upon_o it_o as_o p._n 110._o 4._o by_o abuse_v his_o reader_n with_o a_o supposititious_a testimony_n of_o athanasius_n when_o the_o author_n from_o who_o he_o bring_v it_o own_v it_o to_o be_v forge_v p._n 37_o 38_o 39_o etc._n etc._n 5._o his_o egregious_a unfaithfulness_n in_o that_o notorious_a abuse_n he_o put_v upon_o osiander_n pretend_v that_o he_o certify_v several_a thing_n out_o of_o peter_n clumacenses_n against_o peter_n bruis_n belong_v to_o the_o 12._o cent._n when_o he_o know_v they_o to_o be_v the_o lie_a slander_n of_o the_o monk_n inquisitor_n against_o the_o albegois_n in_o the_o 13._o cent._n and_o of_o which_o he_o pick_v only_o 5._o particular_n out_o of_o 20._o as_o p._n 118._o to_o 123._o 6._o his_o abuse_n and_o mistranslate_n a_o passage_n out_o of_o cassander_n quite_o contrary_a to_o what_o he_o express_v false_o thereby_o accuse_v the_o minis_n for_o the_o very_a crime_n therein_o he_o acquit_v they_o p._n 160._o to_o 163._o 7._o his_o abuse_v erasmus_n tell_v we_o that_o he_o testifyes_n in_o his_o censure_n before_o origen_n homelye_v on_o the_o roman_n that_o it_o be_v jerom_n version_n and_o not_o ruffinus_n and_o that_o jeroms_n preface_n be_v prefix_v thereto_o whereas_o erasmus_n say_v the_o quite_o contrary_a in_o both_o viz._n first_o that_o it_o do_v appear_v to_o be_v ruffinus_n be_v and_o not_o jerom_n and_o 2_o that_o the_o say_a preface_n be_v a_o cheat_n of_o the_o book_n seller_n and_o none_o of_o jerom_n as_o p._n 86._o 8._o his_o abuse_v his_o reader_n by_o a_o quotation_n from_o vicecome_v as_o though_o he_o testify_v that_o till_o luther_n time_n none_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n when_o he_o do_v the_o quite_o contrary_a in_o the_o same_o place_n give_v a_o account_n of_o so_o many_o before_o luther_n that_o do_v it_o viz._n vincentius_n victor_n hinemarus_fw-la the_o henrici_fw-la and_o apostolici_fw-la wickliff_n strabo_n vives_z etc._n etc._n as_o p._n 127._o 9_o by_o further_o abuse_v the_o reader_n in_o tell_v he_o that_o rainarius_n in_o his_o catalogue_n of_o the_o waldensian_a error_n give_v not_o in_o their_o deny_v of_o infant_n baptism_n as_o a_o great_a argument_n they_o be_v for_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o monk_n inquisitor_n employ_v to_o that_o end_n when_o he_o do_v it_o express_o in_o totidem_fw-la verbis_fw-la as_o p._n 125._o 10._o his_o double_a deal_n about_o dr._n tailor_n argument_n against_o infant_n baptism_n in_o his_o liberty_n of_o prophecy_n suggest_v as_o though_o dr._n taylor_n himself_o and_o dr._n hammond_n have_v refute_v they_o whereas_o they_o suppose_v most_o of_o they_o to_o remain_v good_a against_o those_o common_a plea_n for_o infant_n baptism_n but_o do_v not_o undertake_v to_o answer_v they_o because_o many_o of_o those_o argument_n usual_o bring_v by_o paedobaptist_n be_v not_o good_a in_o themselves_o p._n 52._o four_o fearful_a ositanacy_n or_o heedlessness_n repeat_v my_o word_n true_o in_o one_o place_n and_o yet_o afterward_o father_v the_o quite_o contrary_a upon_o i_o as_o p._n 32._o five_o notorious_o partial_a in_o his_o answer_n all_o the_o book_n through_o reply_v to_o some_o thing_n he_o judge_v weak_a and_o leave_v other_o unanswered_a and_o yet_o vaunt_v over_o the_o whole_a as_o for_o instance_n in_o the_o 4._o cent._n i_o give_v the_o say_n of_o 10_o father_n for_o adult_n baptism_n he_o reply_n only_o to_o 4._o of_o they_o say_v not_o a_o word_n to_o the_o rest_n and_o yet_o conclude_v against_o they_o all_o as_o p._n 6._o etc._n etc._n so_o in_o like_a manner_n as_o to_o the_o 10._o instance_n give_v from_o the_o most_o eminent_a man_n not_o baptize_v till_o age_a though_o the_o child_n of_o christian_a parent_n reply_n only_o to_o 4._o and_o not_o a_o word_n to_o the_o other_o 6._o and_o yet_o conclude_v