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A68764	The theatre of the empire of Great Britaine presenting an exact geography of the kingdomes of England, Scotland, Ireland, and the iles adioyning: with the shires, hundreds, cities and shire-townes, within ye kingdome of England, divided and described by Iohn Speed.	Speed, John, 1552?-1629.; Hondius, Jodocus, 1563-1612, engraver.; Schweitzer, Christoph, wood-engraver.; Camden, William, 1551-1623. Britannia.	1612 (1612)	STC 23041; ESTC S117917	30,317	987

and then most abhominably Christian-like he briskly lets fly at the Dissenters from the Church of England with a most Dismal Judgment that Heaven and Hell is as easie to be brought together as to reconcile those People to any terms of Piety or Civil Order that corruptly style themselves Protestants I must confess here perchance the Author may apprehend he hath the whip hand of any one that will undertake to answer in respect of the Law but I think without offence I may put you in mind of the Words of the Bishop of Donn in his Preface to his Grand Exemplar which are That when it appears a Kingdom is converted to Christianity the Common-wealth is made a Church Gentile Priests are Christian Bishops the Subjects Servants of Christ the Religion turned Christian and the Laws of the Nation made part of the Religion there is no change of Government but Christ is King and the Temporal Power his Substitute and is to promote obedience to him Now I must confess I am and I doubt not but every really true Son of the Church of England will be much more inclinable to take Doctor Tayler for an Authentick Author in this Point of Religion than Mr. L'Estrange though he does not use the word Protestant and without all peradventure his Judgment is upon Truth I mean the word of God which Mr. Roger altogether omits to the great proof of his Sonship and only grounds himself in that case in my apprehension upon several and Vulgar Errors as first I take it to be an undeniable Truth from our Saviour and his Apostles that there is but one Religion and not Legions and that under two Heads 1. Loving God with all your heart 2. Love our Neighbours as our selves unless it may be said that every Chimera of mens brains or every Notion as the Author calls Religion or every Form is a Religion I am of opinion it's Nonsence and I cannot but concur with Dr. Tayler that the Antiochian or Christian Religion is the Religion Catexochene and what ever Forms in true and due order to that are framed doubtless they are praise-worthy and ought to be observed by all that Love the Kingdom of Christ but yet I take it the Form is improperly called a Religion but for this Author that hath the Confidence to style himself the true Son and would fain be esteemed the Champion of the Church of England to leave out the only Essential part of a true Church whose Foundation ought to be upon the Rock of Ages and to place it only in humane Laws which as Dr. Tayler says are but part and only in Substitution to that which is really true is as I said before to take the Church-Yard and all for the Church or instead of commending the Vine to praise the Hedge or Fence about it for as Dr Tayler's opinion is the Temporal Power is to be used primarily and principally to promote obedience to Christ not to its self or any thing contrary to Christ's Doctrine Practices or Precepts therefore to me it seems apparent that the Author hath not done right to his Mother the Church of England which makes me fear in regard the Fathers of the Church seem to be of opinion against him in discription of a Church I conceive it may without straining be rationally conjectured he was not suckled by his Mothers milk but by a Foster Nurse otherwise certainly he would not have omitted so Essentiala Worth of the Church of England and the rather for that he might with ease have proved That when the Body of this Kingdom began to shake off that Spiritual Slavery imposed on our Ancestors by the Romish Yoke they then lay under the alteration that then was made by the Governours and Government of this Nation was the nearest and most agreeable by the Articles Cannons and Injunctions then agreed and established to the Apostolical Rule and pursuant to Dr. Tayler's Judgment therein as they could For that our Religion should solely depend upon humane Law it must be and may be as changeable as that of which I am sure we and our Ancestors have had woful Experience as by Repeals of Statutes for that purpose in the Reign of Queen Mary witness Another Vulgar Errour I conceive him with some clearness gullty of is in calling the Church of England the only Protestant Religion aimed at in this Case by the Papists Indeed I have heard once the Question was debated amongst Persons of an higher Sphere than Mr. L'Estrange what the Protestant Religion was and it was thought fit to be left undetermined and doubtless not imprudently for if we should make that the Basis of the Religion of the Church of England it would give our Adversaries the Papists a vast and inevitable Advantage for if History be in that Case to be depended upon the Lutherans the Calvinists c. were before the Church of England under the denomination of Protestants and I do doubt it will appear if it should be brought into dispute they differ in many and main Points but then the Consequence would inevitably follow that we must be put to prove which is the true one another advantage the Papists would have and which I have heard often made use of That they I mean the Church of Rome are the Mother Church and of many hundreds of years before the Church of England and doubtless they may be too hard