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A48365 A reply to Sr. Thomas Manwaring's answer to my two books. Written by Sr. Peter Leycester, Baronet, anno Domini, 1675. The second reply. Together with the case of Amicia truly stated Leycester, Peter, Sir, 1614-1678. 1676 (1676) Wing L1944; ESTC R213614 31,564 110

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unto_o the_o heir_n of_o the_o say_v margaret_n see_v my_o historical_a antiquity_n pag._n 271._o whereas_o have_v those_o land_n be_v give_v to_o hawise_o in_o dower_n or_o jointure_n only_o she_o can_v but_o have_v enjoy_v they_o for_o herself_o and_o not_o to_o her_o heir_n but_o whether_o be_v the_o more_o proper_a interpretation_n thereof_o in_o this_o place_n let_v learned_a man_n judge_n i_o will_v not_o contend_v about_o it_o yet_o whereas_o pag._n 15._o sir_n thomas_n will_v have_v the_o reader_n to_o judge_v of_o my_o integrity_n because_o i_o do_v former_o interpret_v the_o word_n aforesaid_a to_o be_v understand_v of_o a_o jointure_n and_o now_o upon_o more_o serious_a deliberation_n conceive_v the_o same_o to_o be_v mean_v for_o a_o gift_n in_o free-marriage_n or_o a_o free_a gift_n in_o marriage_n have_v the_o word_n liberum_fw-la join_v with_o it_o i_o say_v it_o be_v hard_o to_o censure_v my_o integrity_n for_o it_o for_o that_o be_v well_o know_v to_o all_o the_o county_n where_o we_o both_o do_v live_v i_o shall_v make_v no_o comparison_n for_o those_o be_v odious_a and_o savour_v of_o arrogancy_n again_o sir_n thomas_n have_v commit_v another_o trip_v pag._n 10._o where_o he_o expound_v mr._n glanvil_n word_n when_o he_o speak_v of_o gift_n in_o frankmarriage_n cum_fw-la aliquâ_fw-la muliere_fw-la to_o be_v mean_v with_o some_o woman_n which_o word_n he_o misinterprete_v altogether_o for_o it_o be_v there_o mean_v with_o any_o woman_n not_o with_o some_o woman_n he_o have_v the_o same_o error_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o my_o answer_n pag._n 40_o pag._n 16_o 17._o of_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o two_o book_n here_o he_o say_v i_o tell_v he_o how_o he_o prove_v by_o compare_v the_o age_n of_o bertred_n that_o agatha_n can_v not_o be_v the_o daughter_n of_o the_o second_o william_n de_fw-fr ferrare_fw-la wherein_o say_v he_o i_o be_o pitiful_o mistake_v for_o he_o do_v go_v about_o no_o such_o thing_n but_o he_o do_v show_v pag._n 3_o 4_o 5._o that_o joan_n wife_n of_o lewellyn_n can_v not_o be_v the_o same_o joan_n which_o king_n john_n have_v by_o agatha_n my_o reply_n o_o pretty_a subterfuge_n have_v he_o any_o proof_n at_o all_o here_o that_o joan_n wife_n of_o lewellyn_n be_v not_o the_o same_o joan_n which_o king_n john_n have_v by_o agatha_n but_o all_o his_o proof_n there_o bottom_v on_o the_o age_n of_o bertred_n which_o can_v not_o allow_v agatha_n to_o be_v the_o daughter_n of_o the_o second_o william_n de_fw-fr ferrars_n by_o bertred_n daughter_n so_o as_o to_o suppose_v agatha_n to_o be_v old_a enough_o to_o have_v issue_n that_o joan_n by_o king_n john_n and_o that_o joan_n to_o be_v old_a enough_o to_o be_v wife_n of_o lewellyn_n anno._n 1204._o which_o be_v a_o false_a ground_n take_v from_o vincent_n but_o speed_n say_v agatha_n be_v daughter_n of_o robert_n de_fw-fr ferrars_n and_o i_o agree_v vincent_n to_o be_v mistake_v therein_o let_v i_o see_v he_o prove_v the_o princess_n of_o wales_n to_o be_v no_o daughter_n of_o agatha_n by_o king_n john_n what_o he_o say_v here_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n see_v my_o former_a reply_n p._n 18._o pag._n 22._o