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A91187	A fresh discovery of some prodigious new wandring-blasing-stars, & firebrands, stiling themselves nevv-lights, firing our church and state into new combustions. Divided into ten sections, comprising severall most libellous, scandalous, seditious, insolent, uncharitable, (and some blasphemous) passages; published in late unlicensed printed pamphlets, against the ecclesiasticall jurisdiction and power of parliaments, councels, synods, Christian kings and magistrates, in generall; the ordinances and proceedings of this present Parliament, in speciall: the national covenant, assembly, directory, our brethren of Scotland, Presbyterian government; the Church of England, with her ministers, worship; the opposers of independent novelties; ... Whereunto some letters and papers lately sent from the Sommer-Islands, are subjoyned, relating the schismaticall, illegal, tyrannical proceedings of some Independents there, in gathering their new-churches, to the great distraction and prejudice of that plantation. / Published for the common good by William Prynne of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire.	Prynne, William, 1600-1669.	1645 (1645)	Wing P3963; Thomason E261_5; ESTC R212456	96,461	90

unto The Apostle exhorts us all that wee should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the Saints And I may fitly answer them in the words of that renouned Souldier of Christ Doctor Bastwick who being checked by the Bishop of Canterbury in like sort as I am by these that he being a Physitian a Lay-man should presume to write of some points in Divinity answers in Latine to this purpose in English I writ a Book saith he not to finde my selfe employment or to stirre up strife but of a Christian minde and affection according to my duty to God and my Prince The reproach of a Lay-man toucheth not me for he which hath vowed himselfe to Christ is one of Gods Clergy The ancient Church doth not acknowledge that surname of a Lay-man but reckons it among the Soloecismes of the Beast We have given promised and vowed unto Christ in Baptisme our name and faith and have solemnly denounced battell against the flesh the world the devill herefie c. against which wee must fight unlesse wee put off the reverence and respect of our Vow How unseasonable is it then to ask by what authority we fight against these And a little after shall that be a fault in me which is a praise to Divines They exercise physick Grazing merchantdize they husband their grounds plant gather in their fruits they all may doe all things I envy not yet I wonder we should be so streightned whilst they have such liberty But if some blunt fellow should ask a Divine Hear'st thou good man what hast thou to doe with the Court with privy Councell with Seats of Judgement what hast thou to doe with renting lands with planting vineyards with breeding cattell with money the provocation of all evills would he not check such a bold question with some sharp answer yes doubtlesse he would What then should we doe when we are asked What wee have to doe with God with Christ with Religion with the Truth We will laugh to scorne such envious questions and performe with diligence what God calls us to Wee will endeavour with all chearfulnesse the defence of the truth the conservation of Religion the observation of our fidelity and allegiance to that Soveraigne Authority which is over us rendring an account of our endeavours to him to whom wee have vowed our selves c. He that desires to see his defence more at large may peruse his Apology to the English Prelates Now I beseeth you brethren mark them diligently which cause division and offences contrary to the Doctrine which yee have learned and avoid them 18. For they that are such serve not the Lord Iesus Christ but their own● bellies and with faire speech and flattering deceive the hearts of the simple March 30. 1643. FINIS a Psal 73. 9. b Exod 22. 28. Acts 23. 5. c 2 Pet. 2. 10. d 2 Thes 2. 4. e 2 Pet. 2. 11. Rom. 13. f Mar. 15. 7. g Jer. 4. 19. k Martins Eccho p. 5. 6. The Nativity of Sir Iohn Presbyter p. 5. 9. 10. 1● Note n 1 Cor. 14. 34. 35. 1 Tim. 2. 11 12. * Which they used in New port Pa●●ell contrary to the Governours Command a Sl●idan Com. l. 5. 10. Gastius de Anabaptist Erroribus Bullinger advers Anabaptist Guil. de Bres C●ntr Les Anabap●●stes D. Featlies Dippers Dipt p. 199. 200 c The History of the Anabaptists Object Answ * Psal 56. 4. Isa 7. 4. Jer. ● ● 17 * See 31. H. 6. c. 1. * Psal 56. 4. Gen. 3. 1 2 12. 1 Tim. 2. 