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A43120 Hay any worke for Cooper, or, A briefe pistle directed by way of an Hublication to the Reverend Byshops counselling them if they will needes bee barrelled up for feare of smelling in the nostrills of His Majesty and the state that they would use the advise of Reverend Martin for the providing of their Cooper because trhe Reverend T. C., by which mysticall letters is understood either the bouncing parson of east-meane or Tom Coakes his Chaplaine, to be an unskilfull and a beceitfull Tub-trimmer : wherein worthy Martin Qvits himselfe like a man I warrant you in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned pistles and maketh the Coopers hoopes to slye off and the Bishops Tubs to leake out of all cry / penned and compiled by Martin the metropolitan. Marprelate, Martin, pseud.; Penry, John, 1559-1593. 1642 (1642) Wing H1205; ESTC R13144 39,553 59

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expresly in the word What shift will they use to avoid this point Are they the Bishops of men that is hold they their jurisdiction as from men No saith Deane Bridges no saith Iohn of Canterbury and the rest of them for all of them allow this Booke of Iohn Bridges for then wee are the Bishops of the Divell wee cannot avoid it Are ●…hey then the Bishops of God that is have they such a calling as the Apostles Evangelists c. had that is such a calling as ought lawfully to be in a christian Commonwealth unlesse the Magistrate would injury the Church yea maime deforme and make a Monster of the Church whither the Magistrate will or no We have say they For our calling are not only inclusively but also expressely in the word So that by Deane Bridges his confession and the approbation of Iohn Canterbury either our Bishops are Bishops of the Divell or their callings cannot bee defended lawfull without flat and plaine Treason in overthrowing his Majesties supremacy And so Deane Bridges hath written and Iohn Whitgift hath approved and allowed flat Treason to be published Is Martin to be blamed for finding out and discovering Traytors Is hee to be blamed for crying out against the Bishops of the Divel If he be then indeed have J offended in-writing against Bishops If not whether is the better Subject Martin or our Bishops whether I be favoured or no J will not cease in the love I owe to his Majesty to write against Traytors to write against the Divels Bishops Our Bishops are such by their owne confession For they protest themselves to be the Bishops of the Divel If they should hold the pr●…heminency to be from man If they hold it otherwise then from man they are Traytors And untill this Beast Doctor Bridges wrote this Booke they never as yet durst presume to claime their Lordships any otherwise lawfull then from his Majesty yea and D. Bridges about the 60. page saith thosame But they care not what contrariety they have in their writings what Treason they hold as long as they are perswaded that no man shall be tolerated to write against them I have once already shewed Treason to be in this Booke of the Deane of Sarum page 448. I shew the like now to be page 340. Because Deane Bridges durst not answer mee They have turned unto me in his stead a Beast whom by the length of his Eares I gesse to bee his Brother that is an Asse of the same kind But I will bee answered of the Deane himselfe in this and the former point of Treason or else his Cloister shall smoake for it And thus profane T. C. you perceive what a good subject you are in defending the established government Thus also I have answered all your Bookes in the matters of the lawfulnesse of the government by Pastors Doctours Elders and Deacons and the unlawfulnesse of our bastardly Church government by Archbishops and Bishops where also the Reader may see that if ever there was a Church rightly governed that is a Church without maime or deformity the same was governed by Pastours Doctours Elders and Deacons Whau whau but where have I beene all this while Ten to one among some of these Puritans Why Martin Why Martin I say hast tow forgotten thy selfe Where hast ti beene why man cha bin a seeking for a Samons nest and cha vound a whole crue either of Ecclesiasticall Traitors or of the Bishops of the Divell of broken and maimed members of the Church never wink on me good fellow for I will speake the truth let the Puritans doe what they can I say then that they are broken members and I say Iohn of Canterbury if he be a member of the Church I say he is a broken member and that Thomas of Winchester is a Choleri●…ke member Yea and cha vound that profane T. C is afraid lest his Majesty should give Bishops livings away from om. And therefore shutteth his booke with this position viz. That it is not lawfull to bestow such livings upon Lay men as are appointed by Gods law upon Ministers But hereof more warke for Cooper shall learnedly dispute Reverend T. C. Admonition page 1 2 3. Wee use the Ministers most vil●…ly now a dayes God will punish us for it as hee did those which abused his Prophets Reverend Martin Looke to it T. C. then For out of thine own mouth shalt thou b●… judged thou unrighteous