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A65714 Romish doctrines not from the beginning, or, A reply to what S.C. (or Serenus Cressy) a Roman Catholick hath returned to Dr. Pierces sermon preached before His Majesty at Whitehall, Feb. 1 1662 in vindication of our church against the novelties of Rome / by Daniel Whitbie ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726. 1664 (1664) Wing W1736; ESTC R39058 335,424 421

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incline_v to_o transubstantiation_n the_o first_o be_v that_o of_o saint_n chrysostome_n to_o wit_n the_o most_o precious_a thing_n in_o heaven_n i_o will_v show_v thou_o place_v upon_o earth_n 24._o 1_o cor._n 10._o hom._n 24._o but_o this_o may_v be_v fair_o interpret_v thus_o that_o it_o be_v place_v upon_o earth_n in_o its_o representation_n in_o those_o element_n which_o convey_v the_o virtue_n of_o his_o body_n to_o we_o and_o therefore_o deserve_o be_v call_v his_o body_n let_v chrysostome_n interpret_v himself_o who_o in_o his_o epistle_n ad_fw-la caesar_n contra_fw-la haeres_fw-la apollinar_a cite_v by_o damascen_n and_o the_o collector_n of_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o father_n against_o the_o severian_n set_v forth_o by_o turrian_n have_v these_o word_n before_o the_o bread_n be_v sanctify_v we_o name_v it_o bread_n but_o the_o divine_a grace_n sanctify_v it_o by_o the_o mean_n of_o the_o priest_n it_o be_v free_v from_o that_o name_n and_o be_v esteem_v worthy_a to_o be_v call_v the_o lord_n body_n although_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n remain_v in_o it_o and_o yet_o i_o must_v not_o forget_v to_o tell_v you_o 130._o p._n 130._o that_o whereas_o our_o adversary_n render_v a_o clause_n of_o saint_n chrysostom_n sentence_n thou_o not_o only_o see_v the_o body_n itself_o saint_n chrysostome_n have_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thou_o do_v not_o indce_v see_v the_o very_a same_o body_n not_o proper_o the_o same_o that_o the_o magi_n see_v but_o thou_o know_v both_o the_o virtue_n and_o the_o whole_a dispensation_n and_o art_n ignorant_a of_o nothing_o that_o be_v do_v be_v accurate_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d teach_v all_o these_o thing_n in_o the_o mystery_n and_o so_o the_o place_n make_v more_o against_o then_o for_o he_o the_o same_o answer_n may_v be_v return_v to_o that_o of_o ambrose_n sect._n 12_o that_o the_o same_o flesh_n be_v in_o the_o mystery_n which_o the_o apostle_n worship_v in_o our_o lord_n christ_n spir._n de_fw-fr spir._n viz._n it_o be_v in_o the_o mystery_n representative_o 384._o see_v bishop_n taylor_n of_o real_a pres_n p_o 384._o it_o be_v here_o in_o imagine_v as_o st._n ambrose_n elsewhere_o but_o in_o heaven_n in_o veritate_fw-la the_o truth_n the_o substance_n be_v there_o thus_o l._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacram_fw-la c._n 5._o he_o call_v it_o the_o figure_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o c._n 4._o tell_v we_o it_o be_v a_o wonderful_a power_n of_o god_n which_o make_v that_o the_o bread_n shall_v remain_v what_o it_o be_v and_o yet_o be_v change_v into_o another_o thing_n and_o then_o again_o how_o much_o more_o operative_a be_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o thing_n be_v what_o they_o be_v and_o yet_o be_v change_v into_o another_o and_o so_o that_o which_o be_v bread_n before_o consecration_n now_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o word_n because_o they_o can_v not_o answer_v they_o corrupt_v and_o thus_o have_v return_v a_o answer_n to_o his_o argument_n we_o 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reason_n of_o confidence_n indeed_o put_v it_o into_o syllogium_n and_o it_o run_v thus_o that_o which_o have_v reference_n to_o the_o passeover_n and_o the_o drink_n of_o the_o cup_n which_o be_v annex_v to_o it_o have_v not_o reference_n to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o supper_n of_o our_o lord_n but_o these_o word_n have_v reference_n to_o the_o former_a now_o all_o their_o who_o tell_v we_o that_o christ_n speak_v the_o sentence_n twice_o will_v deny_v his_o major_n see_v the_o word_n may_v have_v reference_n to_o both_o according_a to_o their_o various_a time_n of_o utterance_n now_o that_o this_o interpretation_n must_v take_v place_n against_o our_o adversary_n i_o will_v prove_v because_o he_o grant_v it_o do_v refer_v to_o the_o pass-ove_a in_o saint_n luke_n and_o evident_o it_o refer_v to_o the_o consecrate_a cup_n in_o saint_n matthew_n
