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A83819 The report made to the honourable House of Commons, Decemb. 15. 1699. By the commissioners appointed to enquire into the forfeited estates of Ireland Ireland. Commissioners appointed to enquire into the Forfeited Estates. 1700 (1700) Wing E2704AC; ESTC R200771 32,947 56

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done 36. To the Right Honourable the Earl of Alb-m-rle 2 Grants now in being containing 108633 Acres in Possession and Reversion in consideration of services done 37. To William B-nt-nck Esq commonly called Lord W -- dst-ck 135820 Acres of Land no particular consideration mentioned in the Grant 38. To the Right Honourable the Earl of Athl-ne 2 Grants containing 26480 Acres in consideration of services done in the reduction of Ireland 39. To the Right Honourable the Earl of G-llw-y one Grant containing 36148 Acres in consideration of many good and faithful services by him performed 40. To the Right Honourable the Earl of R-chf-rt 2 Grants containing 39871 Acres in consideration of Services done 41. To the Marquiss of P-z-r 2 Grants containing 30512 Acres in consideration of services done 42. To the Right Honourable the Lord C-n-ngsby 5966 Acres with several Chiefrys Tythes and many Houses in the City of Dublin with 1000 l. Mortgage in consideration of Services done 43. To the Right Honourable the Lord M-ntj-y 11070 Acres for 21 years in consideration of his Services done in the War of Ireland the losses he suffered in his Estate the Imprisonment of his Father in the Bastile and his being kill'd in the Battle of Steynkirk 44. To the Honourable Thomas Keightly Esq 2 Grants containing 12381 Acres for 99 years as a portion for his Daughter Mrs. Kaetherine Keightly who was a dependant on her late Majesty Q. Mary of ever blessed memory and in consideration of a pension of 400 l. per ann and his lossesin the War 45. To Colonel Gustavus Hamilton 5382 Acres whereof 1900 are no part of the Forfeitures in consideration of his great and early service in the War of Ireland his wading through the Shannon and storming the Town of Athlone at the head of the English Granadeers 46. To Dr. John Lesly 16077 Acres in consideration of his early service in the War of Ireland his great expence in raising and arming considerable numbers of men and fighting at the head of them in several Engagements 47. To Thomas Pendergaest Esq now Sir Thomas Pendergast Baronet 2 Grants containing 7082 Acres upon the most valuable consideration of his discovering a most barbarous and bloody Conspiracy to Assassinate the King 's Most Excellent Majesty to destroy the Liberties of England and in consequence the Protestant Religion throughout Europe 48. To Mr. John Baker 1647 Acres in consideration of the great and memorable services his Father Colonel Henry Baker performed in the defence of the City of Londonderry 49. To Thomas Corry Esq 2 Grants one of a Mortgage of 2000 l. in Fee of several Lands in the County of Wicklow due to Sir Edward Scott from the Earl of T-r-ne the other of 1725 Acres The considerations mentioned in the Letters Patents are his House being burnt and his having furnished the Garison of Enniskilling with provisions and materials to the value of 3000 l. at his own expence But enquiring into the merits of this Gentleman it appears to us that he gave no assistance to the Garison of Enniskilling that in the Town of Enniskilling he publickly declared he hop'd to see all those hang'd that took up Arms for the Prince of Orange and his House was burnt by the said Garison 50. The rest of the Grants with the former appear in the Book N. 6. and are comprehended in the general values 51. It is to be observed that all the Acres mentioned in this Report are meant Plantation Acres which bear a proportion to English as 441 is to 264. 52. It is further to be observed that the Estates above-mentioned do not yield so much to the Grantees as they are here valued at for as most of them have abused his Majesty in the real value of their Estates so their Agents have imposed on them and have either sold or let the greatest part of them at great under value 53. We are further to take notice that most of the Lands in the several Grants aforesaid were granted under the Exchequer Seal in Custodium for small numbers of years or during pleasure either to the present Grantees or other persons by which means very little profit of them hath accrued to his Majesty The greatest part of the Custodiums are now expired but those few yet in being appear in a Book at the lower end of the Grants N. 6. 54. In the next place we humbly acquaint your Honours with the several Incumbrances that affect the Estates forfeited and not restored and here we shall take notice of such only as are found by Inquisition or have been allowed by his Majesty's Court of Exchequer most of which last have been in pursuance of her late Majesty's Letter dated _____ to the Lords Justices of Ireland which required that all Protestants should try the validity of their Incumbrances in the most speedy manner without subjecting them to dilatory or chargeable methods 55. All the Statutes Judgments Mortgages or other Debts which appear to us as aforesaid to affect the Estates not restored amount to 161936 l. 15 s. 6 d. the particulars whereof appear in a Book delivered in with this Report N. 7. The reality of the said incumbrances which of them have been made upon a valuable consideration and what have been since discharged by Receipt of Rents or otherwise we have had neither time nor opportunity duly to examine but we humbly conceive there are many deductions to be made upon the following considerations 56. In all Judgments and Statutes we have set down the Penal Sums not being able to know what Interest is due upon the several particulars 57. It appears probable to us that oftentimes the Judgment and Mortgage is for the same Debt 58. It is probable that many of the said Judgments are only for performance of Covenants and the defeazances remain in the hands of the Covenanters 59. In many cases Protestants and Papists have been equally bound and the whole Debt is demanded on the Lands of the forfeited persons tho there may be other security 60. It does appear that many Deeds and Copies of Judgments were produced to the Juries in several Enquiries and found without any proof of the execution of such Deeds or the considerations therein expressed 61. It is probable that in many cases the Statutes and Judgments have been satisfied and do not appear discharged upon Record 62. Many incumbrances have been bought up by the Grantees their Agents and Under-purchasers and oftentimes at small values and are kept on foot to cover the Estates tho probably they might have over-paid themselves by the Preception of Profits 63. Many persons have been put in possession of the Lands incumbred by virtue of her late Majesty's Letter and have received all or a great part of their Debts 64. It is probable that several of the Incumbrances have been taken in trust for forfeiting persons and many others were entred into covenously 65. In conclusion it appears to us that all the contrivances possible were made
