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A25430 Memoirs of the Right Honourable Arthur, Earl of Anglesey, late lord privy seal intermixt with moral, political and historical observations, by way of discourse in a letter : to which is prefixt a letter written by his Lordship during his retirement from court in the year 1683 / published by Sir Peter Pett, Knight ... Anglesey, Arthur Annesley, Earl of, 1614-1686.; Pett, Peter, Sir, 1630-1699. 1693 (1693) Wing A3175; ESTC R3838 87,758 395

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egonum quoddam Elementum Haec Hosius Eodem prorsus spiritu atquè animo quo olim Montanus aut Marcio quos diunt solitos esse dicere cum sacras scripturas contemptive repudiarent se multo plura Meliora scire quàm aut Christus unquam scivisset aut Apostoli Quid ergo hic dicam O columina religionis O praesides Ecclesiae Christianae An haec ea reverentia vestra est quam adhibetis verbo Dei And afterward saith aut illud verbum quo uno ut Paulus ait reconciliamur Deo quodque propheta David ait sanctum castum esse in omne tempus esse duraturum egenum tantum mortuum elementum appellabitis I have not time to Consult the Works of Whitaker and Downham as Cited by the French Clergy But do find that by Iewells Citing Pighius and likewise Hosius to make good his Charge the French Clergy knew why and wherefore to spare Iewell 's Name in their Class of Calumniators Iewell in his Margent Cites Pighius in Hierarchia and in his Margent referring to Hosius saith very candidly Haec Hosius in lib. de expresso verbo dei sed astutè sub alterius personâ Quamvis ipse aliàs eadem in eodem etiam libro disertis verbis affirmet They afterward referred to our Learned Rainolds as a Calumniator under their 6 th Article and Cite him for saying that Roman Catholicks do call the Virgin Mary Queen of Heaven And they might if they had pleas'd have call'd to mind that in the proper Mass of her seven Sorrows she is called Caeli Regina Mater Mundi and that in an Office where the Te Deum is Travesty'd to her and which Office the Present Pope hath worthily Suppress'd she is called the Queen of Glory But as to their charging our Ames under their Seventh Article with Calumny for saying in his Bellarminus enervatus the Pope was the ILLE Antichristus I shall make no remark on their Charge but let it pass There was however another thing that I could not but take notice of in that Book of the French Clergy that made their accusing the Writers of the Reformed Religion as Calumniators and Falsifiers of the Doctrine of the Church seem to me very severe Namely that Clergy's joyning the Decisions of the Council of Trent with the Profession of their Faith and noting in one Columne that profession and the Articles of the Council of Trent and there making the Doctrine of their Church a result from both and opposing thereunto in another Columne the Calumny's in the Writings of the Reform'd and yet by the Date of the Impressions of many of those Writings as mentioned at the end of that Book it appears they were Printed long before the year 1615. and some before the year 1579. in which latter year Cressy in his Epistle Apologetical to the Late Earl of Clarendon voucheth but to no effect as I shall by and by shew that De Marca in his Volume De Concordiâ Sacerdotij Imperij tells us the Definitions of Faith of the Council of Trent were admitted by a publick Edict concerning the same in France and as to which former year Cabassutius an Oratorian in his Notitia concil declares out of the Records of the French Clergy that in their General Assembly at Paris in the year 1615. the Canons of the Doctrine of the Council of Trent were unanimously received by the whole Clergy And in p. 6. of the Translated Book of the French Clergy a Book of Beza's is cited as printed in the year 1576 and one of Luther's printed in the year 1558. and one of Melanchton's in the year 1552 to shew them Calumniators of the Doctrine of the Council of Trent as the Received Doctrine in the Gallican Church And whether the many other Authors there cited as printed before the year 1615 and yet too Cited as Calumniating for injuring the Trent Doctrines as being those of the Gallican Church were not likewise severely dealt with is left to the impartial to Judge and to whose view of that Book of the French Clergy it will be obvious that the profession of Faith inserted at the end of the Council of Trent is brought in in the beginning of that Clergy's Representing the Doctrine of the Church I love not to be Curious in alienâ Republicâ and much more not to be so in alienâ Ecclesiâ But since the Acts of that Clergy have been made to speak English here and so without Licence to Travel about our Country I