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A05364 A consultation what faith and religion is best to be imbraced. Written in Latin by the R. Father Leonard Lessius, Professour in Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by W.I. Lessius, Leonardus, 1554-1623.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 15517; ESTC S105037 99,482 276

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Author then was it secret therfore cannot be the religiō of Christ which is a wayes apparent manifest And whatsoeuer in this discourse hath byn said and proued concerning Lutheran religion yow must vnderstand to haue byn said and proued also of Caluinisme and Anabaptisme for that the selfe same nouelty and reasons belong to all three but that for perspicuityes sake and not often to repeat with tediousnes all three names we haue only nominated one Therfore do I conclude with the words of S. Hierome Hier. Dial. contra Lucifer in fine who writeth thus That I way set thee downe briefly and playnely any opinion Thou must saith hee remayne in that Church which was founded by the Apostles and continueth vntil this very day And if by chance thou shouldest he are those that be called Christians to be named of some other and net of Iesus Christ to u it of the Marcionites Valentiniās Montanistes c. know thou certainly that that is not the Church of Christ but the Synagogue of Antichrist for that because they were institued afterward they do demonstrate themselnes to be those whome the Apostle foretould c. Nor let them flatter themselues if out of certaine places of Scripture they do seemete affirme that with they say for that the Diuell did also alleagde Scripture for his purpose and the force of Scripture doth not consist in reading but in vnderstanding So S. Hierome Nouelty therfore is a signe of heresy fortould by the Apostle denomination is a signe of nouelty and the vsurping of Scripture is common to the Diuell himselfe and all heresyes The II. Reason Taken from the defect of Succession ANOTHER reason why these religions are not to be allowed of is The want of succession for that they want an orderly and continuall Succession of Ministers in the Church from the Apostles which succession is necessary that any Religion or Church should be deemed Apostolicall for without the same it cannot be continued with the Apostolike So as the Ancient Fathers for the most part teach that they who say they haue the true Church of Christ with them must bring forth the succession of their Bishops and reduce the same vpwards to some one of the Apostles by an orderly continuation which if they cannot do it is an easy matter to conuince them that the true Church of Christ is not with them For so Optatus Mileuitanus in his second booke against Parmenian when he would conuince the Donatistes that they had not the true Church with them said Shew forth the origen or beginning of your sea yow that wildaime the Holy Church to your selues And Tertullian in his prescriptions againg heretiks saith Let heretikes shew forth the origen of their Churches let them recount the order of their Bishops succeeding from the beginning that he who was the first should haue some Apostle or Apostolike man for his Author and predecessour c. The same argument do the rest of the Fathers commonly vse as (a) lib 3. cap ● Irenaeus (b) hoeresi 27. Epiphanius (c) cont Lucifer Hieronymus S. (d) cap. 4. cont Epist Fundam Augustine and others Now it is well knowne that neyther Lutherans Caluinistes nor Ana baptistes can with any the least colour do the same For to whome I pray you did Luther who for the most part was the Author and first parent of these new religions succeed Whose Chayre and authority did he occupy who before him was the prelate of the Luther an religion as also before Caluin and Zwinglius who was their predeceslour And if none can be assigned it is cleere that they want that succession which the Ancient Holy Fathers do require that any Church should be ioined with that of the Apostles Againe Want of Ordination they do not only want succession of Chayre and authority but euen the ordination of degrees descending from the Apostles For that there was alwayes requisite a double power in the Ministers of the Church both of them by an orderly continuation deriued from the Apostles as before we haue shewed in the 7. Consideration to wit Power of Order by which Sacrifice is offered and Sacraments are made to sanctify the faithfull and Power of Iurisdiction by which the authority of gouerning and feeding the Church with the word of God is giuen c. But these new religions can reduce neither of them to the Apostles Not the power of Iurisdiction because they want succession as before we haue said nor yet the Power of Ordinatiō or Order for