THE REPORT Made to the Honourable House of COMMONS Decemb. 15. 1699. BY THE Commissioners appointed to Enquire into the Forfeited Estates OF IRELAND LONDON Printed in the Year M.DCC. The Report made to the Honourable House of Commons by the Commissioners appoined to enquire into the Forfeited Estates of Ireland Decemb. 15. 1699. May it please your Honours 1. ACcording to the powers given us by a late Act of Parliament made in the 10th and 11th years of his Majesty's Reign intitled An Act for granting his Majesty the sum of one million four hundred eighty four thousand and fifteen pounds one shilling eleven pence three farthings for disbanding the Army providing for the Navy and for other necessary Occasions we have enquired into and taken an account of the Forfeited Estates in Ireland and do humbly lay before your Honours this our following Report as the result of our Proceedings 2. But first we must humbly crave leave to represent to your Honours the many difficulties we have met with which we fear may render our Enquiry less satisfactory than otherwise it might have been 3. It is usual for the General Governours of this Kingdom when they are removed from their Imployments to carry away the Books and Papers relating to their proceedings during their Government which we apprehend may have been some hindrance to our Enquiry 4. Soon after the Battel of the Boyne Commissioners of Forfeitures were appointed under the Great Seal of Ireland who substituted Commissioners in the several Counties then in his Majesty's possession these Sub-Commissioners acted very vigorously and made returns of great quantities of Goods forfeited but several of the Books we were not able to get which was a great disadvantage to our proceedings those Returns having been made whilst the mischiefs were fresh and the resentments high between Protestants and Papists and consequently with less favour than hath since been shewn 5. Many Commissions for taking Inquisitions have been issued both from the Chancery and Exchequer that are not sped others have been imperfectly taken and worse drawn up some have never been returned nor so much as the Records made up by the Escheator 6. Great quantities of Land found in the Inquisitions have not been put in Charge to his Majesty nor appear in the Rent Rolls and many Denominations appear in the Rent Rolls of which no Inquisitions were taken and a great many other parcels of Lands are mentioned in the Grants which are neither mentioned in the Inquisitions nor Rent Rolls and some in the Sub-Commissioners Books that are found no where else and there may be many more of which we can trace no footsteps 7. As we cannot complain to your Honours of any direct disobedience to our Authority so we must take notice that we had from few Offices that dispatch which was necessary to the work we had the honour to be employed in but whether this proceeded from any unwillingness to obey us the multitude of other business or the irregular methods of keeping their Books we do not affirm 8. Particularly the Books of the Commissioners of the Revenue relating to the Forfeitures are so ill and confusedly kept as much delay'd us in our proceedings but this we do not attribute so much to the Commissioners of the Revenue as to the shifting this Enquiry from one Commission to another which has been done five times since the Battel of the Boyne So that no Commissioners if they were disposed to it have been able to take any steady view of the Forfeitures and digest them into Method 9. By this means we have been forc'd to examine such vast bundles of Records and Volumes of other Papers as have taken up much of that time which might have been employ'd in the examination of the values and enquiring into the mismanagement of the Forfeitures which appear to us very great tho by the distance of time the agreement of the parties concerned the death of some the departure of others out of the Kingdom most of the tracks are worn out so that we found it very difficult and in many cases impossible to come at a true information 10. Besides there appeared to us a very great backwardness in the people of this Kingdom to give any information which in our humble opinion does not proceed from any dislike to the business of our Commission or disobedience to the Authority that sent us but from the fear of the Grantees and persons in power whose displeasure in this Kingdom is not easily born besides reports seem'd to us to have been industriously spread abroad and generally believed that our Enquiry would come to nothing and was only the effect of a sudden Resolution which hinder'd many persons from making considerable discoveries but we humbly conceive if such fears were removed the Forfeitures would appear much greater 11. Added to all these difficulties our business it self was so voluminous and consisted of so many parts that an exact Scrutiny into all the particulars could not have been made in a much longer time than we were confin'd to but such an account as under these disadvantages we were able to acquire we do with all humility lay before your Honours 12. The Persons outlawed in England since the 13th day of February 1688 on account of the late Rebellion here amount in number to 75 and in Ireland to 3921 all which with their Additions and Counties in which they were Outlawed appear in a Book delivered in with this Report N. 1. 13. The Estates that the said persons or any of them were possessed of or interested in either in Law or Equity since the 13th day of February 1688 that came to our knowledg together with the Proprietors names the number of Acres the County and Barony in which they lye the value of them per annum and the total value appear in a Book delivered in with this Report N. 2. 14. But the gross number of all Acres belonging to Forfeiting Persons in each County the yearly and total value esteeming a Life at 6 years purchase and an Inheritance at 13 years which we apprehend to be at this time the value of the Lands of this Kingdom appear to be as follows viz.   Acres profitable value per Ann. value total   a. r. l. s. d. l. s. d. In the County of Dublin 34536   16061 6   208796 18   In the County of Meath 92452 1 31546 4 6 410100 18 6 In the County of Westmeath 58083 1 14633 12 6 190237 2 6 In the County of Kildare 44281 1 16551 18 6 215175   6 In the County of Catherlogh 26303   7913 11 6 95872 2   In the County of Wicklow 18164   2719 3   35348 19   In the County of Wexford 55882 2 7551 10 6 98169 16 6 In the Queen's County 22657   5002 8 9 65031 13 9 In the King's County 30459 3 6870 18   89321 14   In the County of Kilkenny 30152 2 5243 3 6 68161 5 6