cannot but occasionally make a further Remark on the Severity of that Clergy in taking it ill of the Protestants there supposing that the Catholick Church Disguiseth or Condemneth the most Essential verity's of Religion and Representing her under the Hideous idea of a Society professing an impious Doctrine and denying the chiefest Articles of Faith since as I said that it was but in the year 1615. that the Canons of the Council of Trent were pretended to be unanimously received by the whole French Clergy at Paris and that it was but a year before that the SAME Clergy as I find it observ'd by the Author of The Difference between the Church and Court of Rome p. 31. referred to the Account of what was done upon the meeting of the three Estates and when Cardinal Perron being the Clergy's Spokes Man told the King that The Matter contested was a point of Doctrine c. and that the Power of the Pope was full nay most full and direct in Spirituals and indirect in temporals c. and that they would Excommunicate all those who were of a contrary Opinion to the Proposition which affirm'd the Pope could depose the King c. and for which 't is there Cited how the Pope by a Breve in that year 1615. returned his Solemn thanks to the Clergy of France for what they had done against the Articles of the 3d. Estate wherein his Power was concern'd The use I make of this is only to shew that the present French Clergy who no doubt are Conscious of the Error of their Predecessors in such a DOCTRINE wherein Religion and Loyalty are concerned were obliged to shew all the Tenderness and Compassion to their Frail and Fallible Brethren not Erring in a Point of that Nature but only in such as were Subject to Controversy I shall here observe that Cressy in the Book aforesaid reflects on the late Earl of Clarendon for saying in p. ●48 of his Vindication of Dr. Stilling-fleet that the Council of Trent is not yet received in France and in many other Catholick Country's and saith to the Earl under favour Honoured Sir you will I suppose grant that the late Famous and Learned Arch-Bishop of Paris Peter de Marca was better informed in the Ecclesiastical State of France than your self a Stranger and quotes the Volume of De Marca before mentioned lib. 2. cap. 17. S. 6. for Writing expresly that the Definitions of Faith
wrote And I believe had not a Learned and Prudent Friend of mine of the Church of England told me that my being thus accessory to the publishing of your Fathers Laudatory Acknowledgments of my performance was as much consistent with the Laws of Modesty as is many grave and wise Authors prefixing Commendatory Verses or Prose-testimonials from others before their works and for which purpose he told me of Mr. Hobbes having before a philosophical and political Work of his printed some excellent verses of Dr. Bathurst and of Dr. Templer having printed some of another before his admirable Confutation of Leviathan and withal represented it to me that I was in Conscience bound to the supporting the Honour of our Church by the publishing the New Matter contained in your Fathers Book against popery and likewise to the supporting the Justice of our Compassion for the sufferings of our Brethren in France by the Bigottry of the French Clergy upon the account of their not owning the Faith of the Council of Trent your Fathers Book beyond all other Writings published so clearly shewing it out of the most Authentick Histories that that Council was never published and received in France I should have been inclined to have Transmitted this incomparable Discourse of his Lordship to have lived only in the Archives of the Oxford-Library And so chiefly by the weight of this latter Consideration I have held my self obliged to make it publick And I doubt not but all protestants and especially our Divines of the Church of England will bid it welcome to the World But My Lord I am to crave your Lordships Pardon for thus long detaining your thoughts from the Great and Noble ones of your Fathers in the following Discourse and will no longer offend therein than by Subscribing my self My Lord Your Lordships most Faithful and most Humble Servant P. Pett July 17. 1693. From my Tusculanum Totteridge Iuly 18. 