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nothing_o but_o visible_a christianity_n but_o to_o the_o other_o as_o there_o must_v be_v visible_a christianity_n so_o likewise_o a_o foregoing_a join_n of_o faithful_a people_n together_o in_o a_o spiritual_a outward_a society_n or_o body_n politic_a and_o unless_o this_o thing_n be_v strict_o observe_v there_o will_v follow_v many_o absurdity_n and_o great_a confusion_n this_o may_v be_v further_o illustrate_v by_o a_o similitude_n take_v from_o a_o corporation_n 2._o ephes_n 2._o to_o which_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v sometime_o compare_v we_o know_v that_o many_o who_o be_v no_o member_n thereof_o be_v man_n of_o good_a life_n peaceable_a quiet_a profitable_a worthy_a and_o fit_a enough_o to_o be_v of_o the_o company_n notwithstanding_o they_o partake_v not_o in_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o freedom_n until_o themselves_o by_o due_a order_n be_v become_v freeman_n argument_n ii_o to_o use_v those_o way_n and_o invention_n in_o worship_v god_n which_o be_v not_o command_v of_o god_n in_o his_o word_n be_v unlawful_a but_o god_n have_v not_o command_v in_o his_o word_n that_o any_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n shall_v baptize_v such_o infant_n who_o parent_n be_v without_o therefore_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o do_v it_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o reason_n be_v certain_a by_o the_o whole_a course_n of_o the_o scripture_n psal_n 119.113_o deut._n 12.8_o 1._o sam._n 15.22.23_o hos_fw-la 6.6_o leu._n 10.1.2_o mich._n 7.18_o jer._n 5.31_o 2._o chr._n 26.17.18.19.21_o num._n 3.4_o mar._n 7.8.9_o col_fw-fr 2.8.9_o mat._n 15.2_o to_o 12._o beside_o this_o be_v the_o constant_a sentence_n of_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n as_o they_o be_v term_v &_o our_o late_a best_o divine_n to_o wit_n that_o nothing_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v or_o approve_a in_o religion_n which_o can_v be_v prove_v &_o confirm_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o all_o tradition_n administration_n good_a intent_n and_o devise_n of_o man_n without_o approbation_n this_o way_n as_o vain_a hurtful_a and_o superstitious_a thing_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v thus_o write_v tertullian_n mar._n tertullian_n lib._n 4._o con_v mar._n origen_n ler._n origen_n hom._n 3._o in_o ler._n cyprian_n 3._o cyprian_n l._n 2._o ep._n 3._o basil_n 14._o basil_n moral_a sum._n c._n 14._o augustine_n paulin._n augustine_n epist_n 59_o ad_fw-la paulin._n chrisostom_n act._n chrisostom_n hom._n 39_o in_o act._n hilary_n 12._o hilary_n in_o mat._n cap._n 12._o eusaebeus_n 10._o eusaebeus_n li._n 5._o c._n 10._o theophilact_n 7._o theophilact_n in_o 1._o cor._n cap._n 7._o luther_n cap_a luther_n l._n de_fw-fr bab._n cap_a erasmus_n 11._o erasmus_n annot._n in_o mat._n 11._o zanchy_n 4_o zanchy_n in_o praec_fw-la 4_o simler_n 42._o simler_n de_fw-fr duab_n nat_n christ._n p._n 42._o d._n whitaker_n 5._o whitaker_n cont._n 4._o qu._n 5._o mr._n brinsley_n 28._o brinsley_n true_a watch_n p._n 28._o and_o other_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o reason_n be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o sun_n at_o noonday_n and_o can_v with_o any_o modest_a face_n be_v deny_v for_o we_o do_v not_o read_v any_o where_o throughout_o all_o god_n book_n that_o there_o be_v ever_o any_o such_o thing_n impose_v on_o the_o church_n of_o the_o apostolic_a constitution_n or_o that_o it_o be_v at_o any_o time_n practise_v in_o they_o argument_n iii_o if_o baptism_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n succee_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n then_o ought_v not_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v but_o such_o who_o parent_n be_v one_o at_o least_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o the_o major_n be_v without_o exception_n 2.11_o exception_n col_fw-fr 2.11_o grant_v of_o all_o both_o papist_n 19_o papist_n ferus_fw-la in_o mat._n 28._o v._n 19_o &_o protestant_n 53._o protestant_n aret._n com._n in_o col._n 2.11_o pet._n mart._n loc._n com._n class_n 2._o c._n 6._o p._n 400._o d._n willet_n come_v rom._n 6._o cont._n 6._o pag._n 303._o see_v before_o pag._n 53._o the_o minor_a be_v prove_v by_o proportion_n or_o parity_n thus_o as_o the_o jew_n in_o old_a time_n can_v not_o lawful_o circumcise_v any_o one_o except_o he_o be_v a_o member_n visible_o of_o their_o church_n so_o now_o under_o the_o gospel_n baptism_n administer_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v administer_v only_o unto_o the_o member_n thereof_o argument_n iu._n that_o which_o god_n