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A50624 Roma mendax, or, The falshood of Romes high pretences to infallibility and antiquity evicted in confutation of an anonymous popish pamphlet undertaking the defence of Mr. Dempster, Jesuit / by John Menzeis [i.e. Menzies] ... Menzeis, John, 1624-1684. 1675 (1675) Wing M1727; ESTC R16820 320,569 394

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over_o with_o it_o again_o if_o our_o protestation_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o clear_v we_o yet_o i_o hope_v bellarmine_n confession_n may_v be_v hear_v now_o he_o declare_v lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr justif_a cap._n 3._o and_o lib._n 3._o the_o justif_a cap._n 6._o that_o we_o acknowledge_v that_o true_a faith_n can_v be_v without_o good_a work_n i_o know_v that_o bell._n notwithstanding_o all_o this_o endeavour_n lib._n 4._o the_o justif_a cap._n 1._o to_o fix_v the_o same_o calumny_n on_o protestant_n as_o if_o they_o deny_v the_o necessity_n of_o good_a work_n by_o misconstrue_v some_o word_n which_o drop_v from_o luther_n calvin_n and_o some_o other_o but_o these_o be_v not_o only_o full_o vindicate_v by_o davenant_n de_fw-fr justitiâ_fw-la habit_n &_o actual_a cap._n 30._o but_o also_o the_o cardinal_n palpable_o bewray_v the_o violence_n he_o use_v to_o his_o own_o conscience_n in_o this_o crimination_n for_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o that_o very_a chapter_n he_o confess_v that_o luther_n calvin_n melancthon_n brentius_n and_o the_o augustan_n confession_n have_v assert_v the_o necessity_n of_o good_a work_n all_o who_o know_v our_o doctrine_n know_v that_o we_o subscribe_v to_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n heb._n 12.14_o without_o holiness_n none_o can_v see_v the_o lord_n as_o to_o that_o which_o be_v charge_v upon_o the_o aerian_o concern_v fast_n not_o to_o insist_v that_o it_o be_v question_v by_o learned_a author_n particular_o by_o danaeus_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o s._n augustine_n book_n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la cap._n 53._o whether_o there_o be_v sufficient_a ground_n to_o charge_v all_o that_o be_v allege_v by_o epiphanius_n and_o out_o of_o he_o by_o austin_n upon_o the_o aerian_o and_o the_o rather_o see_v there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o aerian_o as_o heretic_n either_o in_o theodoree_n four_o book_n haeret._n fab._n or_o in_o the_o church_n history_n of_o socrates_n sozomen_n or_o evagrius_n but_o only_o in_o epiphanius_n which_o may_v have_v be_v occasion_v by_o his_o freedom_n in_o testify_v against_o some_o misdemeanour_n of_o eustathius_n he_o may_v have_v know_v that_o d._n morton_n appeal_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 1._o in_o confutation_n of_o this_o same_o calumny_n in_o breerly_n mouth_n have_v show_v from_o luther_n and_o calvin_n that_o public_a fast_n enjoin_v by_o the_o church_n be_v not_o disallow_v by_o protestant_n the_o like_a may_v be_v show_v from_o the_o confession_n of_o protestant_a church_n particular_o by_o the_o helvetian_a art_n 24._o the_o bohemian_a art_n 18._o argentin_n cap._n 8._o and_o that_o of_o wittenberg_n tit_n de_fw-fr jejunio_fw-la and_o cassander_n consult_v art_n 15._o report_v this_o to_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o protestant_n in_o the_o saxonick_a confession_n yet_o i_o must_v put_v he_o in_o mind_n that_o their_o own_o cardinal_n jesuit_n tolet_n in_o luke_n 5._o annot._fw-la 70._o confess_v that_o the_o present_v set_v fast_n of_o their_o church_n such_o as_o the_o vigil_n four_o embers_o and_o lent-fast_a be_v not_o institute_v by_o jesus_n christ_n the_o three_o heresy_n that_o he_o mention_n be_v the_o deny_v of_o freewill_n which_o he_o say_v be_v condemn_v by_o epiphanius_n haeres_fw-la 64._o in_o that_o chap._n epiphanius_n dispute_v against_o origen_n to_o who_o he_o ascribe_v sundry_a other_o gross_a error_n all_o i_o find_v say_v in_o