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A33523 A just vindication of the covenant and church-estate of children of church-members as also of their right unto bastisme : wherein such things as have been brought by divers to the contrary, especially by Ioh. Spilsbury, A.R. Ch. Blackwood, and H. Den are revised and answered : hereunto is annexed a refutation of a certain pamphlet styled The plain and wel-grounded treatise touching baptism / by Thomas Cobbet. Cobbet, Thomas, 1608-1685. 1648 (1648) Wing C4778; ESTC R25309 266,318 321

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alone_o convey_v sin_n to_o the_o infant_n it_o believe_v then_o and_o its_o baptism_n be_v valid_a and_o it_o be_v join_v to_o the_o faithful_a former_o baptize_v this_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n our_o mother_n hold_v this_o do_v the_o sure_a canon_n or_o rule_n of_o truth_n obtain_v thus_o far_o forth_o than_o it_o be_v look_v at_o as_o a_o doctrine_n not_o only_o which_o the_o church_n have_v in_o it_o but_o which_o the_o scripture_n the_o rule_n of_o truth_n contain_v in_o it_o that_o in_o the_o business_n of_o baptism_n at_o least_o the_o faith_n of_o such_o as_o convey_v sin_n to_o the_o child_n even_o of_o the_o parent_n be_v in_o stead_n of_o its_o own_o personal_a faith_n so_o far_o as_o to_o make_v its_o baptism_n valid_a and_o beneficial_a to_o it_o sect_n four_o arnobius_n arnobius_n the_o next_o witness_n be_v arnobius_n upon_o the_o psalm_n which_o perkins_n put_v at_o the_o year_n 290._o but_o because_o perkins_n in_o praepar_n ad_fw-la demon._n probl._n 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all_o without_o regard_n to_o their_o parent_n church_n or_o covenant_n estate_n yet_o be_v it_o a_o old_a error_n albeit_o not_o so_o old_a so_o far_o as_o i_o can_v find_v but_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v take_v in_o reference_n to_o child_n visible_o in_o the_o covenant_n i_o wonder_v if_o he_o shall_v speak_v any_o such_o thing_n in_o that_o sense_n have_v so_o solemn_o subscribe_v to_o the_o contrary_a in_o that_o famous_a meeting_n at_o wittenberg_n former_o mention_v sect_n iii_o calvin_n that_o grand_a opposer_n and_o stigmatizer_n of_o anabaptist_n be_v quote_v to_o confirm_v proposition_n 6._o and_o 8_o lib._n 4._o instit_fw-la cap._n 16._o he_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v not_o where_o express_o mention_v by_o the_o evangelist_n that_o any_o one_o child_n be_v by_o the_o apostle_n hand_n baptize_v now_o calvin_n have_v say_v sect._n 8._o that_o there_o be_v none_o which_o see_v not_o that_o paedobaptism_n be_v not_o of_o humane_a devise_v which_o be_v establish_v by_o such_o 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