14. Jude 23. James 2. * Pray God you prove so 1. Libellous seditious passages against the Ordinances in regulating Printing b Neither I nor the black-coats but the Parliament were the sole Authors of these Ordinances * And therefore you who have abused your pen as much as any man c You would say illaffected as your Libels against their power Ordinances and proceedings evidence d So it is in an orderly regular though not in a Libellous seditious way e Liberty to Print Libels standers invectives against Parliamentary proceedings is not the Subjects Liberty or priviledge but his claim and shame f Your Libels carriages proclaim them such g Impious seditious if you will not pious h Rather a Diab●licall Libell against it i Not to print modest and sober Trea●ies but seditious Libels 〈◊〉 blasphemy k It was a Parliamentary Ordinance of both Houses not made by Presbiterians l It seems th●● Libeller denies the soules immortality and writes as it there were no heaven nor hell Libellous seditious passages against the Ordinance for Tythes n They were long before Popery and being the Ministers maintainance warranted not only by the law of Nature of Nations and the old Testament but by the new too 1 Cor. 9. 7. to 16. o If you add by vertue in 〈◊〉 of the Leviticall law to Leviticall Priests your argument might have some weight but if by vertue of the fore-cited Gospel Texts the law of the Land common equity to Ministers of the Gospel as now Tyths are 〈◊〉 your 〈…〉 nonsense Luke 10. 7. 1 Tim. 5. 17 〈◊〉 G●l 6. 6. 〈…〉 He should say 〈…〉 p 〈…〉 q 〈…〉 〈◊〉 Pet. 2. 10. 〈◊〉 13. 2 3. r James 3. 6. 〈…〉 Note A most Independ●nt false calumny s A grosse scandall they never de●●red but to be moderately taxed in equa●ity with others 〈…〉 their 〈…〉 〈…〉 t A very modest Christian Phrase Psal 58. 〈…〉 well 〈…〉 Kingdom 〈…〉 x 〈…〉 y 〈…〉 * And is it not much more so in Independ Churches where the Minister in truth like a Pope rules all the rest at his pleasure will admit none but those of his own faction Note Note Note Note Note Note Note Master Henry Burton his Vindication of the Churches commonly called Independent p. 56. 62 63. Note Note Such were fit to make Independant Members Note Note Note Note 2 Tim. 3. 7. * Gal. 5. 2● Note Note Note * You mean and conclude Erge you must not obey them in pulling down Popery and setting up a Presbyteri●ll Government againstus now * Not so but only in things simply civill and directly against Gods word We must not obey them in things against Gods word but must obey them in all things not repugnant to it is no contradiction * No but when God commands us not to obey * Note the Parliament must have no more power then Independents give or mean to give them * Where any such are imposed on them by the Parliament they may passively disobey not seditiously oppose But this is not our present case but the quite contrary * A presumptu●us censure of the Vow and Covenant and Parliaments pressing of it * You Devil-like omit out of the Vow and Covenant according to Gods word c. * A seditious Quere to stir up the people against the Parliament and reseinds their Acts. * Glanvil l. 14. p. 170. * You should

but there would a fearfull ataxy follow without the present Government whereof I so approve that I have and do willingly submit to it and them and have and will presse the same upon others 3 For the Ceremonies that are in use among us as I have already subscribed so I shall diligently and daily practise neither have I ever been accused for neglect therein where I have formerly exercised my Ministry but to them do give my full approbation and allowance 4. For the Book of Common-Prayer the Lyturgie of the Church and what is in them contained finding them agreeable unto the word of God I have used as other Ministers have done and am resolved so to do and have not been Refractory in this particular at any time nor do I intend to be God willing and to these I Subscribe with my heart and hand humbly submitting them and my self to your Lordships pleasure Your Lordships in all humble service HUGH PETER London the 17. of August 1627. IF Master Peter be now of another Judgement it manifests either his grosse ignorance or temporizing then or his levity now and that he is as unsteady in his opinion as in his excentrick motion from place to place But this is in verity the essentiall property of our Lunacy New sights who like the Moon whose light Predominates in them are alwayes changing yea ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the Truth which they continually intricate with their Independent doubts Section IX Containing Libellious Scandalous unchristian Censures and Invectives against those Persons who out of conscience have Written or Preached against the Independents Seditious Schismaticall wayes and Practises I Shall first begin with such