reference_n to_o freewill_n be_v that_o adam_n by_o his_o fall_n lose_v the_o image_n of_o god_n whereby_o if_o origen_n have_v only_o mean_v that_o he_o lose_v the_o habit_n of_o grace_n and_o holiness_n wherewith_o in_o the_o state_n of_o innocency_n he_o be_v adorn_v he_o have_v be_v guilty_a of_o no_o error_n this_o be_v a_o truth_n clear_a from_o scripture_n and_o acknowledge_v by_o learned_a romanist_n as_o well_o as_o by_o father_n and_o protestant_n as_o be_v evident_a from_o the_o debate_n de_fw-fr statu_fw-la primi_fw-la hominis_fw-la but_o if_o origen_n mean_v by_o the_o image_n of_o god_n the_o 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not_o to_o be_v reverence_v need_v i_o tell_v he_o that_o erasmus_n wish_v that_o hierome_n have_v use_v more_o reason_v and_o less_o rail_a in_o his_o debate_n with_o vigilantius_n learned_a fulk_n against_o the_o rhemist_n art_n 19.12_o doubt_n whether_o hierome_n in_o that_o heat_n of_o dispute_n may_v not_o represent_v vigilantius_n opinion_n more_o gross_o than_o it_o be_v and_o the_o rather_o see_v by_o none_o of_o those_o who_o of_o old_a write_v the_o catalogue_n of_o heretic_n be_v he_o condemn_v for_o this_o thing_n except_o only_o by_o hierom_n but_o if_o vigilantius_n indeed_o assert_v as_o hierom_n say_v that_o the_o body_n of_o saint_n shall_v be_v throw_v ad_fw-la sterquilinium_fw-la to_o a_o dunghill_n and_o tread_v upon_o we_o do_v abominate_a such_o thought_n the_o memory_n of_o saint_n with_o we_o be_v precious_a we_o judge_v a_o decent_a christian_a burial_n to_o be_v a_o honour_n due_a to_o their_o body_n and_o therefore_o fomanists_n be_v high_o injurious_a to_o 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we_o be_v that_o of_o jovinian_a condemn_v by_o austin_n haeres_fw-la 82._o for_o hold_v wedlock_n equal_a in_o dignity_n to_o virginiiy_v see_v this_o pamphleter_n be_v please_v to_o resume_v this_o long-ago_a confute_v calumny_n together_o with_o the_o rest_n out_o of_o breer_o shall_v he_o not_o have_v consider_v how_o d._n morton_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o breer_o lib._n 5._o cap._n 9_o show_v various_a case_n wherein_o there_o be_v a_o mutual_a preference_n and_o equality_n betwixt_o wedlock_n and_o virginity_n what_o impiety_n the_o romish_a profession_n of_o virginity_n without_o chastity_n have_v introduce_v into_o the_o church_n their_o own_o author_n have_v declare_v so_o that_o nicolaus_n clemange_v testify_v their_o nunnery_n be_v no_o better_a than_o stew_n i_o be_o sure_a without_o heresy_n it_o may_v he_o say_v that_o chaste_a matrimony_n be_v better_a than_o impure_a caelibat_fw-la if_o jovinian_a intend_a no_o more_o than_o that_o neither_o wedlock_n nor_o virginity_n 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tongue_n which_o people_n can_v understand_v nor_o for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o adoration_n of_o image_n or_o creature_n nor_o for_o pray_v for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n yea_o nor_o for_o transubstantiation_n etc._n etc._n as_o may_v far_o appear_v cap._n 7._o who_o will_v affirm_v he_o be_v for_o the_o romish_a precise_a septenary_n of_o proper_a sacrament_n neither_o more_o nor_o less_o i_o may_v say_v either_o he_o have_v not_o read_v denys_n with_o advertency_n or_o he_o trespass_n against_o the_o principle_n of_o ingenuity_n if_o the_o pamphleter_n can_v prove_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v take_v by_o denys_n in_o the_o strict_a notion_n wherein_o a_o sacrament_n be_v use_v in_o this_o controversy_n and_o that_o they_o be_v apply_v by_o he_o to_o the_o seven_o sacrament_n plead_v by_o the_o romanist_n and_o to_o nothing_o else_o i_o shall_v acknowledge_v i_o have_v learn_v a_o lesson_n from_o he_o next_o for_o austin_n 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of_o the_o same_o scripture_n at_o which_o here_o he_o cavil_v to_o prove_v baptism_n to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n do_v a_o jesuit_n