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A05212 A disputation of the Church wherein the old religion is maintained. V.M.C.F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; F. E., fl. 1629. 1629 (1629) STC 15348; ESTC S100251 235,937 466

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ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la cum_fw-la secum_fw-la paulus_n disceptaret_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n l_o 2_o con_v donat._n c._n 1._o apostolum_n petrum_fw-la in_fw-la quo_fw-la primatus_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la tam_fw-la excellenti_fw-la gratia_fw-la praeeminet_fw-la etc._n etc._n ibid._n hortato_n esse_fw-la ut_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la matricem_n &_o radicem_fw-la agnoscerent_fw-la &_o tenerent_fw-la s._n cyp._n l._n 4._o ep._n 8._o vide_fw-la eundem_fw-la l._n 1._o ep_v 3._o &_o l._n 4._o ep_n 9_o rest_n praeponatur_fw-la uni_fw-la tamen_fw-la datum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la caeteris_fw-la praeemineret_fw-la s._n leo._n ep_v 84._o s._n leo_n serm_n 3._o de_fw-fr annivers_n ass_n die_v qui_fw-la praeponatur_fw-la which_o do_v they_o be_v not_o in_o all_z respect_n equal_a his_o word_n be_v among_o the_o most_o bless_a apostle_n in_o similitude_n of_o honour_n be_v a_o certain_a distinction_n of_o power_n and_o whereas_o the_o election_n of_o all_o be_v equal_a to_o one_o be_v grant_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v eminent_a above_o
the_o sixth_o age_n we_o have_v the_o testimony_n of_o several_a 22._o several_a council_n agath_fw-mi cap_n 470_o gerun_v den_n cap._n 1_o aurelian_a ●_o 28._o turonens_fw-la 2_o cap_n 3._o &_o 4._o constantin_n act_n 1._o citat_fw-la garret_n co._n gualt_n s._n greg._n magn._n 4._o dial._n c._n 58_o &_o hom._n 37._o in_o euam_fw-la s._n aug._n l._n 1●_n de_fw-fr civit._n c_o 22._o counsel_n celebrate_v in_o many_o nation_n wherein_o there_o be_v such_o express_a mention_n of_o the_o mass_n as_o no_o tergiversation_n can_v suffice_v but_o omit_v that_o as_o also_o the_o testimony_n of_o remigius_n cassiodorus_n fulgentius_n and_o other_o of_o that_o time_n i_o content_v myself_o with_o the_o place_n before_o cite_v out_o of_o s._n gregory_n because_o he_o be_v in_o communion_n with_o all_o the_o world_n christ_n live_v himself_o immortal_o be_v again_o sacrifice_v for_o we_o in_o this_o mystery_n of_o the_o holy_a oblation_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o sift_n age_n live_v s._n 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god_n by_o his_o most_o eminent_a priest_n of_o all_o and_o a_o little_a after_o upon_o a_o place_n of_o esaie_n they_o shall_v drink_v wine_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n ibid._n he_o do_v prophecy_n to_o the_o gentile_n say_v he_o the_o joy_n of_o wine_n signify_v therein_o somewhat_o obscure_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o christ_n institute_v constant_n idem_fw-la orat_fw-la de_fw-fr l●●d_n constant_n which_o at_o this_o day_n very_o be_v open_o celebrate_v in_o all_o nation_n the_o same_o man_n in_o his_o oration_n in_o the_o commendation_n of_o constantine_n tell_v of_o church_n altar_n 3._o vide_fw-la cyp._n l._n 2._o ep._n 3._o and_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o three_o age_n saint_n cyprian_n do_v live_v who_o say_v 9_o s._n cypr._n lib_n 1._o ep_v 9_o all_o that_o be_v honour_v with_o divine_a priesthood_n and_o place_v in_o clericall_a ministry_n ought_v not_o to_o serve_v but_o the_o altar_n and_o sacrifice_n and_o to_o 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testament_n which_o the_o church_n receive_v from_z the_o apostle_n do_v offer_v to_o god_n in_o all_o the_o world_n tryphone_n s._n justin_n dial._n cum_fw-la tryphone_n the_o other_o even_o than_o he_o malichias_n foretell_v of_o our_o sacrifice_n of_o gentile_n which_o be_v offer_v in_o every_o place_n that_o be_v of_o the_o bread_n of_o the_o eucharist_n and_o the_o cup_n likewise_o of_o the_o eucharist_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n ibid._n god_n prevent_v do_v witness_v all_o those_o to_o be_v grateful_a unto_o he_o who_o offer_v through_o his_o name_n the_o sacrifice_n which_o jesus_n christ_n deliver_v to_o be_v do_v that_o be_v in_o the_o eucharist_n of_o bread_n and_o the_o chalice_n which_o be_v do_v by_o christian_n