Invectives as concern my self What large Encomiums beyond my deserts I received from the Independent party before I writ against their new wayes opinions only in a moderate modest manner by way of Questions is very well known to themselves and others being such and so many that modesty forbids me to relate them lest I should be thought the Herald of my own praises and deserts How many Libells Scandals and false reports of all kindes they have causlesly published of me since by Speech and Printed Libells only because I differ from them in opinion and have in point of conscience being requested so to do declared my opinion of their new groundlesse wayes and Tenets is very well known unto many who have leisure to peruse the severall empty Pamphlets and Invectives daily published a gainst me I shall give you a taste of some few in lieu of many It pleased Iohn Lilburne among others for whom I have done some courtesies but never the least injury or discourtesie in word or deed upon the coming out of my Truth Triumphing over Falshood c. Licensed by a Committee of Parliament for the Presse before ever he had read the Book to write a Libellous Letter to me concerning it which he sent to the Presse and published in Print without License before I received and perused it which though answered in Print by others without my privity openly complained of in the Commons House who referred it to the Committee of Examinations as a most Seditious Libell against the Parliament and Assembly yet I deemed it more worthy contempt then any Answer as refuting not one syllable in my Book In this Letter he stiles me An inciter of higher Powers to wage war with the King of Saints and his Redeemed ones An endeavourer to set the Princes of the earth together by the ears with Christ to pluck his Crown from his head his Scepter out of his hand and his Person out of his Throne of State that his Father hath given him to raign gloriously in He most falsely chargeth me with this false Position That there is no rule left in the word how we may worship God but that Kings and States may set up what Religion they please or may mould it to the manners of their people Whereas there is not any such syllable in any of my Books but the contrary profe●sedly asserted and the Controversies therein debated concerne not the substance of Gods worship or Religion but only the Circumstance of Church-Government which I asserted then on such grounds as their party hath not yet refu●ed not to be precisely set down determined in the New Testament in all particulars but yet conclude that no Church Government ought to be set up but that which is agreeable to the Scriptures though not dogmatically and precisely prescribed in them ●o that if this Libeller were not past all shame he might have blush● to Print and ●●print so notorious a falshood without retractation After this he thus proceeds Had I not seen your name to your Books I should rather have judged them a Papists or a Iesuits then Master Prynnes and without doubt the Pope when he sees them will CANONIZE YOU FOR A SAINT in throwing down his enemy Christ Certainly no Book of mine either in the Front or Bulke carries the least badge of a Priest or Jesuit in it and so far am I from demeriting any thing from the Pope or to be Canonized by him for a Saint that I can without vanity or ostentation affirme before all the world that I have done more disservice to Priests Iesuits and the Pope made more discoveries of their Plots and written more against them and Popery then all the whole generation of Sectaries and Independents put together and I challenge all their Sects to equalize or come near what I have really performed in this particular so that if any man this day breathing in England deserve an Anathema Maranathae from the Pope his party I have more cause to expect itthen any other The whole Kingdom therefore will Proclaim him a notorious slanderer in this particular He proceeds yet further Surely he writes but his words are no Oracles you have given away your ears and have suffered as a busie-body in opposing the King and the Prelats without doubt all is not Gold that glisters for were you not a man that had more then truth to look after namely your own ends and particular interests which I am afraid you strive to set up more then the publike good you should have importuned the Parliament to have continued their favour and respect to that people that cannot prostrate their consciences to mans devices Surely my conscience tells me that I am free from this injurious calumny For my ears I blesse God I gave them not away but lost them in a just quarrell against all Law and Iustice as both Houses of Parliament have unanimously adjudged But whether you did not justly lose your ears for Sedition then and deserve not to lose he remainder of them that I say no more for your Seditious and Libellious carriage now is a great question among your most intelligent friends For my opposing King and Prelates as a busie-body perchance it might be your

