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l._n 〈◊〉_d 4_o po_n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr ijs_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vino_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &c_n &c_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illo_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ab_fw-la 〈◊〉_d epist_n 3._o ad_fw-la â—â—per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 15._o â—â—â—_o
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one_o with_o a_o other_o in_o give_v testimony_n to_o the_o propose_a article_n the_o jesuiâ—e_n that_o pretend_v the_o ancient_a church_n have_v not_o give_v we_o â—â—â—_o complete_a proof_n from_o the_o same_o and_o those_o which_o he_o â—â—th_v produce_v be_v but_o particular_a man_n with_o one_o provincial_a council_n which_o they_o themselves_o general_o approve_v â—oâ—_n and_o some_o of_o his_o private_a testimony_n say_v little_a to_o the_o purpose_n so_o all_o that_o our_o jesuite_n can_v expect_v be_v this_o that_o in_o some_o private_a judgement_n these_o book_n may_v be_v judge_v canonical_a but_o never_o so_o deliver_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n which_o defence_n the_o book_n pastâ—r_n have_v from_o 〈◊〉_d confession_n and_o the_o four_o of_o esdras_n by_o the_o confession_n of_o your_o own_o sixtuâ—_n senensis_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o there_o be_v reason_n sufficient_a that_o our_o jesuite_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d doâ—â—â—_n his_o 〈◊〉_d whichupon_o so_o vain_a a_o confidence_n heâ—_n have_v erect_v and_o acknowledge_v their_o change_n although_o they_o have_v doâ—â—_n it_o upon_o so_o good_a a_o ground_n as_o the_o embrace_n of_o some_o private_a judgement_n three_o or_o four_o hâ—â—dreth_v yâ—â—es_n after_o christ_n leave_v the_o stream_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n &_o â—he_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o same_o thus_o the_o charge_n appâ—â—â—â—th_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d &_o not_o 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o jesuit_n hope_v to_o have_v prove_v it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v leâ—â—_n the_o gâ—â—â—rall_a practice_n of_o the_o â—â—â—cient_a church_n and_o have_v imbracâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d private_a 〈◊〉_d not_o for_o love_v of_o their_o person_n but_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d themselves_o they_o find_v some_o shelter_n 〈◊〉_d their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sâ—â—ing_v he_o can_v declare_v they_o scripture_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o be_v sure_a if_o we_o can_v manifest_v that_o 〈◊〉_d book_n hold_v now_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o church_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o contrary_a sentence_n by_o the_o â—â—cient_a church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o his_o skill_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d say_v the_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d thâ—â—_n euâ—â—_n the_o church_n of_o god_n do_v 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o before_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o for_o canonical_a by_o 〈◊〉_d authority_n 2d_o authority_n reply_v pag_n 2d_o the_o jesuit_n must_v tell_v we_o what_o he_o meâ—â—â—th_v by_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o by_o public_a authority_n for_o if_o he_o understand_v a_o general_a council_n it_o be_v idle_a for_o they_o never_o come_v to_o be_v so_o â—â—_o yâ—_z canus_n loc_fw-la theol._n l._n â—_o c._n â—â—_o cyprianus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o expositione_n symboli_fw-la â—osdem_fw-la sex_n libros_fw-la patrum_fw-la anctoritate_fw-la a_o quibus_fw-la se_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la idâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d ciâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—ordium_n cuâ—â—que_fw-la diligeâ—ter_fw-la de_fw-fr omnibus_fw-la exploraverat_fw-la omni_fw-la investigatione_n comperit_fw-la hos_fw-la libâ—â—â—_n esse_fw-la a_o veteris_fw-la instrumenti_fw-la be_o in_fw-la psalmum_fw-la â—â—â—_o sed_fw-la &_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d caâ—_n â—â—_o audacious_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n as_o to_o claim_v the_o privilege_n to_o â—â—eepe_v into_o the_o canon_n beside_o he_o be_v as_o foâ—d_v in_o the_o consequent_a that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n herein_o from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d church_n unless_o we_o can_v show_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentenâ—â—_n contrary_a to_o their_o trent_n declaration_n in_o a_o general_a council_n for_o if_o this_o be_v good_a reason_n the_o council_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o &_o 4._o book_n of_o esdras_n pastor_n their_o decretal_a epistle_n gregory_n siâ—tus_n yea_o what_o not_o &_o plead_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n they_o never_o be_v in_o your_o judgement_n i_o think_v condemn_v by_o the_o public_a authority_n of_o any_o general_a council_n in_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_n that_o do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentence_n conâ—â—ry_o thereunto_o but_o if_o the_o church_n may_v be_v say_v to_o give_v â—â—â—_o judgement_n against_o the_o book_n of_o judith_n toby_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d by_o keep_v they_o out_o of_o the_o canoâ—_n as_o no_o doubt_n â—â—_o may_v practise_v be_v the_o best_a declareâ—_n of_o man_n judgement_n it_o shall_v be_v manifest_v sufficient_o that_o they_o have_v long_a 〈◊〉_d receive_v their_o doom_n for_o first_o they_o be_v always_o difâ—â—â—â—med_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o canon_n &_o rule_n of_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o jesuit_n have_v not_o produce_v one_o private_a 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v plain_a and_o convince_a for_o almost_o â—â—â—_o year_n 〈◊〉_d christ_n second_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d catalogue_n
the_o author_n then_o of_o this_o penitential_a write_v to_o heâ—ibaldus_n be_v either_o some_o other_o rabanus_n ibid._n rabanus_n reply_v ibid._n here_o we_o find_v the_o jesuite_n ignorant_a of_o that_o author_n upon_o who_o writing_n he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o be_v so_o acute_a a_o critic_n for_o if_o he_o have_v read_v the_o author_n himself_o he_o will_v have_v think_v of_o those_o word_n which_o point_n out_o who_o he_o be_v ego_fw-la dum_fw-la in_o episcopate_n moguntiensis_n indignus_fw-la constitutus_fw-la sum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d sum_fw-la cap._n 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n but_o how_o a_o jesuite_n of_o his_o undertake_n can_v be_v ignorant_a of_o their_o own_o gratian_n his_o cite_n of_o this_o book_n under_o the_o name_n of_o rabanus_n the_o archbishop_n archiepiscopus_fw-la archbishop_n gratian._n 〈◊〉_d 50._o cap_n the_o his_o vero_fw-la rabanus_n archiepiscopus_fw-la we_o can_v tell_v without_o surmise_n second_o he_o say_v that_o his_o suppose_a rabanus_n fall_v with_o heribaldus_n into_o the_o error_n call_v by_o paschasius_fw-la and_o algerus_n stercoranistarum_n who_o hold_v that_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v hypostatical_o unite_v unto_o the_o bread_n and_o assume_v it_o into_o one_o person_n with_o himself_o be_v therefore_o subject_a to_o digestion_n and_o avoidance_n 43_o avoidance_n reply_v pag._n 43_o callida_fw-la mendacia_fw-la he_o feign_v in_o earnest_n and_o there_o be_v but_o need_n for_o paschasius_fw-la make_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o stercoranistae_n second_o rabanus_n in_o his_o penitential_a hold_v the_o contrary_a mitti_fw-la