servant Our Bishops are they which abuse the Ministers Our Bishops were never good Ministers as yet and therefore they are not to be compared with the Prophets Reverend T. C. page 4. Some men will say that I doe great injury to the Prophets and Apostles in comparing our Bishops unto them But we may be happy if we may have tolerable Ministers in this pe●…ilous age Reverend Martin I hope T. C. that thou dost not mean to serve the Church with worse then we have what worse then Iohn of Canterbury worse then Tom Tubtrimmer of Winchester worse then the Vick●…rs of Hell Sir Ieff●…ry Iones the parson of Micklain c. I pray thee rather then we should have a change from evill to worse let us have the evill still But I care not if I abide the venture of the change Therefore get Iohn with his Canterburinesse removed c. whom thou acknowledgest to be evill and J doe not doubt if worse come in their stead but the Divell will soone fetch them away and so wee shall bee quickly rid both of evill and worse But good T. C. is it possible to find worse then we have I do not marvell though thou callest me libeller when thou darest abuse the Prophets farre worse then in calling them libellers for I tell thee true thou couldst not have any way so stained their good names as thou hast done in comparing them to our Bishops Call me Libeller as often as thou wilt I doe not greatly care but and thou lovest me never liken me to our Bishops of the Divell For J cannot abide to be compared unto those for by thine owne comparison in the 9. page they are just Balaams up and downe Reverend T. C. page 8 9 10. Though our Bishops be as evill as Iudas the false Apostles and Balaam yet because they have sometimes brought unto ●…s Gods message wee must thinke no othetwise of them then of Gods Messengers For GOD will not suffer divellish and Antichristian persons to bee the chiefe restorers of his Gospell Reverend Martin First T. C. I have truly gathered thine argument though thou namest neither Iudas nor the false Apostles Prove it otherwise Then hast thou reverend Martin proved thy selfe a lyar Now secondly then seeing it is so I pray thee good honest T. C. desire our Judasses who was also one of the first Apostles not to sell their Master for money desire our false Apostles who preached no false doctrine for the most part not to insult over poore Paul and desire our
executed so when I come to my tryall I shall be sure to have no accusers A very pretty way to escape if a man could tell how to bring the matter about Now brethren Bishops your manner of dealing is even the very same The puritans say truly that all Lord Bishops are petty Antichrists and therefore that the Magistrates ought to thrust you out of the common-wealth Now of all loves say the Bishops let not our places bee called in question but rather credit our slanders against the Puritans whereby if men would beleeve vs when wee lye we would beare the world in hand that these our accusers are Malecontents and sottish men holding it unlawfull for the Magistrate to allot any lands for the Ministers portion and unlawfull for the Minister to provide for his family And therefore you must not give eare to the accusations of any such men against us And so wee shall be sure to be acquitted But brethren doe you thinke to be thus cleared Why the Puritans hold no such points as you lay to their charge Though they did as th●…y do not yet that were no sufficient reasō why you being petty Popes should be maintained in a Christian common-wealth A●…swer the reasons that I brought against you otherwise Come off you Bishops leave your thousands and content your selves with your hundreds saith Iohn of London So that you doe plainely see that your Cooper T. C. is but a deceitfull workeman and if you commit the hooping of your Bishopricks vnto him they will so le●…ke in a short space as they shall be able to keep never a Lord Bishop in them And this may serve for an answere vnto the latter part of your booke by way of an Interim vntill more worke for Cooper bee published Hay any worke for Cooper ANd now reverend T. G. I am come to your Epistle to the reader but first you and I must goe out alone into the plaine fields and the●…e wee will try it out even by plaine Syllogismes and that I know Bishops cannot abide to heare of The reverend T. G. to the Reader Page 1. I draw great danger upon my selfe in defending our Bishops and others the chiefe of the clergie of the church of England Their adversaries are very eger the Saints in heaven have felt of their tongues for when they speake of Paul Peter Mary c. whom others iustly call saints they in derision call them sir Peter sir Paul sir Mary Reverend Martin Alas poore reverend T. G. Be not afraid Heere be none but friends man I hope thou art a good fellow and a true subiect yea but I defend the Bishops of the church of England saith he then indeed I marvell not though thy conscience accuse thee and thou art sure to be as well-favouredly thwacked for thy labour as ever thou wast in thy life Thy conscience J say must needs make thee feare in defending them For they are petty Popes and petty Antichrists as I have proved because they are