have_v set_v a_o part_n to_o be_v a_o special_a sign_n of_o difference_n to_o distinguish_v the_o child_n of_o the_o church_n from_o they_o without_o ought_v to_o be_v give_v unto_o they_o only_o unto_o none_o else_o but_o god_n have_v set_v baptism_n apart_o for_o such_o a_o end_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o proposition_n be_v without_o all_o controversy_n the_o assumption_n be_v evident_a by_o these_o scripture_n gen_fw-la 17.7.8_o with_o col._n 2.11.12_o rom._n 9.4_o act._n 2.38.39_o and_o 16.15.33_o mat._n 28.19_o moreover_o this_o be_v acknowledge_v for_o a_o sound_a truth_n by_o many_o writer_n viz._n polanus_fw-la 51._o polanus_fw-la synta_n li._n 6._o c._n 51._o d._n ames_n 232._o ames_n de_fw-fr consc_fw-fr l._n 4._o c._n 27._o pag._n 232._o guilliandus_n 4._o guilliandus_n comm._n in_o rom._n 4._o v._n 4._o mr._n bifeild_n 57_o bifeild_n col._n 2._o v._n 12._o p._n 57_o the_o douai_n translator_n 15._o translator_n annot._n on_o gen._n 17._o &_o exod._n 15._o and_o other_o and_o in_o special_a excellent_o paraeus_n baptism_n say_v he_o 14._o he_o comm._n in_o 1._o cor._n 7._o 14._o be_v a_o worthy_a privilege_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o child_n thereof_o whereby_o they_o be_v decern_v from_o the_o child_n of_o unbeliever_n because_o they_o be_v repute_v from_o the_o womb_n in_o the_o holis_fw-la covenant_n with_o their_o parent_n and_o therefore_o be_v baptism_n the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n give_v they_o argument_n v._o what_o act_n soever_o god_n promise_v not_o to_o bless_v that_o may_v not_o be_v do_v but_o he_o promise_v not_o to_o bless_v the_o promiscuous_a baptise_v in_o question_n therefore_o it_o may_v not_o be_v do_v the_o second_o part_n be_v only_o controversall_a which_o i_o manifest_a thus_o if_o there_o be_v no_o precept_n nor_o example_n for_o it_o in_o holy_a record_n then_o there_o be_v no_o promise_n of_o blessing_n make_v to_o it_o but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o the_o second_o the_o premise_n of_o both_o part_n be_v so_o evident_a as_o that_o to_o use_v another_o man_n arg._n man_n mr._n brad._n 12._o arg._n word_n he_o have_v no_o blood_n of_o shame_n run_v in_o his_o vein_n that_o will_v deny_v they_o unto_o the_o former_a reason_n these_o further_a may_v be_v add_v 1._o though_o i_o believe_v as_o augustine_n jerem._n augustine_n epist._n 28._o ad_fw-la jerem._n cyprian_n hid._n cyprian_n epist._n ad_fw-la hid._n cirill_n 8._o cirill_n comment_fw-fr in_o leu._n c._n 8._o origine_fw-la rom._n origine_fw-la comm._n on_o rom._n nazianzene_n lava_n nazianzene_n in_o orat._n in_o s._n lava_n ambrose_n 11_o ambrose_n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr abrah_n c._n 11_o and_o many_o other_o of_o the_o father_n affirm_v that_o the_o church_n have_v receive_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n from_o the_o apostle_n notwithstand_v this_o kind_n in_o question_n from_o the_o beginning_n be_v not_o so_o but_o a_o invention_n late_o take_v up_o some_o say_v boniface_n iv_o in_o the_o year_n 606._o bring_v it_o on_o foot_n other_o think_v it_o be_v not_o so_o ancient_a 2._o whereunto_o tend_v it_o but_o to_o induce_v the_o ignorant_a to_o conceive_v with_o the_o papist_n a_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o baptism_n 6.5.14_o baptism_n rhem._n on_o rom._n 6.5.14_o that_o the_o work_v do_v please_v god_n 22.5.1_o god_n id._n act._n 22.5.1_o put_v away_o original_a sin_n 3._o sin_n aqui._n 2._o sen._n do_v 3._o make_v the_o infant_n a_o christian_a and_o a_o member_n 139._o member_n bellar_n de_fw-fr eccl._n mil._n l._n 3._o c._n 3._o p._n 139._o of_o the_o church_n justify_v he_o 9_o he_o rhem._n in_o rom._n 6._o sect._n 1_o pererius_n in_o rom._n 6._o disp_n 2._o annot_v 9_o and_o that_o if_o he_o die_v without_o it_o he_o can_v be_v save_v paradox_n save_v duraeus_n lib._n 8._o the_o paradox_n 3._o this_o custom_n hinder_v many_o parent_n from_o embrace_v the_o way_n and_o order_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o cause_v they_o as_o mr._n davenport_n 6._o davenport_n iust._n compl._n pag._n 6._o true_o say_v to_o live_v and_o die_v libertine_n 4._o by_o this_o mean_v god_n name_n be_v take_v in_o vain_a 106._o vain_a fenner_n princip_n relig._n p._n 96._o and_o 106._o 5._o and_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n great_o abuse_v mal._n 1.7.12_o heb._n 10.29_o 6._o the._n church_n of_o god_n defile_v hag._n 2.14.15_o ezech._n 44.7_o 172._o 44.7_o necs_n disc_fw-la p._n 95._o plain_a declarat_fw-la of_o eccl._n discip_n p._n 172._o 7._o the_o minister_n a_o breaker_n of_o his_o covenant_n mal._n 2.8_o last_o divine_a wrath_n hence_o just_o may_v