contrary_a cap._n 33._o ista_fw-la sententia_fw-la contraria_fw-la est_fw-la sententijs_fw-la clementis_fw-la papae_fw-la &_o aliorum_fw-la multorum_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la qui_fw-la dicunt_fw-la corpus_fw-la domini_fw-la non_fw-la cum_fw-la caeâ—â—ris_fw-la communibus_fw-la cibis_fw-la per_fw-la aquatiâ—ulos_fw-la in_o seâ—â—ssum_fw-la mitti_fw-la three_o it_o be_v a_o idle_a figment_n that_o either_o this_o rabanus_n 31._o rabanus_n rabanus_n l._n 1._o de_fw-la instit_fw-la clericorum_fw-la cap._n 31._o or_o heribaldus_n or_o those_o you_o term_n stercoranistae_n do_v hold_v that_o christ_n be_v hypostatical_o unite_v to_o the_o bread_n the_o jesuite_n have_v only_o dream_v here_o he_o give_v we_o not_o a_o author_n but_o all_o that_o he_o have_v yet_o say_v will_v not_o serve_v the_o turn_n and_o therefore_o he_o will_v have_v we_o to_o believe_v he_o if_o no_o such_o other_o rabanus_n there_o be_v at_o least_o that_o penitecial_a together_o with_o the_o libel_n write_v to_o abbot_n egilo_n be_v make_v by_o some_o err_a spirit_n or_o other_o and_o to_o get_v the_o more_o credit_n father_v upon_o rabanus_n maurus_n 43_o maurus_n reply_v pag._n 43_o this_o we_o must_v believe_v upon_o the_o jesuite_n testae_fw-la or_o reject_v it_o for_o he_o bring_v we_o nothing_o to_o manifest_v the_o same_o and_o further_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o rabanus_n be_v far_o enough_o from_o maintain_v any_o such_o error_n ibid._n error_n reply_v ibid._n indeed_o as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v invent_v a_o error_n and_o father_v the_o same_o upon_o the_o author_n of_o the_o penitential_a we_o easy_o confess_v for_o rabanus_n be_v ever_o far_o enough_o from_o maintain_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v subject_a to_o digestion_n and_o avoidance_n but_o that_o the_o sacrament_n thereof_o be_v digest_v and_o turn_v into_o our_o substance_n as_o other_o meat_n be_v he_o teach_v indeed_o and_o be_v condemn_v for_o the_o same_o by_o guliâ—lmus_n malmesburiensâ—s_v â—_o malmesburiensâ—s_v see_v guil._n malme_n before_o cite_v at_o the_o letter_n â—_o and_o thomas_n waldensis_n 〈◊〉_d waldensis_n tho._n wald._a tom_n 1._o doctrinal_a prologue_n ad_fw-la martinum_fw-la vitem_fw-la tom_n â—_o 〈◊〉_d sacramentis_fw-la cap_n 19_o &_o 〈◊〉_d neither_o do_v he_o with_o any_o truth_n prosecute_v his_o plea_n when_o that_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o bertram_z and_o that_o suppose_a rabanus_n be_v as_o far_o different_a in_o their_o opinion_n concern_v the_o presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o bertram_n and_o paschasius_fw-la himself_o for_o the_o author_n of_o that_o penitential_a err_a with_o heribaldus_n hold_v that_o christ_n be_v so_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o there_o be_v no_o figure_n at_o all_o whereas_o bertram_n make_v it_o but_o a_o sole_a figure_n without_o any_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n his_o body_n 44_o reply_v pag._n 44_o what_o do_v the_o jesuite_n bring_v here_o but_o heap_n of_o untruth_n some_o of_o which_o cross_n and_o contradict_v himself_o for_o the_o author_n of_o the_o penitential_a and_o the_o book_n write_v to_o egile_v the_o abbot_n of_o fulda_n under_o who_o rabanus_n have_v his_o education_n hold_v the_o flat_a contrary_n to_o paschasius_fw-la and_o maintain_v the_o very_a same_o thing_n that_o bertrâ—â—_n do_v to_o wit_n that_o the_o consecrate_a host_n be_v not_o the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n marie_n and_o in_o which_o our_o lord_n suffer_v himself_o on_o the_o cross_n and_o rise_v again_o from_o the_o grave_n this_o be_v teach_v the_o jesuite_n before_o by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n neither_o be_v it_o long_o since_o that_o he_o upon_o that_o evidence_n confess_v 42_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 42_o that_o this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o