of_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o two_o book_n here_o after_o a_o long_a oration_n nothing_o at_o all_o material_a he_o tell_v we_o will_v any_o man_n think_v sir_n peter_n himself_o within_o a_o very_a few_o line_n will_v be_v guilty_a of_o the_o like_a offence_n which_o i_o unjust_o charge_v he_o withal_o and_o a_o little_a after_o sir_n peter_n will_v distinguish_v between_o maritagium_fw-la and_o maritagium_fw-la servitio_fw-la obnoxium_fw-la and_o say_v maritagium_fw-la be_v twofold_a but_o do_v not_o give_v the_o member_n of_o his_o distinction_n aright_o my_o reply_n here_o be_v two_o great_a trip_n more_o of_o sir_n thomas_n for_o i_o do_v neither_o charge_n he_o unjust_o with_o that_o distinction_n which_o any_o man_n may_v read_v in_o his_o book_n nor_o be_o
i_o guilty_a of_o the_o like_a offence_n as_o he_o say_v i_o be_o show_v i_o if_o he_o can_v where_o i_o go_v about_o any_o such_o a_o distinction_n as_o he_o here_o mention_v or_o say_v marriage_n be_v twofold_a and_o then_o give_v the_o member_n of_o my_o distinction_n so_o absurd_o as_o he_o there_o have_v do_v i_o wonder_v he_o be_v so_o disingenuous_a either_o to_o deny_v the_o one_o or_o affirm_v the_o other_o see_v his_o answer_n to_o my_o addenda_fw-la pag._n 7._o and_o my_o former_a reply_n thereunto_o pag._n 20_o 21._o i_o appeal_v to_o all_o reader_n and_o yet_o in_o the_o 19_o pag._n of_o this_o answer_n to_o my_o two_o book_n he_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v the_o want_n of_o my_o understanding_n which_o cause_v i_o to_o blame_v he_o for_o what_o he_o there_o so_o say_v and_o then_o run_v on_o in_o a_o long_a harangue_n to_o no_o purpose_n tell_v we_o that_o maritagium_fw-la servitio_fw-la obnoxium_fw-la be_v the_o elder_a brother_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 24._o of_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o two_o book_n here_o he_o say_v that_o i_o indeed_o do_v tell_v he_o that_o those_o manor_n budiford_n &_o suttehele_n be_v give_v to_o the_o say_v lewellyn_n in_o libero_fw-la maritagio_fw-la but_o the_o deed_n late_o belong_v to_o somerford_n oldfield_n esquire_n do_v prove_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o do_v only_o prove_v that_o the_o say_v lewellyn_n do_v mistake_v himself_o and_o do_v think_v that_o they_o be_v give_v he_o in_o free-marriage_n when_o they_o be_v not_o so_o give_v my_o reply_n oh_o fine_a a_o pretty_a answer_n indeed_o for_o though_o in_o the_o deed_n it_o be_v say_v sicut_fw-la dominus_fw-la johannes_n rex_fw-la ea_fw-la illi_fw-la dedit_fw-la in_o libero_fw-la maritagio_fw-la yet_o here_o say_v sir_n thomas_n lewellyn_n mistake_v himself_o and_o think_v it_o be_v so_o give_v when_o it_o be_v not_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o deed_n mihi_fw-la dedit_fw-la but_o illi_fw-la dedit_fw-la and_o by_o consequence_n can_v not_o be_v mistake_v by_o lewellyn_n only_o if_o it_o be_v mistake_v but_o by_o all_o other_o also_o then_o present_a and_o especial_o by_o the_o writer_n of_o the_o say_a deed_n but_o whether_o be_v lewellyn_n and_o the_o clerk_n that_o make_v the_o deed_n and_o all_o other_o then_o present_a more_o like_a to_o know_v the_o truth_n hereof_o then_o sir_n thomas_n now_o live_v 450._o year_n after_o that_o deed_n make_v every_o man_n may_v see_v the_o weakness_n of_o this_o answer_n sure_o this_o may_v stand_v for_o a_o trip_v with_o a_o derry-down_a but_o he_o have_v so_o many_o of_o they_o that_o i_o shall_v forget_v to_o count_v they_o all_o ere_o while_o pag._n 3._o when_o i_o be_o