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A64773 The devil the greatest sinner in the world, or, A reply to Thomas Powel, who calls himself a minister of the Gospel, yet affirms, Jesus Christ was the greatest sinner in the world by John Vaughton ... Vaughton, John, 1644-1712. 1676 (1676) Wing V158; ESTC R1102 20,220 28

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Meetings but the Spirit of Cain having entred him from whence his Fear comes which makes him to say he dare not go alone Now you Divines of his way consider whether Tho. Powel be a Gospel-Minister or a false Prophet and take his own Phrase run on the Devil's Errand But for our Foundation it stands sure notwithstanding his Attempts and the Skirmisher's too I have also taken Notice of a Marginal Note in Page 6. of his Book his Words are these Reader if thou believest that this Discourse passed between J. V. and my self thou must value his Memory at an high Rate but I am apt to think that his Memory is as fallible as yours and mine though he had the Confidence to tell me that he was perfect A Forger indeed I never told Tho. Powel that I was perfect he would insinuate into his Reader that the Discourse was feigned from his Supposition of the Fallibility of my Memory his Thoughts of the Fallibleness of my Memory is no Proof of the Discourse feigned and for the Fallibility of his Memory I have an Instance that he said I told him I was perfect which Words he never had from my Mouth for we preach not our selves but Christ Jesus and the Doctrine of Perfection is the Doctrine of Christ and they that oppose it are Anti-christ and the State of Sanctification through the Spirit of God I do believe is attainable on this Side the Grave for I do declare that I have no Faith in the Papist Purgatory though our Adversaries number us amongst them And in page 7. he notes me for a Lyar in saying he said Burn the Bible hear his Proof Mr Bye my Witness doth also attest that as far as he remembers I said no such Word but away with the Bible which was the Words I spoke I very well remember Must the fallible Memories of T. P. and his Witness go for a Proof and I from thence termed a Lyar no such Matter for I have a Witness that heard and can very well remember that T. P. said Burn the Bible more then once or twice And in page 10. he avoucheth That one of the Quakers Principles is that all except themselves shall be confounded and damned this he brings for the Vindication of his former Assertion that he had given in the Name of the Quakers in Answer to a young Man that put this Query Seeing you are but a People of about 25 Years standing and you say that your Way is the right Way what became of the People that dyed before you were a People they said T. P. believe they are all damned This he would not have imputed to his Envy and Malice but to his Judgment and that Judgment he saith is grounded from an underiable Consequence that resulteth from several Phrases scattered up and down in their own Books one that he mentions is this that their Way is the only Way Now how doth this prove that our Saying Christ Our Way is the only Way to be determined as our Belief that all that dyed before we were a People are damned for we do believe the Way of God which is but one was in all Generations and that there was a Remnant that walked in this Way and found Acceptance with him and this Way was and is Christ who is the true Light that lighteth every Man that cometh into the World and this Light is not Conscience as he would wickedly insinuate but it shines in the Hearts and Consciences of all the Sons and Daughters of Men to discover and make manifest those Things that are Evil and they that receive it in this its Manifestation come to know the Power and Sufficiency of him who said I am the Light of the World he that believes in me shall not abide in Darkness but shall have the Light of Life And my Adversary talks of several Quakers Books yet he sayes He hath but one Quakers Book in his Study i. e. a Catechism of G. F. and he sayes it 's to his Purpose he quotes it thus Quest Father Are Jews and Gentiles and Christians that do not believe in the Light that which doth enlighten every Man that cometh into the World all out of him who is the Life the Light of Men Answer Yea Child From these Words this passionate Man falls a railing and sayes It 's a Hellish Book and that the Principles contained in G. F 's Catechism are Principles that the Devil in Hell hath hatched ergo Soul-damning Principles Principles that are of the Devil 's making or hatching as he phrases it are Soul damning but that G. F's Words are of the Devil 's hatching that I deny for they are in themselves safe and sure for how can People be in him i. e. Christ the Light that lighteth every Man that cometh into the World and not believe in him and if not in him then out of him and this is no wayes to his Purpose as he said it was to prove that we believe that all were damned that were before we were a People or that our Principles are Soul-damning And now I come to my Adverversary perfect Confirmation of his Assertion as he calls it which seems to be very fictious but however hear it page 8. he saith For a perfect Confirmation of my Assertion viz. That the Quakers do hold that all who dye not in Belief of their Principles shall be damned see in this ensuing Relation that I shall stand by Once a Maiden-Acquaintance of mine was courted by a zealous Quaker who during the Time he was Suitor had prevailed with her to go with him to hear his Friends scil Quakers and that once or twice at last he demandeth of her how she liked them she answered worse and worse which occasioned him to break off from her and withall to say that if she heard any other she would certainly be damned Would T. P. and his Brethren have their Faith and Principles be concluded and determined Damnable from the Words of one Man Certainly no and that such an one as they have not so much as the Knowledge of his Name but this is perfect Confirmation as he calls it not to mention his imperfect Ones But I shall at this Time leave it amongst his Fly-blown Stuff And he tells his Reader He hath preached almost three Years for only Charges defrayed But I may take Leave to tell him that that doth not clear him from preaching for what he could get but if his Charges were so great every time he went into the Country as it was that Day he met with the Country-Priest he told me of and two of his Companions at a Tavern where after their Friendship threatned to kill him for preaching against the Papists and as they were going to have him to the Place of Execution which was upon a Bed he having about five Pounds in his Pocket as he himself related it tumbled out of which he said It was as the Ram that appeared for the saving
