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A68136 A letter vvritten by a true Christian Catholike, to a Romaine pretended Catholike Wherein vppon occasion of controuersie touching the Catholike Church the 12. 13. and 14. Chap. of the Reuelations are breifly and trulie expounded. Which conteine the true estate thereof, from the birth of Christ, to the end of the world. Herbert, William, Sir, 1553?-1593. 1586 (1586) STC 12752.5; ESTC S112797 52,029 90

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godly deuout and cōmendable If the discipline be according to the Law of God according to the direction of godly Magistrates according to the councel and commandements of the Apostles and according to the vse and practise of the purest churches whereof the holy scriptures are true records vnto vs we iustly may accompt it good and sincere Therefore hath God commaunded and all good men commended the studie search reading meditation of the scriptures In the 6. of Deuteronomie wee read Sunto verba ista in corde tuo eaque acutè ingerito filijs tuis ac loquitor de ijs cum sedes domi tuae cum ambulas per viam cum cubas cum surgis alligato ea in signum manui tuae inscribito ea postibus domus tuae portis tuis Let these wordes be in thy harte the same diligently teach vnto thy children and talke of them when thou sittest in thy house and when thou walkest by the way when thou lyest downe and when thou risest vpp binde them for a signe vppon thine hand write them vppon the postes of thine house and vpon thy gate And of the worde of God it is saide in the 4. of Deuteronomie Haec est sapientia vestra ante oculos populorum This is your wisedome before the eyes of the people Abraham saith Habent Mosen Prophetas audiant eos They haue Moses and the Prophets let them heare them Christ saith Scrutamini scripturas search the scriptures S. Paule saith Tota Scriptura diuinitus inspirata vtilis est ad docendum ad arguendum ad corrigendum ad erudiendum in iustitia vt perfectus sit homo Dei ad omne opus bonum instructus The whole scripture inspired of God is profitable to teach to improue to correct and to instruct in righteousnesse that the man of God may be perfecte instructed vnto euery good worke Irenaeus in his thirde booke the first chap. Euangelium in Scripturis Apostoli nobis tradiderunt columnam firmamentum fidei nostrae futurum The Apostles haue deliuered vnto vs the gospell in the scriptures to be the piller and vpholder of our faith Saint Augustin de Ciuitate Dei his 3 booke and first chapter Ciuitatem Dei dicimus cuius Scriptura testis est We call that the citie of God wherof the Scripture is witnesse Saint Ambrose vpon Luke Si qua est Ecclesia quae fidem respuat nec Apostolicae praedicationis fundamenta possideat deserenda est If there bee any church which reiecteth the faithe or possesseth not the foundation of the Apostolike preaching it is to be forsaken Saint Chrysostome vpon the 2. to the Thessalonians the third homely Omnia clara plana sunt in scripturis diuinis quaecunque necessaria sunt manifesta sunt All thinges are cleare and playne in the holie scriptures what thinges soeuer bee necessary are manifest Saint Augustine in his thirde epistle Sacra Scriptura ea quae aperta continet quasi amicus familiaris sine fuco ad cor loquitur indoctorum atque doctorum the holy scripture speaketh those things which it plainelye conteineth like a familiar freind without guile to the hart both of the learned and of the vnlearned And in his booke de vnitate Ecclesiae the 13. chapter Vtrum ipsi Ecclesiam teneant non nisi diuinarum scripturarum canonicis libris ostendant quia nec nos propterea dicimus nobis credere oportere quod in Ecclesia Christi sumus quia ipsam quàm tenemus commendauit Optatus vel Ambrosius vel alij innumerabiles Episcopi aut quia nostrorum Collegarum consilijs ipsa praedicata est aut quia tanta mirabilia fiunt aut quia ille somnium vidit ille spiritu assumptus audiuit Whether they holde the church let them not showe but by the canonicall bookes of the holy scriptures for neither do wee therefore say that we ought to be beleeued because that we are in the church of Christ because Optatus or Ambrosius or other innumerable Bishops haue commended the same which we holde or because it is praised in the counsel of our fellowes or because so great strange things are wrought or because such a one hath sene a dreame or suche a one taken vp in the spirite hath heard Saint Paule writing to the Colossians doth admonish them diligently to reade the scriptures Sermo Christi habitet in vobis copiosè in omni