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A91052 A short answer to a book set forth by seven priests, who call themselves ministers of the gospel of Christ; but are plainly discovered to be lyers, and slanderers, and envious of them who are the true ministers of Christ, who abide in his doctrine. With a vvord to the reader, to read with understanding, and let the light of Jesus Christ within judge; for to that in the conscience it is spoken. H. P. 1654 (1654) Wing P36; Thomason E808_10; ESTC R207524 32,741 32

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Gospel and from the day-Star So it is you that takes Scripture away from people and layes it waste and makes it of no effect And again you are inquiring whether there be a prophetical light in every one Here you have given Christ a new name contrary to Scripture who saith he is the light and enlightens every one but here you shew out of what land you are come who cals the light prophetical And you are inquiring what this light in man prophesieth of Here you shew your selves to be strangers again from it and hates it the light wherewith Christ hath enlightned who are inquiring What is the day-star when you love the light you shall know what it prophesieth of and what the day-star is but with this light you shall be condemned and you are under that saying of Christ Light shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehendeth it not And here you preach forth your selves to be blinde guides who are strangers from the day-star And you say The Scripture was written for you learning and to make you wise to salvation through saith in Christ Jesus These were the Apostles words to the Saints which shew your selves to be them which have the words of the Apostles and Christ as your fathers which had the writings of the Prophers but was not wise unto salvation but persecuted Christ as you do where he was made manifest And whereas you say The Scriptures they lay aside as waste This is another of your lyes they are not true to you if they be not in your hearts as they were in them that spoke them forth O ye thieves which are making thieves where are they that are stealing the word from his neighbour useth their tongues but ye are the thieves which have not the Spirit which gave forth the Scriptures it was written for our learning who are come into the life of them that gave it forth as it was spoken to the Saints but the seed of evil doers is condemned with the life that gave it forth for it is against them and it is for the perfecting of the man of sin And whereas you are slandering in your p. 20. By their doctrine you say the Scriptures are ●urned into allegories This shall stand for your selves the Scriptures we own without any private interpretation for no prophesie of them came by the will of man And whereas you say Some dare not quite lay aside the Scripture You are the busie mindes that are spoken of for the Scriptures are not laid afide but witnessed every Scripture in its place for shame give over your lyes and you that denies the light of Christ and saith It is not pure denies all the openings of all the Scriptures and the Spirit of prophesie and the testimony of Jesus and the instruction of all children of God in Scriptures As for your stories and false applications those applications shall turn upon your selves for they are not worth mentioning and you that deny this light you neither read right nor understand the Scripture right And you say It 's more sure then a voice from the excellent glory concerning the word of prophesie which is to be tended upon more then one risen from the dead This word of prophesie you know nothing of which denies the light which Christ hath enlightned withal your prophesie is the letter which is death and nothing of the excellency of the glory you know who stumble at the light Whereas you say They say this light is the anointing from the Father and that they need not teach one another I answer In this light waiting the anointing is known which is received from the Father but your darkness cannot comprehend this light So you know not the anointing which stumbles at the light which keeps you out of the garden of which you talk of breaking down the walls it is but your walls that are broken down that stumbles at the light and with it you are condemned out of the garden and all the Saints favours And for saying they need no man teach them but the Lord this is witnessed among thousands and they need not say Know the Lord who are come into the new covenant this is witnessed And you say This destroyes Pastors Elders Bishops and plucks the seven stars out of the hand of Christ You enemies of God is not Christ the covenant which was promised who are in him need not say Know the Lord and is not he the end of the seven Stars and Bishops and Pastors and Elders and are not all these in their places to bring up to the stature and fulness of Christ and those we witness in their places but you are such who stumbles at the light Whereas you slander and say It cuts off all instructions All yours it doth who stumbles at the light but who dwells in the light are moved of the Lord daily to instruct and that which doth instruct the same doth convince and that is eternal and the word of God is the fame now which shall hew you down to the fire and the dung and hammer you down to the dust and all your twisting twining inventions which here is much of in this book which is not worth mentioning vented forth but with the light you are comprehended which you stumble at And again you say The teaching of man is implyed and not excluded Here again you are contrary to the Scripture and are excluded from the Apostles doctrine which preach glad tidings which was not made by the will of man And whereas you speak of believing Christ in them and that they perish for want of believing Christ made manifest in their flesh Here you have proved your selves to be reprobates and if he be not made manifest in you the works of the devil are standing and not destroyed And the Apostle spoke of a dying with Christ and a rising with Christ and they were to take heed to the sure word of prophesie as to a light shining in a dark place but this Christ is without you and not made manifest in you as the Apostle speaks which Christ was in them except they were reprobates Here your life is contrary to theirs and with the life which is the life of all the Saints you are judged out of the life of the Scriptures and to be reprobates you speak of Christ without you and the Apostles spoke of Christ in you except you be reprobates And Christ in you the hope of glory Christ the same yesterday to day and for ever we witness him made manifest amongst us and raigns as King the same which ever was made manifest among the Saints but you and your fathers in your generation persecuted him for he is without you as he was without your fathers as you may read in Matthew which be of the seed of your fathers the high Priests Whereas you say That them you call Quakers use the words of the Scriptures and say The kingdom of heaven is within you And