against_o they_o all_o as_o though_o he_o have_v particular_o answer_v to_o they_o as_o p._n 11._o to_o 15._o though_o his_o reply_n as_o you_o will_v find_v be_v as_o insignificant_a in_o both_o as_o his_o silence_n and_o further_o i_o produce_v 3._o council_n in_o the_o 4._o cent._n for_o the_o same_o to_o which_o he_o weak_o reply_n he_o can_v produce_v 3_o time_n ten_o counsel_n for_o infant_n baptism_n viz._n in_o after_o centurye_n when_o by_o popish_a councll_n it_o be_v injoind_v and_o impose_v as_o p._n 10._o and_o again_o i_o quote_v spanhaemius_n and_o osiander_n to_o prove_v a_o thing_n he_o take_v notice_n only_o of_o spanhaemius_n that_o speak_v to_o part_v but_o not_o to_o osiander_n that_o speak_v to_o the_o whole_a and_o yet_o reprove_v i_o for_o my_o mistake_n as_o p._n 148._o etc._n etc._n and_o further_o he_o allow_v but_o two_o witness_n for_o believer_n baptism_n only_o viz_o boemus_n and_o srabo_n and_o yet_o leave_v multitude_n of_o they_o unexcepted_a against_o &_o unreplyd_v to_o as_o p._n 2._o etc._n etc._n in_o like_a manner_n except_v against_o but_o 6._o of_o above_o 40._o particular_a witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o yet_o allow_v but_o 2._o viz._n hincâ—â—arus_n and_o adrianus_n as_o p._n 104_o 105._o and_o again_o i_o quote_v eleven_o several_a church_n deny_v infant_n baptism_n he_o exceps_fw-la only_o against_o 3_o say_v nothing_o to_o all_o the_o rest_n yet_o own_v none_o of_o they_o p._n 17._o six_o the_o inveteracy_n of_o spirit_n testify_v all_o along_o both_o against_o the_o professor_n and_o profession_n itself_o of_o beleiver_n baptism_n only_o especial_o in_o his_o rail_n and_o false_a accusation_n from_o p._n 145._o to_o 171._o as_o for_o my_o epitomize_v and_o repeat_v some_o of_o mr_n tomb_n his_o argument_n and_o not_o always_o mention_v his_o name_n which_o he_o call_v plaigiarisme_n i_o do_v confess_v in_o that_o my_o collection_n i_o have_v not_o so_o punctual_o mention_v all_o our_o own_o party_n from_o book_n to_o book_n wherein_o except_o in_o the_o historical_a part_n i_o do_v little_o more_o than_o bring_v to_o remembrance_n in_o a_o new_a method_n for_o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o present_a age_n what_o have_v heretofore_o in_o large_a treatise_n be_v write_v upon_o this_o subject_n which_o i_o think_v be_v usual_a in_o polemical_a writing_n &_o if_o i_o mistake_v not_o mr_n sydnham_n do_v the_o same_o thing_n without_o mention_v of_o name_n from_o who_o the_o argument_n be_v bring_v which_o may_v be_v endless_a and_o if_o i_o have_v be_v thereby_o injurious_a to_o any_o i_o beg_v their_o pardon_n i_o be_o sure_a i_o have_v not_o be_v so_o to_o the_o truth_n but_o herein_o i_o conceive_v mr_n will_v his_o have_v not_o deal_v fair_o one_a to_o reprove_v i_o for_o the_o same_o thing_n he_o do_v himself_o for_o i_o can_v draw_v parallel_n too_o upon_o he_o if_o i_o will_v be_v troublesome_a and_o impertinent_a and_o 2_o to_o avoid_v answer_v the_o force_n of_o the_o argument_n upon_o pretence_n they_o be_v another_o not_o my_o own_o which_o i_o conceive_v savour_v little_a of_o ingenuity_n and_o will_v scarce_o go_v for_o current_n pay_v it_o be_v true_a it_o must_v be_v own_v that_o mr_n tomb_n how_o much_o soever_o slight_v by_o m._n will_v his_o though_o in_o some_o thing_n very_o different_a from_o most_o that_o own_o this_o way_n have_v do_v very_o worthy_o in_o this_o controversy_n &_o be_v a_o eminent_a instrument_n that_o god_n raise_v up_o among_o the_o learned_a to_o plead_v and_o defend_v that_o despise_a truth_n &_o who_o learned_a labour_n and_o unanswered_a book_n do_v witness_n for_o he_o in_o the_o gate_n though_o m._n will_v his_o be_v please_v so_o ignorant_o to_o vaunt_v it_o &_o tell_v we_o in_o his_o epistle_n that_o the_o argument_n for_o believer_n