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A07803 A direct answer vnto the scandalous exceptions, which Theophilus Higgons hath lately obiected against D. Morton In the which there is principally discussed, two of the most notorious obiections vsed by the Romanists, viz. 1. M. Luthers conference with the diuell, and 2. The sence of the article of Christ his descension into hell. Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 18181; ESTC S103393 25,429 38

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