in_o every_o place_n 76._o and_o here_o i_o name_v again_o the_o liturgy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n of_o alexandria_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o of_o aethiopia_n wherein_o be_v evident_a acknowledgement_n of_o this_o unbloody_a sacrifice_n in_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n whereof_o i_o speak_v in_o so_o much_o that_o all_o these_o liturgy_n and_o general_o the_o liturgy_n of_o all_o know_a christian_a church_n that_o ever_o yet_o be_v of_o any_o note_n in_o the_o world_n consent_n and_o agree_v herein_o if_o you_o deny_v these_o be_v ancient_a i_o bring_v against_o you_o all_o these_o church_n who_o profess_v and_o believe_v to_o have_v receive_v they_o from_o hand_n to_o hand_n even_o from_o the_o apostle_n thus_o other_o book_n have_v be_v deliver_v unto_o we_o from_o antiquity_n and_o this_o tradition_n must_v have_v equal_a force_n in_o the_o deliver_v of_o these_o book_n i_o add_v further_o that_o all_o church_n can_v err_v in_o tradition_n of_o book_n otherwise_o you_o can_v neither_o be_v certain_a of_o any_o work_n of_o any_o father_n as_o of_o s._n augustine_n s._n jerom_n etc._n etc._n nor_o of_o any_o part_n of_o the_o bible_n since_o therefore_o all_o know_a church_n agree_v in_o the_o receipt_n of_o the_o liturgy_n from_o the_o 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essen_v rel_n prot_n c._n 6._o which_o be_v the_o ground_n and_o foundation_n of_o protestancie_n and_o hold_v the_o real_a 244._o real_a confess_v bohem._n a._n 13._o and_o caluin_n say_v of_o their_o confession_n formulam_fw-la confessionis_fw-la amplecti_fw-la quae_fw-la sine_fw-la discrimine_fw-la in_fw-la unum_fw-la fasciculum_fw-la damnationis_fw-la omnes_fw-la in_o voluit_fw-la qui_fw-la pracisè_fw-la non_fw-la fat●ntur_fw-la panem_fw-la esse_fw-la prasentissimè_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la hic_fw-la recitamus_fw-la eorum_fw-la verba_fw-la and_o fas_fw-la sit_fw-la christiano_n homini_fw-la videritis_fw-la nos_fw-la certè_fw-la non_fw-la putamus_fw-la epist_n 244._o presence_n in_o our_o sense_n wherefore_o they_o be_v not_o you_o second_o they_o hold_v sundry_a damnable_a opinion_n which_o you_o dare_v not_o approve_v as_o that_o he_o which_o be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n 7._o illyric_n in_o catal._n test_n de_fw-fr wald_n ex_fw-la syl._n &_o rain_n itenque_n anto._n &_o guid._n de_fw-fr wal._n dogm_n aeneas_n sylu._n hist_o bohem._n luxemb_n in_o paup_n de_fw-fr ludg._n 1._o tim._n 4._o 1._o cor._n 7._o fall_v out_o of_o all_o dignity_n thereby_o whether_o it_o be_v ecclesiastical_a or_o civil_a and_o therefore_o be_v not_o to_o be_v obey_v that_o lie_v man_n and_o woman_n may_v eonsecrate_v and_o preach_v that_o every_o good_a layman_n be_v a_o priest_n that_o the_o apostle_n be_v lay_v man_n that_o clergy_n man_n shall_v have_v no_o possession_n they_o condemn_v marriage_n a_o manifest_a heresy_n judgement_n to_o blood_n and_o oath_n three_o your_o own_o man_n refuse_v their_o communion_n as_o you_o know_v by_o 273._o by_o cam._n de_fw-fr eccl._n in_o bohem._n etc._n etc._n p._n 273._o camerarius_fw-la 124._o camerarius_fw-la morg._n tract_n de_fw-fr eccl._n p._n 79._o and_o 124._o morgernstern_n 278._o morgernstern_n calu._n ep._n 278._o caluin_n 152._o caluin_n melanc_fw-fr in_o consilijs_fw-la par_fw-fr 2._o pag._n 152._o melancthon_n cit_fw-la melancthon_n schlus_n catal._n tom_n 3._o p._n 188._o and_o see_v jewel_n pantaleon_n and_o osiander_n of_o the_o albigense_n cite_v prot_n apol._n sec._n cit_fw-la schlusselburg_n and_o other_o and_o charge_v they_o with_o maintain_v obstinate_o gross_a error_n and_o heresy_n four_o they_o have_v no_o hierarchy_n have_v among_o they_o no_o bishop_n suprà_fw-la fox_n act_n mon_fw-fr p._n 628._o sim._n voyon_n cata._n p._n 132_o osiand_n epitome_n and_o their_o own_o tenet_n suprà_fw-la nor_o priest_n but_o all_o be_v lie_v people_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n five_o waldo_n a_o merchant_n of_o lion_n and_o a_o unlern_v lay_v man_n who_o live_v a_o 1170._o be_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a of_o that_o sect_n so_o that_o they_o fail_v in_o the_o point_n of_o antiquity_n and_o continual_a succession_n ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n whereunto_o you_o be_v to_o answer_v and_o will_v never_o do_v till_o