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A20031 A true, modest, and iust defence of the petition for reformation, exhibited to the Kings most excellent Maiestie Containing an answere to the confutation published under the names of some of the Vniuersitie of Oxford. Together vvith a full declaration out of the Scriptures, and practise of the primitiue Church, of the severall points of the said petition. Sprint, John, d. 1623. Anatomy of the controversed ceremonies of the church of England. 1618 (1618) STC 6469; ESTC S119326 135,310 312

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16._o 3._o because_o the_o apocrypha_fw-la book_n as_o hierom_n say_v contain_v many_o falsity_n mix_v with_o truth_n the_o contradiction_n between_o the_o canonical_a book_n of_o esther_n and_o the_o apocryphal_a be_v divers_a and_o not_o to_o be_v reconcile_v as_o the_o learned_a have_v note_v the_o story_n of_o bell_n and_o the_o dragon_n hierom_n call_v fable_n and_o so_o do_v augustine_n in_o toby_n the_o angel_n be_v 32._o consul_n whit._n q._n 1._o de_fw-fr script_n c._n 18._o praef._n in_o dan._n aug._n de_fw-fr mirabilibus_fw-la lib._n 2._o c._n 32._o bring_v in_o to_o tell_v a_o tale_n that_o he_o be_v of_o the_o stock_n of_o azarias_n c._n 5._o 8._o the_o devil_n be_v drive_v away_o with_o the_o smell_n of_o a_o broil_a liver_n c._n 8._o 3._o the_o story_n of_o judith_n commend_v such_o trick_n and_o devise_n as_o become_v not_o the_o modesty_n of_o a_o woman_n profess_v virtue_n ecclesiasticus_fw-la tell_v we_o that_o samuel_n prophesy_v after_o he_o be_v dead_a c._n 46._o 20._o in_o the_o macchabee_n judas_n be_v commend_v for_o offer_v sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a l._n 2._o c._n 12._o razis_n extol_v for_o kill_v himself_o l._n 2._o c._n 14._o v._n 42._o 4._o book_n that_o bear_v false_a title_n be_v not_o to_o be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n which_o the_o canon_n call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d can_v apost_n 59_o but_o such_o be_v the_o apochriphall_a book_n hierom_n say_v non_fw-la eorum_fw-la esse_fw-la quorum_fw-la titulis_fw-la praenotantur_fw-la they_o be_v not_o they_o who_o title_n they_o show_v augustine_n say_v that_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n be_v think_v to_o be_v s_z propter_fw-la non_fw-la nullam_fw-la eloquij_fw-la similitudinem_fw-la but_o for_o some_o likeness_n of_o the_o style_n l._n 17._o de_fw-la civ_o dei_fw-la c._n 20._o 5._o that_o which_o give_v occasion_n of_o error_n shall_v not_o be_v admit_v but_o the_o read_n of_o apochripha_n be_v occasion_n of_o error_n to_o induce_v the_o people_n to_o think_v that_o they_o be_v scripture_n and_o therefore_o the_o laodicene_a council_n join_v both_o these_o together_a quae_fw-la oportet_fw-la legi_fw-la &_o in_o authoritatem_fw-la recipi_fw-la haec_fw-la sunt_fw-la these_o be_v the_o book_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v read_v and_o receive_v into_o authority_n can_v 59_o ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n last_o what_o other_o thing_n have_v the_o petitioner_n here_o move_v than_o his_o majesty_n have_v first_o write_v as_o to_o the_o apocrypha_n book_n i_o omit_v they_o because_o i_o be_o no_o papist_n and_o 1●_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 1●_n indeed_o some_o of_o they_o be_v no_o way_n like_o the_o ditement_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n i_o hope_v now_o our_o brethren_n will_v leave_v for_o the_o urge_n of_o this_o point_n of_o those_o fierce_a term_n of_o gross_o ignorant_a wilful_o malicious_a and_o turbulent_a lest_o we_o say_v to_o they_o as_o augustine_n to_o julian_n when_o he_o have_v produce_v hilary_n against_o pelag_n lib._n 2._o cont_n julian._n pelag_n he_o nunc_fw-la ergo_fw-la ne_fw-la tuis_fw-la stomachi_fw-la fellis_fw-la indigesta_fw-la maledictorum_fw-la cruditate_fw-la rumpatur_fw-la in_fw-la bunc_fw-la evome_fw-mi si_fw-mi audes_fw-ge calumniosas_fw-la tuas_fw-la vanitates_fw-la now_o lest_o your_o stomach_n burst_v with_o undigested_a rankor_n cast_v it_o upon_o he_o if_o you_o dare_v etc._n etc._n the_o defence_n of_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o petition_n