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A12800 Cassander Anglicanus shewing the necessity of conformitie to the prescribed ceremonies of our church, in case of depriuation. By Iohn Sprint, minister of Thornbury in Glocester-shire, sometimes of Christ-Church in Oxon. Sprint, John, d. 1623. 1618 (1618) STC 23108; ESTC S117795 199,939 306

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and_o piety_n of_o english_a man_n in_o this_o matter_n will_v rejoice_v many_o mind_n and_o be_v a_o help_n to_o the_o endeavour_n of_o other_o in_o the_o like_a and_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o enemy_n of_o the_o truth_n be_v very_o sorry_a of_o the_o good_a success_n and_o progress_n herein_o also_o he_o complain_v with_o gregory_n of_o some_o ut_fw-la commotis_fw-la studijs_fw-la contentio_fw-la semper_fw-la irritet_fw-la aliquorum_fw-la indignationem_fw-la utque_fw-la nimio_fw-la ardore_fw-la interdum_fw-la admodum_fw-la peccetur_fw-la dum_fw-la nemo_fw-la minus_fw-la videri_fw-la altero_fw-la ac_fw-la potius_fw-la solus_fw-la sapere_fw-la vult_fw-la fit_a ut_fw-la non_fw-la necessarijs_fw-la quaestionibus_fw-la &_o disputationibus_fw-la necessariarum_fw-la rerum_fw-la cognitio_fw-la negligatur_fw-la further_o he_o show_v this_o contention_n of_o brethren_n about_o this_o book_n to_o come_v of_o the_o devil_n who_o fail_v one_o way_n seek_v another_o to_o mischief_n the_o church_n he_o complain_v of_o some_o aliquam_fw-la divisionis_fw-la occasionem_fw-la arripientibus_fw-la non_fw-la iam_fw-la nulli_fw-la &_o vocabula_fw-la &_o penissyllabas_fw-la expendendo_fw-la verbis_fw-la tantùm_fw-la litigant_fw-la reipsa_fw-la si_fw-la placidè_fw-la exquiratur_fw-la futuri_fw-la concord_n of_o the_o common_a prayer_n book_n itself_o he_o say_v hic_fw-la libre_fw-la &_o per_fw-la se_fw-la utilis_fw-la futura_fw-la lectio_fw-la ipsius_fw-la quàm_fw-la plurimis_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la tempore_fw-la divinitus_fw-la oblatus_fw-la esse_fw-la videatur_fw-la ibid._n fol._n 375._o cranmer_z martyr_n in_o his_o purgation_n of_o slander_n against_o he_o if_o the_o queen_n highness_n will_v grant_v thereunto_o i_o with_o master_n peter_n martyr_n and_o other_o four_o or_o five_o which_o i_o shall_v choose_v will_v by_o god_n grace_n take_v upon_o we_o to_o defend_v not_o only_o the_o common_a prayer_n of_o the_o church_n the_o ministration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o 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will_v not_o give_v any_o such_o advice_n neither_o will_v we_o have_v the_o church_n forsake_v as_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v in_o swevia_n where_o in_o many_o church_n there_o remain_v either_o no_o minister_n or_o a_o wolf_n which_o bring_v in_o again_o impious_a doctrine_n and_o false_a worship_n that_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v that_o we_o wilful_o dissent_v not_o from_o the_o papist_n our_o adversary_n we_o contend_v about_o great_a matter_n in_o the_o which_o the_o evidence_n of_o truth_n do_v convince_v the_o more_o sound_n even_o among_o the_o adversary_n that_o we_o judge_v to_o be_v more_o profitable_a then_o to_o wrangle_v about_o a_o surplice_n or_o the_o like_a matter_n where_o wise_a man_n will_v exclaim_v against_o we_o that_o we_o withstand_v and_o disobey_v authority_n and_o nourish_v dissension_n with_o a_o foolish_a frowardness_n council_n melanth_n part_n 2._o fol._n 90._o 91._o again_o we_o persuade_v not_o that_o by_o the_o use_n of_o these_o ceremony_n as_o the_o surplice_n the_o church_n shall_v be_v trouble_v neither_o be_v we_o which_o thus_o persuade_v in_o this_o case_n to_o conformity_n in_o less_o grief_n and_o peril_n than_o they_o who_o stand_v against_o it_o but_o where_o new_a burden_n be_v impose_v we_o think_v fit_a that_o it_o be_v judge_v whether_o church_n be_v to_o be_v leave_v to_o wolf_n or_o solitude_n and_o utter_a overthrow_n of_o they_o to_o be_v admit_v or_o else_o whether_o servitude_n of_o use_v these_o prescribe_a ceremony_n be_v to_o be_v endure_v for_o neither_o will_v we_o have_v any_o impious_a ceremony_n to_o be_v receive_v neither_o the_o church_n to_o be_v forsake_v without_o most_o weighty_a reason_n as_o it_o be_v write_v not_o forsake_v the_o fellowship_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n fol._n 92._o again_o melancthon_n sure_o i_o can_v have_v wish_v in_o these_o great_a occasion_n that_o these_o church_n have_v by_o no_o alteration_n or_o imposition_n of_o these_o ceremony_n such_o as_o surplice_n etc._n etc._n be_v trouble_v but_o i_o cofesse_v i_o persuade_v the_o franck._n church_n and_o other_o that_o they_o will_v not_o forsake_v the_o church_n for_o such_o servitude_n which_o without_o impiety_n may_v be_v sustain_v miricus_n out_o cry_v that_o rather_o desolation_n shall_v be_v make_v in_o the_o church_n and_o that_o prince_n be_v to_o be_v fright_v