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A36527 An answer according to truth that trembles not, nor quakes, nor quayleth : given to thirty six queries, propounded by James Parnell (commonly called the Young Quaker) to an ancient countrey-minister : with some counter-quæries returned by the same minister unto the said young Quack and his fellowes. Drayton, Thomas, d. 1658?; W. P. 1655 (1655) Wing D2147; ESTC R31978 31,256 40

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visible and audible The second also is audible as all men do or may know in their own hearts where his voice is often heard but too little regarded 29 Quaery What is the end of Christs coming and what is the Redemption Answ. Each of them is manifold though it seems James Parnel knowes it not who yet pretends to be one of those teachers who is as infallible as those Prophets and Apostles were who gave forth the holy Scriptures As for the first of these the ends of Christs coming they are these among others One is to destroy or abolish the work of the Devil 1 Joh. 3. 8. or to redeem us from all iniquity Tit. 2. 14. A second is to sive us from our other enemies even out of the hands of all that hate us Luke 1. 71. A third is that the righteousnesse of the Law might be fulfilled in us Rom. 8. 4. A fourth is to redeem us from the curse of the Law Gal. 3. 13. A fifth is to deliver them who through fear of death were all their life-time subject to bondage Heb. 2. 15. A sixth is That he might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God to make reconciliation for the sins of the people For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted he is able to succour them that are tempted Heb. 2. 17 18. A seventh was to set us a perfect example both of active and passive obedience 1 Pet. 2. 21. An eighth was that he might for our comfort give us an example of victory over the wicked world and the Prince of it even for our encouragement to fight the same battel Joh. 16. 33. A ninth was that he might break down the partition-wall betwixt the Jewes and the Gentiles Ephes. 2. 14 15 16. The tenth was to be the first-begotten from the dead Colos. 1. 18. or the first-fruits of them that sleep 1 Cor. 15. 20. The eleventh is that he might be the Judge of the world John 5. 22. Acts 17. 31. Lastly to omit many other that he might be the Head of the Church Ephes. 1. 22 23. and Lord of the dead and the living Rom. 14. 9. 2 Cor. 5. 14 15. Now concerning Christs Redemption it is manifold likewise For first there is a spiritual Redemption from sin by his blood and Spirit Tit. 2. 14. Luke 1. 71. Secondly a positive Redemption in the same kind Ephes. 1. 14. or the recovering of the divine nature again through him 2 Pet. 1. 4. Thirdly there is a redemption from the curse of the Law Gal. 3. 13. or a saving of us from the wrath to come 1 Thess. 1. 10. Fourthly there is the Redemption of our body Rom 8. 23. Fifthly there is the Redemption from the guilt of our sins as well as from the power Ephes. 1. 7. Colos. 1. 14. Lastly there is a Redemption from all evil Gen 48. 16. 30 Quaery Whether thou wilt own this That Christ hath inlightened every one that cometh into the world and whether they that know that light need any man to teach them And whether thou leadest any man up under this Ministery that they need not thee to teach them Answ. First I own that Christ inlighteneth every man by his coming into the world yea that he inlighteneth every man that comes into the world for the Apostle affirms it Joh. 1. 9. Secondly I say that they which have attained to the full knowledge of this light need not that any man should teach them for they are sufficiently taught of God Jer. 31. 34. but I deny that you are so taught or in such a measure and your new friends give no full evidence that they have attained to the fulnesse and clearnesse of this day from heaven as yet though the Day-dawn may be risen in some of their hearts for ought I know But till that full light shine in them or us we may have other helps and teachers as the Apostle shewes 2 Pet. 1. 19 20. And those may not onely be convenient but in some sort necessary for us otherwise the Lord would not have caused so many Books of holy Scriptures to be written nor have sent so many Prophets Apostles and Messengers of his into the world as he hath done Yea John who speaks of the sufficiency of this Unction to teach us 1 John 2. 27. might have spared all his pains in preaching and writing and much more may James Parnel and his fellowes keep silence if there be no necessity for or use of his or their teaching Lastly I say that my hearers can witnesse for me that I have often and earnestly stirred them to regard and obey the light that shines forth and teacheth or speaketh in them and to grow up to that pitch that they may behold the clear and full light of the day from heaven wherein they shall not need mine or any other mans teaching from thenceforth 31 Quaery Whether they be not the deceivers who cry Lo here or lo there who draw people to look for a Christ in a heaven without them and afar off or at Hierusalem afar off whereas they that cannot witnesse Christ within them are Reprobates Answ. I hope you will not deny that Christ according to the flesh was at Hierusalem without us and from us in England nor that he is in an heaven without us and far remote from us since his presence fills heaven and earth Howbeit Christ must also be within us to inlighten purge strengthen and renew us And though they that cannot experimentally so witnesse him to be and work within them are for the present in a reprobate condition yet I dare not say that all such are final reprobates Nor will I say that all who speak of a Christ within them shall be saved For many who prophesie in his Name do great works yet in the end being found workers of iniquity perish Matth. 7. 21 22 23. Howbeit I grant that those teachers which point only to a Christ without them or to any other spiritual Kingdome of God then what must be within them saying Lo here is Christ and lo there is his Kingdom may be both deceivers and deceived themselves for the present And how near you come to such who say Lo here among the people called the Quakers Christ alone is to be found and no where else let the impartial judge 32 Quaery Whether they be not out of the Faith of Christ that receive honour or respect persons Answ. Men may receive honour from others for their vertues graces or good services and yet be in the faith of Christ So Timothy and Titus did often of Paul Phil. 2. 19 20. 2 Cor. 8. 16 17. So are the Corinthians commended by him 1 Cor. 11. 1 2 3. and other Brethren also 2 Cor. 8. 23. Yea which of the Churches is it to whom that Apostle wrote who are not in some things commended by him See Rom. 1. 8. 15. 14. Gal. 4. 14 15. Phil. 4. 10. 1 Thess.