concern_v church_n minister_n 1._o of_o a_o learned_a ministry_n first_o in_o that_o we_o desire_v that_o none_o but_o preacher_n from_o hence_o forth_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o ministry_n what_o do_v our_o brethren_n mean_v to_o impugn_v so_o honest_a and_o reasonable_a a_o petition_n do_v we_o herein_o request_v any_o more_o than_o his_o majesty_n have_v in_o his_o princely_a book_n approve_v thus_o write_v see_v all_o your_o church_n within_o your_o dominion_n plant_v with_o good_a pastor_n what_o 43._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 43._o be_v there_o now_o so_o gross_a in_o our_o church_n which_o these_o man_n will_v not_o maintain_v take_v upon_o they_o to_o justify_v a_o unlearned_a ministry_n unless_o they_o mistike_a this_o motion_n because_o it_o proceed_v of_o we_o hierome_n say_v in_o alijs_fw-la probant_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o i_o reprobant_fw-la quasi_fw-la paralip_n praefac_o in_o paralip_n virtus_fw-la &_o vitium_fw-la non_fw-la in_o rebus_fw-la sit_fw-la sed_fw-la cum_fw-la authoribus_fw-la mutetur_fw-la they_o like_v that_o in_o other_o which_o in_o i_o they_o mislike_v as_o though_o good_a and_o evell_n be_v not_o in_o the_o thing_n but_o alter_v with_o their_o author_n 2._o what_o reason_n have_v they_o for_o the_o lord_n day_n which_o term_v the_o petitioner_n sunday_n of_o the_o name_n of_o sunday_n use_v to_o say_v sunday_n do_v this_o name_n which_o be_v invent_v of_o the_o heathen_a better_a like_o they_o then_o the_o name_n of_o that_o day_n find_v in_o scripture_n or_o do_v not_o the_o father_n much_o mislike_v those_o heathenish_a 43._o apoc._n 1._o 10._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d
13._o abraham_n circumcise_v his_o servant_n as_o well_o as_o his_o son_n gen._n 17._o 13._o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n or_o of_o some_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o be_v as_o a_o parent_n to_o it_o than_o it_o suffice_v the_o father_n or_o he_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o be_v as_o a_o parent_n to_o make_v confession_n of_o his_o faith_n the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a because_o as_o the_o covenant_n run_v so_o run_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o the_o covenant_n be_v make_v with_o the_o father_n in_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o father_n not_o with_o any_o relation_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o child_n as_o appeareth_z by_o that_o i_o will_v be_v thy_o 7._o gen._n 17._o 7._o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n therefore_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o father_n or_o he_o that_o will_v be_v in_o stead_n of_o the_o father_n to_o make_v confession_n of_o his_o faith_n because_o as_o the_o scripture_n show_v it_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n that_o 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and_o cyprian_n so_o be_v exufflation_n use_v of_o the_o church_n as_o augustine_n speak_v joh._n tert._n de_fw-fr resus_fw-la carn_n cyp._n lib._n 1._o epist_n 22._o ang._n lib_n 2._o the_o imp_n &_o corrup_n c._n 18._o ang._n lib_n 1_o de_fw-la pecat_fw-la &_o remis_fw-la c._n 24._o mald._n in_o joh._n toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la diffusa_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la ubique_fw-la omnes_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la infantuli_fw-la exufflantur_fw-la and_o yet_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o good_a cause_n have_v refuse_v both_o in_o augustine_n time_n and_o long_o before_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v give_v to_o infant_n maldonatus_n the_o jesuite_n confess_v it_o be_v so_o and_o that_o with_o opinion_n of_o necessity_n that_o child_n perish_v that_o die_v without_o it_o and_o yet_o the_o antiquity_n of_o this_o can_v make_v it_o good_a as_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o paul_n ergo_fw-la every_o thing_n that_o be_v ancient_a be_v not_o 28._o 1._o cor._n 11._o 28._o therefore_o by_o and_o by_o currant_n 2._o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o use_n of_o interrogatory_n