Pastor of pastors c. thou hast not answered my reasons and therefore swadled thou shalt bee for thy paines and yet if thou wilt yeeld I will spare thee Thou canst not be a good and sound subiect and defend the hierarchy of Lord Bishops to bee lawfull as I will shew anone Concerning Sir Paul I have him not all in my writings And therefore the reader must know that there is a Canterbury tricke once to patch up an accusation with a lye or two Sir Peter was the oversight of the Printer who omitted this Marginall note viz. He was not Saint Peter which had a lawfull superiour authority over the vniversall body of the Church And therefore the Priest wherof Deane Iohu speaketh was sir Peter And good reverend T. C. I pray thee tell me what kin was Saint Mary Oueries to Mary the Virgin In my booke learning the one was some Popish Trull and the other the blessed Virgin But will you have all those who are Saints indeed called Saints Why then why doe you not call saint Abraham saint Sara saint Ieremie If Iohn of Canterbury should marry tell me good T. C. dost thou not thinke that he would not make choice of a godly woman I hope a would and T. C. though you are learned yet you goe beyond your books if you said the contrary being a godly woman then shee were a Saint and so by your rule her name being Mary you would have her called Saint Mary Canterbury But I promise thee did his grace what he could I would call her sir Mary Canterbury as long as he professed himselfe to be a Priest and this I might doe lawfully For he being sir Iohn why should not his wife be sir Mary and why not sir Mary Overies as well as sir Mary Canterbury I hope Iohn of Canterbury whom I know though I know no great good in him to be as honest a man as M. Overies was whom I did not know Neither is there any reason why you T. C. should hold M. Overies and his Mary because they are within the Diocesse of Winchester to bee more honest then M. Canterbury and his wife Nay there is more reasons why M. Canterburie and his wife dwelling at Lambehith should be thought the honester of the two then Overies and his wife because they dwell O the bankes side But good Tom tubtrimmer tell me what you meane by the chiefe of the Clergie in the Church of England Iohn Canterburie I am sure Why good T. C. this speech is either blasphemous or traitorous or by your owne confession an evident proofe that Iohn of Canterburie is Lord over his brethren He that is chiefe of the clergie is chiefe of Gods heritage and that is Iesus Christ onely and so to make the Pope of Canterbury chiefe of Gods heritage in this sense is blasphemous if you meane by clergie as Deane Iohn doth page 443 of his booke both the people and Ministers of the Church of England in this sense his Majestie is chiefe of the clergie in the Church of England and so your speech is trait●…rous Lastly if by clergie you mean the ministers of the Church of England none in this sense can be chiefe of the Clergie but a petty Pope For our Saviour Christ flatly forbiddeth any to be chiefe of the clergie in this sense Luke 22. 26. And none ever claimed this vnto himselfe but a petty Pope Therefore T. C. you are either by your own speech a blasphemer or a traitor or else Iohn of Cant. is a petty Pope Here is good spooneme●…t for a Cooper Take heed of writing against Martin if you love your ease Reverend T. C. page 2. Epistle But I feare them not while I goe about to maintaine the dignity of Priests Reverend Martin Well fare a good heart yet stand to thy tackling and get the high commission to send abroad the Pursivants and I warrant thee thou wile doe something Alas good Priests that their dignity is like to
thing know that every Dunsticall Logician giveth this for an inviolable precept that the conclusion is not to be denied For that must needs be true if the Major and minor be true he in omitting the Major and minor because he was not able to answer thereby granteth the conclusion to be true His answer unto the conclusion is that all Lord B. were not petty Popes Because page 74 Cranmer Ridley Hooper were not petty Popes They were not petty Popes because they were not Reprobates As though you block you every petty Pope and petty Antichrist were a reprobate Why no man can deny Gregory the great to be a petty Pope and a petty Antichrist For he was the next immediate Pope before Boniface the first that knowne Antichrist and yet this Gregory left behind him vndoubted testimonies of a chosen child of God so might they and yet be petty Popes in respect of their Office Profane T. C. his first and second reason for the lawfulnesse of our church government And what though good men gave their consent vnto our Church government or writing vnto Bishops gave them their Lordly titles Are their offices therefore lawfull Then so is the Popes office For Erasmu●… was a good man you cannot deny and yet he both allowed of the Popes office since his calling and writing vnto him gave him his titles So did Luther since his calling also for hee dedicated his booke of Christian liberty vnto Pope Leo the tenth The book his Epistle vnto the Pope are both in English Heere I would wish the Magistrate to marke what good