for us in that Point if our Foundation begun only in Protestantism but in truth the Foundation of our Apostolical British Church which is fully clearly and elegantly proved and made out by the Learned and Judicious Author of the Book intituled of the Heart and its right Sovereign to be ancienter than Rome's especially here in this Nation by many Centuries of Years and for his saying by your Evidence it appears the Fanaticks as he calls them are to be Papists Auxiliaries and therefore it s not rational they the Papists would work their Ruine It 's true according to the Common and Vulgar term you in your Depositions call it the Protestant Religion indefinitely but why this must not concern all manner of Dissenters from the Romish Church I am sure does not in the least appear nor can any other thing rationally be expected but the extirpation of all Dissenters from them of Rome without distinction nor is it proved by you Doctor the Jesuitical Party endeavoured to make any other use of them but as all Conquerors do to divide their Dissenters to facilitate their intended Enterprize if so then his unchristian like Censure must of necessity be unwarrantable and groundless Dear Doctor I must beg your pardon for my prolixity upon this Paragraph but finding this the Author's Corner-Stone I could not pass it over slightly being so really zealous for the ancient British Apostolical Religion that as God was heretofore pleased to honour this Island to have the first Christian King and a British Woman to be Mother of the first Christian

AN Additional Discovery OF Mr. ●OGER L'ESTRANGE HIS FURTHER DISCOVERY OF THE Popish Plot WHEREIN Dr. TITUS OATES And the rest of the King's Evidences ARE VINDICATED From the Aspersions cast upon them in that PAMPHLET TOGETHER With some New Observations upon the said Discovery not heretofore Publisht In a Letter to Dr. Titus Oates By B. W. LONDON Printed in the Year 1680. SIR I Having been lately presented by a Friend with a Pamphlet entituled A further Discovery of the Plot Dedicated to your self Doctor by Roger L'Estrange and called the Second Edition I have perused the same and weighed it seriously and considering the Consequences thereof as it is full of gross Mistakes Fallacies Equivocations and Ironies both in the Title Page and Body of it I have spent a few leisure hours to make my Observations upon it which I recommend to your better Judgment In the Title Page is imployed new Fact to deceive the Reader but the said Author's Subject is only his own fallacious inferences of part of your Fact as the Devil did by the Scriptures with our Saviour for his own Ends. In the beginning of his Epistle to your self as a Theam to work upon he sets up a man of straw a spawn of his own brain by charging you with saying That you told him he was a Papist and that he reported you were a Fanatick and upon this Foundation he frames his whole discourse good Gentleman as he says to discharge himself and you from those two Calumnies as he calls them and as a proof of this assertion if you will believe him he tells you It was improved by a couple of Nonsensical and Seditious Libels which he names in his Pamphlet as also give you the style and character of the Author by hearsay a small thread-bare Sollicitor in the Old Bayly which as he says often uses your name and makes bolder with it than stands with the Dignity of your Figure in the Government It seems he would monopolize the abusing of you but this I take to be a much more unequal coupling than was by Doctor Wilde between Monsueir L'Estrange and Strange Lee For whether or no there be any such Sollicitor there or if there be that he was Author of such things or if he was that it was with your privity or knowledge which is thereby plainly and strongly implied but aspersedly and groundlesly insinuated is altogether uncertain and I am satisfied will hardly be found true by a packt Jury to use his own Phrase upon that Evidence of his and for the truth of it I doubt he cannot find a Second Then the Author proceeds to tell you he is reviled by being called a Papist a Lessener of the Plot a Disparager of the King's Evidence which he cannot bear but resolves either frankly to acquit himself or sinke under it and I appeal to your self and every impartial man if by that Book he merits not the latter and also the same reward he allows due to his fellow Scribler though upon several Foundations and I am sure the unerring Rule is he that is not with is against I think the Author conceives he hath done you Doctor no small honour to make you his Ghostly Father and indeed it 's enforced very vigorously by an imprecation of his hopes of Heaven and therefore he thinks you cannot without breach of the Rules of Charity but believe he is a true Son of the Church of England Indeed Doctor I cannot foresee why you should doubt of the Veracity of this Assertion seeing you have it from the mouth of one that never brake Faith with Man or Woman nor ever betrayed any unless you mean to have further and more demonstrable Evidence before you lend him your belief for in these Cases I know you generally direct your Judgment by the infallible Rule of our blessed Saviour that Trees must be known best by their Fruit not their Leaves if so then give me your patience further to acquaint you with my Sentiments of this his second Elaborate Work and see what I can find how he hath made good his Title Page or his Assertion and how good a Son Mr. L'Estrange hath proved himself thereby to his Mother the Church of England He says he is not without Bowels of humanity to men of other perswasions but I am perswaded one that dares not take