infer_v that_o after_o the_o solemnity_n end_v he_o drink_v no_o more_o of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n which_o advantage_v he_o nothing_o and_o yet_o 3_o if_o neither_o of_o these_o two_o answer_n can_v stand_v yet_o see_v we_o have_v make_v it_o probable_a if_o not_o necessary_a that_o these_o word_n shall_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o eucharistical_a cup_n his_o argument_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n irrevocable_o sect._n 17_o for_o a_o close_a i_o will_v mind_v he_o of_o what_o jansenius_n have_v long_o ago_o tell_v he_o that_o this_o argument_n be_v frivolous_a and_o unconcluding_a hence_o it_o appear_v locum_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la say_v he_o how_o infirm_a that_o argument_n be_v which_o some_o of_o our_o man_n suppose_v efficacious_a to_o prove_v transubstantiation_n from_o this_o that_o christ_n say_v non_fw-la bibam_fw-la de_fw-fr genimine_fw-la vitis_fw-la infer_v that_o what_o he_o drink_v of_o be_v not_o so_o etc._n etc._n for_o say_v he_o shall_v we_o grant_v which_o yet_o be_v less_o probable_a that_o this_o be_v say_v by_o s._n luke_n before_o the_o consecration_n yet_o by_o saint_n matth._n and_o mark_v it_o seem_v clear_o to_o be_v speak_v after_o so_o that_o our_o argue_v from_o uncertainty_n which_o with_o great_a probability_n may_v be_v reject_v then_o allege_v will_v never_o be_v sufficient_a to_o establish_v any_o dogma_fw-la or_o opinion_n but_o rather_o give_v occasion_n to_o heretic_n to_z be_v more_o pertinacious_a in_o their_o error_n when_o they_o see_v such_o weak_a argument_n bring_v against_o they_o thus_o i_o have_v vindicate_v the_o doctor_n argument_n sect._n 18_o i_o will_v but_o add_v one_o more_o signeur_fw-fr mich._n le_fw-fr faucheur_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr even_n de_fw-fr signeur_fw-fr though_o i_o can_v tell_v he_o where_o to_o meet_v with_o a_o hundred_o and_o that_o be_v this_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n six_o or_o seven_o time_n in_o one_o or_o two_o chapter_n call_v bread_n be_v bread_n but_o the_o eucharist_n after_o consecration_n be_v so_o call_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2_o cor._n 10.16_o 17._o chap._n 11._o vers_fw-la 26.27_o 28._o the_o minor_a be_v evident_a to_o any_o that_o have_v eye_n and_o will_v believe_v they_o the_o major_a i_o prove_v thus_o 1_o if_o that_o which_o be_v once_o call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v sufficient_o argue_v to_o be_v so_o albeit_o it_o have_v all_o the_o accident_n of_o another_o thing_n and_o seem_v to_o all_o our_o sense_n to_o be_v so_o then_o that_o which_o be_v call_v bread_n seven_o time_n and_o seem_v to_o all_o our_o sense_n so_o to_o be_v be_v sufficient_o prove_v to_o be_v so_o but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a for_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n thence_o prove_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v corporal_o in_o the_o sacrament_n if_o it_o do_v it_o efficacious_o than_o it_o must_v be_v so_o if_o not_o then_o it_o be_v not_o a_o infallible_a interpreter_n of_o scripture_n nor_o be_v their_o argument_n thence_o conclude_v now_o that_o this_o 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perron_n mich._n le_fw-fr faveheur_fw-fr and_o bernardus_n albertinus_n to_o who_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n for_o abundant_a satisfaction_n and_o shall_v content_v myself_o with_o one_o only_a passage_n of_o theodoret_n who_o in_o his_o second_o dial._n bring_v in_o a_o man_n contend_v that_o christ_n humane_a nature_n be_v swallow_v up_o of_o the_o divine_a which_o he_o illustrate_v thus_o as_o the_o element_n or_o symbol_n of_o the_o lord_n body_n before_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v one_o thing_n but_o after_o invocation_n be_v change_v and_o make_v another_o so_o the_o lord_n body_n after_o his_o ascension_n be_v change_v into_o a_o divine_a substance_n to_o which_o he_o answer_v you_o be_v catch_v in_o your_o own_o net_n for_o