In the County of Longford 2067 2 348 9 9 4530 6 9 In the C. of Lowth and 'T of Drogheda 22508   6331 11   82310 3   In the County of Cork 244320   32133 12 6 417737 2 6 In the County of Kerry 90146   3652 11 9 47483 12 9 In the County of Clare 72246   12060 17   156791 1   In the County of Waterford 21343   4190 10   54476 10   In the County of Limerick 14882 3 4728 10 6 61470 10   In the County of Tipperary 31960 3 8888 12   115552 2 6 In the County of Gallway 60825   10225 4   83528 19   In the County of Roscommon 28933   5808 15   69767 2   In the County of Mayo 19294   3186 5 6 37598 3   In the County of Sligoe 5562 2 998 17 6 12985 7 6 In the County of Antrim 10103 3 1944 18 6 25284   6 In the County of Down 9079   1016 6   13212 4 6 In the County of Ardmagh 4962   688     7644     In the County of Cavan 3830 1 478 12 6 6222 2 6 In the County of Monaghan 3832   558 16   7264 8   In the County of Fermanagh 1945   389     5057     All these Lands in the several Counties aforesaid as far as we can reckon by Acres being added together make 1060792 Acres worth per an 211623 l. 6 s. 3 d. value total 2685130 l. 5 s. 9 d. besides the several Denominations in the said several Counties to which no number of Acres can be added by reason of the imperfection of the Surveys which we humbly represent to your Honours as the gross value of all the Lands forfeited in Ireland since the 13th day of February 1688. 15. Next we think it our duty to acquaint your Honours what proportions of these Lands have been restored to the old Proprietors by virtue of the Articles of Limerick and Gallway and by his Majesty's favour 16. Three Letters one from her late Majesty Queen Mary of ever blessed Memory dated the 15th of March 1691 2 to the Right Honourable the Lord Sdn-y Sir Charles Porter Knight and Thomas Lord C-n-ngs-by then Lords Justices and Chief Governours of this Kingdom one other Letter from her said late Majesty dated the 6th day of May 1693 to the said Lord Viscount S-dn-y then Lord Lieutenant and General Governour of this Kingdom and to the Privy Council there for the time being and one other Letter from his Majesty dated the 24th day of May 1694 to the Right Honourable Henry Lord C-pel Sir Cyril Wich Knight and William Duncombe Esq then Lords Justices of this Kingdom and to the Privy Council there for the time being were severally sent unto them empowering them to hear and determine the Claims of all persons pretending to be within the Articles of Limerick and Gallway and in pursuance of the said Letters 491 persons were adjudged within the Articles aforesaid The names of which persons with their Additions and times of their Adjudications appear in a Book delivered in with this Report N. 3 17. Afterwards a Commission dated the 25th day of February in the 8th year of his Majesty's Reign passed under the great Seal of Ireland impowering the Judges of the several Courts here or any five of them to hear and determine the Claims aforesaid And in pursuance of that Commission 792 persons were adjudged within the Articles aforesaid The names of which persons with their Additions and the times of their Adjudications appear in a Book delivered in with this Report N 4. 18. The Estates that the persons have been restored to by virtue of their Adjudications contain 233106 Acres of Land amounting in yearly value to 55763 l. 6 s. 6 d. value total 724923 l. 4 s. 6 d. The particular number of Acres belonging to persons adjudged the County and Barony in which they lye with the yearly value and what the whole Interest is worth appears in the Book N. 2. 19. And here we presume not to judg whether the Letters from his Majesty or the late Queen to the Lords Justices did give them any legal authority to summon the Subjects from all parts of the Kingdom give Oaths adjudg without Jury and levy Money under the name of Fees we finding no Act of Parliament to warrant the same which we humbly submit to your great Wisdom 20. Further we think it necessary to inform your Honours that the Fees in the said Courts were so extravagant that Mr. Palmer who acted as Register in the right of Mr. Poultney and divided the profits with him demanded of Mr. Luke Dillon for the Fees of his Fathers Adjudication eighty six pounds and Mr. Steel Cryer of the Court fifteen pounds more Nor could Mr. Dillon get out the order to reverse his Fathers Outlawry till he had paid fifty two pounds in ready Money to Mr. Palmer and gave him his Bond for fourteen pounds more and had paid Mr. Steel five pounds besides ten pounds which he had paid Mr. Palmer for Orders the Cause being continued in the Court near two years Nor was this a single case for many more have paid great Summs of Money on the like account the charge of entring a Claim only before we acted in our Commission being near five pounds tho by express words in the Articles of Limerick no person ought to pay any Fees but to writing Clerks 21. We may add to this that the proceedings of the Court of Claims are almost universally complained of and we fear with too much reason Some persons having been adjudged without posting their Claims others within a day or two after before the Kings Councel or Witnesses could be ready which was contrary to the Rules of the Court it self that required fourteen days between the posting every Claim and the Adjudication It was also observable that if any person would disclaim his Estate he met with very little difficulty in being adjudged tho afterward there could be no obstacle in the reversing his Outlawry and consequently to be restored to his Estate In general it seems to us that there have been great miscarriages in the said Court and that in many cases the Articles of Limerick and Gallway have been expounded too beneficially in favour of persons Outlawed and often on the oath of one witness who we humbly conceive cannot not be convicted of Perjury either by common or Statute Law By this means we apprehend a great many persons have been restored to their Estates that upon review would be found to belong to his Majesty To come to a more particular knowledg of which we sent to the said Mr. Palmer for the Minutes of the Adjudications but he having taken them in Short-hand only and never since transcribed them we could not get such an account as was sit to lay before your Honours We shall only take notice of one thing that seems to us very extraordinary that more