breath_n add_v significancy_n to_o a_o scripture_n which_o signify_v nothing_o from_o a_o protestant_n or_o be_v his_o choler_n move_v that_o i_o call_v sacrament_n seal_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o salvation_n do_v not_o the_o apostle_n call_v circumcision_n to_o which_o baptism_n have_v succeed_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n which_o be_v by_o faith_n rom._n 4_o 11._o be_v not_o baptism_n by_o theod._n lib._n de_fw-fr divin_n decret_n epitome_n call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o earnest_n of_o future_a good_a thing_n and_o the_o type_n of_o the_o resurrection_n to_o come_v do_v not_o basil_n lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la eunom_fw-la say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o must_v first_o believe_v and_o then_o be_v seal_v by_o baptism_n what_o shall_v i_o cite_v tertul._n de_fw-fr paenit_fw-la or_o austin_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr bapt_n cap._n 24._o may_v he_o not_o have_v learn_v from_o valent_n the_o jesuit_n tom._n 4_o disp_n 3._o q._n 3._o punt._n 1._o that_o sacrament_n be_v in_o a_o manner_n seal_v of_o divine_a promise_n do_v he_o not_o also_o punct_a 3._o compare_n sacrament_n to_o the_o seal_n of_o prince_n annex_v to_o their_o patent_n ought_v he_o not_o at_o least_o to_o have_v be_v better_o acquaint_v with_o the_o roman_a catechism_n set_v forth_o by_o pope_n pius_fw-la quintus_fw-la which_o teach_v part_n 2_o cap._n 1._o q._n 7._o that_o when_o christ_n have_v promise_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n and_o heavenly_a grace_n he_o do_v institute_v sensible_a sign_n quibus_fw-la eum_fw-la quasi_fw-la pignoribus_fw-la obligatum_fw-la haberemus_fw-la atque_fw-la ita_fw-la fidelem_fw-la in_o promissis_fw-la futurum_fw-la nunquam_fw-la dubitaremus_fw-la that_o be_v whereby_o we_o may_v have_v he_o oblige_v as_o it_o be_v by_o pledge_n and_o so_o we_o may_v never_o doubt_v of_o his_o fidelity_n in_o his_o promise_n who_o can_v desire_v a_o more_o full_a explication_n of_o sacramental_a seal_n do_v not_o the_o scripture_n at_o which_o he_o cavil_v sufficient_o hold_v forth_o that_o sacrament_n be_v institute_v for_o the_o obsignation_n of_o promise_n be_v not_o this_o the_o ground_n upon_o which_o peter_n act._n 2.38_o 39_o exhort_v those_o to_o be_v baptize_v for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n because_o the_o promise_n be_v they_o if_o the_o promise_n be_v they_o than_o their_o sin_n be_v already_o pardon_v and_o so_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v administer_v for_o the_o obsignation_n of_o the_o promise_n but_o say_v he_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o salvation_n in_o that_o scripture_n how_o childish_a be_v this_o objection_n be_v not_o salvation_n contain_v in_o the_o promise_n be_v there_o not_o a_o infallible_a connexion_n betwixt_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o salvation_n rom._n 8._o who_o he_o justify_v they_o he_o glorify_v do_v he_o seal_v to_o any_o remission_n of_o sin_n to_o who_o he_o seal_v not_o salvation_n can_v the_o other_o scripture_n 1_o cor._n 11._o this_o cup_n be_v the_o new-testament_n bear_v any_o other_o tolerable_a sense_n but_o that_o the_o cup_n that_o be_v the_o consecrate_a liquor_n in_o the_o cup_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o new-covenant_n can_v any_o romanist_n deny_v that_o this_o proposition_n the_o cup_n be_v the_o new-testament_n be_v figurative_a can_v any_o say_v that_o the_o cup_n be_v transubstantiate_v into_o the_o new-testament_n if_o it_o can_v have_v bear_v another_o congruous_a sense_n ought_v it_o not_o to_o have_v be_v declare_v when_o this_o sophister_n be_v quarrel_v at_o the_o sense_n give_v by_o i_o what_o need_v more_o do_v not_o esthius_n a_o popish_a commentator_n in_o loc_n give_v this_o sense_n that_o which_o be_v contain_v in_o this_o cup_n be_v that_o by_o which_o the_o new-testament_n sancitur_fw-la &_o