written or preached against their seditious wayes and Libels 10. Seditious Queres Passages and Practises to excite mutinies and popular commotions against the Parliament and disobedience to its commands Section I. Containing divers seditious scandalous libellous passages against the authority and jurisdiction of Parliaments Synods and temporall Magistrates in generall in Ecclesiasticall affaires in the late writings of several Independent New-lights and Firebrands I Shall begin with a Copy of a Letter written by John Lilburne Lieu Colonell the Ringleader of this Regiment of New-Firebrands to William Prynne Esq upon the comming out of his last book intituled Truth triumphing over Falsehood Antiquity over●Novelty Of which Letter there have bin three Impressions made by him without license contrary to the Ordinance of both Houses restraining the printing or dispersing of unlicensed libellous seditious Pamphlets whre he p. 4. writes thus Sir in your last book that you put out you spend a great deale of paines in citing old rusty Authors to prove that Kings Councels Synods and States have for so many hundred yeares medled with matters of Religion I grant you they have but I demand of you by what right or by what authority out of the Word of God they have so done Hath God the Father or Jesus Christ his Sonne given them any allowance in this Or have they not hereby rather fulfilled the prophesies of the Scripture which saith Rev. 17. 17. That the Kings of the Earth shall give their power unto the Beast till the Word of God be fulfilled which they have done in assisting the Popes to joyne the Ecclesiasticall and Civill State together making the Golden Lawes of Christ to depend upon the Leaden Lawes of Man yea upon such Lawes as was just suitable to their tyrannicall lusts and which might the most advance their wicked ends and designes and in the doing of this they have set up a perfect Antichrist against GOD'S CHRIST yea England is not free from this And to hold that Kings Parliaments Synods States have any thing to do in matters of Religion and Church-Government he concludes pag. 5. to be a setting of the Potentates of the earth together by the eares with Christ who is to rule all Nations Rev. 12. 5. to pluck his Crown from his head his Scepter out of his hand and his person out of his throne and State that his Father hath given him to raign gloriously in Which is thus backed by Henry Robinson the supposed Author of the Answer to Mr. William Prynnes 12. Questions concerning Church-Government pag. 6. Particular Churches members of a Kingdome and Nation are not obliged in point of Conscience and Christianity to submit unto whatsoever publike Church Government Rites and Discipline a Nationall Councell Synod and Parliament shall conceive most consonant to Gods Word unlesse it prove so in the whole Kingdomes Nations and those very particular Churches Judgement pag. 8. The grounds of Independent Government attribute nothing to the Magistrate in Church affaires further then the Magistrate is a member of their Churches and Assemblies pag. 12. You can no more Justifie a Nationall Church of Christians shall likewise go up to the Temple of Jerusalem from whence by the same Prophesie they are also to receive the Word of God and not from Parliament Pope Synod or Presbytery Mr. Henry Burton in his Vindication of Churches commonly called Independent c. p. 49 50 51 c The Church is a spirituall kingdome whose only King is Christ and not Man It is a spirituall Re-publick whose only Law-giver is Christ and not Man No man nor power on earth hath a Kingly power over this kingdome No earthly Lawgiver may give lawes for the government of this Republick No man can or ought to undertake the government of this communion of Saints No humane power or law may intermeddle to prescribe rules for the government or form of this spirituall house NOT COUNCELS NOT SENATES This is Christs Royall Prerogative which is uncommunicable to ANY TO ALL THE POWERS ON EARTH c. he adds p. 60 61. We challenge you to shew us any Parliament Councell Synod ever since the Apostles that could or can say thus It seemed good to the Holy Ghost and us to determine controversies of Religion to make and impose Canons to binde all men c. Shew this to us at this time and we will obey But if you cannot as you never can never let any man