use of by some of the Grantees or their Agents to make the incumbrances appear great tho we believe if they were duly enquired into they would be found considerable but that a great part of them might have been paid off by the preception of Profits before this time however we humbly conceive that at present they will be much more than discharged by the personal and other Forfeitures not before valued which we now humbly lay before your Honours 66. As we informed your Honours before soon after the Battel of the Boyne Commissioners under the Great Seal of Ireland were appointed who had power to seize and dispose of the forfeited Goods and Chattels to his Majesty's use these appointed Sub-Commissioners in the several Counties then in his Majesty's Possession who made returns of great quantities of Goods and Chattels which they valued at 13552 l. but at so moderate computations that every Horse was valued at twenty shillings every Cow or Ox at fifteen shillings Sheep at half a Crown a piece and other things proportionably So that it appears very probable to us that if the said goods had been disposed of to the best advantage they might have yielded between two and three hundred thousand pounds but before that could be done upon representation of the then Commissioners of the Revenue the Power of disposing by the said Commissioners of Forfeitures was superseded by a Letter from his Majesty within nine days after the granting their Commission and placed in the Commissioners of the Revenue By this means so much time was lost before their Books and Goods seiz'd by the Sub-Commissioners could be transferred to the Officers of the Revenue that the greatest part of them were either embezeled by the Sub-Commissioners of Forfeitures or the Commissioners of the Revenue or else plundred by the Army at their return into Winter Quarters so that it does not appear to us that there was ever accounted for to his Majesty above the value of 44000 l. Besides these there were great quantities of other Goods in the Inquisitions which we do not find ever came to his Majesties use and many more were seized by private Men. Indeed the Plunder at that time was so general that some Men in considerable Employments were not free from it which seems to us a very great reason why this matter has not been more narrowly search't into particularly the Lord C-n-ngsby seized a great many Black Cattle to the number of Three Hundred or thereabouts besides Horses that were left in the Park after the Battle of the Boyne and which we do not find ever were accounted for to his Majesty he also seized all the Plate and Goods in the House of Sir Michael Creagh Lord Mayor of the City of Dublin for the year 1689 which are generally thought to amount to a great value but this last is said to be by Grant from his Majesty there were several Rich Goods and other Household-stuff delivered by the Commissioners of the Revenue to the then Lords Justices the Lord S-dn-y and Lord C-n-ngsby which we do not find were ever returned accounted for to his Majesty or left in the Castle at their departure from the Government 67. Farther there were several other quantities delivered by order of the Commissioners to Sir Charles Porter Major General Kirk and others which have not been returned and a great deal more by the General Officers of the Army which 't is said his Majesty has since discharged 68. If we may believe the general reports of the Country very many persons have made their advantages of these Forfeitures but the time was so distant the Proofs so difficult and withal the hopes of getting any part of them back again so remote that we rather chose to prosecute more material enquiries and therefore can give your Honours no farther information concerning them 69. But since the values of the before mentioned Goods and Chattels are so uncertain we make no estimate of them but will proceed to take notice of some debts due by Judgment and Statute and a few Mortgages due to forfeiting Persons not restored which amount to 120013 l. 13 s. 10 d. as appears in a Book delivered in with this Report N. 8. 70. And here it may be observed that these Debts are liable to all the objections made against the Incumbrances before mentioned only with this difference that as the Incumbrances may be presumed to be in a great measure satisfied by the preception of Profits the Creditors being many of them in Possession by her late Majesties Letter in favour of Protestant Creditors or at least that the full Interest has been paid out of the Rents So in the other the full Penalty is due no Interest appearing to be paid since the Forfeiture and therefore we humbly conceive may be taken as so much in Discount against Incumbrances 71. And here we crave leave further to observe that almost all the said Judgments were found in the Court of Exchequer only and from a mistake of our Orders no return has been made from either of the Courts of Law by which means we believe many more Debts appearing upon Record to be due to Forfeiting Persons not restored may be omitted 72. There are yet to be computed 297 Houses in the City of Dublin 36 Houses in the City of Cork with 226 Houses Situate in the several Cities and Towns of this Kingdom together with 61 Mills 28 Fairs and Markets 72 Rectories and Tythes Chief-rents amounting to 283 l. per annum and six Ferries and Fisheries lying within the several Counties and Baronies of this Kingdom the Forfeitures of Persons not restored which we value in gross at 5000 l. and place here among the personal Forfeitures towards the discharge of Incumbrances and if we add the Debts due to Forfeiting Persons as we humbly conceive we shall fully discharge the Incumbrances aforesaid and if there were room to apprehend any deficience yet the Chattels real of persons comprehended within the Articles of Limerick which by the construction of the said Articles they were not to be restored to would fully as we apprehend make up any defect that might remain after the allowances aforesaid 73. It appeared to us by our observations in the Country that a great part of the Lands call'd unprofitable in the Survey except those in Kerry which we account as nothing are now profitable Acres and many of them as good Lands as any of the Kingdom and tho they are not comprehended within our valuations yet are in themselves considerable 74. We have computed the forfeited Estates according to the present value and the current price of Coin here were they now to be set without any regard to beneficial Leases made before the Forfeitures and because we found it impossible either to come to a reasonable knowledg of the number of them and which are real and fraudulently set up we think it most proper to make a general allowance for the same by way