who ordained Luther or Caluin a Bishop of their Church And if they say that order is not needfull they do contradict all antiquity and the perpetuall vse of the Church For neuer yet was there Bishop in the Church so as he had authority to exercise all Bishoply functions but that he was ordained by some other Bishop to whome by the Constitution of the Apostles themselues must be adioined two other bishops as is expressely commaunded in the first Canon of the Apostles fourth of the Nicene Councel as also insinuated by S. Paul writing to Timothy a Bishop 1. Tim. 4. and warning him thus Do not neglect the grace which is in thee which grace is giuen thee by prophesy with imposition of the hands of Priesthood that is to say of those Bishops who togeather with the Bishop that doth ordaine do lay their hands vpon him that is ordained as the Ancient Fathers do expound it By which it is cleere and euident that the Lutherans and Caluinists haue neither of these forsaid powers from the Apostles nor can they deriue the same from the Apostles and consequently in that they do not descend from them they haue not the true religion and Church with them For that the true Church according to both powers ought to be deriued and to haue continued with them from the Apostles as we haue shewed before seing that all power spirituall ought to be deriued from Christ through the Apostles and their successours by a continuall and orderly succession and communication to other ministers of the Church as the corporall life of man is deriued by certaine meanes through a continuall succession from our first parent Adam to the last For euen as in the old Testament there were no priests except those that descended from the Tribe of Leui thorough Aaron so in the new there are no priests or Bishops except those that descend in degree of Order and power of Iurisdiction from Christ the chiefe Priest through the Apostles and their successours And therfore as the Sinagogue could not be without priests descending by a continuall succession from Aaron so the Church of Christ cannot be without Priests or Bishops descending by the same continuall succession from the Apostles and their successours But the Congregation of Lutherans and Caluinistes had neuer any such ministers had neuer any Bishops-lawfully ordayned amongst them descending in power of Iurisdiction from the
Caluin is also manifest out of the Iudiciall Actes and processe of the Citty of Noyon in France Bolsecus in vita Calui ni cap. 5. Iul. Brigerus pag. 59. that he was conuicted of a wicked crime and by sentence condemned to haue byn publiquely burned if by the intercession of the Bishop of that place that punishment had not byn changed into whipping and burning vpon his backe with a hoat iron Wherby it is cuident that both by law deed he was infamous L. 1. ff de his qui not antur insamia and L. Quid ergo § Ex compromisso ff de his qui not antur infamia Of the pride and rayling of Luther it is euident First because from this fountaine to wit of pride all his doctrines toke their beginning For when as certayne Indulgences were to be promulgated in Germany and that the office therof hauing heertofore belonged to the Augustine Friars now they being at this tyme pretermitted the same was giuen in Commission to the Dominicans Which thing Luther taking in very ill part began with a splene to preach against Indulgences and though he were therof admonished and reprehended notwithstanding by little and little he not only continued the same but adioyned heerunto many more and greater articles of faith against the Authority of the Pope wherby he caused wonderfull troubles and garboyles throughout all Germany as largely wryteth Ioannes Cochlaeus that was an eye wittnes of all these things in the Acts of Luther an 1517. This pride and anger then was the first origen and ofspring of all Luthers doctrine without which perhaps Lutheran Religion had neuer byn nor so many other new sectes neither which since that tyme haue sprong vp and risen from thence Secondly for that Luther in his Epistle to those of Strasburge writeth that he would gladly deny the Reall presence of Christ in the holy Eucharist therby to trouble vex the Popedome if the Scriptures were not cleere against the same to the contrary And in another place he writeth thus If a Councell should appoint or permit the receyuing of the Sacramēt vnder both kinds lib. de formula miss we by no meanes would vse both but in despite of the Councell and appointment therof would eyther vse one or neyther cursing all such as by order of that Councell should vse both kinds c. Heere yow see he teacheth vs to abstayne from a thing necessary for our Saluation and that only in despite of the Councell that should comand or appoint it when as