presse upon us that Scripture that Synod which hath no parallell in the whole world and so is no precedent or patterne for any Councell Synod Parliaments A short Answer to Adam Stewarts second part of his over-grown Duply to the Two Brethren with certaine difficults questions easily answered printed without license 1644. supposed to be written by Mr. Iohn Goodwin p. 13 17. But perhaps you 'l say there is an Act of Parliament a Civill law declaring heresie or any different from the State opinions such as for the present are in fashion to be censurable by the civill power I answer not without all due respect unto the lawes and such as made them that if there be any distinction between a Church-state and a civill-state which all Christians hitherto acknowledge the enacting civill lawes to punish spirituall offences is not only a solecisme or impropriety in state but an incroaching on the Churches power a profaning of the Keyes and injurious to the offender who by this meanes is punished both beyond the degree and nature of his offence If the blessed Spirit should at any time bear witnesse unto your spirit or unto the spirit of a whole Parliament and Synod what were this to the spirits of other men must not they wait with patience untill the blessed Spirit be pleased to visit their spirits likewise before they can joyne with yours or the Assemblies spirit But if the Synods determination of this or that controversie should seem good unto the holy Ghost as the Churches decrees of Jerusalem did must they therefore be imposed upon the Countrey the whole world Is not this to equallize your Synodall Canons with those decrees of the Apostolicall Church of Jerusalem and to make Scripture of yours as well as theirs is not this to adde to Scripture nay to alter it p. 28. But if King and Parliament may not force a new Religion or Sect suppose Presbyterian upon the kingdome much lesse can the Synod which neither has not yet pretends as is alleaged to use the materiall sword And if for matters of religion all power originally is in Christ as you sometimes acknowledge How can King Parliament or Synod wrest it from him Nay what think you is it not secondarily in the people as well as civill power which you affirme in the same page and so doubtlesse is spirituall power unlesse you will make God to have provided mankinde better of a safegard or liberty to defend their bodies than their soules If then the spirituall power be so inherently in

the Parliament and their faithfull friends and servants and that my actions and practises tend to no better end but to make him and his partie VS to be sleighted and contemned and that they a faithfull conscientious AND CONSIDERABLE PARTY IN THE ARMY and KINGDOM MIGHT BE DISINGAGED and CAVSED TO LAY DOWN THEIR ARMES c. After which he concludes thus pag. 7. Now I appeal to everie true hearted Englishman that desires a speedie end of these Wars of what evil consequence it would be to the Parliament and Kingdoms to have such a faithfull and considerable partie as Mr. Prynne calumni●teth and reproacheth as bad if not worse then ever the Bishop of Canterbury did should be causleslie cut off with the sword or be disingaged by his means especiallie seeing the Kingdoms necessities is such that they stand in need of the help of Forrainers In which Passage he intimates First that those Anti-Parliamentary seditious Sectaries who confederate with this Libeller know their own particular pretended strength in the Army and Kingdom Secondly that they fight only for their own private interests and to erect their own Church Government not for Religion not the publick Cause since my very writing against their Schismaticall seditious wayes but in meer generall terms as this Libeller one of their privy Cabinet Councell intimates and that by Authority of a Committee of Parliament in just defence of the Parliaments undoubted Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction and Authority which they most affront of any men whatsoever Is a means to disingage and cause them to lay down their Armes Thirdly I answer that if he his party be such faithfull friends and servants to the Parliament and such a conscientious considerable party both in the Army and Kingdom as he pretends my writing in defence of the Parliaments jurisdiction which they pretend to fight for can be no dis-ingagement or dis-couragement to them And therefore himself alone must be the Incendiary twixt them and the Parliament and the dis-ingager of them to lay down their Armes by these his slanderous Libells against the Parliaments jurisdiction Priviledges Proceedings not I who have only Cordially maintained them according to my solemn