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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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pag._n 25._o if_o this_o whole_a argument_n be_v grant_v nothing_o be_v gain_v by_o it_o against_o the_o proposition_n for_o his_o conclusion_n be_v only_o this_o ergo_fw-la the_o office_n and_o employment_n according_a to_o logic_n be_v relation_n whereas_o if_o it_o have_v conclude_v the_o
etc._n the_o apostle_n be_v set_v in_o corinth_n though_o not_o limit_v or_o confine_v to_o that_o church_n all_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o depend_v upon_o the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n have_v it_o be_v say_v god_n have_v set_v in_o the_o churches_n etc._n etc._n there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o shadow_n of_o a_o argument_n hence_o for_o their_o be_v officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n and_o see_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n ver_fw-la 12._o 14._o 17._o etc._n etc._n he_o speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o body_n the_o body_n and_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o yet_o all_o natural_a body_n do_v not_o make_v one_o body_n and_o ver_fw-la 18._o god_n set_v the_o member_n in_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n yet_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_n body_n how_o can_v his_o speak_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n for_o 28._o and_o that_o in_o the_o application_n of_o the_o same_o similitude_n prove_v a_o catholic_n church_n make_v up_o of_o all_o church_n to_o evidence_n that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o they_o deny_v jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 146_o we_o ask_v whether_o if_o they_o murder_v he_o will_v not_o this_o nullify_v his_o office_n and_o if_o so_o why_o may_v not_o their_o sin_n other_o way_n make_v void_a the_o office_n also_o object_n mr._n poole_n say_v we_o confound_v the_o nullify_n of_o the_o office_n and_o the_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o 2._o he_o demand_v whether_o this_o hold_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o no_o whether_o if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n and_o that_o prove_v heretical_a and_o vote_v down_o the_o apostle_n will_v this_o make_v their_o office_n null_n or_o no_o he_o say_v this_o follow_v upon_o our_o principle_n for_o the_o church_n the_o correlate_n cease_v they_o must_v needs_o cease_v also_o &_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la 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any_o one_o read_v our_o book_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 268._o where_o we_o use_v these_o word_n this_o be_v but_o half_a a_o election_n and_o that_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o it_o do_v not_o constitute_v mathias_n a_o apostle_n as_o appear_v because_o the_o choose_n of_o the_o one_o which_o be_v by_o god_n be_v the_o constitute_v act_n act_n 1._o 24._o etc._n etc._n by_o which_o any_o one_o may_v see_v that_o we_o deny_v the_o apostle_n to_o be_v constitute_v by_o the_o church_n and_o assert_v it_o to_o be_v by_o god_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v do_v we_o much_o injury_n in_o this_o report_n 3._o suppose_v a_o church_n murther_v its_o officer_n either_o he_o must_v say_v that_o they_o be_v officer_n after_o they_o be_v dead_a which_o be_v absurd_a or_o else_o he_o must_v grant_v that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n deny_v 4._o no_o supposition_n may_v be_v allow_v which_o impli_v a_o 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the_o world_n who_o only_o have_v power_n according_a to_o he_o to_o ordain_v and_o they_o through_o treachery_n and_o frowardness_n shall_v refuse_v to_o put_v forth_o their_o power_n for_o a_o succession_n they_o die_v and_o so_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n be_v nullify_v neither_o do_v his_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n pag._n 33._o 34._o take_v off_o this_o for_o here_o the_o case_n be_v not_o whole_o different_a here_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v as_o great_a a_o inconvenience_n to_o