paschasius_fw-la be_v resist_v as_o erroneous_a by_o rabanus_n beside_o where_o will_v you_o find_v that_o bertram_n make_v it_o as_o you_o report_v a_o sole_a figure_n that_o he_o make_v it_o a_o figure_n will_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o that_o he_o say_v it_o a_o sole_a figure_n you_o give_v we_o no_o ground_n to_o believe_v and_o now_o take_v leave_n with_o rabanus_n who_o the_o jesuite_n in_o the_o point_n of_o the_o sacrament_n will_v make_v a_o romanist_n against_o his_o will_n he_o come_v to_o bertram_n and_o demand_v why_o may_v not_o claudius_n sanctesius_n and_o other_o more_o be_v think_v to_o guess_v aright_o when_o they_o think_v that_o bertram_n be_v true_o a_o roman_a catholic_a free_a from_o that_o error_n contain_v in_o the_o book_n supposed_o dedicate_v unto_o the_o emperor_n charles_n see_v that_o in_o proof_n thereof_o there_o be_v not_o want_v many_o presumption_n strong_a far_o than_o those_o be_v which_o be_v bring_v in_o by_o our_o answerer_n to_o the_o contrary_n 44_o reply_v pag._n 44_o what_o your_o presumption_n will_v prove_v shall_v be_v examine_v but_o the_o answerer_n have_v this_o advantage_n that_o his_o evidence_n have_v already_o convince_v the_o divine_n of_o douai_n to_o acknowledge_v this_o book_n mention_v to_o be_v bertram_n indeed_o though_o by_o shift_a distinction_n they_o labour_v as_o you_o term_v it_o to_o free_v he_o from_o error_n 5._o error_n indexâ—â—purg_n belg._n pag._n 5._o and_o first_o of_o all_o he_o begin_v that_o neither_o paschasius_fw-la radbertus_n who_o defend_v our_o catholic_a doctrine_n at_o that_o time_n nor_o yet_o any_o other_o writer_n of_o those_o day_n make_v any_o mention_n either_o of_o bertram_n or_o of_o any_o such_o erroneous_a opinion_n as_o be_v attribute_v unto_o he_o in_o 〈◊〉_d book_n 44_o book_n reply_v pag._n 44_o here_o be_v a_o good_a beginning_n for_o to_o justify_v sanctesius_n his_o guess_n he_o direct_o contradict_v that_o which_o he_o lay_v down_o for_o a_o certain_a ground_n for_o first_o he_o say_v that_o about_o the_o time_n of_o charles_n the_o great_a and_z charles_n the_o bald_a this_o book_n come_v forth_o that_o be_v assign_v to_o bertram_n and_o whereunto_o paschasius_fw-la do_v answer_v he_o think_v it_o indeed_o to_o be_v credible_a that_o the_o book_n come_v then_o abroad_o without_o any_o name_n and_o that_o afterward_o to_o gain_v the_o more_o credit_n bertram_n name_n be_v add_v respondent_fw-la add_v sanctei_n repet_n 2._o cap._n 14._o cùm_fw-la paschasius_fw-la corbeiensis_fw-la qui_fw-la etiam_fw-la illo_fw-la seculo_fw-la vixit_fw-la suum_fw-la scriptum_fw-la opponat_fw-la corruptelis_fw-la libri_fw-la qui_fw-la bertramâ—_n datur_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la collatione_fw-la notum_fw-la fiet_fw-la proculdâ—biò_fw-la bertrami_n vomini_fw-la non_fw-la pepercisset_fw-la ne_fw-la quis_fw-la tanti_fw-la viri_fw-la authoritate_fw-la falleretur_fw-la itaque_fw-la 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la ortam_fw-la tum_fw-la disputationem_fw-la de_fw-la transubstantiatione_fw-la ac_fw-la corperis_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n veritate_fw-la &_o verbis_fw-la institutionis_fw-la cirea_fw-la secundum_fw-la caroli_n magni_fw-la &_o caroli_n calvi_n quemadmodum_fw-la cerâ—itur_fw-la ex_fw-la rabano_n mauro_n &_o raschasio_fw-la corbiensi_fw-la &_o tum_fw-la exijsse_fw-la librum_fw-la quem_fw-la nune_n bertramo_n assignant_fw-la 〈◊〉_d paschasius_fw-la respondent_fw-la so_o that_o there_o be_v no_o question_n but_o the_o book_n be_v at_o that_o time_n and_o the_o doctrine_n therein_o oppose_v by_o paschasius_fw-la that_o write_v against_o the_o same_o but_o whether_o any_o mention_n be_v make_v of_o bertram_n it_o matter_n not_o for_o will_v you_o be_v so_o wise_a as_o to_o gather_v from_o thence_o that_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o such_o man_n at_o that_o time_n when_o you_o confess_v his_o person_n though_o you_o