Vow and Covenant by publike encouragement and speciall approbation I shal therefore challenge so much Iustice from this Epistoler as publikely to retract all these his malicious Libellous slanders of me without the least provocation given him on my part or else he must expect from God all good men yea from his own best friends and party the brand of a most malicious Libeller slanderer Incendiary and undergoe the punishment due to such To this I might adde a whole bundle of Calumnies and injuries against me in Master Iohn Goodwins Calumny Arraigned and cast wherein he chargeth me pag. 2. for aspersing the Honourable Committee for Plundered Ministers and himself in averting that he was suspended and sequestred by that Committee which all the Committee then and himself with his Confederates since experimentally know to be a reall truth however they outfaced it for a time His other Calumnies are so grosse and triviall that I will not waste Paper to refute them These Libellers are not single but thus seconded by a Brother of their Sect one Henry Robinson in his Pamphlet intituled The Pretences of Master William Prynne c. A meer empty Libell fraught with nothing but railings and slanders against me and in his latter Libell intituled The Falshood of Master William Prynnes Truth Triumphing in the Antiquity of Popish Princes and Parliaments To which he attributes a sole Soveraign Legislative Coercive power in all matters of Religion Discovered to be full of absurdities contradictions Sacriledge and to make more in favour of Rome and Antichrist then all the Books and Pamphlets which were ever published whether by Papall or Epi●copall Prelats or Parasites since the Reformation with twelve Queries eight whereof visit Master Prynne the second time because they could not be satisfied at the first Printed in London 1645. Here is a large Libellous Title but not one syllable of it so much as proved or made good in the Book wherein he convinceth me neither of Falshood nor absurdities nor Contradictions nor Sacriledge And whereas he chargeth That my Truths Triumphing c. Makes more in favour of Rome and Antichrist then all the Books and Pamphlets which were ever published by Papall or Episcopall Prelats or Parasites since the Reformation of which he makes not the least offer of proof in his Book I shall aver to all the world I hope without ostentation being thus enforced to it and appeal to all men of Iudgement who have read it that it makes more against Rome Antichrist and the usurped power of Popish Lordly Prelates and Clergymen in points of calling Councels the Authority of Prelates Clergy men and Synods in making binding Canons c. and other points therein debated then any Book or Pamphlet whatsoever of this Subject written by any Prelate Clergy man Laicke or by all the whole Mungrell Regiment of Anabaptists Sectaries or Independents put together Therefore this Title of his is a most false malicious impudent slander of a Libeller past shame void both of truth and conscience His passage against me pag. 9. 10. Is much of kin to his Title Page where thus he writes The truth is I cannot deny but Master Prynne was once by more then many and they godly too held to be a man of Piety and was highly honoured in whose Books and Pamphlets notwithstanding which have been published of late may be observed more corrupted Principles and a far worse spirit of persecution then ever was discovered in the late Delinquent Decapitated Archbishop from his first ascending unto his highest growth of Authority and greatnesse and in the Diary of his life which I suppose Master Prynne Printed not to do him honour though after Ages will not be tyed to be no wiser then Master Prynne I finde such eminent signes of a Morall Noble pious minde according to such weak principles as he had been bred up in his own persecuting disposition disabling him from being instructed better and particularly so ingenious a passage in his Funeral Sermon whereby he justifies the Parliament in putting him to death as I may safely professe to all the world I never yet could discerne any thing near of like piety or ingenuity to be in Master Pryune by all that ever I yet heard of him from first to last or by all the books of his which ever came to my hands wherein yet I have hitherto done him the honour in being at charges to buy as many I mean one of every sort as I could ever meet withall Surely I am much beholding to this Gentleman for proclaiming me a man of more corrupt principles and a person possessed with a worse spirit of persecution then the late Decapitated Archbishop but the Archbishop far more obliged to him in Canonizing him for such a Saint As for his Diary