislike_v it_o and_o therefore_o forbid_v the_o abuse_n withal_o will_v philip_n not_o to_o oppress_v churchman_n with_o such_o exaction_n the_o king_n obey_v not_o whereupon_o say_v masson_n boniface_n send_v he_o a_o sharp_a letter_n and_o say_v that_o all_o king_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o pope_n and_o church_n understand_v in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n for_o the_o whole_a context_n bear_v no_o other_o sense_n and_o that_o he_o have_v offend_v against_o both_o equity_n and_o order_n of_o law_n by_o seize_v on_o the_o clergy_n good_n confer_v ecclesiastical_a dignity_n etc._n etc._n what_o be_v here_o good_a reader_n of_o boniface_n own_v himself_o lord_n of_o france_n and_o the_o whole_a world_n also_o when_o neither_o france_n nor_o the_o world_n be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o mention_v nor_o any_o word_n find_v relate_v to_o the_o temporal_a jurisdiction_n of_o prince_n the_o doctor_n say_v more_o that_o all_o the_o jesuit_n order_n make_v the_o pope_n lord_n of_o the_o world_n and_o that_o the_o maintenance_n of_o it_o be_v the_o subject_a matter_n of_o their_o new_a vow_n of_o obedience_n to_o advance_v his_o grandeur_n answ_n few_o jesuit_n will_v read_v this_o vast_a lash_n out_o of_o all_o reason_n without_o smile_v a_o little_a at_o the_o doctor_n and_o may_v most_o just_o vow_v that_o he_o be_v yet_o to_o learn_v what_o both_o their_o doctrine_n and_o institution_n be_v i_o say_v therefore_o his_o assertion_n be_v utter_o untrue_a the_o order_n of_o jesuit_n never_o make_v the_o pope_n lord_n of_o the_o world_n never_o think_v it_o never_o teach_v it_o see_v bellarmin_n cite_v above_o and_o their_o 4_o the_o vow_v of_o obedience_n no_o more_o advance_v his_o temporal_a grandeur_n than_o the_o doctor_n talk_n hurt_v his_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n that_o be_v just_o nothing_o at_o all_o what_o he_o next_o cite_v out_o of_o some_o canonist_n be_v neither_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o good_a divinity_n page_n 170._o he_o tell_v a_o fearful_a story_n of_o sixtus_n quintus_n who_o in_o a_o oration_n solemn_o have_v before_o the_o cardinal_n 11._o september_n anno_fw-la 1589._o commend_v the_o monk_n james_n clement_n that_o kill_v henry_n the_o 3._o of_o france_n i_o answer_v first_o this_o very_a accusation_n as_o the_o doctor_n word_n it_o prove_v nothing_o for_o sixtus_n may_v come_v mend_v clement_n that_o kill_v the_o king_n though_o he_o praise_v he_o not_o for_o that_o impious_a fact_n one_o may_v commend_v doctor_n taylor_n for_o some_o good_a part_n yet_o hold_v he_o most_o blamable_a for_o his_o other_o fault_n of_o deceit_n and_o error_n again_o who_o can_v avouch_v with_o certainty_n that_o sixtus_n make_v such_o a_o oration_n boucher_n say_v the_o doctor_n and_o one_o or_o two_o more_o and_o be_v this_o a_o handsome_a way_n of_o quote_v author_n john_n boucher_n a_o doctor_n of_o sorbon_n canon_n and_o archdeacon_n of_o tornay_n write_v several_a treatise_n and_o book_n a_o part_n the_o ark_n of_o the_o testament_n in_o folio_n the_o conversion_n of_o henry_n the_o four_o the_o mystical_a crown_n of_o prince_n sermon_n &c_n &c_n and_o must_v i_o wander_v among_o all_o these_o direct_v by_o one_o poor_a word_n boucher_n to_o find_v sixtus_n his_o oration_n assert_v authentic_a 3._o suppose_v boucher_n or_o ancelin_n a_o vouch_n it_o authentic_a we_o be_v never_o the_o wise_a unless_o we_o have_v sixtus_n his_o express_a word_n which_o the_o doctor_n cavil_v at_o and_o be_v that_o do_v it_o will_v be_v yet_o doubt_v whether_o all_o be_v not_o a_o 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