against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v a_o parcel_n of_o trite_a overworn_a thing_n a_o nauseous_a cram_n or_o repartition_n of_o old_a rout_v argument_n that_o have_v be_v in_o effect_n trample_v upon_o and_o confute_v again_o and_o again_o though_o his_o antipaedobaptism_a in_o 3_o part_n contain_v near_o as_o i_o judge_v 1500._o page_n in_o quarto_fw-la reply_v to_o what_o have_v be_v write_v by_o above_o 20_o several_a person_n be_v all_o of_o they_o if_o i_o be_o not_o misinform_v unreply_v to_o to_o this_o day_n and_o further_a i_o must_v inform_v the_o reader_n that_o have_v any_o modest_a endeavour_n prevail_v these_o thing_n have_v more_o private_o without_o this_o trouble_n the_o world_n be_v rectifyd_v between_o mr_n will_v his_o and_o i_o but_o he_o have_v as_o he_o tell_v we_o receive_v from_o the_o learned_a his_o album_fw-la calculum_fw-la or_o approbation_n will_v not_o by_o any_o mean_n be_v stop_v in_o his_o career_n for_o the_o suppose_a victory_n and_o glory_n and_o how_o far_o he_o have_v merit_v that_o high_a encomium_n give_v by_o his_o imprimatur_fw-la m._n b._n in_o his_o epistle_n recommendatory_a be_v to_o be_v consider_v who_o tell_v we_o that_o much_o thanks_o be_v due_a to_o he_o the_o
say_v he_o be_v false_a for_o he_o himself_o add_v the_o word_n only_o as_o be_v show_v he_o say_v ch_z 7._o part_n 1._o p._n 2._o charge_v 3._o falshood_n charge_v where_o he_o again_o repeat_v it_o say_v that_o the_o magdeburg_n in_o century_n 1._o l._n 2._o c._n 6._o p._n 496._o do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n baptize_v only_o the_o adult_n and_o again_o in_o his_o pag._n 38._o mention_v my_o repetition_n of_o that_o aforesaid_a say_n of_o the_o magdeburg_n give_v the_o follow_a return_n very_o good_a sir_n now_o you_o have_v learned_a to_o set_v down_o thing_n right_a but_o why_o do_v you_o say_v in_o the_o 56._o of_o the_o first_o impression_n that_o the_o magdeburg_n as_o to_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o this_o age_n they_o only_o baptize_v the_o adult_n be_v this_o say_v he_o lapsus_fw-la calami_fw-la aut_fw-la mentis_fw-la the_o slip_n of_o the_o tongue_n or_o the_o mind_n answer_v ∣_o ed._n 1_o to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v most_o manifest_a that_o this_o injurious_a man_n do_v charge_v a_o falsehood_n of_o his_o own_o make_n upon_o i_o three_o several_a time_n for_o he_o can_v find_v no_o such_o word_n in_o my_o book_n my_o word_n be_v express_o thus_o viz._n as_o to_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n they_o viz._n the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o this_o age_n they_o find_v they_o baptise_a only_a the_o adult_n or_o age_a etc._n etc._n i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o this_o age_n they_o baptise_a only_o the_o adult_n these_o be_v his_o word_n but_o that_o they_o tell_v we_o they_o find_v they_o baptize_v only_o the_o adult_n for_o so_o they_o tell_v we_o they_o find_v example_n for_o the_o one_o not_o for_o the_o other_o and_o if_o i_o have_v not_o guess_v right_o let_v any_o sober_a man_n in_o his_o sense_n judge_v they_o tell_v we_o in_o these_o word_n bapt_n zatos_fw-la esse_fw-la adultos_fw-la tum_fw-la judaeos_fw-la tum_fw-la geâ—tâ—s_fw-la exempla_fw-la pâ—obunt_fw-la act._n 2.8_o 10_o 16_o 19_o de_fw-fr infantibus_fw-la baptizatis_fw-la quidem_fw-la anotata_fw-la nom_fw-fr leguntur_fw-la that_o example_n testify_v from_o the_o aforesaid_a scripture_n that_o the_o adult_n both_o jew_n and_o gentile_n be_v baptize_v but_o of_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n they_o read_v not_o of_o one_o example_n upon_o record_n so_o that_o if_o they_o find_v many_o example_n for_o the_o one_o and_o none_o for_o the_o other_o well_o it_o may_v be_v say_v they_o find_v