persons were adjudged within Articles since the Commencement of our Enquiry than had been since the making of the said Articles 22. Next we are to acquaint your Honours what Estates have been restored to the old Proprietors by Reversal of Outlawries or his Majesty's Pardon 23. The Reversals are of two sorts such as have been in pursuance of Adjudications all markt in N. 3 and 4 in distinct Columns for that purpose the Estates restored by Reversals are already computed under the consideration of persons adjudged 24. The other sort are such as have been reversed by his Majesty's or the late Queen's Letters or Orders to the Lords Justices which with all Pardons and the considerations inducing the same past since the Defeat at the Boyne amounting to sixty five appear in a Book delivered in with this Report N. 5. The Estates restored to the several Persons pardoned or that have their Outlawries reversed by his Majesty's favour contain 74733 Acres worth per An. 20066 l. 8 s. 3 d. value total 260863 l. 7 s. 3 d. The particulars thereof what Estate belongs to each person in what County and Barony it lies what is the yearly and total value appear in the Book N. 2. 25. And here we think it proper to take notice to your Honours that as well by the general report of the Country as by several Observations of our own it appears probable to us that many of the persons aforesaid have obtained his Majesty's Favour by gratifications to such persons as have abused his Majesty's Royal Compassion But when we touch'd on this subject we found difficulties too great to be overcome most of these matters being transacted in private and with Persons out of this Kingdom however we shall lay before your Honours some instances where it appears to us that Mony has been given to restore persons forfeiting to their Estates 26. The Right Honourable the Lord B-ll-w released a Statute Staple of 1000 l. principal Mony and seven or eight hundred pounds Interest to the Lord R-by which was due from Sir William W-ntw-rth Father to the present Lord R-by to the Lord D-l-ke Father to the present Lord B-ll-w in consideration that he would use his Interest with his Majesty to procure his Pardon which he did accordingly and his Pardon soon after passed he also released to the Lord R-mny all the profits of his Estate which his Lordship had enjoyed near three years amounting to about as many thousand pounds in consideration his Lordship would not give him any molestation in passing his Pardon 27. John Kerdiff of Kerdiffstown in the County of Dublin Gent. gave to Mrs. Margaret Vniack 200 l. or thereabouts to make use of her Interest with the Lord R-mny to obtain his Majesty's Letter to have his Outlawry reversed which was accordingly done the the particular case of this Man deserved Compassion 28. Sir John Morris paid to Mr. Richard Vniack five hundred pounds whereof three hundred pounds were paid to Mrs. Vniack for her Interest in the Lord R-mny to procure his Pardon which was accordingly done 29. Henry Morris Esq gave one hundred pounds to Mrs. Margaret Vniack to obtain his Majesty's pardon which was accordingly done 30. John Hussey of Leistip Esq upon his being informed by Mr. Bray and Mr. Roscoe Agents to the Lord Athl-ne that he would not get his Outlawry reversed without giving him a general Release of all demands to the Lord Athl-ne he did it whereby a Mortgages of three hundred pounds which he had upon the Lord L-mr-ck's Estate then in grant to the Lord Athl-ne was released who appeared not to us to have known of the said Mortage or to have had any benefit thereby 31. Edmund Roch Gent. gave Mr. Richard Darling Agent to the Lord R-mny five hundred pounds for his Interest in procuring his pardon which by the means of the Lord R-mny was obtained as we believe But the said Roch was outlawed on the Statute of Foreign Treasons tho never out of the Kingdom 32. John Bourke Esq commonly called Lord B-ph-n agreed to pay 750 l. to Mr. Andrew Card for the use of the Lord Alb-m-rle in consideration he would procure his Majesty's Letter to have him restored to his Estate and Blood three hundred pounds of the said Money was to be paid when he was restored to his Estate and the residue some time after In pursuance of the said Agreement a Letter was sent to the Lords Justices to be communicated to the Commissioners of the Court of Claims in favour of the Lord B-ph-n in order to have him adjudged within the Articles of Gallway but nothing being done thereon it was agreed that a Bill should be transmitted into England in order to pass into a Law in Ireland to restore the Lord B-ph-n to his Estate and Blood the consideration suggested in the Bill was to educate his Children in the Protestant Religion and let his Estate to Protestants It was further provided in the said Bill that nine thousand pounds should be raised upon the said Estate for payment of Debts and a certain part of the said Estate appropriated for the maintenance and provision of his Children but in reality 7500 l. of the said Money was to be paid to the Earl of Alb-m-rle and the remainder as we believe to the persons concerned in negotiating the said Agreement This Bill was brought into the House of Commons of Ireland but the Agreement taking wind and the House resenting that their Authority should be made use of to support such a clandestine bargain and finding several allegations in the said Bill false they rejected it Afterwards a new agreement was made viz. that there should be a Grant to the Lord R-ss in trust that the Money to be advanced for procuring the said Grant should be first raised out of the Estate and next that the Profits should be applied to the payment of Debts and after to the use of the Family of Clanrickard In pursuance of the Agreements aforesaid a Letter was procured from his Majesty and three thousand pounds paid to Thomas Brodrick Esq for the benefit of the Lord Alb-m-rle 33. Having now laid before your Honours an account of all the Estates belonging to persons outlawed since the 13th day of February 1688. and also what Estates have been since restored by Articles and what by his Majesty's favour we will proceed to acquaint your Honours what Grants have been made and also what Custodiums are yet in being of any of the said Estates and to whom 34. There have past since the Battle of the Boyne under the Great Seal of Ireland 76 Grants and Custodiums a Book whereof with the dates of the Letters Patents and the Considerations we have delivered in with the Report N. 6. Some of the most considerable Grants we here particularly lay before your Honours the number of Acres and Considerations 35. To the Right Honourable the Lord R-mny 3 Grants now in being containing 49517 Acres in consideration of Services