be_v most_o ancient_a we_o read_v in_o scripture_n of_o interrogatory_n minister_v to_o 4._o act._n 8._o 37._o tert._n de_fw-fr spec_fw-la c._n 4._o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n and_o discretion_n as_o to_o the_o eunuch_n si_fw-mi credis_fw-la etc._n etc._n credo_fw-la if_o thou_o believe_v etc._n etc._n i_o believe_v and_o tertul._n say_v aquam_fw-la ingressi_fw-la christianam_fw-la fidem_fw-la in_o suae_fw-la legis_fw-la verba_fw-la profitemur_fw-la renunciasse_n nos_fw-la diabolo_fw-la ore_fw-la nostro_fw-la contestamur_fw-la be_v to_o be_v baptize_v we_o profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n we_o solemn_o profess_v with_o our_o mouth_n that_o we_o have_v renounce_v the_o devil_n but_o of_o any_o interrogatory_n that_o be_v minister_v to_o infant_n we_o read_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o book_n of_o god_n 3_o though_o the_o father_n mention_n this_o use_n yet_o that_o many_o dislike_v it_o even_o in_o their_o time_n appear_v by_o tertullian_n himself_o bape_n lib._n the_o bape_n who_o wish_v that_o infant_n may_v be_v keep_v till_o they_o can_v make_v their_o own_o answer_n lest_o we_o promise_v that_o for_o they_o which_o they_o will_v never_o perform_v and_o boniface_n the_o bb._n move_v the_o doubt_n to_o aug._n &_o argue_v against_o it_o when_o the_o 23._o aug._n epist_n 23._o witness_n say_v the_o infant_n believe_v dicunt_fw-la eos_fw-la facere_fw-la etc._n etc._n they_o say_v they_o do_v that_o which_o that_o age_n be_v not_o able_a to_o think_v 2._o if_o they_o do_v believe_v yet_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a to_o we_o 3._o if_o a_o man_n shall_v by_o and_o by_o ask_v the_o witness_n of_o the_o child_n whether_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o thief_n or_o no_o they_o will_v answer_v they_o can_v tell_v and_o if_o they_o can_v tell_v this_o how_o can_v they_o tell_v that_o it_o will_v believe_v 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of_o christ_n and_o so_o szegedinus_n si_fw-la baptizandus_fw-la 167._o szeg._n de_fw-fr bap_n p._n 167._o est_fw-la infans_fw-la nec_fw-la fides_fw-la nec_fw-la fidei_fw-la confessio_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la poscatur_fw-la absurdum_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la id_fw-la requirere_fw-la ab_fw-la infante_fw-la quodnec_fw-la deus_fw-la ipse_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la requirit_fw-la nec_fw-la ille_fw-la per_fw-la aetatem_fw-la habere_fw-la nec_fw-la exprimere_fw-la potest_fw-la 48._o bez._n in_o conf_n c._n 4._o 48._o of_o the_o same_o judgement_n be_v beza_n wherefore_o most_o noble_a king_n 1._o see_v the_o interrogatory_n give_v man_n occasion_n to_o utter_v a_o untrueth_n before_o the_o lord_n 2._o see_v they_o give_v strength_n to_o their_o error_n that_o think_v child_n have_v faith_n which_o indeed_o they_o have_v not_o 3._o see_v the_o infant_n be_v not_o baptize_v into_o his_o own_o faith_n but_o into_o the_o faith_n of_o his_o father_n or_o susceptor_n 4._o see_v it_o be_v ridiculous_a to_o say_v they_o do_v that_o which_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o reasonable_a man_n they_o can_v do_v 5._o see_v the_o first_o and_o best_a church_n know_v they_o not_o last_o see_v those_o church_n that_o receive_v they_o yet_o have_v many_o learned_a and_o good_a man_n that_o upon_o good_a ground_n dislike_v they_o we_o trust_v your_o majesty_n will_v establish_v that_o which_o shall_v be_v more_o please_v to_o god_n and_o better_a like_n to_o your_o best_a affect_a subject_n 3._o against_o confirmation_n 1._o where_o the_o gift_n be_v cease_v there_o the_o ceremony_n and_o the_o sign_n must_v cease_v also_o as_o anoint_v of_o the_o sick_a use_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n be_v now_o cease_v because_o the_o miraculous_a gift_n of_o heal_v be_v cease_v 14._o jam._n 1._o 14._o but_o the_o gift_n of_o give_v the_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v now_o cease_v as_o augustine_n say_v neque_fw-la enim_fw-la temporalibus_fw-la &_o 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this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n the_o sign_n without_o the_o