confirmatur_fw-la be_v ratify_v and_o confirm_v be_v it_o pertinent_a for_o this_o caviller_n when_o oppugn_v our_o doctrine_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n to_o digress_v as_o he_o do_v pag._n 120._o to_o another_o question_n concern_v the_o efficacy_n of_o sacrament_n do_v we_o deny_v their_o efficacy_n god_n forbid_v the_o pamphleter_n trace_v the_o footstep_n of_o bell._n lib._n 2._o the_o effect_n sac._n cap._n 2._o say_v we_o make_v sacrament_n but_o nuda_fw-la signa_fw-la bare_a sign_n but_o this_o be_v a_o egregious_a calumny_n as_o may_v appear_v not_o only_o by_o the_o private_a write_n of_o protestant_n but_o by_o our_o public_a confession_n particular_o the_o scottish_a confession_n art_n 21._o quicunque_fw-la vobis_fw-la detrahunt_fw-la quasi_fw-la affirm●●emus_fw-la vel_fw-la crederemus_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la esse_fw-la quam_fw-la nuda_fw-la &_o vacua_fw-la signa_fw-la injuriam_fw-la nobis_fw-la faciunt_fw-la &_o contra_fw-la manifestam_fw-la veritatem_fw-la loquuntur_fw-la so_o also_o the_o belgic_a confession_n art_n 33._o we_o do_v indeed_o deny_v that_o sacrament_n confer_v grace_n ex_fw-la opere_fw-la
thes_n 2.7_o and_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o whore_n babylon_n revel_v 17.5.7_o must_v also_o be_v sacrament_n but_o do_v not_o the_o apostle_n signify_v what_o it_o be_v he_o mean_v by_o that_o mystery_n ephes_n 5.32_o when_o he_o subjoin_v i_o speak_v of_o christ_n and_o the_o church_n what_o need_v i_o more_o see_v i_o bring_v in_o my_o last_o against_o mr._n dempster_n there_o own_o great_a cardinal_n cajetan_n confess_v that_o from_o this_o place_n it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o matrimony_n be_v a_o sacrament_n but_o if_o he_o have_v not_o be_v smite_v with_o mr._n dempster_n tergiverse_v disease_n he_o have_v never_o whole_o overleap_v what_o i_o object_v against_o this_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o five_o spurious_a sacrament_n if_o he_o have_v any_o candour_n it_o be_v expect_v in_o his_o next_o he_o will_v reply_v not_o only_o to_o these_o hint_n but_o also_o to_o what_o be_v object_v in_o my_o last_o by_o all_o this_o i_o hope_v it_o appear_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n concern_v the_o presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n and_o concern_v the_o number_n of_o sacrament_n remain_v unshaken_a what_o unity_n romanist_n can_v pretend_v to_o in_o this_o question_n of_o the_o number_n of_o sacrament_n i_o leave_v to_o be_v gather_v from_o these_o two_o testimony_n the_o first_o shall_v be_v of_o greg._n de_fw-fr val._n the_o jesuit_n lib._n de_fw-fr num_fw-la sacr._n cap._n 3._o &_o 7._o some_o catholic_n say_v he_o deny_v matrimony_n other_o confirmation_n and_o other_o extreme_a vnstion_n to_o be_v univocal_o a_o sacrament_n the_o other_o of_o cassander_n consult_v art_n 13._o apud_fw-la authores_fw-la say_v he_o paulo_n vetustiores_fw-la inter_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la proprie_fw-la dista_fw-la nunc_fw-la duo_fw-la ponuntur_fw-la nunc_fw-la tria_fw-la baptismus_fw-la ewharistia_n &_o confirmatio_fw-la non_fw-la temere_fw-la quenquam_fw-la reperies_fw-la ante_fw-la lembardum_fw-la qui_fw-la certum_fw-la aliquem_fw-la &_o definitum_fw-la nunierum_fw-la statuerit_fw-la &_o the_o his_o septem_fw-la non_fw-la omnes_fw-la quidem_fw-la scholastici_fw-la aeque_fw-la proprie_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la vocabant_fw-la chap._n vi_o whether_o protestant_a church_n do_v grant_v that_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o always_o preserve_v and_o that_o for_o 1400._o year_n before_o luther_n popery_n be_v the_o only_a prevail_a religion_n it_o may_v seem_v strange_a that_o i_o shall_v be_v put_v to_o debate_n this_o question_n have_v so_o often_o appeal_v mr._n dempster_n to_o try_v the_o truth_n of_o religion_n not_o only_o by_o its_o conformity_n with_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o