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A46775 A net for the fishers of men and the same which Christ gave to His Apostles Wherein the points controverted betwixt Catholiques and sectaries, are briefly vindicated, by way of dilemma. By two gentlemen late converts. J. C., late convert.; J. M'C, late convert. aut 1686 (1686) Wing J5B; ESTC R221649 17,198 131

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Jesus Christ that your Faith is spoken of throughout the whole World and again ver 7. To all that be in Rome beloved of God called to be Saints grace to you and Peace c if they had they retain the same Faith still infalliably or not if they do then we agree if not then they must have their fall either by Apostacy Heresy or Schism to the contrary 37. The Ancient Apostolick Catholique Roman Church fell by Apostacy or not if not then she is free from Apostacy if she did what prudent Man will say that she ever renounced the sweet Name of Jesu which she ever hath in so great Veneration 38. The Antient Catholique Roman Church fell by Heresy or not if not then she is free from all Heresy if she did by what general Council was she ever condemned which of the Fathers ever wrote against her or by what Authority was she otherwise reproved 39. The Antient Catholique Roman Church fell by Schism and by deviding her self from some other Church or not if not then she is not guilty of Schism if she did whose company did she leave from what body did she go forth where was the true Church she forsook 40. The true holy Apostolique Catholique Church is Falible and can er or not if not why do you falsly condemn her if she be how can that of Scripture be true 1. Tim. 3.15 the House of God which is the Church of the living God is the pillar and firmament of truth 41. The Church of God is Infalible in all her proposals and definitions of Faith or not if not why should a Man be esteemed a heathen and a publican for not hering afals and eronious Church Mat. 11.18 if she be why do you deny Infalibiltiy 42. Christ being the head of the Church and the holy Gost the soul of the Church guiding and directing the Church in all truth she can er or not if not then she is not falible if she can then Jesus Christ and the holy Ghost is her directors into errors Jo. 16.13 43. Christ is a true Prophet or not if not then you are Blasfemers if he be how then can the Gates of Hell prevail against the Church seeing that he prophecy'd in St. Mat. 16.18 the gates of Hell shall not prevaile against her 44. The holy Ghost suggesteth all truth to the Church or not if not why do you deny that of St. Jo. 14.16 he shall teach you all things and suggest unto you all things whatsoever I shall say unto you if he doth then he 'll suggest no errors c. 45. Christ is a wise Man or a fooll if a wise why did he build his house upon the sand and make it subject to the Infernal Tempests if a fool then you are Blasfemers 46. A Congregation of people in dispiseing Christ is guilty of Apostacy or not if not then you deny the true definition of Apostacy if they be how can you clear your selves of Apostacy in dispiseing his Church seeing it is said in Scripture Luke 10.16 he that heareth you heareth me and he that dispiseth you dispiseth me and he that dispiseth me dispiseth him that sent me 47. Your Church is guilty of Heresy or not if she be c. if not how doth the definition of Heresy agree with you in adhereing to so many private and singular Opinions and errors of Faith contrary to the general approved Doctrine of the Catholique Church 48. Your Church is guilty of Schism or not if she be c. if not how then doth the definition of Schism agree with you in dividing your selves from the body of Faithful Christians and in breaking comunion with the Antient Apostolique Catholique Roman Church 49. That Church to which the above mentioned marks doth agree to wit Apostacy Heresy and Schism is a false Church or not if not then you do not esteem Apostacy Heresy and Schism to be marks of a false Church if they be then your Church is false erronious and no Church seeing they so aptly agree with you 50. All that which the Antient Holy Catholique Roman Church holds as articles of Faith is Pious Good and Lawful which we prove thus out of Holy Writ and by common Sence and reason The Pope 's SUPREMACY Vindicated by the most solid Texts of Scripture 51. The Foundation