1683. Sir Peter Pett I Obeyed your Commands in giving the great Sr. George Ent a taste of my villa fare I hope you seasoned it with your wonted good discourse I envy you nothing of your Happiness but that I had not a part in it for I delight in nothing more than such Company from whom I ever part the better and the wiser I acknowledge the favour in the two Sheets you sent me which were so far from satisfying me that they served but to whet my appetite to desire that you would after so long an expectation given ultimam manum ponere to that work wherein you do pingere aeternitati and from which it is pitty the publick should be with-held longer I remember after Cicero's incomparable parts and learning had advanced him in Rome to the highest Honours Offices of that famous Common wealth that by Caesars Vsurpations upon the publick there was no longer place either in the Senate or Hall of Iustice for the Romanum Eloquium he had made so much his Study and wherein he had before Caesar himself shewed how much he excelled he betook himself wholy to the common consolation of wise Men in distress the use and practice of Philosophy and therein with an industry and stile answerable to the diviness of the purpose undertook for the benefit of all Ages the most Religious and Sacred part of Philosophy the Nature of the God-Head wherein amidst a cloud of various and opposite errours and the thick darkness of a benighted ignorance he acquitted himself to admiration insomuch that I may account him as some great Authors have done the Divine Philosopher as well as Seneca And if I had reason to doubt what his opinion might be concerning a Deity or whether his works evince not the true Deity and Religion yet I am sure they tend strongly to the overthrowing the False Which the very worshippers of those ignoti Dei were so sensible of that they conspired the Destruction of this work of his insomuch that in the Reign of Dioclesian that great Bigott as I may call him of the Heathenish Idolatry and the Enemy of the Christian Religion these three Books De naturâ Deorum and his other two of Divination were publickly burnt in company with the writings of the Christians Anno Christi 302. as most famous Chronologers and others have recorded In particular Arnobius sharply tho then no Christian inveighs against the burners of these Books of Cicero in these words viz. But before all others Tully the most Eloquent of the Romans not fearing the imputation of Impiety with great Ingenuity Freedom and Exactness shews what his thoughts were and yet saith he I hear of some that are much transported against these Books of his and give out that the Senate ought to Decree the abolishing of them as bringing countenance to the Christian Religion and impairing the Authority of Antiquity rather said he if you believe you have ought certain to deliver as to your Deities convince Cicero of Error confute and explode his evil Doctrine For to destroy Writings or go about to hinder the common Reading of them is not to defend the Gods but to be afraid of the Testimony of Truth Thus far Arnobius And I could not leave Cicero and his Books in a more illustrious place than amidst those bright flames wherein the Divine writings were consumed For what greater Honour than for him to be joyned with Christ in the same cause and punishment I should not have so far advanced the pattern of Cicero in a Christian Kingdom but that we are so far degenerated from the primitive ones that Tullyes Morality if not Divinity goes beyond us When the Age is Receptive of better examples though you need them not I should willingly insinuate them to others Now if by the beginnings of Persecution in France and other parts and the dangerous Divisions and Circumstances at home we seem to be hurrying to the like sad times you may guess what makes me embrace so much a Country life as Cicero did and that from the Noise and Contrivances of a croud in the City I am retired to the sweet quiet of a Tusculanum and to converse with the dead qui non mordent and if I declare I should be glad among the Tombs of such company as you and other my good friends that perhaps in kindness to me think me wanting there you will believe me no ill chooser for my self and I hope squander away some time upon a friend You see I give a beginning to our entercourse wherein you were not wont to flinch and when you write to Bugden pray let the Learned and good Bishop know I am as much his as ever tho the whole Body of Papists seem now to be confuting his before Iudged irrefragable Book and bring in the protestants by Head and Shoulders to what he evinced were their Maxims and practice so that now Mutato nomine de nobis fabula narratur But the God of truth in the thing wherein they deal proudly and falsly will shew himself