also_o with_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n but_o so_o evil_a nature_a be_v this_o ghost_n of_o mr._n dempster_n that_o as_o if_o i_o be_v too_o narrow_a a_o mark_n for_o his_o revile_v genius_n he_o spend_v one_o entire_a section_n from_o pag._n 125._o to_o 129._o in_o a_o calumnious_a representation_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n as_o if_o the_o more_o ancient_a protestant_n have_v affirm_v that_o the_o visible_a church_n have_v perish_v from_o the_o day_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o the_o only_a prevail_a religion_n for_o 1400._o year_n before_o luther_n have_v be_v popery_n for_o this_o end_n he_o have_v scrape_v together_o out_o of_o his_o common_a place-book_n a_o multitude_n of_o break_a shred_n from_o protestant_a author_n from_o which_o he_o deduce_v sundry_a absurd_a inference_n of_o which_o the_o author_n never_o once_o dream_v how_o desperate_a must_v the_o romish_a cause_n be_v when_o they_o can_v impugn_v we_o but_o by_o misrepresent_v we_o and_o charge_v upon_o we_o tenet_n which_o they_o know_v we_o condemn_v yea_o though_o we_o disow_v they_o yet_o they_o will_v still_o impose_v they_o upon_o we_o when_o they_o thus_o sport_v with_o their_o own_o shadow_n do_v they_o not_o gallant_o confute_v the_o protestant_a religion_n to_o assoil_v 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have_v total_o fail_v but_o only_o from_o its_o purity_n do_v not_o whitaker_n controu._n 2._o c._n 5._o q._n 7._o express_o affirm_v that_o we_o can_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o father_n our_o doctrine_n to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o church_n in_o all_o these_o ancient_a age_n do_v he_o not_o a_o little_a after_o charge_n bellarmine_n as_o belie_v calvin_n and_o the_o centurist_n as_o if_o when_o they_o charge_v the_o father_n with_o these_o error_n mention_v by_o this_o pamphleter_n viz._n limbo_n freewill_n and_o merit_n of_o good_a work_n as_o if_o i_o say_v they_o have_v charge_v these_o on_o all_o the_o father_n and_o on_o all_o the_o church_n none_o of_o which_o they_o ever_o mean_v say_v whitaker_n sure_o i_o be_o chemnitius_n pag._n 200._o at_o least_o in_o that_o edit_n i_o have_v genev._n 1641._o say_v not_o as_o the_o pamphlete_a allege_n viz._n that_o most_o of_o the_o father_n do_v avouch_v invocation_n of_o saint_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_n affirm_v pag._n 634._o that_o for_o 350._o year_n after_o christ_n there_o be_v no_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o publica_fw-la praxi_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la and_o that_o the_o first_o rise_v of_o it_o be_v about_o the_o year_n 370._o in_o nazianzen_n in_o basils_n panegyric_n by_o rhetorical_a apostrophe_n and_o that_o also_o with_o a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o far_o be_v they_o from_o maintain_v it_o to_o be_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n it_o be_v tedious_a to_o go_v through_o all_o among_o all_o these_o testimony_n cite_v by_o the_o pamphleter_n there_o will_v not_o one_o be_v find_v who_o affirm_v that_o popery_n be_v the_o prevalent_a religion_n for_o 1400_o year_n before_o luther_n except_o sebastian_n frank_n who_o dr._n francis_n whyte_n in_o the_o defence_n of_o dr._n john_n white_a against_o t._n w._n pag._n 324._o declare_v to_o be_v a_o anabaptist_n a_o unlearned_a malapert_a hot_a spur_n chemnitius_n as_o the_o same_o author_n testify_v call_v he_o hominem_fw-la petulantem_fw-la &_o indoctum_fw-la do_v ever_o protestant_n acknowledge_v that_o the_o body_n of_o the_o