of the Church of God next after Christ was builded on St. Peter or not if not why doth the Scriptures say St. Mat. 16.18 Thou art Peter and upon this Rock will I build my Church if it was why do you deny Peter's Supremacy 52. Christ bid prefer Peter before the other Apostles or not if not why did he say to Peter only Joh. 21.16 17 18. Feed my Lambs feed my Lambs feed my Sheep if he did why do you deny Peter's Supremacy 53. The Apostles were of like Authority or not if not why do you deny Peter's Supremacy if they were why have you Primates Arch-Bishops Bishops and no equal Authority as they had 54. To whom the cheif charge of feeding Christ 's Sheep was given was cheif of the Apostles or not if not why was the cheif charge given to him if he was why do you deny Peter's Supremacy to whom the cheif charge was committed Oral and Apostolical TRADITION Vindicated by the most solid Texts of Scripture 55. ORal and Apostolical Traditions without writen Books was the means of planting and conserving the Christian Religion or not if not how did the Apostles propagate the Faith of Christ without written Books if it was why do you deny Oral and Apostolical Tradition 56. The number of the Canonical Books is mentioned in Scripture or not if not how do you know the Canonical Books but by Oral Tradition if they be in what Book Chapter or Verse doth it appear 57. The Christians of the Primitive Age on pain of Damnation held nothing for Faith but what they received from Christ and his Apostles for such or not if not why do you condemn that of Scripture Gal. 1.8 Although we or an Angel from heauen preach to you besides that which we have preached to you be he Anathema And again 2. Thes 15. Therefore Brethren stand ye fast and hold ye the traditions which ye have learned whether by word or byour Epistle if they did why do you deny Tradition 58. Apostolical Tradition is the Rule by which we may infalliably be assured both what Doctrine Christ and his Apostles taught and what Books they wrote or not if not how otherwise can we be assured if it be Why do you deny Apostolical Tradition The Blessed EUCHARIST Vindicated to be the most Precious Body and Blood of our Saviour by the most sollid Texts of Scripture 59. THat natural Body and Blood which Christ offered for the remission of Sins on the Cross was the same that Christ gave to his Apostles at his last Supper or not if not why do you deny that Scripture of St. Luke 22.19 This is my Body which
agree if not why hath it the Visibe Signe to wit the Penitents Confession and the Priests Absolution of an Invisible Grace which is the Remission of Sins according to St. John 20.23 Whose Sins ye shall ●●tain they are retained a●● whose Sins you shall forgi●● they are fotven 115. Extream Vunc●●on is a Sacrament or no● if it be then there a●● more then two Sacraments if not why then hath it the Visible Signe to witt the Priests Prayer and the anointing with Oyl of an invisible Grace whereof St. J●● speaks in the 5.13 14 15. Is any Man sick among you● let him bring in the Priests of the Church and let them pray over him anointin● him with Oyl in the Name of ●●●cur Lord and the Pray●●● of Faith shall shall save 〈◊〉 Sick Man and our Lord ●●●ll lift him up and if he 〈◊〉 in Sins his Sins shall be ●●●given him 117. Holy Order is a●●crament or not if it be then it is no vacuant ●●rimony if not why ●●en hath it the Visible ●igne to witt the words of the Bishop and ●he things given to him ●●at it ordain'd of an ●●visible Grace according 1 Tim. 4.14 Neglect ●or the Grace which is in 〈◊〉 very Prophecy with the imposition of the hands of the Priesthood 117. Matrimony is a-Sacrament or not if it be then it is not a naked Ceremony of the Popsh Church if not why then hath it a Visible Signe to witt the mutual consent of both Parties of an Invisible Grace and Supernatural Conjunction made by Almighty God St. Mat. 19.6 That therefore which God hath joined let not man seperate And again Ephes 5 31.3● There shall be two in one Flesh this is agreat Sacrament but I say in Christ and the Church 118. A Visible Signe of an Invisible Grace divinely instituted by Christ is the true Definition of a Sacrament or not if not then you deny the definition which your selves attributes to a Sacrament if it be how can you deny the above mentioned seven Visible Signes of Invisible Graces divinely instituted by Christ to be Sacraments 119. Baptisme and the Lord's Supper is more evidently said in Scripture then any of the other 5 to be Sacraments or not if not why then do you hould those two only and none of the other five to be Sacrament if they be then shews us in what Book Chapter or Verse is Baptisme and the Lord's Supper said to be Sacraments and none of the other five which you so obstinately deny THE APENDIX 120. THat the Sectaries of our Times have no lawful or continued Succession which we prove thus Your Church hath it's Succession from the undernamed Sects or not if not then you cannot have your Succession from any other visible in the World since Gregory the Great about whoss Time you hold the Romish Church fell from her Purity if she hath why do you not profess the sam● Articles with the undernamed Sects viz. with the Waldenses that Lay-Men and Women may Consecrate and Preach that Clergy Men ought to have no Possessions or Porperties and that Oaths was unlawful in all cases c. which absurdities were condemned by the third Lateran Council in the twelveth Century with Abbot Joachim who denyed the Father Son and Holy Ghost to be one highest Thing Essence or Nature though three distinct Person● Can. 3 which Heresy was condemned by the fourth Lateran Council in the thirteenth Century wi●● Bergardes and Beg●●ines who held Car●●a Lust to be done out of Temptation to be ●o Sin c. wich adsurdity was condemned by the Council of Vienna ●n the fourteenth Cen●●ry with John Husse 〈◊〉 Wicklif Hierome o● Prague that all Priests and Majistrates ●●ll from their Dignity by any Mortal Sin and ought no longer 〈◊〉 be obeyed that God must obey the Devil and that temporal Lords might t●ke away Church Liveings at their pleasure c. which obsurdities were totally condemned by the the Council of Constance in the fifteenth Century your Church had her Succession from the above mentioned Sects or not if you have then you must maintain the same most rediculous Tenets with the above mentioned Sectaries if not then you must have no Succession unless it be from the Antient Roman Catholique Church to the contrary 121. Luther and Calvin had their Mission from the Roman Church or not if not then they had no Mission if they had the Roman Church had the Spirit of God when she gave them the● mission or not if no● how could she give them lawful Mission not haveing the Spir●●● of God if she had how could she fall into Errors and why did they depart from the Spirit of God W●● insist further they ha●● their Mission from God or not if no● then it was from the Devil if they ha● why did they not confirm their Doctrine with Miracles ●s God did the unwriten Law Moses the writen Law and Christ Jesus the new Law 122. Luther and Calvin's Doctrine was manifested to be true by Miracles or not if it was by what Miracles did they ever confirm that which they preached if not then seeing you cannot alledg any Texts of sacred Writ to vindicate their Tenets you must of necessity run to your private Spirit for arefuge to the Contrary 123. The Apostles had the private Spirit or not if not then it is not Apostolical but rather Diabolical if they had why then did they call a Council Acts the 15. 124. Your privat Spirit is of God or not if not then it is of the Devil if it be of God why then are there so many disagreeing Sects amongst you 125. A Man endowed with your private Spirt can interpret Scriptures or not if not why then doth rude and unlitarated Mechanicks the meanest of Peasants and in fine all the Plebeian Sort presume to interpret the most difficult parts of Holy Scripture and distinguish the Canonical Books from Apocr if they can what need have you of Preachers or Teachers seeing no Man will believe any thing but what his private Spirit suggests unto him forged by those w●●● never could learn 〈◊〉 speak or write Truth 〈◊〉 if he doth we Faithfu●ly promise by the Gra●● of God to paint and also rip up all the Sores of Protestancy not by Imaginary Fancies or rather wilful Falcities as they obtrude against u● but even from Protes●ant approved History graphers and the present times which all the Impartial and clear sighted Eyes are witnesses of Wee of the Society of Jesus in obedience to the command of our superiors have perused this Book and finding nothing in it contradicting the Catholique Church are in hopes that it may be the Instrument of great good FINIS