assert_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v give_v to_o minister_n a_o juridical_a power_n as_o they_o judge_v that_o of_o ordination_n to_o be_v by_o the_o abuse_n of_o which_o they_o may_v if_o they_o please_v disannul_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n chap._n vii_o wherein_o our_o argument_n for_o man_n being_n officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a be_v vindicate_v from_o the_o exception_n which_o mr._n pool_n bring_v against_o they_o some_o argument_n we_o use_v to_o prove_v that_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a church_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 35._o den_n yes_o the_o major_a of_o our_o first_o syllogism_n but_o meddle_v not_o with_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o and_o so_o it_o remain_v firm_a still_o to_o prove_v our_o minor_a we_o use_v this_o argument_n arg._n 1._o all_o that_o flock_n or_o church_n over_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v a_o man_n a_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n he_o be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o and_o sin_v if_o he_o do_v not_o but_o no_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o universal_a church_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la ob._n mr._n pool_n
how_o these_o arguing_n agree_v we_o know_v not_o object_n 2._o no_o doubt_v they_o be_v the_o first-born_a that_o do_v lay_v hand_n on_o the_o levite_n ans_fw-fr this_o be_v full_o answer_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 344._o most_o that_o he_o say_v from_o pag._n 157_o to_o 161._o be_v either_o inconsiderable_a or_o answrable_a or_o answer_v before_o object_n 1._o we_o hear_v not_o a_o syllable_n of_o the_o people_n concurrence_n in_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n p._n 158._o paul_n in_o all_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n speak_v not_o a_o word_n about_o ordination_n sure_o the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v argumentative_a p._n 159._o ans_fw-fr if_o this_o will_v stand_v many_o of_o his_o principle_n must_v fall_v for_o we_o hear_v not_o a_o syllable_n in_o holy_a write_v of_o the_o subordination_n of_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o point_n of_o government_n unto_o assembly_n make_v up_o of_o the_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n nor_o of_o the_o subordination_n of_o synod_n one_o to_o another_o nor_o of_o its_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n which_o be_v mention_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o nay_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n in_o scripture_n for_o a_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v in_o ordination_n out_o of_o the_o particular_a church_n he_o be_v over_o upon_o a_o ordinary_a call_n and_o so_o the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v as_o much_o argumentative_a in_o case_n a_o church_n have_v no_o officer_n in_o it_o against_o ordination_n by_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n our_o officer_n as_o against_o ordination_n by_o the_o people_n object_n 2._o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n for_o the_o apostle_n be_v a_o precedent_n for_o minister_n baptise_v and_o not_o the_o people_n and_o for_o their_o ordain_v and_o not_o the_o people_n pag._n 158._o ans_fw-fr we_o have_v reason_n against_o the_o people_n baptise_v which_o be_v not_o fetch_v from_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o apostle_n baptise_v and_o which_o speak_v not_o against_o the_o people_n act_v in_o ordination_n 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evidence_n that_o stumbler_n at_o and_o opposer_n of_o the_o word_n in_o respect_n of_o he_o that_o teach_v may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v teach_v this_o be_v all_o we_o produce_v it_o for_o as_o any_o reader_n may_v see_v and_o this_o it_o clear_o prove_v that_o no_o mere_a man_n can_v be_v a_o officer_n to_o such_o we_o prove_v but_o it_o be_v by_o other_o medium_n not_o by_o that_o text_n neither_o can_v any_o inferrence_n be_v draw_v from_o our_o word_n against_o christ_n be_v a_o officer_n to_o such_o especial_o see_v christ_n be_v a_o extraordinary_a person_n even_o the_o