speak_v too_o much_o for_o tradition_n yea_o and_o for_o tradition_n which_o romanist_n themselves_o reject_v such_o as_o a_o threefold_a immersion_n give_v honey_n and_o milk_n to_o person_n babtize_v etc._n etc._n either_o therefore_o romanist_n must_v montanize_v and_o condemn_v themselves_o for_o reject_v many_o tradition_n approve_v by_o tertullian_n or_o lay_v aside_o his_o testimony_n his_o book_n de_fw-fr coron_n militis_fw-la be_v suppose_v by_o some_o learned_a man_n to_o be_v write_v in_o his_o montanism_n yea_o and_o by_o pamelius_n himself_o in_o vitâ_fw-la tertull._n yet_o most_v of_o the_o tradition_n mention_v there_o be_v about_o ritual_n and_o disciplinary_a matter_n but_o in_o his_o writing_n against_o heretic_n such_o as_o that_o against_o hermogenes_n and_o his_o prescription_n he_o be_v full_a for_o we_o it_o have_v be_v therefore_o the_o pamphleteer_n prudence_n not_o to_o have_v touch_v his_o book_n de_fw-fr praescriptionibus_fw-la for_o there_o express_o he_o 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mantuan_a speak_v most_o express_o to_o this_o purpose_n we_o be_v persuade_v say_v he_o that_o scripture_n flow_v from_o the_o first_o truth_n sed_fw-la unde_fw-la sumus_fw-la ita_fw-la persuasi_fw-la nisi_fw-la a_o seipsa_fw-la but_o beside_o this_o romanist_n must_v be_v remember_v that_o the_o tradition_n attest_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v not_o to_o be_v reckon_v among_o unwritten_a tradition_n the_o same_o be_v write_v 2_o tim._n 3.15_o there_o be_v also_o many_o learned_a divine_n who_o defer_v very_o much_o to_o that_o tradition_n in_o the_o resolution_n of_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o scripture_n who_o yet_o hold_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o complete_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o all_o the_o article_n or_o material_a object_n of_o our_o faith_n be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n what_o need_v i_o more_o against_o the_o necessity_n of_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o the_o present_a romish_a sense_n see_v austin_n lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la lit._n petilian_n cap._n 6._o pronounce_v a_o anathema_n upon_o all_o they_o who_o shall_v teach_v any_o thing_n either_o of_o christ_n or_o his_o church_n or_o any_o matter_n of_o faith_n beside_o that_o which_o be_v receive_v from_o legal_a and_o evangelical_a scripture_n hence_o another_o demonstration_n of_o the_o falsehood_n and_o novelty_n of_o the_o romish_a religion_n that_o unwritten_a tradition_n of_o article_n of_o faith_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v with_o equal_a devotion_n as_o the_o scripture_n of_o god_n be_v no_o essential_a of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o the_o first_o three_o age_n but_o this_o be_v a_o essential_a of_o the_o present_a romish_a faith_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n sect_n iii_o the_o three_o instance_n of_o novelty_n concern_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n consider_v and_o retort_v upon_o romanist_n the_o pamphleter_n in_o his_o three_o instance_n say_v that_o protestant_n deny_v the_o unbloody_a sacrifice_n of_o christ_n body_n 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alexandria_n protrept_v pag._n 41._o and_o strom_n lib._n 6._o pag._n 587._o edit_fw-la lutet_fw-la 1629._o and_o by_o origen_n lib._n 4._o cont_n celsum_fw-la i_o be_o not_o justify_v their_o opinion_n in_o this_o dr._n jer._n taylour_n put_v some_o fair_a gloss_n upon_o it_o in_o dust_z dub_v lib._n 2._o cap._n 2._o pag._n 345._o 346._o but_o have_v image_n be_v as_o frequent_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n then_o as_o now_o in_o the_o romish_a be_v it_o like_o those_o father_n will_v have_v condemn_v the_o very_a paint_n and_o statuary_n art_n shall_v any_o do_v so_o now_o among_o romanist_n how_o will_v the_o vatican_n thunder_n anathema_n against_o they_o many_o more_o evidence_n can_v be_v bring_v that_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o the_o first_o three_o age_n be_v a_o stranger_n to_o the_o now_o image_n worship_n of_o romanist_n let_v these_o for_o the_o time_n suffice_v only_o i_o must_v remember_v the_o reader_n of_o the_o subdivision_n of_o romanist_n touch_v this_o 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