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A62893 The Muggletonians principles prevailing being an answer in full to a scandalous and malicious pamphlet, intituled A true representation of the absurd and mischevious principles of the sect called Muggletonians : herein the aforesaid principles are vindicated, and proved to be infallibly true : and the author of that libel, his scandalous title and subject proved as false to truth, as light is to darkness, and that he knows no more what the true God is, nor what the right devil is, nor any true principle or foundation of faith, for all his great learning he so much bosts of, then those Jews that put the Lord of life to death, for learned and taught reason is but natural, and so falls short of the glory of God, as will appear in the following discourse / by T.T. Tomkinson, Thomas, 1631-1710? 1695 (1695) Wing T1840; ESTC R18719 47,859 79

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Bishops Then must them Books and Traditional Reports be viewed by the Learned now made Bishops and what Agreed and Aquiest with their Principles was counted Apostolical and what did not agree Revel 2.2 was rejected and counted Heresy or else they Translated them falsly playcing down some things of their Sayings and leaving others out that made against them And when any Man was by these established Bishops Judged or Accused for Heresy tho he lived before their Days then all his Books must either be Currupted or Burn'd for they must be made to speak quite contrary to what they did in several things on purpose to make those Authors the more Contemptible For it was ever so that all that are Non-Commissionated Ministers of God and such as head an anty-Anty-Church are for hideing Truth from the People as the Papists do the Scriptures to the end they may keep up their fleshly Honour so that there is but little known and received in the World at this Day as well as heretofore but the universal common Opinion Therefore it is that your National and Traditional Churches doth so sound forth their own Triumphs raise heaps of Authors of the First Centuries as agreeing with their Catholick Principles Crying Antiquity Church-Visability famous Men are on our Side c. When as the Truth on 't is all is but Clamour and Noise for many of your Authors are meer Forgeries and Lies For Instance 1. There be several Books that have the Name of such Mens Works as were never their Works as Abdyus Bishop of Babilon is said by some of your Catalogue Makers to live in the Days of Christ others say that he knew their great Church-Historian Egisipus that lived near Two Hundred Years after Now the one of these must be a Ly and they make the Substance of this Book to be of curious Talk with Bodilis or Infernal Devils which is a mear Roman Forgery 2. There is also that which is called Saint James the Apostles Leturgie which hath a Prayer in it for all that live in Monastries and yet there was none built of some Hundreds of Years after the Apostles Days 3. And that Egisipus before spoken of hath Five Books under his Name But it is said by some of your Church Writers that Ambrose that roman-church-Roman-Church-Bishop who lived in the Year 380. was not only the Traslator but the Author of them Books which is like enough for he was not chosen Bishop for his Goodness but for his Greatness even as one of the Dukes of Savoy was chosen Pope for his Greatness sake as your Church History doth shew 4. These Corruptions have been very Common and very Antient for Dionisius Bishop of Corinth who lived about the Year of Christ Two Hundred complained sadly of his being abused in this Nature Therefore said he in one of his Books if that Book was his I wrote several Epistles but the Messengers of Satan hath sown them with Tares pulling away some things and puting to other some for whom said he Condemnation is laid up And as there was these Forgeries and Corruptions aforesaid so likewise there is many of your other great Authors which you would make Apostolical and yet they do not agree with you in several things that you quote them for nay some Differences are so great between you that I wonder you do not Condemn them for Hereticks as for Example 1. Turtulyon who lived in the time of the Ten Persecutions being a great Historian and by your Church counted famous did not much contend for Bishops nor much valued Ordination but said That Lay-men were Priests and gave this Reason for it saying That after Faith is Received then Man lives by his Faith and that Faith said he becomes Christ's Vicar and from hence he concluded that Three Believers will make a Church He also denyed Childrens Baptisme and therefore said he Why hastneth this Innocent Age to the Remission of Sins we are much more wary in worldly Things Is it meet we should commit the Sacrament of Baptisme which is a divine Thing unto them we would not commit the Things of this Earth He also condemned Second Marriages and much more Persecution for Consience All these things are quite contrary to you 2. Irinius Bishop of Lyons who it is said knew Ignasius and Policarbus yet he held and tought the Souls Mortality 3 And Justinus who lived in those Days you cannot deny but that he did both hold and teach That God was in the Form of a Man from all Eternity 4. And further There was never a one of all these aforesaid that held a Trinity of Persons in one God-Head No not Oregen himself whom your Church doth so extol altho he turned Apostate and denyed the Faith and Sacrifised to Devils to save his Life but what is he so cry'd up both by Papist and Protestant for is it not for his lofty Stile and philosophical Notions and in that he would make his Divinity to stoop unto his Philosophy For he held with Plato 1. The Souls Infusion and tought that all Souls were made together and sent down from Heaven to be Imbodyed 2. He Tought That after we rise again we shall have all need of Baptisme to purge us clean 3ly He in one place condemned Second Marriages and in another Contradicts it again 4ly He Tought that Devils were Bodilis-Spirits and also that all Devils would be saved at last This sure is it that pleases you at a Haire But as to his Doctrin concerning God that cannot please you so well for the Arians challing him to be for them and therefore they say That Oragen denyed That the Son was to be Adored or Prayed too for he is saith Oregen not the Author but the Procurer of the good Things of God So that we pray not to him but to God for his sake And Augustin your Saint produces this as Oregen's Opinion concerning God And thus much as to your great Apostolical Fathers as you call them who lived in the time of the Ten Persecutions As to those other Antient Popes Bishops Fathers and Counsels that have been set up by the Roman Imperial Power and Authority I shall not treat on them here for he that hath but a Grain of spiritual Sense predominating in him will easily see them no other but the Mother of Harlots or Mistery Babilon that sets upon Tongues Nosions and Languages as hath been unfolded in a Treatise intituled The White Devil uncased which may come to be extant in time This is the Sum of your Church-History so that what Satisfaction can any Man have by all your Authors and Apostolical Fathers as you call them as also your Translators of their Works who were most of them Corrupters each one endeavouring to force the Matter to sute with his own Opinions as Epephanius Rufenus and several others who it is said corrupted several Authors So that all their Books are but troubled Waters to drink being not of that Ephecasy as to