Apostle spoke of and them as Christ spoke of coming in sheeps skins but now you are made manifest to be the wolves with the light which you stumble at as your fathers ever did Whereas you say The righteousness by faith or power of Christ in you is not to be rested in Nay from this you are excluded the power of Christ in you and the Faith and Righteousness who stumbles at his light who saith you are not sent immediately as the Apostles were but the just lives by his Faith And whereas you say The externals of the Gospel are to be used with the power of godliness and transacted to the glory of Christ Here all may see your confused muckie stuff who would mix your externals with the everlasting Gospel power of Godliness and glory of Christ And your external religion not abolished to the new creature things that be external and worldly Here you shew your selves to be enemies to the cross of Christ and your external Religion is carnal which the new creature feeds not upon and the pure Religion you are cleared from which is to be kept unspotted of the world and this is eternal and all old Ceremonies and your external Religion comes here to be trampled upon with the new creature where all things are become new but from this you are cleared and kept without who stumbles at the light Something to that you call your confession of apparel and faith this is your doctrine if you see a man boast in apparel be not troubled it may be all his portion in the world Here you shew you are holders up of the world and whom ye are friends to and Lot's righteous soul was grieved at their filthy conversation and holders up of boasters you are which the Apostles doctrine denies both and said it was excluded and gives way to that the Apostles declared against and though you say the Scripture declares against pride and wantonness in apparel yet you would not have it declared against and saith If thou see a man boast in apparel be not troubled And here you shew again what Spirit you are on the world loves its own contrary to the righteous soul Whereas you say Apparel grew in use for distinction of sexes and qualities of persons modesty and custome of the country and members of societies and greater matters Was it the apparel that grew in use for distinction of all these there you are who knows one another outwardly with your apparel who are in the customs of the country without in the fashions of the world without the doctrine of Christ and not in the kingdom of Christ and we know all creatures were created to be used in their places as servants to us and whatsoever we do and use it must be to the glory of God So all your pride amongst you rich and proud ones must down the sword of the Lord is drawn out of the sheath and fitted for the slaughter take warning all you proud and lofty ones that are numbred for the sword and all your bags of honour as you call it must be trampled upon for that which is in esteem with you in your generation is abominrble to the Lord but all men in the Lord we honour In the lusts of ignorance you are and you would make people believe it was their apparel which kept off the bruitish sort of men In the lusts and in your ignorance you are in the wanton world ignorant of the true God who confessed you was not sent before as the Apostles were and so you have not learned Christ and know not his coming and all this dirty stuff is not worth mentioning You say You declare against those who hath cast off the denying of respecting of men and you call this abominable pride Here you manifest your selves who make no distinction among men for all men in the Lord we honour but all men out of the Lord are not to be honoured for ungodly such as you are are for condemnation and the beast is not to be worshipped who hates the light as saith Jude As for your speaking of the fine linnen of Saints and the new name silence flesh and vain bablers who are without in the world but thieves who have got the Saints words but in the generation and nature of them you are that put the Saints to death who saith The persecution is much taken off in England One of your Mothers which two servants of the Lord were moved to go to Cambridge were whipped and scourged till their bodies were torn and many in your Synagogues in the North some stocked stoned beat and many imprisoned as in Carlile Kendal York Chester Lancaster Newcastle which these Goales now doth witness it the fruits of your Ministeries and now it self doth shew it's Babylon and Core and not sent immediately as you confess it as the Apostles were and God is bringing down your pride your honour renown and glory the sword of the Lord is drawn against you take warning and against all your gluttony and drunkenness which you are speaking of in your book which is not worth mentioning which shews where your mindes are but I shall let it stand for your selves And sometimes you seem to be against these things and then you turn to your God again and so denies the living God Something you do write and oppose the law of community as you call it Here you are against the Spirit of life for they that did believe were of one heart they that do believe are born of God and amongst such there was was no oppressour no taskmaster it 's said all things were common no man said This is my own but with the Spirit of the living God which sanctifies all such bruitish sensual lustful devilish and worldly covetous taskmasters oppressors and whoremongers thieves lyers cursed speakers as you are who live in all unrighteousness and in pride loftiness hath no part in this communion for no unrighteousness shall inherit the kingdom of God but your law and community is without and we deny it and you to have any part in this communion but in the lake that burnes who stumbles at the light in which there is unity and saith it is not pure and that you are not sent as the Apostles were immediately who act sin and unrighteousness and stumbles at the light so all the ungodly you think are let loose but here is no bait for them but are kept out you and them both with that in which is your communion but all the conditions of the Saints passages travels and progresses we own in their places and who acted under figures and shadows we own but you who are not come to Christs doctrine who is not come to give your coat yet who hath two you we deny And as you say giving a coat of two to him that hath none This torments you you stumble at this as at the light you enemies of God and murtherers with the