upon himself to affirm he deserves such a Title with that Epithite he challenges yet would àlso allow them Bowels of Christianity but I know there are various degrees of Members in a true Church as Babes and others of a stronger constitution but I shall not determine by his expressions which of them I take the Author but leave that to more discerning Judgments He pretends to be mighty plain and open hearted to you for he tells you as a Friend as he saith he hath moxe Charity for a Moral Pagan than twenty Hypocritical Christians I shall not give you any trouble of my thoughts who this worthy Author means either by Pagan or Christian but only assure you if it were true this is one of the main parts of his Discovery in that Pamphlet especially as to me for indeed I have not learned that distinction of a Christian afore but always from the Woes pronounced in Scripture against Hypocrites I took them not to be Christians This kind Author says he hath a natural Veneration for the Government and all that love it the King 's Loyal Witnesses and Preservers of his Life he believes the Plot as much of it as every good Subject ought nay and pawns his Conscience which doubtless is large you do not believe more of it for all this give me leave to tell you Doctor I am of a quite contrary opinion for I know you are of a sharper sight than to have your Judgment eclipsed with a Fogg yet truly upon the whole Scope and Matter of his Discourse in that Pamphlet I am satisfied he could not though I know others do and would and know they ought have afforded more than a natural veneration for all those things but I may tell you Doctor though not the Author lest I should be offensive to hi● natural Judgment That things of God as I take this in a great measure to be are not to be rightly understood by meer natural men and in that capacity only he must herein be certainly apprehended as may more fully be deduced from his following Words that he cannot believe what he does not nor cannot as that Bedingfield is alive again and what is this to you and what can rationally be deduced from it but that a Crack-fart of the Nation having stuffed it into his Fardel without any privity of yours for ought appears it must be made use of as a Reflection upon you and truly this as strongly Seconded by a Learned Instance of buttered Turnips but it 's a very slippery one and indeed as saucy as all the rest and of as little moment with men of sound

amongst all Parties whatsoever nay and by his own shewing as he puts the case they may be as secure amongst the members of the Church of England nay and more than the Dissenters from the Church of England for although he says because many of the Dissenters will not take Oaths therefore there the Jesuites c. may hide themselves so also he says many of the Jesuites and Papists will take the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy and so will the members of the Church of England if so then what can hinder the Jesuites c. to herd and hide there Into what Confusion hath this Author brought us if all his Suppositions be true but certainly had the Earl of Castlemain the Countess of Powis John Gadbury Mris. Celier and their accomplices been of Opinion that their Security had lain amongst the Dissenters to the Church of England they would not have been so injurious to them as to have endeavoured to have turned the Plot upon them and besides its to all rational men a strange Proof against this Authors Assertion in that particular for if the Jesuites c. herd only amongst Dissenters from the Church of England and they had been their fellow-Conspirators or Agents in the Plot It could not be unknown to them and then certainly there had not been such necessity as they conceived to go about by desperate and false Oaths to make them either Authors Abetters or Contrivers of the Plot and doth it not evidently and plainly Demonstrate the Contrary for had those Assertions been true this Author would have you Doctor and the world believe in that particular surely there had not needed a Sham-Plot to bring the Dissenters from the Church of England into the real Plot for had it been true it might have been proved by other means but yet to this day there is not one man of the dissenters from the Church of England come to my knowledge that is either charged with or detected of any such thing unless the Authors bare word be to be taken for granted so that though the Jesuites and Priests have according to your Depositions endeavoured to draw them in yet have they not prevailed for what appears so that for ought I can preceive its undeniable that the Saddle was and is upon the right Horse and then all his Queries of if's or not's fall to the ground and needs not any answer but what is before upon the like questions But that the Dissenters from the Church of England have Jesuites and Priests actually amongst them doth not by your's or any other deposition proof or experience whatsoever appear there is any or if there be that they have not wrought any Influence at all upon them or at least such an one as may from the Government merit a total Extirpation which the Author strongly presses for but I presume an healing Plaister is better But he having been heretofore accustomed to Write new's-new's-Books thought his book would not appear authentick or at least would not be vendable without an advertisment annexed to it which Advertisment is indeed as much to the purpose and Coherent to the Subsequent matter of his Pamphlet as comes just to nothing and truly he is so Ingenious as to tell you so for he says in the close of it that its Forraign to the Subject of his Pamphlet