notwithstanding we may and oftentymes ought to obay euen a Tyrant when he comaundeth things lawfull Wherby we may see with what spirit he was caried way For what may be compared to this fury of his The same Luther in his booke against K. Henry the 8. of England wryteth that Kings Princes Popes are not worthy to loose the lachet of his shoe and that himselfe will be accompted for a holy man whether men will or no. Also that he cares not for a thousand Cyprians nor a thousand Augustines Also Christian Princes Kings and Emperours he calleth Tyrants Idiots fooles simple fellowes wild beasts hangmen nittes bubles enemyes of God most wicked knaues inuenteth scurrilous songes and rithmes against them Of Caluins pride and rayling besides that which D. Bolsecke hath aboundantly written the same is most euident in * lib 2. Inst c. 14. §. 3. lib. 3. c. 4 §. 10. lib. 4. c. 12. §. 20. alibi Caluins owne books also for that he doth euery where contemn al the holy and ancient Fathers of the Church and male partly accuseth them of errour The Schoole doctors he calleth Sophistes In his Sermons he oftentymes brake forth into these and such like words I am a Prophet I haue the spirit of God and if I erre God hath deceyued me and brought me into errour for the sinnes of the people c. He wrote also diuers letters and pamphlets of his own praises dignity merit in the Church which he alwaies published eyther in other mens or some feygned name as D. Bolsecke and others do wryte Many the like trickes might I alledge aswell against these as against other Authors and defenders of the new Religions of this Age but that I am very vnwilling to occupy my selfe in such affayres He that will see more in this kind let his read the life of Beza written also by D. Bolsecke Flores ●ulij Brigeri Surius his Comentaryes others Now then considering these things who can once thinke with himselfe that God would choose and vse such men as these were to wit infamous by all law and iudgment of the whole world of a most filthy life of an vnbridled and rayling tongue of a proud ambitious angry and enuious mind to be the reformers of his Church Who euer noted any such conditions or qualityes either in the Apostles or Prophets who were all most humble and no wayes infamous for any wickednes And although they were vnlearned and simple notwithstanding vpon a suddaine the were indued with admirable wisdome sanctity of life and grace of miracles They were wonderfully lowly of mynd of wonderfull meeknes they contemned the pleasures of this life and the earthly delightes of all thinges they were indued with wonderfull charity towards their neighbours they were wonderfully modest and circumspect in all their words and actions These and the like conditions and qualities we fee to haue byn in all such whome God hath vsed for the Conuersion of Nations and reformation of Christian people As for example in S. Augustine the Apostle of the English in S. Bonisace the Apostle of the Germans in S. Adalbert S. Etto S. VVillebrord S. Eloy and other Apostles of other Nations Also in S. Benet S. Bernard S. Romuald S. Dominike S. Francis and others by whose example and doctrine very many haue byn stirred vp to the contempt of earthly and transitory things and loue celestiall And if God did vse such men as these to the Conuersion of any Nation or Prouince or to the reformation or correction of manners in any people whose life was admirable to the world who notwithstanding did not receiue their mission immediatly from God but from the Pope by whome they were sent to do and execute these offices then I pray yow what manner of men had it byn fit that these should-haue byn who are said to haue byn sent inmediatly frō God and this not only for the reformation of the chiefe heads and points of religion but also to the reedification instauration of the whole Church and Kingdome of Christ now ruined And although al the sanctity and excellency all the vertues and spirituall giftes which were eyther in S. Iohn Baptist or any of the Apostles had byn all heaped togeather in one and had byn all infused into these men yet had the same not byn sufficient to warrant their Authority of so great a busines And shall we be so sottish then