lusts you shew where your hearts is without pitty or compassion who wilt not cover thy own flesh but it is that you may be made manifest and you have shewed that you are out of the doctrine of Christ you have been pleading for your interest in the earth there is your God and with the doctrine of Christ you are judged and your community we abhorre but the communion of the Saints we own and servants in their places diligent serving the Lord and children obeying their Parents in the Lord and forsaking all for the Lord and he that doth not is not worthy of him This we witness Whereas you are slandering and saying We are breaking marriage bonds and wedlock because we question what Scripture the Priests have to marry people and take money for it O ye enemies of God where do you read in all the Scriptures that the Priests are to take money for marrying of people such trades we deny if you call that wedlock Marriage is honourable in all things where the the bed is undefiled and that we own but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge and such we deny and all the Priests practises which they have no Scripture for and therefore we question them with authority and deny them both Whereas you are speaking of some that are not free to be Tenants Is the Lord drawing his people from under you taskmasters as from under Pharaoh which are proud and oppressors which you Priests have been examples of and taught the people And this torments you now you Priests because you are against it who have been the oppressors of the creation and are but the Lord is gathering his people from under you now as he did from under Pharaoh and doth proud Pharaoh begin to rage if this torment you you shall see more come with everlasting songs upon their heads singing over Pharaoh and his host The song of Moses and Lamb is begun to be heard in our land and the children of Israel which had their land-marks What 's that to you Egyptians proud and covetous who are for destruction as your father Pharaoh was who was an oppressor proud and a taskmaster Therefore wo to you bloody Cains which are compast under the wo you are of the stock of them that build Babel who are Babylon harlotted from the living God and your Mother hath sit as a Queen deckt with her colours but now the time of her widowhood is come and loss of children and she hath lost many children and that many Kings and Merchants of the earth laments crying Alas alas Whereas you are speaking of tumults and attempts put this not far from you for this may be seen in some of your generation this shall stand for your selves as it is made manifest what tumults are in your congregations And your boasting as giving up your bodies and estates But let these words return upon your selves again and see where your bodies are where your lives and estates are for many lies in prison because they will not pay Priests Tythes which is contrary to the Lord Jesus Christ and his doctrine which the Apostles ever lived in for he never sent you for you confess you are not sent immediately as the Apostles were You say There is not a prophesie in all the Scriptures that takes away all outward teachers Here I am full of the Spirit and power of the Lord to declare against you for in John he saith Ye need not any man téach you There is mans teaching outwardly denied and in Heb. 8. he saith Ye shall not teach every man his neighbour saying Know the Lord for all shall know him All who are in the new Covenant witnesseth this and who witness the new Covenant witness the Son of man and Jeremiah prophesied That they shall no more teach every man his neighbour saying Know the Lord And here you enemies of the God are raced out of the Covenant and are ignorant of the Lord And Ezekiel saith Thus saith the Lord I will deliver my sheep from their mouthes that hath devoured them such as you that have sought for the fleece and for the wool and I will search out my sheep and finde them out and feed them upon the top of the mountaines saith the Lord of hosts he that hath an ear to hear let him for he feeds upon the top of the mountains of Israel And Isaiah saith All the children of the Lord shall be taught of the Lord and much peace shall they have and in righteousness shall they be established And here let this prophesie judge you to be out of the new Covenant and contrary to the Prophets and Apostles which say You are not sent immediately as the Apostles were so how can you witness their conditions so here you have brought your selves under the chain And Jeremiah saith The Lord speaks in him Behold the dayes come saith the Lord that I will make a new covenant not according to the covenant I made with their fathers but this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel After those daies saith the Lord I will put my laws in their inward parts and in their hearts will I write them and I will be their God and they shall be my people And all these Scriptures I charge you all ye Priests of England to have laid waste and have brought none into the new Covenant neither are you there your selves who stumble at the light and denies the first principle They that need no man to teach them such you write against and speak against and so deny the new Covenant and bring the conditions of those that were not come to the Covenant to oppose the new Covenant them that are in it And for quoting many Scriptures of the Epistles and bringing the conditions of the Saints written in the Epistles and not knowing what condition they were written to let the readers of the book examine the Scriptures which you bring in your book and then they will see how you wrest the Scriptures to oppose the truth and how ignorant you are of the Scriptures You are bringing the Apostles which said If we minister unto you spiritual things it is least if you minister unto us carnal things This was spoken to them that denied the Priests the Saints and would not hold up such Priests as you Priests of England which seek for your gain from your quarter and have Balaams wages which is a horrible filthy thing and which the wo is upon and seeks for the fleece and makes a prey upon the people and if they will not give it you sue men at the law did ever the Apostles so Here O England let thy teachers who are in their whoredom from the life be witnessed against by all the Prophets and Apostles life and let all thy whoredoms testifie against thee in thy face for with the eternal life of them all thou art judged eternally You are speaking of Christs sending forth his and say