Book of Grants N. 6. and others affirm they have not yet received any Satisfaction the whole We believe are under the value of two thousand Pounds per annum 85. And here we may take notice that the Forfeitures in general notwithstanding they appear to be so considerable have been rather a charge than profit to his Majesty which might seem very extraordinary if we did not acquaint your Honours that many obscure Men that had little or nothing since the reduction of Ireland are now reputed Masters of considerable Estates and some of them very great ones nor does there appear any visible cause of their acquiring such suddain Riches but by fishing into these Forfeitures indeed the whole management has been so intricate as if it was design'd to make the knowledg of it a Mystery which has proved sufficiently advantagious to these Men tho very much to the detriment of his Majesty who by this means has been deceived in the value of his Grants and in many cases hath given much more than he intended as we conceive 86. There is nothing seems to us to have contributed more to it than the setting the forfeited Lands by Cant in the City of Dublin and not in the several Counties in the Kingdom For by that means very few persons would come to Town at a great Charge and neglect of their Affairs when they were sure to be out-bid by the Agents to Great Men who aimed only to get into possession and had Interest enough afterwards to have all or most of their Rents remitted Upon this consideration Mr. Attourney General and William Conmelly Esquire canted Lands in the County of Kilkenny worth about 200 l. per annum to more than 20000 l. per annum So that private Men who had no Interest found it in vain to contend besides they were over-awed by the Authority often of those that bid against them which weighed much in this Country 87. By these methods when others were driven off the Stage they took the Lands at their own rates oftentimes as we conceive agreeing not to bid against one another particularly Thomas Brodrick Esq and the said Mr. Conmelly who took vast quantities of Lands and in a great measure governed the Cants few Persons daring to bid against them acted in Partnership in all they took in the Year 1695 and ever since and let it afterwards to under-tenants at greater Rents which is more observable in Mr. Brodrick who was a Privy-Counseller and appointed by the Lord C-p-ll to inspect the Cants having been informed they were managed much to his Majesties disadvantage 88. Nor cou'd it be expected they should be better regulated when many of the immediate Officers of the Revenue took parcels of these Lands and some were taken in trust for the very Commissioners themselves and particularly the Lands of Kerdiffs-town were let to Henry Fernley who was a nominal Person in trust for Mr. Culliford at 31 l. 16 s. per annum tho actually canted to 84 l. Several other forfeited Lands have been taken by Mr. Culliford and great quantities of Goods seized by him to his Majesty's use which he afterwards converted to his own 89. Besides the great abuses in the management of their Cants we humbly represent to your Honours one instance of a considerable Estate that was set without any Cant at all by direction of the Lords Justices for at least one thousand pounds per ann less than it was then worth and for a term of sixty one years tho by a Letter from his Majesty dated the _____ day of March 1698 they were commanded to Let it for a term not exceeding twenty one Years and at a time too when one Year and half was unexpired in another Tenant This is a Lease of the Estate of Sir Valentine Browne and Nicholas Browne Esq commonly call'd Lord K-nm-re within the Counties of Kerry and Limerick made to John Blannenhasset and George Rogers Esquires then Members of Parliament of this Kingdom 90. Having already laid before your Honours the most material parts of our Inquiry we now crave leave to make a short abstract of our valuations before we conclude our Report The whole forfeited Estates since the 13th day of February 1688 we value at 2685130 l. 5 s. 9 d.   l. s. d. The Estates restor'd by Articles we value at 724923 4 6 The Estates restored by favour we value at 260863 7 3 The Debts affecting the Estates forfeited and found by Inquisition or allow'd by order of the Exchequer we compute at 161936 15 6 Against which we ballance the Estates due to forfeiting Persons not restored amounting to 120013 l. 13 s. as also all Houses Tythes Mills Fairs Markets Chief-rents and Ferries worth about 50000 l. Against the beneficial Leases we ballance all the Leases call'd unprofitable and also all the Woods yet standing upon the forfeited Estates which we compute may be worth about 60000 l. and the Chattles real of Persons adjudged within Articles never brought to any account But lest Allowances should not be thought sufficient we throw in all denominations of Lands that have no number of Acres annexed to them which we cannot believe will amount to less than seventy or eighty thousand Acres and consequently if valued in proportion with other Lands will come to at least 14000 l. The Estates yet undiscovered seem to us very considerable but we can make no probable valuation of them the Sums received by the Grantees from the Sale of their Estates amount to 68155 l. 3 s. 1 d. We have taken no notice of any Debts due to Persons restored or of any incumbrances affecting their Estates And after the several Allowances before-mentioned there yet remains 1699343 l. 14 s. which we humbly lay before your Honours as the gross of all the Estates forfeited since the 13th of February 1688. and not restored We shall now conclude our Report by laying before your Honours one other Grant of a considerable value which we are apprehensive does not fall within the Letter of our Enquiry but since the benefit of some forfeited Leases or Holdings are therein granted we chose rather to lay the whole Grant before your Honours than be thought defective in any part of our duty or what might be expected from us A Grant under the Great Seal of Ireland dated the 30th of May 1695 passed to Mrs. Elizabeth V-ll-rs now Countess of Ork --- y of all the Private Estate of the late King James except some small part in grant to the Earl of Athl-ne containing 95649 Acres worth 25995 l. 13 s. per annum value total 337943 l. 9 s. the Particulars whereof viz. the number of Acres in each County and Barony the value per annum and value total appear in a Book delivered in with this Report N. 9. There is payable out of this Estate two thousand Pounds per annum to the Lady Susanna B-ll-sis for her Life and also one thousand pounds per annum to Mrs. Godfrey for her
