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A34436 The Quakers cleared from being apostates, ok [sic], The hammerer defeated and proved an impostor being an answer to a scurrilous pamphlet falsly intituled William Penn and the Quakers either apostates or impostors, subscribed Trepidantium Malleus : with a postscript containing some reflections on a pamphlet intituled The spirit of Quakerism and the danger of their divine revelation, laid open / by B.C. Coole, Benjamin, d. 1717. 1696 (1696) Wing C6047; ESTC R29716 43,852 97

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some of his Brethren has set forms he infers though very unjustly that the Quakers decline it We do say if Men pray they ought to pray with the Spirit and with an Understanding also and therefore we say all are to attend the Spirits time in order to help them in the production of what it hath conceived and 't is certain that they who are intent hereon shall not find themselves at a loss for want of the Spirit to enable them when the Circumstance of Time and Place calls for it yet at all times Men are to have their Hearts set on God and to meditate on his Law but they are not always obliged to a Vocal Prayer nor doth God expect it though sometimes he do that they may sanctifie his Name by a Vocal Prayer as well in a private Family as a publick Meeting and this the Quakers own and practice therefore he is a Defamer Persecutor and Impostor for insinuating the contrary In Page 51. Our Adversary is very Abusive touching our belief of a Christ within which he falsly puts in opposition to a Christ without saying This Word outward is in great Contempt with them but how this word Outward is so contemptible with them he has not assigned That we are Contemners of the outward Scripture is false from what is said before That we are Contemners of Christ viz. he that was Crucified is as false for we are well assured that by the Offering up of himself upon the Cross he became a Propitiatory Sacrifice for the Sins of the whole World and by vertue of his Blood comes Remission of Sins and yet this Remission is no otherwise to be Experienced than by Mens Repentance and Belief of the Truth and a Faithful walking in Holiness of Life with which as an Ingenious Author said we may but without which we never shall be saved notwithstanding Christ Died for us The Design of whose Death was not to make a good Life unnecessary but to render it efficacious and available not to procure a Priviledge of being Saved without it as some fancy but that we might be Saved with it c. After he has told his Reader That Baptism and the Lord's Supper were Outward Ordinances with them he queries But why does not these Men contemn outward Meats and Drinks and Outward Cloathing too If they did the Controversie would soon be at an end But for all his Scoffs he is mistaken though by ending the Controversie he means we should be out of his way I must confess I believe it would be a joyful Day to him and such as he But pray let me Expostulate with these People a little Are not you for an inward Vertue from Christ the Fountain to Revive your Spirits and Comfort your Souls under any Affliction as well as to Encourage you to Perseverance Are not you for the Marrow of the Scripture as well as the Words and Sentences therein contained Are not you for sitting down in an Heavenly Place in Christ Are not you desirous of receiving the Substance of what Baptism and the Supper is but the Sign of If you say Yea may not I if I would act the part of this Hammerer return it upon you that you are since you cry up the outward all for the outward but not at all for the inward Which I can with as much Justice and Truth do as he has Charg'd the Quakers for contemning all the outward c. But what a poor Flurt was it to bring in outward Meats and Drinks and Cloaths too and then the Controversie he saith will soon be ended But that 's not true for we are against outward Meats and Drinks and Cloathing too and yet the Controversie is not ended and if he had not been blinded with Folly as well as Envy he might have escaped such a Blunder For where Meats and Drinks are offered either Superstitiously or Profanely the Quakers are against it and refuse it But what a comparison he has made Here is Christ without the Scriptures without Heaven without Baptism without the Lord's Supper without with outward Meats outward Drings and outward Cloating and what weight there is in that pray read Col. 2. 17. and then let him tell me according to his own Comparison what real ground there is for him or any else to blame the Quakers for disusing the Two Great Ordinances as they call them since according to his Comparison they are but a shadow and if People have seen and enjoy the Substance and will follow it rather than the Shadow are they to be blamed for it or called Hereticks But till the Substance is known those Shadows may have their Service and we are not for pressing any to decline it till their own Convictions do For I agree with the Apostles who said Let every Man be fully perswaded in his own Mind There has been many Books writ upon this Subject of Baptism I shall therefore say the less the greatest Argument I have ever heard brought for the Continuation of Water-Baptism was from Acts 10. 48. which stands thus Can any Man forbid Water that those should not be Baptized which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we from which they argue that if Baptism was not a standing Ordinance since these had received the Holy Ghost why was it here practiced I Answer first of all there was no mention of Water in the Commission Mat. 28. 19 20. yet to teach Baptizing was secondly since John's Baptism was distinguisht from Christ's by Water as that was from John's by the Holy Ghost nothing can be more plain than that Christ intended his and not John's Baptism And if the Apostle Paul was not behind as he saith he was not any of the Apostles yet 't is evident he did not understand Mat. 28. 19 20. in the sence our Adversaries do for if Baptizing with Water was a part of the Commission there mentioned he never understood his Commission if he had he would not have thanked God that he Baptized so few as he did and positively declared that he was not sent to Baptize but to Preach the Gospel but that he did some and Peter more is true but this neither proves it a standing Ordinance nor yet that it was by Command from God to be a standing Ordinance but as in the Case of Circumcision Anointing the Sick and divers other things practiced by the Jews whose Religion was greatly Ceremonious as the Gentiles was Idolatrous the Disciples of Jesus condescended as in the case of Circumcision that by becoming all to all they might gain some for to take them off all at once was not likely to be received by them since by a long Custom they had used themselves to such outward things But besides John himself had before declared that he must decrease and that Christ must increase which plainly implied the decrease of his Ministry and Baptism not all at once but gradually as it did the increase of Christ's Ministry and Baptism