by vertue and power of Gods decree And this againe was in tymes past an heresy of Simon (d) Vincēt Lirin Magus and of (e) Eusebius l. 5. c. 20. Florinus 3. Both teach that good works be not necessary to saluation and that fayth is ynough But this was an heresy of the same Simon (f) Iren. l. 1. c. 20● Magus and of (g) Aug. haer 54. the Eunomians about the yeare of Christ 360. 4. Both also teach that syns though neuer so many and great do not hurt him who hath fayth for that the malice of them is not imputed to him who beleeueth And this was also in tymes past an heresy of the (h) Aug. haer 54. Eunomians and of Basilides and Carpocrates as witnesseth Irenaeus l. 1. c. 23. 24. 5. Caluin denyeth the reall presence of Christs body in the Eucharist But this was againe an heresy of Berengarius about the yeare of our Lord 1051. Where it is to be noted first though some priuately before Berengarius doubted of that matter and moued the question about it yet none was so hardy as to professe it in publike as testifieth Hugh of Langres and Adelman of Bressia in their epistles to Berengarius and Paschasius in his booke of the words of the Institution of this Sacrament In so much as this was the constant and vniforme doctrine of the Church not opposed against by any arch-heretike vntill the tyme of Berengarius Secondly that Berengarius his opinion was whiles he yetlyued condemned in fiue Councells and that Berengarius himselfe thrise abiured his opinion and in conclusion died very penitent in the Catholike fayth He being dead the same heresy lay buried vp welneere two hundred yeares vntill the tyme of the Lollards who brought it to light againe as is gathered out of Trithemius in his Chronicle about the yeare 1315. After this againe VVicliffe held the same as appeareth by his third article After his death againe there was a deep silence of that matter for the space of an hundred yeares vntill Swinglius renewed it and Caluin and some others after him Whereby it euidently appeareth that this opinion was euer in the Church held for a manifest heresy therfore eyther the Church hath euer erred in a principall article of fayth and so consequently it was neuer Christs Church or that opinion which abrogateth and disclaymeth from the Reall presence of Christs body is an heresy indeed 6. Both take away all traditions and would haue all things to be comprehended in Scriptures alone The same was the heresy of the Arians as is recorded by S. Augustine also of Nestorius l. 1. contra Maxim c. 2. vlt. Dioscorus and Eutiches as is declared in the seauenth Synod Act. 1. 7. Both deny the Sacraments of Penance and of Confirmation The Nouatians taught the same opinion long ago as witnesse S. Cyprian l. 4. epist 2. l. 3. baer fabularum and S. Theodoret 8. Both teach that the Church consisteth of good alone and that the Church in former tymes visible perished notwithstanding for many ages that in this tyme it only remayneth in their congregations The very like was the heresy of the Donatists as testifieth S. Augustine l. de vnit Eccl. c. 12. 9. Both of them teach that prayer is not to be made for the dead that 〈◊〉 fast of Lent or any other stable fasts be not to be keep but euery one is then to fast when it shall to him seeme good The Aerians taught the very same in former ages if we beleeue Epiphamus haer 75. and S. Augustine l. dehaer c. 33. 10. Both deny the veneration of holy Reliques of Christs and Saints Images and call it Idolatry Vigilantius did no lesse many ages past as witnesseth S. Hierome The same did the Image breakers as testify Zoneras Cedrenus and Nicephorus touching them who made war against Images By these it is more then manifest that the chiefest opinions whereof Lutheranisme and Caluinisme consist be ancient heresyes long since condemned by the Church and that the same were alwayes held in the Church for heresyes The same may we easily exemplify and declare touching the rest Vide Bellar de notis Eccl. c. 9. Coccius de signis Eccl. l. 8. art 3. Wherehence it followeth that these Religions be nothing but the very sincke of heresyes of old longe ago put to silence and now in these latter dayes brought to light againe The XI Reason From the want of a Rule of Faith THESE new Religions haue no certaine rule of Faith to follow therfore they are not to be receyued For the principall heads of Religion must be determined certaine and withall immutable And that they haue not any certaine rule of beliefe whereby it may be resolued what is necessary to be beleeued and what not is euident First for that they admit neyther the traditions of the Church nor the authority of generall Councells nor the iudgment of the ancient Doctors of the Church and of those who flourished and liued before these our Controuersies Luther reiecteth all traditions in c. l. 4. c. 8. §. 