example_n only_o for_o the_o one_o viz._n for_o the_o adultâ—_n answer_v ∣_o ed._n two_o for_o they_o be_v not_o my_o translation_n of_o the_o word_n and_o therefore_o i_o add_v not_o the_o word_n only_a to_o they_o as_o he_o false_o suggest_v but_o my_o fence_n upon_o those_o their_o word_n and_o no_o other_o than_o i_o presume_v every_o one_o will_v give_v and_o wherein_o his_o shameful_a oscitancy_n as_o he_o call_v it_o or_o heedlessness_n be_v the_o more_o to_o be_v remark_v for_o he_o himself_o in_o his_o first_o word_n of_o the_o 7._o chap._n 1._o part_n do_v repeat_v my_o word_n as_o i_o express_v they_o viz._n that_o they_o find_v only_o the_o adult_n or_o age_a whether_o jew_n or_o gentile_n baptize_v in_o that_o century_n and_o afterward_o charge_v i_o three_o time_n over_o with_o the_o say_n a_o other_o thing_n inculcate_v it_o with_o many_o agrivate_a circumstance_n and_o as_o worthy_a of_o the_o great_a observation_n put_v it_o in_o the_o van_n of_o the_o falsehood_n and_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o thing_n that_o i_o meet_v with_o from_o a_o friend_n that_o be_v in_o his_o bookseller_n shop_n where_o some_o minister_n be_v hear_v to_o say_v upon_o the_o read_n thereof_o that_o i_o want_v morality_n in_o so_o deal_v with_o author_n though_o true_o if_o i_o have_v say_v the_o word_n i_o do_v no_o know_v where_o such_o a_o heinous_a crime_n have_v lie_v so_o that_o this_o be_v plain_a to_o you_o that_o first_o i_o neither_o say_v those_o word_n nor_o second_o do_v i_o add_v the_o word_n only_o to_o the_o author_n in_o the_o next_o place_n in_o his_o preface_n he_o tell_v we_o of_o two_o other_o misrepresentation_n viz._n that_o i_o say_v the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n in_o water_n be_v change_v into_o sprinkle_v a_o little_a water_n in_o the_o face_n in_o the_o first_o century_n whereas_o there_o be_v not_o as_o he_o say_v the_o least_o hint_n of_o this_o matter_n in_o this_o century_n nor_o the_o follow_v but_o the_o contrary_a for_o they_o tell_v we_o as_o pag._n 4._o part_n 1._o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v abluo_fw-la luo_o viz._n to_o wash_v and_o that_o the_o christian_a baptism_n be_v take_v from_o the_o jewish_a wash_n of_o which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v heb._n 9_o 10._o divers_a baptism_n and_o so_o say_v he_o the_o author_n father_n that_o upon_o the_o century_n writer_n which_o they_o speak_v not_o wherein_o these_o two_o falsehood_n be_v charge_v upon_o i_o first_o in_o bring_v the_o magâ—eburgs_n charge_v 3._o falshood_n charge_v to_o assert_v the_o ceremony_n of_o baptism_n to_o be_v by_o dip_v which_o they_o do_v not_o but_o the_o contrary_n second_o in_o affirm_v that_o they_o say_v charge_v 4._o falshood_n charge_v the_o rite_n be_v change_v in_o that_o century_n from_o dip_v to_o sprinkle_v when_o there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o hint_n either_o in_o this_o or_o the_o follow_a century_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n answer_v ∣_o ed._n 3_o to_o the_o first_o that_o i_o be_o not_o mistake_v when_o i_o tell_v you_o that_o they_o do_v assert_v the_o rite_n of_o baptise_v to_o be_v by_o dip_v let_v their_o own_o word_n determine_v the_o substance_n whereof_o i_o before_o give_v you_o who_o have_v tell_v we_o viz._n the_o magdeburg_n century_n 1._o chap._n 6._o p._n 148._o that_o as_o to_o the_o place_n of_o baptism_n it_o be_v as_o occasion_n be_v offer_v in_o river_n and_o fountain_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o the_o manner_n of_o it_o be_v by_o dip_v in_o these_o word_n viz._n ministrum_fw-la baptismi_fw-la in_o aquam_fw-la baptizandos_fw-la immersisse_fw-la seu_fw-la lavasse_fw-la in_fw-la nomine_fw-la patri_fw-la &_o filii_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la probat_fw-la verbum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la immersionem_fw-la in_o aquam_fw-la significat_fw-la &_o quoth_v paulus_n immersionem_fw-la illam_fw-la allegorice_n de_fw-fr mortificatione_n &_o resurrectione_n exponit_fw-la rom._n 6._o col._n 2._o et_fw-la phrase_n ille_fw-la quibus_fw-la baptismus_fw-la lavacrum_fw-la dicitur_fw-la eph._n 5_o &_o titus_n 3_o et_fw-la quod_fw-la ananias_n jubet_fw-la paulum_fw-la abluere_fw-la peccatum_fw-la act._n 22._o etc._n etc._n that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v a_o immersion_n or_o dip_v in_o water_n prove_v that_o the_o minister_n of_o baptism_n do_v dip_v or_o immerge_n the_o baptise_a wash_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n and_o that_o paul_n do_v expound_v this_o immersion_n by_o the_o alligorical_a death_n and_o resurrection_n rom._n 6._o and_o col._n 2._o and_o therefore_o baptism_n be_v call_v the_o lavar_n or_o wash_v of_o regeneration_n ephes_n 5._o and_o tit._n 3._o and_o that_o ananias_n command_v paul_n to_o wash_v away_o his_o sin_n the_o truth_n hereof_o master_n will_n can_v not_o but_o know_v and_o no_o other_o than_o i_o do_v before_o in_o substance_n declare_v and_o therefore_o for_o he_o to_o say_v that_o they_o do_v not_o say_v this_o but_o the_o contrary_a be_v to_o i_o wonderful_a strange_a neither_o do_v they_o mention_v any_o thing_n of_o all_o those_o ten_o line_n of_o his_o say_v to_o be_v in_o this_o place_n as_o though_o they_o take_v the_o word_n to_o signify_v wash_v in_o opposition_n to_o dip_v and_o if_o in_o any_o other_o part_n of_o the_o book_n they_o do_v say_v so_o it_o will_v but_o discover_v a_o contradiction_n to_o themselves_o but_o especial_o to_o the_o truth_n that_o with_o so_o much_o evidence_n they_o have_v here_o demonstrate_v therefore_o what_o apparent_a injury_n this_o be_v let_v all_o man_n judge_v answer_v ∣_o ed._n 4_o and_o as_o to_o the_o other_o it_o be_v as_o notorious_a as_o this_o for_o i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n be_v change_v into_o sprinkle_v etc._n etc._n this_o century_n as_o he_o father_n upon_o i_o all_o that_o i_o say_v be_v this_o and_o they_o be_v my_o own_o word_n not_o they_o after_o i_o have_v mention_v their_o understanding_n of_o that_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n and_o usage_n thereof_o in_o scripture_n viz._n which_o say_v custom_n of_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n in_o water_n be_v change_v into_o sprinkle_v a_o little_a water_n
of_o their_o own_o party_n surety_n magd._n against_o surety_n the_o magdeburg_n century_n 1._o p._n 497._o do_v tell_v we_o that_o godfathers_n or_o fidejussor_n for_o infant_n or_o other_o they_o find_v nothing_o of_o in_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o the_o second_o of_o the_o act_n they_o offer_v themselves_o to_o baptism_n &_o that_o it_o will_v be_v very_o ridiculous_a to_o think_v the_o apostle_n will_v baptise_v none_o without_o surety_n and_o doctor_n tayler_n pag._n 84._o i_o know_v say_v he_o reason_n dr._n tailor_n against_o surety_n and_o his_o reason_n god_n may_v if_o he_o will_v have_v appoint_v godfathers_n to_o give_v answer_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o child_n and_o to_o be_v fidejussor_n for_o they_o but_o we_o can_v find_v any_o authority_n or_o ground_n that_o he_o have_v and_o if_o he_o have_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v he_o will_v have_v give_v they_o commission_n to_o have_v transact_v the_o solemnity_n with_o better_a circumstance_n and_o have_v give_v answer_n with_o more_o truth_n for_o the_o question_n be_v ask_v of_o believe_v in_o the_o present_a and_o if_o the_o godfather_n answer_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o child_n i_o do_v believe_v it_o