the_o symbol_n do_v not_o go_v out_o of_o their_o proper_a nature_n but_o remain_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o former_a substance_n wherein_o they_o be_v and_o thus_o i_o have_v finish_v the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o chapter_n concern_v transubstantiation_n sect._n 20_o i_o come_v now_o to_o return_v a_o answer_n to_o what_o he_o have_v plead_v for_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o first_o the_o place_n which_o he_o cite_v out_o of_o st._n chrysostome_n will_v not_o conclude_v his_o purpose_n for_o albeit_o he_o say_v 24._o 1_o cor._n 10._o ho._n 24._o let_v we_o imitate_v the_o barbarous_a magi_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o say_v as_o our_o author_n parenthesis_n will_v have_v he_o that_o we_o shall_v imitate_v they_o in_o worship_v our_o lord_n but_o only_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o address_v themselves_o unto_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o fear_n or_o horror_n let_v we_o therefore_o stir_v up_o ourselves_o say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d far_o great_a fear_n than_o they_o for_o this_o exposition_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o comparison_n require_v and_o that_o this_o word_n ordinary_o bear_v the_o sense_n if_o any_o will_v far_o be_v inform_v let_v he_o have_v recourse_n to_o beza_n or_o any_o other_o commentator_n upon_o the_o 5._o heb._n 7_o and_o he_o may_v receive_v satisfaction_n from_o they_o second_o do_v chrysostome_n indeed_o speak_v of_o adoration_n yet_o may_v he_o bid_v we_o imitate_v these_o magi_n not_o by_o adore_v the_o element_n but_o he_o that_o be_v represent_v by_o they_o matth._n hom._n 8_o q._n in_o matth._n thus_o when_o elsewhere_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v christ_n who_o beg_v and_o receive_v in_o the_o poor_a man_n sheaf_n and_o bid_v we_o reverence_v he_o i_o suppose_v he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o reverence_n do_v to_o the_o poor_a man_n but_o direct_v to_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n the_o other_o three_o citation_n tell_v we_o only_o this_o sect._n 21_o that_o they_o do_v adore_v christ_n flesh_n in_o the_o sacrament_n 131._o mr._n cr._n p._n 131._o and_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v very_o well_o know_v that_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o latin_a adoro_fw-la be_v use_v by_o the_o father_n for_o any_o kind_n of_o reverence_n as_o when_o it_o be_v say_v by_o tertullian_n adoro_fw-la scripturae_fw-la plenitudinem_fw-la and_o by_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n apud_fw-la cyprianum_n adorabilia_fw-la scripturae_fw-la verba_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o isid_n pelusiot_n lib._n 1._o ep._n 136._o but_o to_o come_v to_o particular_n sect._n 22_o that_o place_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n do_v not_o necessary_o refer_v to_o the_o sacrament_n 1._o de_fw-fr sp._n l._n 3._o c._n 1._o answ_n but_o be_v it_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o eucharist_n he_o say_v no_o more_o than_o this_o that_o in_o these_o mystery_n we_o worship_v christ_n and_o consequent_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v not_o divide_v from_o he_o but_o he_o do_v not_o say_v that_o in_o adore_v the_o mystery_n we_o adore_v christ_n and_o as_o for_o saint_n augustine_n sect._n 23_o he_o propound_v the_o very_a same_o objection_n i_o fear_v say_v he_o to_o worship_v the_o earth_n lest_o he_o that_o make_v heaven_n and_o earth_n shall_v damn_v i_o for_o it_o thus_o fluctuate_a i_o turn_v to_o christ_n and_o here_o i_o find_v how_o the_o earth_n may_v be_v worship_v because_o flesh_n be_v of_o the_o earth_n now_o he_o take_v flesh_n upon_o he_o and_o give_v we_o his_o flesh_n to_o eat_v which_o no_o man_n eat_v nisi_fw-la prius_fw-la adoraverit_fw-la but_o he_o that_o have_v first_o adore_v viz._n christ_n as_o it_o follow_v cum_fw-la adoras_fw-la illum_fw-la that_o be_v when_o you_o worship_v he_o to_o wit_n christ_n let_v not_o the_o thought_n be_v of_o the_o flesh_n no_o you_o must_v not_o worship_v that_o alone_o but_o as_o conjoin_v with_o the_o deity_n do_v we_o eat_v that_o flesh_n that_o
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