but more Accomodate to the Season But for my part I think its Forraign to both for it is that the Subjects right of Petitioning hath been of late in such manner asserted as if his Majesty had no right of refusing and then answers it with some Instances from Edward the Third to Henry the Eight of Granting and Refusing I know not his Author nor I believe he did not for that Assertion for if he had certainly he would have named him But if any one did so he was to blame and was I suppose as much under a mistake as the Author is in his Pamphlet and the Subject matter of it for I take it to be undoubred that the person or Power that may be petitioned to hath a power of granting and denying as for instance if a Party of his friends should in a petition to his Majesty set forth according to their apprehension his merits by his Pamphlet and pray a reward for him his Majesty might refuse it and on the other hand if you Doctor and others by petition to his Majesty should set forth how he hath traduced his Majesty the Government and the Kings Witnesses in his said Pamphlet and pray that the same and he might be left to the Law to be punished according to their demerits the same might and would be granted but in regard he could not or at least would not make a further Discovery of that Damnable and hellish Plot Discovered by you give me leave to tell you if he could have been convinced by any other Evidence or Testimony than Dives and his brethren how he might have done it by publishing to the world as the truth is that the singer of God hath been in this Discovery of your's throughout for it cannot proved be that you Doctor had the least advice or assistance of any one man to guide or help you to contrive the way you took and was to take and that with eminent danger and vast hazard and great difficulty for the making your self Master of this Discovery in less than a year That you had not the least advice or assistance of any one man to help you to contrive the time the way and method how to publish this Discovery to Authority but came barely and nakedly to it yea and with a proof in your mouth from those you were to discover you nor any one else should be credited That when many of the material measures you had proposed to your self and depended upon to make good and for the manifestation of your Discovery as Coleman's latter Papers Langhorne's Papers the foreign Pacquets were removed and you deprived of them and by reason thereof barely stood as a single Witness and inevitable ruine and destruction ghastly and grimly staring in your face yet your Spirits were supported and you not at all discouraged from sticking to the truth But then the Jesuitical Party being infatuated and raging with madness must needs to hide their Villanies as all notorious Sinners commonly do by committing another Sin so did they by committing that barbarous and inhumane Murther of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey which proved otherwise than they designed it for instead of suppressing the Discovery of the Plot it did as it were give a new life to what you had delivered Then doubtless moved by the same spirit you were did not the then Representatives of the Nation unanimously by their Votes testifie their credit of your Evidence Then by the same hand apparently were sent in to your assistance and confirmation Mr. Bedlow Mr. Dugdale and many others who have proved many other particulars and concurred in the general to a tittle with you That until you and the rest of the Witnesses in this Hellish and Damnable Plot had been made use of at a publick Trial you did not converse or associate with one another as can be proved by a multitude of authentick Witnesses so far as is provable in a negative and I am confident cannot be proved in the affirmative That not any two of you that are the King's Witnesses in that Plot or any part of it were of any Familiarity or acquaintance before your being ingaged in that business and you all lived remote from one another and although you do not all swear to the same particulars yet do concurr in the whole as to the generality of the Plot. That not any one of them but your self who for some short time was under a necessity to counterfeit your self a Papist These things Doctor I only mention to put you in mind by what hand you as I conceive have been supported in this Discovery and to shew you according to my apprehension what improbability nay I may say impossibility there is that this Discovery of yours of this Hellish Plot is in the least any thing of an invention or contrived Design by you but is pure matter of Fact and of undeniable verity and not to be so slighted as that invention of Beddingfields being alive again All which I was prompted to as I conceived as a Duty incumbent upon me upon and by the obligation of the Loyalty I truly owe to my natural Prince the real veneration I have for the Government and true Christian Religion and Justice of the Nation the Cordial Love I have to my faithful fellow-Subjects and my profess'd and faithful Friendship to your self and therefore keep up your Spirits and be not dismayed or in the least discouraged for it is my opinion and I hope not without good grounds and presume I may with reverence and without offence say it unless to the tender ears of some captious Masquerade and strange Sons of the Church of England that God will neither forsake you nor this Cause but in despite of all opposition will therein glorifie himself and in truth set up the Kingdom of his Son But give me leave to tell you my Judgment that if this Author's Assertions and Arguments Your Cordial Friend B. W. FINIS