Life and almost all the old Leases determine in May 1701 and then the Estate will answer the values above-mentioned All which with the utmost deference we humbly submit to your Honours Dublin Signed Fra. Annesley John Trenchard Ja. Hamilton Hen. Langford FINIS To Francis Annesly John Trenchard James Hamilton and Henry Langford Esquires Commissioners with us in the Execution of so much of a late Act of Parliaament made in England as relates to the Enquiring into and taking an Account of the forfeited Estates of Ireland The Memorial of Henry Earl of Dr-gh-da Sir Francis Brewster and Sir Richard Leving Knights Gentlemen WE having jointly acted with you in the Execution of the Power to us given by a late Act of Parliament made in England unto this present day and having Signed and Sealed three Books of Outlawries N. 1. three Books of Forfeitures N. 2. and also three Books of Adjudications at the Council Board N. 3. and three Books of Adjudications at the Court of Claims N. 4. and three Books of Pardons and Reversals N. 5. and three Books of Grants N. 6. and three Books of Incumbrances N. 7. and three Books of Debts due to forfeiting Persons not restored N. 8. which we conceive contain the Substance of the Account required from us by the said Act and our Secretary having drawn up the Report by the immediate Directions and Privity of some of you We have been present at the first and second Reading thereof and have delivered our Sentiments concerning the several Paragraphs thereof which in all amount to the number of ninety or thereabouts after having done our utmost Endeavors to satisfy You and our Selves and to come to a perfect Agreement with you for the publick Good on the 28th day of this instant November three Parts or Books of the said Report were prepared read and compared and contain amongst other things the Paragraph concerning the private Estate of the late K. James which we have before affirmed in our Opinions was not any forfeited Estate within the meaning of the said Act and the said Paragraph was much altered from what it was on the 24th day of October last or at any time after till the 23d day of this instant November at which time it appear'd that mention is therein made of forfeited Leases which are Granted together with the said Estate tho neither the continuances of such Leases nor the value of them above the reserved Rent nor other certainty of the said Leases does appear to us We have declared and do declare that whenever the aforesaid Matters shall appear we will join in the Reporting of whatever is a Forfeiture within the meaning of the said Act Whereupon you were told by Henry Earl of Dr-gh-da that we could not give an Account to the last Paragraph containing the said private Estate nor to Paragraphs 8 10 25 32 66 78 79. But that we would agree to all the said Report except the abovementioned Paragraphs Which you Gentlemen opposing the said Earl did enter on one of the Books or parts of the Report addressed to the Honourable the House of Commons a writing to the Effect following We agree to all the above Report except the 8 10 25 32 66 78 79 Paragraphs to which we cannot Assent for reasons which we will be ready to lay before your Honours when we shall be thereunto required which being written we Signed and Sealed the same and pray you to join with us therein or to subscribe your Names above the said writing thereby testifying your Assent to all the Paragraphs in the said Report But you Gentlemen insisting upon your Majority of four to three have not only refused to sign the said Book addressed to the House of Commons but have taken the other Books containing the said Report and addressed to his Majesty and the House of Peers from us and will not suffer us to join with you in such manner as will as we conceive both answer the ends of the said Act and satisfy our Minds in matters which we are to Certify upon our Oaths And when you propounded to us to make a separate Report which we thought no way convenient for the Service you yet were not willing to let us have Copies either of that we had agreed to or dissented from We therefore pray you as well in consideration of the Publick Trust reposed in us all as of preserving a good Correspondence amongst us that you will not be any hindrance to our Writing and Subscribing and Sealing on the other Books and Parts of the Report addressed to his Majesty and the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in such manner as we have done on the Book address'd to the Honourable the House of Commons we leaving you sufficient space above such Writing of ours to Subscribe and Seal the whole Report which if it be not done already we will Consent to make such Alterations as to make that feasible And we do insist and in virtue of the aforesaid Act of Parliament pray and caution you that you do not obliterate cancel or otherwise deface what we have as we believe solemnly Signed Sealed and delivered as aforesaid pursuant to the said Act but that the same without Alteration be laid before the Honourable House of Commons And we do likewise make instance to you that we may be ordered and not hindered from having Copies of the Paragraphs we have agreed to but more especially and speedily those to which we cannot agree to the end we may not be hindred by you from laying before his Majesty and the two Houses of Parliament the reasons why we cannot give our Assent to the said 8 Paragraphs We also put you in mind of the several Instances we have made to you of comparing at our Board the original Depositions taken before us with the Entry thereof in our Book and signing such Book by us after due comparing which we think extreamly necessary to be done because the original Depositions appear too much blotted and interlined and are thereby capable of great Alterations which may tend to the discredit of our Proceedings And lastly we pray you and insist that this our Memorial be kept ready to be produced amongst the Papers and Proceedings of our Commission Given and delivered unto you under our Hands and Seals this 29th day of November 1699. A Copy of a Letter to the Lord Ch-nc-ll-r of England And the like Letter being sent to the Speaker of the House of Commons the House would not hear it read as not Signed by a Quorum of the Commissioners sent Our very good Lord WE having been appointed Commissioners with four others for executing so much of the late Act of Parliament made in England as relates to the forfeited Estates of Ireland and having acted jointly with them therein to the Expiration of the Time limited by that Act and from that time attended the putting in order and perfecting the matters of our Enquiry unto this present day and having