sapientia Let the worde of God dwell in you aboundantly in all wisedome Saint Chrysostome in his 19. homely thereuppon Audite quotquot estis seculares vxori ac liberis praeestis quemadmodum vobis det in mandatis maxime scripturas legere nec leuiter negligenter sed magno studio Heare you as manie as are seculer and haue gouernment ouer wife and children how he giueth you in charge chiefly to reade the scriptures not lightly and carelesly but with great studie Ierome vpon the same place Hic ostenditur verbum Christi non sufficienter sed abundanter etiam Laicos habere debere docere se inuicem vel monere Here it is showed that the laye men also ought to haue the word of Christ not sufficientlye but aboundantly to teach or warne one another Origen vpon Esay the 2. homely Vtinam omnes faceremus illud quod scriptum est Scrutamini Scripturas Would to God we all did that is written searche the scriptures S. Chrysostome vpon Iohn the 13. homely Admoneo maiorem in modum rogo vt libros comparemus I warne and in earnest sort request that we get bookes And in an other place vpon the epistle to the Colossians the 9. homely Audite obsecro seculares omnes comparate vobis biblia animae pharmaca si nihil aliud vultis vel nouum testamentum acquirite Heare I praye you all the seculer prouide vnto your selues the bible the preseruatiue of the soule or the new testament if ye will nothing els And hom 3. de Lazaro Semper hortor hortari non desinam vt non hic tantum attendat is ijs quae dicuntur verum etiam cum domi fueris assiduè divinarum scripturarum lectioni vacetis quod quidem qui priuatim mecum ingressi sunt non destiti inculcare I stil exhorte and will not cease to exhorte that not onelye you attend heere vnto those thinges whiche are spoken but also when you shall bee at home that you would continually apply the reading of holy scriptures which thing I haue not lefte to exhorte those which haue professed themselues with me And againe Ne negligamus nobis parare libros Let vs not despise to get vs bookes And further Sume librum in manus lege historiam omnem quae not a sunt memoria te nens quae obscura sunt parumque manifesta frequenter percurre Take the book in thy hand reade al the historie and keeping in memory those thinges whiche are euident peruse often those that are obscure and lesse euident Of the
Senate seemeth to bee adorned that is they shall bee made counsellers and consulles and shall farther be decored with all other dignities imperiall and that as the imperiall warfare is decked so also the cleargie of the holy Romaine church shall be adorned and that as the imperiall poysance is garnished with diuers offices of chamberlaines of porters of watchmen and garders so the holye Romaine church shall likewise bee beautified and that the pontificall brightnesse maye shinne most amplye and largelye hee doth ordaine that the houses of the cleargye of the holye Romayne church shall bee garnished with skarfes and with lawnes that is of bright white and that they shall so ryde And that as the Senate doth vse showes with drawynges out that is to say decked with fyne whyte lynnen so the cleargy in lyke sort may vse And farther decreeth that Syluester and his successors shall vse the diademe that is to saye the Crowne of moste pure golde and precious stones which from his head he had graunted vnto him And for that the sayde moste blessed Pope was vnwyllyng vppon the Crowne of his Priesthoode which he weare to the glorye of Sainct Peter to vse that crowne of golde hee had put a miter shynynge with whyte bryghtnesse with his owne handes vppon his head ordayning that euerye one of the Popes successours in particular shall vse the same miter In their proceedinges to the imitation of the Empire which is all one as if hee had sayde as an Image of the Empire this I finde in effecte worde for worde in the Popes decrees collected certayne hundred yeares synce by Gratian and now lately with prefaces and priuileges recommended to the world by Pope Gregorie the thirtenth and printed in Paris the yeare of our Lord 1582. although this donation bee a very falsehood and forgerie in the opinions iudgements of sundry wise and learned men as Cardinall Cusanus Hieronimus Paulus Otho Frisingensis Krantzius Platina Laurentius Valla Carolus Molinaeus Andreas Alceatus and others Yet is it apparant to the eye that sith from the stampe of the Romayne cleargye this counterfecte did proceede they had hereby a good desire to make their Romayne Church an Image and representation of the olde Romayne Empire which is the beast that had the wounde of a