reasons you are able to afford for your Hierarchie Thirdly saith profane T. C page 75. All Churches have not the governmene of Pastors and Doctors but Saxonie and Denmarck have L. Bishops You are a great State man vndoubtedly T. C. that vnderstand the State of other Churches so well But herein the impudency of a proud foole appeareth egregiously As though the testimony of a silly Schoolemaster being also as vnlearned as a man of that trade and profession can bee with any honesty would be beleeved against knowne experience Yea but Saxonie and Denmarc●… have Superintendents what then ergo L. Archb. and Bishops I deny it Though other Churches had L. Archb. and Bb●… this proueth nothing else but that other Churches are maimed and have their imperfectious Your reason is this other good Churches are deformed therefore ours must needes bee so too The Kings sonne is lame therefore the children of no subjects must goe vpright And these be all the good reasons which you can bring for the government of Archb. and Bishops against the government of Christ You reason thus It must not be admitted into this Kingdome because then Civilians shall not be able to live in that estimatron and wealth wherein they now do Carnall and senslesse Beasts who are not ashamed to preferre the outward estate of men before the glory of Christs Kingdome Here againe let the Magistrate and other Readers consider whether it be not time that such brutish men should be looked unto Which reason thus The body of Christ which is the Church must needes bee maimed and deformed in this Commonwealth because otherwise Civilians should not be able to live Why you enemies to the state you Traytors to GOD and his Word you Mar-prince Mar-law Mar-magistrate Mar-Church and Mar-common wealth doe you not know that the World should rather go a begging then that the glory of God by mayming his Church should be defaced Who can abide this indignity The Prince and state must procure God to wrath against them by continuing the deformity of his church and it may not be otherwise because the Civilians else must fall to decay I will tell you what you monstrous and ungodly Bishops though I had no feare of God before mine eyes and had no hope of a better life yet the love that I owe as a Naturall man unto his Majesty and the state would inforce me to write against you his Majesty and this Kingdome whom the Lord blesse with his mighty hand I unfamedly beseech must endanger them selves under the perill of Gods heav●…e wrath rather then the maime of our Church government must be healed for we had rather it should be so say our Bishops then wee should be thrust out for if we should be thrust out the study of the civill Law must needs goe to wracke Well if I have lived sometimes a Citizen in that old and ancient though Heathenish Rome and had heard King Dojotarus Caesar yea or Pompey himselfe give out this speech namely that the City and Empire of Rome must needes be brought subject unto some danger because otherwise Catolin Lentulus Cethegus with other of the Nobility could not tell how to live but must needs goe a begging I would surely in the love I ought to the safety of that state have called him that had vsed such a speech in judicium capitis whosoever he had beene and I would not have doubted to have given him the overthrow And shal I being a christian English Subject abide to heare a wicked crue of ungodly Bishops with their hangones and parasites affirme that our King and our state must needs be subject unto the greatest danger that may be viz. the wrath of God for deforming his Church and that Gods Church must needes bee maimed and deformed among us because otherwise a few Civilians shall not be able to live Shall I heare and see these things professed and published and in the love I owe unto Gods religion and his Majesty say nothing I cannot I will not I may not bee silent at this speech come what will come of it The love of a Christian Church Prince and State shall I trust worke more in me then the love of a Heathen Empire and State should doe Now judge good Reader who is more tolerable in a Common-wealth Martin that would have the enemies of his Majesty removed thence or our Bishops which would have his life and the whole Kingdomes prosperity hazarded rather then a few Civilians should want maintenance But I pray thee tell me T. C why should the government of Christ impoverish Civilians Because saith he page 77. the Canon law by which they live must be altered if that were admitted Yea but Civilians live by the Court of Amralty and other courts as well as by the Arches viz. Also the Probats of Testaments the controversies of Tythes Matrimony and many other causes which you Bishops Mar-state do usurpingly take from the Civill Magistrate would be a meanes of Civilians maintenance But are not you ashamed to professe your whole government to be a government ruled by the Popes Canon Lawes which are banished by statute out of this Kingdome This notably sheweth that pou are Mar-prince and Mar-state For how dare you retaine these Lawes unlesse by vertue of them you meane either to enforce the supremacy of the Prince to goe again to Rome or to come