Quotation out of Cyprian with these words viz. Si ante adventum Christi haec praecepta servata sunt quanto magis post adventum servanda sunt quando ille veniens non verbis tantum nos hortatus est sed factis By which words he would prove that our Lord did both by Words and Deeds exhort us to Kill Hereticks Whereas there is not one word in Cyprian or the Texts of Scripture he Cites which any way concerns Hereticks or Heresie but only Idolaters and Idolatry which are things of a far different Nature And had Gratian considered what immediately follows there in Cyprian and which he there unluckily leaves out he might have clearly seen that Cyprian neither said nor meant that the Meek and the Holy Iesus did by Deeds or Words Exhort Men to kill Hereticks But that which Cyprian truly saith our Blessed Saviour did by Deeds and Words Exhort us to was that Christians should patiently suffer and by no means renounce the Gospel by serving Idols and by Idolatry For as to those words with which Gratian ends his Canon viz Christus veniens non verbis tantum nos hortatus est sed factis there should have been only a Comma after factis though Gratian makes a full point as if it concluded the Sentence It immediately follows in Cyprian thus viz. Non verbis tantum nos hortatus sit sed factis post omnes Injurias contumelias passus Crucifixus ut nos pati mori exemplo suo doceret ut nulla sit homini excusatio pro se pro Christo non patienti Cum ille passus sit pro nobis c. In short that which Cyprian saith Christ taught us with Words and Deeds was not that we should Kill Hereticks as Gratian would have it but that we should willingly suffer Death for the Gospel rather than be Idolaters We know that in the case of the Samaritans who were both Hereticks and Idolaters when Iames and Iohn would have had fire from Heaven to Consume them our Blessed Saviour Rebuked them and said that the Son of Man was not come to destroy Mens Lives but to save them Because I love to make no breach among Christians wider and because in p. 260. you have in general mentioned Gratian's Misciting of Cyprian and in p. 261. shewed that Gratian's founding a Tenet on Cyprian or any places out of other Authors giveth it only the weight that Cyprian and they had in their proper Works c. I have here thought it worth while to shew that Papists are under no Moral Obligation by this Canon Si audieris and do believe that the more Sagacious Persons of the Church of Rome do as is said in Pere verons Book you in the page last cited refer to make Gratian's Decrees and the gloss claime nothing of Faith and so even in the country 's of the Pope where the Canon Law is in force this part of the Decrees so wilfully mistaken by Gratian out of Cyprian can bind none in Conscience And therefore as to what you mention of the Roman Catholick Gentlemans observing that the Council of Trent had gone far in the Confirmation of the Canon Law c. I account you have said enough to Answer that Objection For though the Council of Trent hath it in the 25 th Session C. 20. De Reformatione p 623 624. of the Edition at Antwerp in the year 1033 that Praecipit sancta synodus sacros canones concilia generalia omnia necnon alias Apostolicas sanctiones in favorem Ecclesiasticarum personarum libertatis Ecclesiasticae contra ejus violatores editas quae omnia praesenti decreto innovat exactè ab omnibus observari debere tho' other expressions in that Council may seem to confirm some parts of the Canon Law they cannot I think Rationally be extended to confirm any thing therein that was void ab initio and so not obligatory and as this Canon Si audieris appears not to be by Gratians falsification as to Cyprian But how far a Tenet or Principle of this Nature branded by no Index expurgatorius is yet chargeable on the Papacy as approved by it I leave to consideration and do think it great pitty that when a Pope could find leisure by a Bull that I find King Iames the I. mentions in his Works as beginning with Exurge Deus to Damn among other sayings that of Luther Nova vita est optima paenitentia he did not find time to censure this thing in his Canon Law I thank God that I am Embarqued in a Church whose Articles and Canons contain nothing inserted in them by any Falsarius and by which nothing is approved or imposed on me to own contrary to the Liberty purchased for me by my Redeemer You have in p. 71. cited a late Author of the Communion of this Church for saying that Image-Worship invocation of Saints Transubstantiation Purgatory are and will be Learnedly and Voluminously defended on each side to the Worlds End and perhaps in the World abroad it will be so But I agree with you in believing that the Present State of England doth and probable future one of it will here render Voluminous Writings of all Theological Controversies out of Fashion Your p. 170. contains in it one Theological consideration of more value in my Opinion than many Tomes of Controversy viz. that Papists as well as others of Mankind have a right and title to the free and undisturbed Worshipping of God and the confession of the Principles of Religion purchased for them by the Blood of Christ And the very consideration of the Duty