lawmaker_n and_o determiner_n who_o man_n shall_v be_v officer_n to_o as_o to_o the_o apostle_n in_o a_o large_a sense_n they_o be_v officer_n to_o heathen_n but_o not_o officer_n over_o they_o or_o in_o a_o strict_a sense_n as_o we_o have_v show_v in_o this_o book_n ch._n 7._o 2._o the_o second_o we_o own_o if_o the_o rest_n of_o our_o word_n be_v add_v to_o it_o neither_o have_v he_o disprove_v it_o we_o will_v know_v from_o who_o apollo_n have_v a_o probation_n before_o his_o preach_n 3._o the_o three_o be_v prove_v in_o the_o page_n he_o quote_v and_o also_o in_o this_o book_n chap._n 10._o let_v he_o evidence_n that_o a_o outward_a call_n from_o man_n be_v any_o where_o in_o scripture_n style_v a_o mission_n or_o send_v or_o that_o any_o but_o god_n do_v send_v in_o the_o sense_n we_o take_v it_o in_o there_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v that_o a_o church_n be_v to_o give_v a_o call_n to_o office_n but_o we_o deny_v that_o send_n be_v that_o call_v 4._o the_o four_o we_o own_v neither_o have_v he_o disprove_v it_o and_o the_o same_o we_o say_v to_o the_o sixth_o and_o seven_o as_o to_o the_o fist_n about_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n not_o as_o pastor_n we_o desire_v the_o reader_n will_v view_v our_o former_a book_n pag._n 280._o and_o this_o book_n chap._n 6._o as_o to_o the_o eight_o &_o nine_o we_o have_v speak_v to_o they_o ch._n 6._o 2._o as_o to_o his_o accusation_n for_o selfe-contradicting_a passage_n we_o answer_v 1._o we_o can_v find_v nothing_o like_o a_o contradiction_n in_o our_o word_n if_o pag._n 20_o and_o 149._o be_v compare_v for_o if_o a_o man_n may_v lawful_o preach_v yet_o may_v there_o not_o be_v divers_a thing_n pre-required_n unto_o his_o preach_v here_o or_o there_o may_v not_o a_o man_n have_v power_n to_o preach_v and_o yet_o want_v requisite_n unto_o the_o exercise_n of_o that_o power_n in_o this_o or_o that_o place_n do_v not_o they_o say_v a_o man_n may_v have_v power_n and_o yet_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o some_o or_o a_o special_a call_n may_v not_o exercise_v that_o power_n in_o such_o a_o place_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 144_o do_v not_o mr._n pool_n express_o assert_v it_o pag._n 6._o yea_o he_o say_v pag._n 48._o it_o be_v true_a no_o preacher_n be_v in_o scripture_n oblige_v to_o preach_v in_o such_o or_o such_o a_o place_n etc._n etc._n what_o do_v we_o say_v more_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o word_n pag._n 163._o upon_o himself_o &_o say_v how_o can_v a_o man_n preach_v but_o he_o must_v preach_v in_o this_o or_o that_o place_n quod_fw-la nusquam_fw-la fit_a non_fw-la fit_n so_o that_o the_o contradiction_n if_o it_o be_v one_o be_v as_o much_o he_o as_o we_o 2_o it_o be_v his_o gross_a mistake_n to_o say_v that_o we_o be_v guilty_a of_o selfe-contradiction_n in_o the_o other_o two_o particular_n which_o he_o mention_v pag._n 163._o for_o what_o he_o rehearse_v out_o of_o our_o book_n pag._n 300._o to_o make_v one_o part_n of_o the_o contradiction_n be_v a_o objection_n of_o they_o they_o be_v not_o our_o word_n but_o the_o word_n of_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n jus._n divin_n min._n pag._n 133._o and_o that_o which_o he_o make_v the_o other_o part_n of_o the_o contradiction_n be_v our_o answer_n to_o the_o aforesaid_a objection_n and_o so_o we_o do_v but_o oppose_v they_o pag._n 302._o not_o contradict_v ourselves_o they_o be_v their_o word_n from_o p._n 300._o l._n 21._o to_o p._n 301._o lin_v 14._o &_o this_o he_o may_v easy_o have_v see_v though_o it_o be_v not_o print_v in_o a_o different_a character_n and_o now_o we_o shall_v put_v mr._n pool_n in_o mind_n of_o some_o of_o he_o 1._o novel_a and_o strange_a passage_n 2._o selfe-contradiction_n 3._o repugnancy_n to_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n who_o case_n he_o plead_v &_o the_o dr._n 1._o novel_a &_o strange_a passage_n 1._o he_o say_v that_o a_o minister_n may_v be_v a_o minister_n though_o he_o have_v no_o particular_a church_n to_o which_o he_o stand_v relate_v p._n 11._o &_o by_o minister_n he_o intend_v a_o officer_n pag._n 10._o 2._o he_o say_v that_o heathen_n be_v a_o part_n of_o christ_n body_n pag._n 13._o and_o therefore_o be_v the_o object_n and_o