sworde and did liue neither did they onelye endeuour to resemble it in dignitie authoritye and ceremonies of honor and maiestie but also in forme and manner of religion which is not vnknowne in the olde Romaine Empire to haue consisted in the multiplicitye of goddes they hauing a god for euerye countrie for euerye prouince for euery Citye for euery place and for euery thing and for these they had alters and Idols and sacrifices and oblations and ceremonies in theyr honour This the Romayne church represented in the multiplicitye of sainctes they hauing a sainct for euery countrie for euerye prouince for euery parishe for euerye place and for euerye thing and for these they had churches and Images and offeringes and prayers and kneelinges and what soeuer establisheth a diuine adoration Hence it was that they turned the temple of Pantheon to the church of all Sainctes Diana to our Ladie Mars into sainct George Aesculapius to S. Roche Romulus and Remus to Peter Paule and euery other god of the Romayne Empire to some other Sainct of the Romayne church Lastlye touching the lawes and manner of gouernment there is a verye great representation betweene the one the other the forme of the pollicy of the romaine empire seemed at the first sight to be an Arastocracie by reason of the autoritie of the Senate but in trueth was a most absolute monarchie by reason of the supreme power of the Emperours The forme of the policy of the Romaine church seemeth likewise to be an aristocracie by reason of the authoritie both of the Cardinals and councels but in verie deed it is a most absolute monarchie by reason of the most high and circumspect power of the Popes The lawes Imperiall by the which the Romaine Empire endeuoured to appease the controuersie that happened amongst men may appeare by the pandectes collected by Tri-bonian by the code of Iustinian and by the bookes called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The lawes Papall by the which the Romaine church proceeded likewise to ende variaunces may be seene in the decretall Epistles writen to the verie likenesse and similitude of the Emperiall rescriptes being an Imitation repetition rehearsall and representation of the selfe same lawes that bare swaye in the Romaine Empire and so confessed by the Canonistes themselues If any will wade farther in the consideration hereof let them reade the collections of Iohannes Berthaclinus firmanus called his repertorie which treateth in seuerall great volumes of an infinite number of things wherein the lawes Ciuill and Canon doe accorde And although in his second to me there be inserted the collection of one Gwalnanus vnder the worde differentia touching the differences in diuers pointes betweene the Ciuill law and the Canon Yet are they so fewe in number in respect of the rest that they are nothing in comparison and such also as differ rather in matter of circumstance then of substaunce and some of them such sort of differences as may very well be betweene a body and his Image As for example the last difference sauing one by him is noted thus Secundum ius Ciuile in libello accusatorio ponuntur nomina Imperatoris consulum secundum ius Canonicum loco illorum ponuntur nomina Papae Episcopi 2.9.4 lib. ibi no. gl 1. per Archi. According to the Ciuill lawe in a libell of accusation the names are put of the Emperor and of the Consuls according to the Canon law in stead of thē the names are put of the Pope of the byshop 15 And it was permitted him to giue a spirite vnto the Image of the beast so that the Image of the beast should speake and should cause that as many as would not worship the Image of the beast should be killed Euery bodie Politique and euerie state that is established to continue amongest men liue by their lawes and constitutions Insomuch that lawes are rightly tearmed the life of the common wealth And in al well ordered common wealthes these lawes are made and ordained by the assent of the most parte of the inhabitants and members of the same For as in the naturall bodie of lyuing creatures out of an harmonie and consent of euerie part and member there resulteth a certaine vitall spirite and vigor that giueth life and motion to the whole bodie and so long continueth the same in good health and estate as it enioyeth free and vninterrupted passage into euerie part and member thereof So in the bodie politicke of common wealthes and estates out of a consent and agreement of the partes and members therof there are produced lawes and ordinances which giue life and strength vnto the common wealth and so long continue