incumbent on all Christians to stand fast in this Liberty so dearly purchased for them would if I were in the External Communion of the Roman Catholick Church prevail with me to leave it though there were perhaps no other Argument in the case I have here our great Dr. Iackson on my side in thus Judging in his Treatise of the Church 14th Chapter where having given two Reasons as just and necessary for which Men may and ought to separate themselves from any visible Church and named this as the first Namely when they are urged and constrained to profess or believe some points of Doctrine or to adventure upon some practices which are contrary to the Rule of Faith or Love of God he mentions this as the Second viz. In case they are utterly deprived of Freedom of Conscience in professing what they inwardly believe c. for which he quotes 1 Cor. 7.23 ye are bought with a price be not ye Servants of Men. Although saith he we were perswaded that we could communicate with such a Church without evident danger of Damnation yet in as much as we cannot Communicate with it upon any better Terms than Legal Servants or Bondslaves do with their Masters we are bound in Conscience and Religious Discretion when lawful occasions and opportunities are offered to use our liberty and to seek our Freedom rather than to
of the Council of Trent were admitted by a publick Edict made concerning the same matter in the year 1579 but that the Decrees which regard discipline are not received in France because they are not ratified by the Law of the Prince although the Chief Heads which do not infringe the received Customs and Ancient Rights of the Gallican Church are Comprehended in Regal Constitutions several times published concerning that matter Which thing how grateful and acceptable it was to Pope Clement the 8 th is testified by the late King Henry the Great in his Rescript of the year 1606. And then he Quotes Cabassutius his Notitia Concil in fine for the purpose I have mentioned before and declaring out of the Records of the French Clergy viz. that in their General Assembly at Paris in the year 1615. the Canons of the Doctrine of the Council of Trent were unanimously received by the whole Clergy Father Cressy then farther addeth by way of Triumph over the supposed mistake in the said Earl in p. 131. of that Epistle And long before that even from the rising of the said Council each particular Bishop had received it in their Respective Diocesan Synods Thus Sir you see a sufficient Reception of the Faith delivered by the Council of Trent in France both by Authority Episcopal and Regal I must not here forbear to take notice that if it were true what Cressy alledgeth namely that from the ri●ing of the said Council the French Bishops did receive it in their Respective Diocesan Synods before any PVBLISHING of it by the French King and not staying for the same they made such a kind of Invasion of the Regal power in France Namely by introducing Religionary Establishments without ITS Authority as was never practis'd by our English Clergy since the Reformation nor perhaps before it and such as the French Clergy cannot charge the pretended Reform'd with For their Petition to the King doth in p. 3. mention their i. e. the pretended Reformed having been by Edicts permitted the Exercise of their Religion and the Freedom of Acting in their Synods as they have done But this by the way If we consider the time of the very Professio fidei that the Acts of the French Clergy speak of being first own'd and that in the year 1564 the time likewise of the Confirmation of the Trent Council and which was not made nor Composed by the French Clergy but by the Direction of the Trent-Fathers and Published by Pope Pius the 4 th in the year last mentioned must it not seem hard that Luthers Book printed as was mentioned in the year 1558 and that of Melanchton's printed in the year 1562 and before the Date of their very Profession of Faith should be brought in as Calumniating it When any had a Triumph Decreed them in the Old Common Wealth of Rome the Writers of such Solemnities tell us the Custom was Vt à militibus abjectissimis quibuscunque triumphalem currum sequentibus diversis triumphantes Convicijs incesserentur nè prosperâ illâ fortunâ plus justo insolescerent But the new Church of Rome I mean the Tridentine one in France will bear no Raillery nor Calumny of Words nor yet any to ask them when and by whom their Triumph was Decreed them and if their Doctrine was Crown'd Lawfully And methinks as if Nature and its God meant that all should ludibrium debere that would Triumph over Fallibility in what Church soever Our Honest Monk whom I lately mentioned as Decreeing himself a Triumph over that great observer of