put_v hard_a to_o it_o say_v he_o than_o i_o say_v the_o roll_n be_v mis-writ_a very_o well_o but_o here_o he_o deny_v the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o deed_n and_o aver_v against_o a_o record_n and_o yet_o give_v no_o reason_n for_o it_o neither_o what_o follow_v pag._n 26_o 27_o 28_o 29._o be_v all_o tedious_a thing_n according_a to_o his_o custom_n and_o little_a or_o nothing_o to_o the_o point_n but_o pag._n 26._o and_o in_o other_o place_n elsewhere_o when_o any_o thing_n be_v say_v by_o he_o either_o not_o true_a or_o not_o to_o the_o point_n than_o it_o be_v my_o ignorance_n that_o run_v i_o upon_o mistake_n that_o i_o can_v fathom_v what_o he_o or_o the_o lawyer_n do_v say_v 1._o he_o say_v pag._n 26._o that_n if_o a_o man_n have_v land_n give_v in_o free_a marriage_n with_o a_o wife_n he_o have_v only_o custodiam_fw-la terrae_fw-la cum_fw-la uxore_fw-la and_o therefore_o can_v dispose_v of_o those_o land_n to_o any_o person_n from_o the_o right_a heir_n 2._o so_o pag._n 28_o 29._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o writ_n for_o the_o livery_n of_o budiford_n to_o lewellyn_n run_v in_o these_o word_n quod_fw-la johannes_n rex_fw-la ei_fw-la dedit_fw-la in_o maritagium_fw-la cum_fw-la johanna_n etc._n etc._n and_o say_v he_o livery_n will_v be_v needless_a in_o a_o gift_n of_o free-marriage_n and_o therefore_o conclude_v it_o must_v be_v only_o in_o maritagio_fw-la give_v not_o in_o libero_fw-la maritagio_fw-la and_o so_o lewellyn_n deed_n to_o john_n scot_n be_v mistake_v and_o be_v it_o what_o it_o will_v it_o will_v work_v nothing_o in_o this_o case_n my_o reply_n 1._o to_o the_o first_o for_o what_o he_o say_v that_o according_a to_o the_o ancient_a lawyer_n in_o those_o elder_a age_n that_o land_n give_v with_o a_o wife_n in_o free-marriage_n to_o a_o man_n the_o husband_n have_v only_o the_o custody_n of_o such_o land_n with_o his_o wife_n and_o therefore_o can_v dispose_v of_o any_o of_o those_o land_n to_o any_o person_n from_o the_o right_a heir_n by_o such_o a_o wife_n yet_o we_o see_v here_o that_o lewellyn_n do_v grant_v away_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la to_o john_n the_o scot_n budiford_n in_o free-marriage_n with_o helen_n his_o daughter_n about_o 1222._o which_o land_n king_n john_n give_v unto_o he_o in_o free-marriage_n with_o joan_n his_o daughter_n mother_n of_o the_o say_v helen_n by_o what_o 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dedimus_fw-la dilecto_fw-la filio_fw-la nostro_fw-la lewelino_n in_fw-la maritagio_fw-la filiae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la see_v sir_n thomas_n manwaring_n answer_v to_o my_o addenda_fw-la pag._n 6._o now_o maritagio_fw-la do_v as_o well_o include_v free_a marriage_n as_o not_o free-marriage_n according_a as_o the_o deed_n run_v pag._n 30._o of_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o two_o book_n here_o he_o say_v he_o think_v he_o can_v make_v good_a what_o he_o say_v of_o my_o partiality_n which_o yet_o he_o will_v not_o speak_v public_o and_o that_o i_o will_v not_o be_v excuse_v by_o that_o contradiction_n of_o i_o to_o wit_n that_o admit_v i_o be_v never_o so_o much_o partial_a in_o what_o he_o charge_v i_o with_o yet_o i_o hope_v what_o i_o have_v write_v he_o find_v it_o impartial_a to_o all_o so_o far_o as_o i_o go_v or_o know_v will_v this_o cure_v his_o uncivil_a expression_n towards_o i_o in_o another_o thing_n but_o he_o leave_v out_o these_o last_o word_n of_o i_o my_o reply_n let_v he_o 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