said that T. B. said to clear him though he could not remember the Word Imputation before yet he gave him his Hand freely and voluntarily The greater is his wickedness if it be so and he must bear his Burden Another Lie of John Vaughton's as he falsly terms it is in the 9th page of my Book where in I make use of William Farrinton's Name telling my Reader that he said T. P. was a Liar and that he had told many Lies about it though Thomas Powel counts this a Lie and saith William Farrinton denieth it yet I can prove it by a witness who heard him speak it and William Farrinton since hath given it under his Hand that T. P. hath spoken some Vntruths about it I would have this Equivocater to tell me what Difference there is between an Untruth and a Lye but he saith that William Farrinton said If he knew him to be a Liar which I question not but he doth yet he would not have told such as the Quakers What he means by such I need not much inquire but that he hath since T. P's Book was written told the Quakers that T. P. had spoken divers Vntruths about it so that I shall still note T. P. for a L The third thing that he charges upon me as a Lye is no Lye of mine the matter is this That W. F. upon sight of what T. P. had written said he would not stand by his Words for 10000. Worlds and that he should not preach in his Meeting-House till he had publickly condemned it did he publickly condemn it before he preacht no such matter then no Lye of mine but he saith Note And W. F. in whose meeting house he preacht did when he had done stand up and publickly condemn'd what T. P. brought in Vindication of his Doctrine out of Luther that I know that he condemned it in a Sermon He might be ashamed of his Confiidence if he is not past it for instead of condemning it he told the People he hoped he had proved that Evangelical Doctrine which was that Jesus Christ was the greatest Sinner in the World as he affirmed the People at that time being desired to turn to their proof to see whether he had done it many answered No nor never could but T. P. tells me he doth now condemn it as I in my Ignorance take it page 4. viz. That he was a Sinner Actually Why Ignorance It 's Blasphemy to affirm that Christ Jesus was a Sinner by Action or Imputation for though wicked men did say Christ was a Sinner yet they could not convince him of Sin and God doth not impute Christ a Sinner that never committed Sin and Christ cannot justly be imputed a Sinner except he had committed Sin for he only is a Sinner that committeth Sin which Christ never did therefore no Sinner by Action nor Imputation in God's account for it is evident that Sinners are out of a converted estate and are in Error as in James 5.20 Let him know that he that converteth a Sinner from the Error of his Way shall save a Soul from Death c. but Christ Jesus was never in Error therefore no Sinner for God is holy and pure forever and Christ Jesus is the Brightness of his Glory and the express Image of his Father's Substance c. Heb. 1.3 It is said Mat. 9.14 Christ came not to call the Righteous but Sinners to Repentance if Christ was the greatest Sinner in the World as T. P. hath affirmed then the greatest Sinner calls the lesser to Repentance which is absurd Again Rom. 5.8 God commended his Love to us in that whilest we were yet Sinners Christ died for us If Christ Jesus was the greatest Sinner in the World as T. P. hath affirmed then the greatest Sinner died for the lesser which is contrary to the Apostle Peter's Testimony as it 's recorded in 1 Pet. 3.18 Christ also hath suffered for Sin the Just for the Vnjust that he might bring many to God Again James 4.8 Cleanse your Hands ye Sinners and purifie your Hearts ye double minded So that by this Scripture it doth also appear that SINNERS are in an unclean Estate and have need of cleansing and if the lesser Sinners have Need much more the greatest for so T.P. hath affirmed Christ Jesus was And though he calls himself a Minster of the Gospel yet is he an Enemy to God and Christ also a Contradicter of plain Scripture Testimony and such is his Wickedness against us that when we have given our Belief of Christ Jesus and have confessed unto him in all his Manifestation both within and without in plain Words such as our Adversary confesses in themselves good yet unsavourily sayes he smells a Quakers Rat in them and he doth also avouch That all we say concerning Christ without is but a meer Equivocation vide page 10. of T. P 's Book and yet our Adversaries do confess though to the Contradiction of themselves that it is but a reasonable Thing for Persons to give their own Meanings to their own Words but this reasonable Thing we have not yet obtained from them The fourth Lye he charges John Vaughton with is his denying the Quakers to be no Christians The Quakers are Christians and Christ is the hope of their Glory and J. V. no Lyar in denying the contrary and T. P. saith the Quakers have been proved no Christians that I deny except such Quakers as have been of the Forger's making And for his terming Thomas Hicks an ingenuous Man for undertaking to prove the Quakers Hetrodox both in Principle and Practice is a vain Florish and an empty Boast for in undertaking that Work he has procured himself a Name that will certainly render him odious to Posterity and for his Pains and Labour therein he shall certainly have his Reward with the Lyars and Maker of Lyes in the Lake that burns with Fire and Brimstone except he repent But why doth T. P. say we are DUMB is it not because he is in Consusion for he tells his Reader that we drowned him with our Voice and T. H. may give him the Lye herein for doth he not know that the Quakers Voice hath been loud enough to prove him a Perverter a Lyar and a Forger The fifth Lye he charges me with is my denying that to be our Principle which he saith we have so often declared viz. Christ dyed only as an Example I deny that it is our Principle or that we have often declared that Christ died only as an Example for we do own and ever did that Jesus Christ was an Offering or a Sacrifice for Sin And he is the Propitiation for our Sins and not for ours only but for the Sins of the whole World 1 John 2.2 And for T. P's saying That the Quakers are conscious to themselves that they are no Christians is surely a Lye of his own coyning Now having cleared my self from his Lyes which he would have made mine I