6.7 8 in Antid ad 4. fes● Conc. Trident 1. ad Galatas as doth Caluin also l. 4. Instit and they teach that nothing is to be beleeued nothing to be receyued an holy Scripture Luther so contemneth Generall Councells which haue hitherto had most great authority in Gods Church for they be as it were the Parlaments of Princes In art 115 sequentib Peers in Christs Kingdome as he will haue the definitions therof subiect to the iudgment and censure of euery priuate person And he further sayth that it is a mad thing that the Councells will conclude what is to be beleeued And in the same place he teacheth that what is to be beleeued what not is to be left to the iudgment of euery spirituall man Caluin insinuateth no lesse l. 1. c. 7. § 1.2 4. when he sayth that it is not for the Church to iudge what books be Canonicall but that appertayneth to the inward spirit alone Finally as touching the Fathers Luther careth not for a thousand Augustines l. contra Regem Augiae a thousand Cyprians Caluin also in very many places contemneth them and affirmeth that they erred Wherefore none of all these is vnto them a rule of fayth But say they The Scripture it selfe is vnto vs a rule of fayth it cānot erre But it is an easy matter ●o shew that this rule serueth not the turne First because we by this rule cannot iudge of the Scripture it selfe and so the rule it selfe will remayne vnto vs vncertain which yet should haue the greatest certitude of all For by the Scripture it cannot come to be knowne for certaine that such a book is truly Scripture is not Apocripall nor composed by some deceiptfull person that this or that sentence is not peruerted northrust in Finally that nothing is added or taken
law but offendeth in one he is made guilty of all for he who said thou shall not commit adultery said also thou shall not kill as if he should say he is made guilty of all and shal be punished as a breaker of the whole law because he hath despised the law maker who is the author of the whole law In like manner therfore he which shall deny one article although he belieue all the rest is made guilty of violating his whole faith and Religion because he contemneth God who is the first Truth who no lesse reuealed this then the other he contēneth the Catholike Church the spouse of Christ who is the pillar strength of Truth wherby he hath no lesse determined we should belieue this then the other And this is the reason why he is no lesse an heretike who with pertinacy denieth one point of faith thē he which denieth a hundred because in that he denieth one he contemneth God who is the first truth and did reueale it he contemneth the authority of the Church the which did propose it vnto vs he maketh the Church subiect to error and a liar wherby he is made also vncertaine of all the rest and looseth all his diuine faith for the ground of his diuine faith being takē away his whole faith must needs perish and consequently there remaineth only an opinion or humane fayth subiect to error wherby he belieueth all the rest The 10. Reason Tenthly and lastly this opinion is very dangerous in the practise therof for it maketh a man that he careth not what religion he hold what he belieueth or not belieueth he doth not therfore seeke after the truth and he doth as easily and with as great security lay hold on false as true things yet all men not only Catholike but euen the more principal sects those which are learned wise men do absolut'y affirme that none can be saued without the true faith and religion and whosoeuer are depriued therof shall perish for euer The followers therfore of this opinion are condemned of all and they only promise vnto themselues saluation without any author testimony or reason for it relying and trusting only in their owne vain imagination of their foolish braine let then therefore heare out of S. Fulgentius what antiquity hath alwaies holden and what the Catholike Church hath taught in all ages Thus therfore he writeth setting downe the rules of our common saith in his booke de fide ad Petruin Diaconum Cap. 38. Belieue assuredly saith he and doubt nothing at all that not only all Pagans but also all Iewes Heretikes and Schismatikes who shall dy out of the Catholike Church shall go into euerlasting fire which is prepared for the diuell and his Angells And in the 39. Cap. Belieue assuredly and doubt nothing that euery heretik or Schismatik christned in the name of the Father of the Son and of the holy Ghost if he be not within the number of those which are of the Catholik Church what almes soeuer he hath made albeit he shall shed his bloud for the name of Christ can by no meanes be saued for neither baptisme nor large and charitable almes nor death it selfe suffered for Christes sake will auaile that mā who 〈…〉 vnity of the Catholik Church as long as this hereticall or schismaticall wickednes wh●th leadeth to perdition shall continue in him This hath always byn the faith of the Catholike Church and the most certayne and vndoubted doctrine of the holy Fathers the which I would to God al those who remaine out of the Church of God would attentiuely and diligently consider they would truly and easily preceiue in how dangerous a state they continue Thou O Christ the light of the world shyne vnto their mindes and lighten their hartes Amen FINIS