you_o put_v down_o some_o in_o every_o age_n and_o bring_v unquestionable_a evidence_n for_o they_o which_o will_v never_o be_v 6._o if_o notwithstanding_o the_o contrary_a judgement_n of_o your_o man_n you_o will_v join_v to_o their_o church_n and_o maintain_v the_o succession_n of_o your_o church_n by_o they_o 6._o heb._n 5._o v._o 4._o rom._n 10._o v._n 15._o confess_v bohem._n a._n 13._o caluinianos_n waldensium_fw-la confessionem_fw-la d●pravasse_fw-la ostendit_fw-la conrade_n schlussel_n theol._n calu._n li._n 2._o art_n 6._o who_o can_v not_o ordain_v you_o priest_n and_o bishop_n have_v themselves_o none_o nor_o teach_v be_v themselves_o unsent_a you_o must_v prove_v cleerele_n first_o that_o they_o have_v lawful_a vocation_n and_o ordination_n second_o that_o they_o hold_v not_o the_o foresaid_a error_n and_o heresy_n or_o you_o must_v admit_v that_o you_o hold_v they_o also_o three_o that_o they_o do_v agree_v with_o you_o in_o all_o other_o point_n particular_o descend_v to_o each_o as_o in_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n the_o bohemian_a confession_n do_v say_v they_o do_v not_o but_o that_o they_o understand_v the_o word_n proper_o as_o we_o do_v 40._o luth._o supra_fw-la cit_fw-la r._n chalc._o sup_v cit_fw-la haud_fw-la scio_fw-la a_o usquam_fw-la diu_fw-la publicè_fw-la svam_fw-la fidem_fw-la sint_fw-la prosessi_fw-it etc._n etc._n praeterquam_fw-la in_o bohemia_n &_o in_o quadam_fw-la valle_o in_fw-la radicibus_fw-la alpium_fw-la illyr_n de_fw-fr waldens_n suprà_fw-la epiphan_n haeres_fw-la 61._o august_n haeresi_fw-la 40._o that_o they_o hold_v justification_n by_o faith_n as_o you_o luther_n say_v they_o know_v it_o not_o yet_o this_o be_v the_o soul_n and_o foundation_n of_o protestancie_n in_o the_o judgement_n and_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o your_o own_o man_n and_o so_o you_o must_v on_o to_o the_o rest_n where_o you_o will_v find_v many_o of_o your_o own_o who_o will_v contradict_v you_o to_o your_o face_n four_o you_o must_v bring_v proof_n that_o 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4.12_o act._n 20_o 2d_o ephes_n 4.11.13_o eph._n 4.12_o since_o god_n church_n be_v govern_v by_o bishope_n there_o be_v
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that_o have_v determine_v in_o his_o hart_n be_v settle_v not_o have_v necessity_n but_o have_v power_n of_o his_o own_o will_n and_o have_v judge_v this_o in_o his_o hart_n to_o keep_v his_o virgin_n do_v well_o therefore_o he_o that_o join_v his_o virgin_n in_o matrimony_n do_v well_o and_o he_o that_o join_v she_o not_o do_v better_a let_v i_o add_v one_o more_o out_o of_o genesis_n 2d_o gen._n 4_o 7._o vide_fw-la s._n aug._n l._n 15._o the_o civet_n c_o 7._o ps_n 118._o v._n 112._o s._n jerom_n ●_o 8._o sept._n ibid._n 1._o cor._n 9_o 2d_o the_o lust_n thereof_o shall_v be_v under_o thou_o and_o thou_o shall_v have_v dominion_n over_o it_o we_o believe_v that_o good_a work_n may_v be_v do_v in_o contemplation_n of_o a_o reward_n or_o crown_v you_o say_v no._n luth._o in_o fest_n oh_o ss_z calu._n in_o antid_v sess_v 6._o c._n 16._o david_n i_o have_v incline_v my_o hart_n to_o do_v thy_o iustification_n forever_o for_o reward_n and_o the_o the_o apostle_n every_o one_o that_o 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matth._n 16._o thou_o be_v peter_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o person_n of_o peter_n zanchius_n another_o great_a protestant_n the_o father_n exposition_n upon_o this_o rock_n that_o be_v upon_o peter_n be_v not_o admit_v and_o luther_n the_o great_a apostle_n of_o protestancie_n here_o all_o 490._o lut._n in_o 2._o pet._n c._n 5._o fol_z 490._o either_o father_n or_o doctor_n as_o many_o as_o hitherto_o have_v interpret_v scripture_n have_v stamble_v as_o when_o that_o of_o matth._n 16._o thou_o be_v peter_n etc._n etc._n they_o interpret_v of_o the_o pope_n we_o believe_v that_o one_o of_o the_o apostle_n peculiar_o be_v make_v pastor_n of_o the_o church_n you_o say_v no._n luth._o in_o assert_v art_n 25._o calu._n 4._o inst_z c._n 6._o the_o scripture_n peter_n feed_v my_o sheep_n 21.18_o io._n 21.18_o we_o believe_v that_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n have_v power_n to_o forgive_v and_o to_o retain_v sin_n you_o say_v no._n calu._n 3_o inst_z c._n 3._o &_o 4._o c._n 19_o 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