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A63786 Truth's triumph over errour: or, The routing of the seven false prophets who have all lived in London in lesse then these 20. years: (viz.) Farnam, Bull, weavers, Robbins, Garment husbandmen. Smith, a shooe-maker. Muggleton and Reeve, taylors. Wherein is clearly discovered and confuted all their most blasphemous, damnable, false and rediculous tenents. Themselves and falshoods opened, anatomized, and dissected, and found to be no better then impostures, liers, deluders, and spirituall gypsies. Proved by time the mother of truth, reason, scripture, and their own contradictions. Written by Stephen Proud-love, a lover of the truth. 1653 (1653) Wing T3172A; ESTC R219214 8,882 17

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frighted and terrified the hearts and spirits of some other simple hearted people just as the Church of Rome doth by their excommunications The Author of this short Treatise hearing of these men who assumed unto themselves such power did desire to be acquainted with them and at the first meeting did aske them these three questions viz. 1. Whether God had the person of a man and whether he had an audible voice 2. Whether or no they could erre or were incident to failings as other men were 3. Whether or no they could write scriptures so good as those which are already written by Moyses the other Prophets the Evangelists and the Apostles To all which they thus or to the like effect answered To the first that God had an audible voice and that he was in the person of a man from al eternity and that there was not is not nor never shall be any other God but the same Lord Jesus Christ which was born of the Virgin Mary and suffered at Jerusalem and that the world and all things else was only and alonely made by him and that when this Lord Jesus Christ was incarnate and in his minority and at his sufferings and in the grave then there was no God in heaven nor in earth the government of all things for that time being committed to Moyses and Elias and whatsoever God should be professed by any they had power both to curse and to damne them and their professours To the second they plainly declared that they could not erre nor faile and were both alike minded for they had an infallible spirit by the which they were able to discern all things neither could any man deceive them neither could any sickness or any disease seize upon their bodies neither should they ever commit any sinne neither at their death should they have the like fear and trouble in the least as the Lord Jesus Christ had when he suffered To the third they answered that Moyses the other Prophets and Apostles had never the like light given them nor the like power in spirituall things as they had they being under the third and last dispensation as they terme it the dispensation of the spirit therefore able to write Scriptures more then they al and that there hath not been any man these fourteen hundred years past that ever hath spoken truth from or truely opened any text of scripture till they received their Comission To all which I thus reply I do believe and declare unto the whole world that that eternall everliving and all sufficient only wise God who had his being of himselfe and in himselfe sending forth all things as of so from himselfe and againe retracting or drawing all things into himselfe againe is not to be comprehended known or declared to be what he is in his Eternall or Essentiall being for how can the Mortall declare or make manifest the Immortall the Creature the Creator for the pot at furthest onely manifests that it is made but doth not know his Maker neither can it so much as know his voyce Then how can mortall man know the voyce of the Immortall God which makes the Rocks to rend in pieces Ye how terrible was the voyce of God to the Israelites at Mount Sinai that they never desired to hear it any more wherefore they desired that Moses might speak with them and not God any more And secondly whereas they do declare that they cannot sin at all nor erre at any time nor fail in their judgements I my self with many others can witnesse severall passages to the contrary and let all reasonable men judge if rash anger rash judgement censuring and back-biting be not sinne Again I with many others is able to testifie against them to their faces how they have failed and erred in judgement for whereas they both affirmed that they were both endued lighted and guided by one and the self-same infallible spirit that no man was able to deceive them or go about it but they should be able to descern their hypocrisie or deceit They having in my hearing and in the hearing of some others pronounced the sentence of Damnation upon a man I asked whether or no this sentence could not be revok'd upon the parties humiliation and acknowledgement of his Errour the one of them to wit Muggleton answered it might then I asked the other to wit Reeve the same question and he answered and said It could not by meanes whereof they did contend one against another which shews they were of a different judgement Again the said pretended Prophet Reeve having in my sight with a many others pronounced the sentence of blessedness and salvation to a Gunsmith in the Minories his fellow Prophet did within a quarter of an hour pronounce the sentence of damnation upon the same party and also the blasting of his Estate Again not long since being in company with the foresaid two pretended Prophets and some other company there came in a Gentleman whom they had damned three months before or thereabouts but the said Gentleman not taking notice that ever he had seen them before carrying himself very fairly and seemingly did approve of their judgements by which meanes he did obtain their good liking insomuch that they both declared they had nothing against him but that he might have the Blessing whereupon the Gentleman called them a couple of Loger-heads saying Are you the Prophets of the Lord doth not know that ye have already sentenced me to damnation by all which good people ye may see their gross failings and that they may be subject to sin errour and mistakes notwithstanding their great boasting that if any should come into their company whom before they had cursed they should discern and know him although he should never so much disguise himself And thirdly these two pretended Prophets do not only assume unto themselves a Prerogative and power above and beyond Moses the other Prophets and Apostles in the knowledge of the mind and wil of God in the Scriptures but also that they can both adde to these Scriptures and diminish from them saying Whatsoever they shall not approve of to be Scripture is no Scripture at all and so hath cut off all Salomons Writings and the Book of Job to be any part of the Scripture by means whereof there is a great stumbling block laid before the weak who in the sincerity of their hearts are seeking the Lord and hath ever had these Books in esteem as all other Scripture nay and some have said that they may as well question all the other Scriptures as these Now I would question whether or no these men that thus adde to and diminish at their pleasure from the word of God be not such as comes under that sentence mentioned in the 22. of the Revel Cursed is every one that addes or diminishes from the words which are written in this Book and so the plagues which are written therein to be justly due unto them