all things he referr'd to I mean the late Earl of Clarendon had in his Triumphant Chariot the usual Compliment of that Solemnity viz. Hominem te esse cogita there put on him by Nature And one might to him Cite D' Ossats Letters and with some Allusion to his Words to the Earl of Clarendon say that he supposed that that Cardinal understood the State of the Council of Trent relating to France as well as any one and much better than De Marca or any one else who would make its definitions of Faith admitted in France by an Edict in the year 1579. Let any one for this purpose who pleases look on D' Ossats Letter from Rome the 19 th of November 1596 to Villeroy where he adviseth that the Council of Trent might be Publisht in France and mentions that the Clergy of France had often desired a Publication of it and saith that the Huguenots by reason of the Edict of 77. would not be prejudiced by such publication and on another Letter to Villeroy from Rome on the 19 th of February 1597 where he again presseth for the publication of that Council and saith of it La publication sans l' observation pourroit plus que l' observation sans la publication and that the Courts of Parliament and others would have no cause of complaint thereupon and that a Salvo of two or three Lines would be a remedy against any complaints and on his long Letter from Rome the 28 th of March 1599. to Henry the Fourth where he minds him from the Pope that the Councel of Trent might be Published and saith Que la pluspart des Catholiques ceux qui plus peuvent Comme les Parlemens les Chapitres les principaux Seigneurs ne veulent point du dit Concile pour n' avoir point à laisser les benefices incompatibles les confidences autres abus quae la Reformation portee par le dit Concile osteroit and on his Letter from Rome the last of March 1599. to Villeroy Animating him to promote the Publication of that Council and where he saith I never knew that that Council prejudic'd any Regal Right as some say it hath done but though it might prejudice it in some point it might however be publisht with adding thereto such a Salvo as we could have Namely as to the Prerogative and Preeminences of the Crown the Authority of the King the Liberties and Franchises of the Gallican Church the Indults of the Court of Parliament and the Edicts of Pacification and all other things that we would have excepted and on his long Letter to Henry the Fourth from Rome of Iune the 11 th 1601. where mentioning his excusatory replies to the Pope about the not publishing that Council he saith that not only the Hereticks but a great part of the Catholicks were against it and that his Holiness might remember how Henry the Fourth's Predecessors could never be brought to publish that Council I might here mention how Father Paul in his History of the Venetian Interdict p. 4. and 48. tells us that the Trent Council was not received in France in the year 1616 and that Thuanus assures us that the Trent Council was not received in France in the year 1588 and therefore not in the year 1579. according to De Marca For that excellent and most Faithful Historian Tome the 4 th lib. 93. p. 361.
or any Act that shews us that it hath been truly received and publisht for according to the Rules of Right a Council cannot Faire Loy if it hath not been published But if any one were minded to speak Argumentatively and shew that the French do not now receive the Trent Council no not in rebus fidei he might urge 1. That the whole Clergy of France in their Assembly March 19. 1682. declared that a Council is above the Pope 2. That he hath no Power in Temporals in any Princes Dominions 3. That he hath no Power to Depose Princes 4. Nor to Absolve Subjects from their Oaths of Allegiance 5. That he is not infallible And though the Pope declared by his Bull Dated at Rome Apr. 11 th 1682. that those Acts of theirs were Null the words of Improbamus Rescindimus Cassamus c. being in the Bull yet the French King had before in his Edict of March 23. 1682. Registred in Parliament Ratified and Confirm'd them all Nor is it deniable that these 5 Propositions contradict many things in the Trent Council which are setled in it as Doctrinal Points And moreover 't is obvious to any one to observe that in the Acts of the General Assembly of the French Clergy in the year 1685. they Cite their new Trent Creed i. e. some PART of it For the last of it they cite is p. 38. of that Book and leave out the LAST part of that Creed which is contained in these words Caetera item omnia Sacris Canonibus aecumenicis Concilijs ac praecipuè à Sacro-Sanctà Tridentinà Synodo tradita definita declarata indubitanter recipio ac profiteor simulque Contraria omnia atque haereses quascunque ab Ecclesiâ damnatas rejectas Anathematizatas ego pariter rejicio damno Anathematizo Hanc veram Catholicam fidem extrà quam nemo salvus esse potest quam in praesente sponte profiteor veraciter teneo eandem integram usque ad extremum vitae Spiritum Constantissimè retinere confiteri atque ab illis quorum cura ad me in munere hoc spectabit teneri doceri praedicari quantum in me est curaturum Ego idem N. spondeo voveo juro c. These are the words which the French Clergy leave out in their Book above mentioned and they knew the Preservation of the Liberties of the Gallican Church obliged them to such omission For by this part of the Trent Creed they are bound to believe and profess Omnia à Concilio Tridentino tradita definita declarata and so not matters of Doctrine and Definitions of Faith only And 't is most plain that the Council intended both matters of Discipline and Doctrine And in the aforesaid words of the Trent Creed a firm Belief is required to be given omnibus in Concilijs oecumenicis traditis and then a long farewel to all their Liberties of the Gallican Church would ensue and their Sanctio Pragmatica which is the Authentick Comprehension of them is Damned by Leo the 10th approbante Concilio in the General Lateran Council It may be moreover said that the words above mentioned that the French Clergy left out of their Book are a part Fidei Catholicae extrà quam non est salus and therefore if the French do not receive as it seems they do not this part of the Trent Creed then it may very well be doubted whether they receiv'd the Definitions of Faith of the Tridentine Council as De Marca would have us believe The Trent Creed I have referred to is at the end of that Council in most of the Editions of it but in the Edition at Antwerp which is the best viz. Anno 1633 it is in the Body of the Council Ses. 24. p. 450 451. It here occurs to my thoughts to entertain yours out of Hoornbeck's Examen bullae Papalis Printed An. 1652. where in p. 42. speaking of the French Embassadors claiming the Honour of sitting before those of Spain he saith uti apparuit in Oratorum Galliae Regis Carol. 9. protestatione in Concilio Tridentino factâ An. 1563 quando secus fieret Oratores Hispan Regis post Imperatoris locum Caperent primum Cujus omnem Culpam in solum rejiciebant Papam Pium 4 tum Cujus aiebant imperium detrectamus quaecunque sint ejus judicia sententiae reijcimus respuimus contemnimus Et quanquam Patres Sanctissimi vestra omnium Religio vita eruditio magnae semper fuit erit apud nos auctoritatis cum tamen nihil a vobis Sed omnia magis Romae quam Tridenti agantur quae hic publicantur magis Pij 4 ti placita quam Concilij Tridentim decreta jure existimentur denunciamus protestamur quaecunque in hoc conventu hoc est toto Pij nutu voluntate decernuntur publicantur ea neque Regem Christianissimum probaturum neque Ecclesiam Gallicanam pro decreto oecumenici Concilij habituram Interea quot quot estis Galliae Archiepiscopi Episcopi Abbates Doctores Theologi vos omnes hinc abire Rex Christianissimus jubet redituros ut primum Deus opt max. Ecclesiae Catholicae in generalibus Concilijs anttquam formam libertatem restituerit Regi autem Christianissimo suam dignitatem Majestatem And he afterward in p. 192. desires that after those words dignitatem Majestatem may be added what followeth among the addenda there to his foregoing work viz. In Concilio Tridentino vehementer illa inter Gallos Hispanos agitabatur Contentio de praecedentiâ Non solum illis primum à legato Imperatoris locum petentibus sed nolentibus ut Orator Hispani Regis alio quo singulari loco ab illis sederet sed ordine post eos aliter se protestari non adversum legatos aut Philippum Regem aut Concilium aut Ecclesiam Romanam sed adversus ipsum Papam Pium 4 tum non pro legitimo illum habentes Papâ provocare se ad Concilium aliud liberum in Galliâ Cogendum Ubi illud facetum accidit quod quando adversus Oratoris Gallici expostulationem diceretur cum Scommate Gallus Cantat hic Concinne protinus respondit Vtinam illo Gallicinio Petrus ad resipiscentiam fletum excitaretur Illàque causa postmodum Gallis fuit inter alias quo minus Concilium Tridentinum in Regno Ecclesiis Gallicanis vel ejus publicatio admissa fuerit This Book of Hoornbeck was Printed at Vtrecht and the Papal Bull on which it very Learnedly Animadverts is that by which the Pope endeavour'd to Abrogate the Peace of Munster But to go on with my Assertion of the Non-reception of the Council of Trent in France I shall acquaint you that another considerable Author Namely My Lord Primate Bramhal who was an Exile in France in the time of the Vsurpation and whose observation penetrated as far into the Constitution of the Gallican Church as either F. Cressy's or any Man 's else