of discount on other particulars and if all the unprofitable Acres be cast in it may near answer the difference of value the now beneficial Leases do make from the present intrinsick value exclusive of them 75. And lest this allowance should be thought insufficient we humbly conceive the Woods of the Kingdom now standing on the Forfeited Estates not restored may be worth Sixty thousand pounds which we believe if thrown in will answer the difference provided some speedy care be taken to prevent farther waste 76. But lest our allowances on the particulars aforesaid should not be esteemed sufficient we throw in all denominations of Lands to which we could annex no number of Acres not receiving any light either by the Surveys Commissioners Books Inquisitions or our enquiries in the Country and because they are quantities of Land that vastly differ from one another both in value and number of Acres we make no certain estimate of them tho it seems very probable to us that they amount to Seventy or Eighty Thousand Acres which we humbly conceive will much more than answer all the deficiencies before mentioned 77. And here we shall take notice of the general waste committed on the Forfeited Woods of this Kingdom particularly on the Woods of Sir Valentine Brown in the County of Kerry where to the value of twenty Thousand Pounds has been cut down and destroyed and the waste on the Woods of the late Earl of Cl-nc-rtys Estate now in Grant to the Lord W -- dst-ck is computed at Twenty Seven Thousand Pounds And indeed so hasty have several of the Grantees or their Agents been in the disposition of the Forfeited Woods that vast numbers of Trees have been cut and sold for not above six pence a piece and the like waste is still continuing in many parts of this Kingdom and particularly at this instant the Right Honourable Sir John Hely Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Common Pleas here and Peter Goodwyn joint Purchasers of the Lands of Feltrim within six miles of Dublin of the Right Honourable the Lord C-n-ngsby are now cutting down the very ornamental rows and Groves about the mansion House great waste has been made and yet is commiting on the Woods of Oshaghnessy in the County of Gallway purchased by Toby Butler Esquire for about 2500 l. which is valued to above 12000 l. and when we appointed some persons to view and value the said Woods the said Toby Butler did prosecute them by Indictment for so doing 78. Besides all the forfeitures before mentioned there are great numbers of persons guilty of the late Rebellion and within no Articles and never prosecuted and many have appeared on the Exigent which to this day are continued under Bail and some of them were this last Summer Assizes tryed and Acquitted and indeed it does appear to us that the Freeholders of this Kingdom through length of time and by contracting new Friendship with the Irish or by interpurchasing with one another but chiefly through a general dislike of the disposition of the Forfeitures are scarce willing to find any persons guilty of the late Rebellion even upon full Evidence 79. By reason of this delay of prosecution many good Estates by the death of Parties have been lost to his Majesty 80. And notwithstanding all this it seems probable by the multitude of discoveries offer'd us that if right methods were taken and proper incouragement given a great Sum of Money might be raised out of the forfeitures that lie concealed 81. There has been so great a neglect in the prosecution of his Majesties Title that no Inquisition went into Connaught till the year 1695 which gave the forfeiting persons time and leisure to set up what incumbrances they pleased and when they were issued the findings were almost as the Counsel of the forfeiting person thought fit And indeed by the great disproportion of Protestants to Papists which is computed at not one to fifty and so very few Protestant Freeholders being within most Counties of that Province so little Justice is to be had there that the Province it self seems scarcely reduced to his Majesties Obedience a late instance might be given at the last Assizes for the County of Gallway where near forty persons were brought on their Tryals for the late Rebellion and the majority of the Jury that had them in Charge were Officers in the late King James's Army and adjudged within Articles and after that 't were needless to say they were all acquitted Tho by accident 't was discovered that one Kirevan one of the persons then on Tryal was in actual Rebellion and an Officer under the Foreman of the Jury who was sworn to that Fact which was a surprizing difficulty to the Jury who not well knowing how to acquit him upon so direct a proof resolved that the Dice should determine and so the Jury among themselves threw the Dice and the Lot falling upon one Mr. Pendergast he did absent himself accordingly and so no Verdict was given on the said Mr. Kirevan who was thereupon bound over to appear the next Assizes at Gallway to take his Tryal 82. The House of Clanrickard have a vast Territory within that Province with few or no Protestant Tenants thereon the greatest part whereof by the Attainder of the Lord B-ph-n who is only Tenant for Life is now vested in his Majesty and we humbly Conceive if proper methods were now taken by setting the said Estate to Protestant Tenants by Leases for Lives renewable for ever 't would greatly increase the Freeholders and thereby secure the Property and advance the Protestant Interest of that Province 83. And in the next place we do Humbly Acquaint your Honours that several of the Grantees have raised great sums of Money by sale of their Lands and Estates in the whole amounting to 68155 l. 3 s. 1 d. as does hereafter more particularly appear viz. The Right Honourable the Earl of Athl-ne has sold so much of his Grant as amounts to the Sum of 17684 l 12 s. And here we think we ought to take notice that the Lord Athl-ne's Grants are confirmed by Act of Parliament of Ireland The Right Honourable the Earl of R-mn-y has sold so much of his Grants as amounts to 30147 l. 11 s. 1 d. of which 5323 l. 14 s. 7 d. remains unpaid in the Purchasers Hands The Right Honourable the Earl of Alb-m-rle has received in England 13000 l. Sterling by sale of part of his Grant The Right Honourable the Lord C-nn-ngsby hath sold to the value of 2200 l. And Thomas Keightly Esquire has sold and receiv'd to the value of 5123 l. 10 s. amounting in the whole to 68155 l. 3 s. 1 d. 84. We are also to acquaint your Honours that there have been several Proclamations and other Publick Assurances given that a fourth part should be granted to such as should discover any concealed Forfeitures to some of the Discoverers Grants have been made and they appear in the