with_o the_o terror_n of_o insurrection_n for_o my_o part_n i_o will_v be_v author_n of_o no_o such_o sour_a advice_n and_o for_o our_o part_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o we_o endure_v far_o more_o heavy_a and_o hard_a burden_n in_o our_o place_n then_o be_v a_o linen_n garment_n etc._n etc._n fol._n 106._o again_o melancthon_n i_o persuade_v that_o desolation_n shall_v not_o be_v make_v in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o refuse_v of_o a_o linen_n garment_n or_o matter_n of_o the_o like_a nature_n ibid._n fol._n 108._o bucer_n i_o be_o persuade_v that_o godly_a man_n may_v use_v these_o garment_n godly_a in_o script_n anglican_n censur_fw-fr 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neither_o do_v i_o see_v any_o scripture_n whereby_o i_o may_v defend_v this_o condemnation_n of_o the_o good_a creature_n of_o god_n ibid._n in_o respon_n ad_fw-la litter_n as_o hooperi_n de_fw-fr re_fw-mi vestiarian_n fol._n 707._o to_o make_v it_o impium_fw-la pierce_v a_o evil_a thing_n in_o nature_n for_o a_o man_n to_o use_v these_o garment_n in_o god_n service_n in_o any_o respect_n i_o see_v no_o scripture_n to_o permit_v or_o affirm_v so_o much_o ibid._n fol._n 709._o §_o again_o i_o very_o as_o i_o have_v confess_v unto_o you_o and_o declare_v to_o our_o countryman_n have_v rather_o that_o no_o kind_n of_o vesture_n which_o the_o papist_n use_v be_v retain_v among_o we_o for_o the_o more_o full_a detestation_n of_o the_o antichristian_a priesthood_n for_o plain_a advouch_v of_o christian_a liberty_n for_o the_o avoid_n of_o dangerous_a contention_n among_o the_o brethren_n yet_o i_o can_v be_v bring_v by_o any_o scripture_n as_o far_o as_o to_o see_v hitherto_o to_o deny_v 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herein_o ibid._n fol._n 1085._o again_o first_o i_o exhort_v that_o you_o withdraw_v not_o yourself_o from_o your_o call_n to_o the_o bishopric_n which_o be_v offer_v you_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o wonderful_a penury_n of_o able_a minister_n whence_o this_o mischieve_n will_v come_v that_o if_o you_o that_o be_v the_o pillar_n of_o the_o church_n pull_v back_o and_o refuse_v to_o execute_v the_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n both_o the_o church_n will_v be_v destitute_a of_o faithful_a pastor_n and_o you_o shall_v give_v tomb_n to_o wolf_n and_o antichrist_n after_o concern_v the_o square_a cap_n and_o external_a apparel_n of_o bishop_n i_o suppose_v that_o it_o ought_v not_o much_o to_o be_v dispute_v of_o see_v it_o be_v free_a from_o superstition_n and_o may_v have_v a_o civil_a reason_n especial_o in_o this_o kingdom_n of_o england_n touch_v the_o holy_a garment_n as_o they_o call_v they_o i_o wonder_v that_o they_o be_v so_o strict_o retain_v for_o i_o wish_v that_o all_o thing_n in_o god_n worship_n may_v be_v perform_v with_o great_a simplicity_n howbeit_o when_o i_o think_v with_o myself_o that_o if_o reconcilement_n in_o point_n of_o doctrine_n may_v be_v make_v between_o the_o saxon_a church_n and_o we_o there_o will_v be_v no_o separation_n for_o such_o garment_n as_o these_o for_o albeit_o we_o like_v they_o not_o a_o whit_n yet_o we_o will_v bear_v with_o their_o use_n among_o they_o and_o gratulate_v ourselves_o that_o we_o have_v abolish_v they_o wherefore_o you_o may_v lawful_o use_v these_o garment_n either_o in_o preach_v or_o in_o administer_a the_o lord_n supper_n yet_o so_o as_o you_o proceed_v to_o speak_v and_o teach_v against_o the_o inconvenience_n in_o the_o use_n of_o they_o idem_fw-la ibid._n fol._n 1127._o amico_fw-la in_o angliam_fw-la caluin_n of_o bishop_n hooper_n as_o i_o commend_v his_o constancy_n in_o refuse_v unction_n and_o anneal_n so_o i_o have_v rather_o that_o he_o have_v not_o so_o exceed_o contend_v de_fw-la pileo_fw-la &_o veste_fw-la linea_fw-la about_o the_o square_a cap_n and_o surplice_n epist_n 120._o fol._n 217._o again_o to_o melancth_v to_o that_o you_o say_v the_o magdeburg_n minister_n do_v move_v brawl_n about_o a_o linen_n garment_n only_o i_o see_v not_o whereto_o such_o brawl_n of_o they_o do_v appertain_v or_o tend_v a_o little_a before_o it_o may_v be_v some_o will_v urge_v some_o thing_n &_o as_o in_o contention_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v will_v odious_o ventilate_v some_o ceremony_n wherein_o there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o evil_a as_o they_o pretend_v epist._n 17._o fol._n 213._o also_o although_o at_o first_o caluin_n be_v demand_v his_o judgement_n de_fw-fr rebus_fw-la adiaphoris_fw-la of_o thing_n indifferent_a in_o the_o saxon_a church_n such_o as_o surplice_n etc._n etc._n do_v free_o manifest_v his_o judgement_n and_o admonish_v melancthon_n who_o some_o accuse_v as_o to_o soft_a and_o too_o remiss_a for_o he_o persuade_v to_o conformity_n rather_o than_o to_o suffer_v 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