be_v notorious_a they_o speak_v false_a and_o ridiculous_a for_o the_o infant_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o believe_v and_o if_o it_o be_v he_o be_v also_o capable_a of_o dissent_v and_o how_o then_o do_v they_o know_v his_o mind_n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o tertullian_n and_o gregory_n nazienzen_n give_v advice_n that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n shall_v be_v defer_v till_o they_o can_v give_v a_o account_n of_o their_o own_o faith_n if_o you_o will_v be_v further_o satisfy_v about_o these_o surety_n or_o gossip_n why_o and_o for_o what_o use_n viz._n for_o bell_n and_o church_n and_o grow_v person_n as_o infant_n read_v pag._n 84._o 100_o 128_o 129_o and_o 141._o object_n 2_o but_o if_o you_o will_v not_o admit_v of_o godfathers_n what_o do_v you_o say_v to_o father_n why_o may_v not_o they_o repent_v and_o believe_v for_o the_o child_n and_o so_o answer_v the_o commission_n especial_o be_v a_o believe_a parent_n and_o in_o covenant_n according_a to_o what_o mr._n will_n repeat_v from_o mr._n calvin_n p._n answer_n to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o if_o you_o betake_v to_o that_o you_o quit_v all_o your_o ancient_a authority_n that_o depend_v upon_o surety_n where_o the_o parent_n be_v express_o forbid_v that_o rite_n none_o be_v permit_v to_o undertake_v for_o his_o child_n neither_o father_n nor_o mother_n as_o vicecome_v tell_v we_o at_o large_a from_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o counsel_n ch_n 33._o p._n 92._o mr._n baxter_n own_v it_o against_o the_o canon-law_n also_o neither_o will_v you_o find_v one_o syllabe_n in_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o relieve_v you_o and_o therefore_o must_v either_o find_v out_o a_o new_a commission_n for_o baptise_v â—_z without_o personal_a repentance_n &_o faith_n or_o renounce_v the_o practice_n of_o sprinkle_v infant_n that_o be_v so_o uncapable_a to_o do_v any_o thing_n thereof_o and_o which_o case_n you_o have_v very_o full_o and_o honest_o put_v by_o master_n baxter_n in_o his_o christian_a directory_n pag._n 817._o and_o how_o well_o resolve_v you_o have_v it_o remark_v pag._n 217._o and_o worthy_a of_o your_o perusal_n upon_o this_o point_n especial_o it_o be_v bring_v herein_o into_o such_o a_o narrow_a compass_n for_o if_o no_o scripture_n ground_n to_o baptize_v a_o infant_n by_o a_o gossio_n or_o parent_n faith_n and_o confession_n than_o infant_n baptism_n be_v certain_o a_o nullity_n and_o out_o of_o door_n by_o their_o own_o grant_n and_o therefore_o till_o mr._n baxter_n or_o some_o body_n else_o give_v we_o a_o better_a solution_n in_o that_o case_n of_o conscience_n we_o may_v say_v in_o his_o own_o word_n that_o for_o person_n to_o be_v baptize_v without_o a_o profess_a contract_n â—_z be_v a_o baptism_n not_o of_o christ_n appointment_n and_o that_o be_v do_v without_o repentance_n and_o faith_n be_v a_o profanation_n say_v mr._n baxter_n and_o ridiculous_a say_v calvin_n now_o therefore_o upon_o the_o whole_a let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o my_o several_a proof_n be_v not_o full_a proper_a and_o pertinent_a and_o whether_o mr._n will_v upon_o the_o close_n of_o his_o seven_o chapter_n respect_v my_o proof_n upon_o the_o century_n have_v speak_v like_o a_o judicious_a sober_a considerate_a person_n in_o say_v that_o beside_o jo._n boemus_n and_o strabo_n he_o may_v true_o say_v that_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o century_n to_o the_o end_n this_o unfaithful_a man_n have_v pervert_v the_o say_n of_o all_o author_n which_o he_o have_v quote_v and_o upon_o consideration_n of_o his_o carriage_n herein_o i_o be_o confident_a of_o those_o two_o thing_n first_o that_o never_o any_o writer_n do_v more_o prevaricate_v and_o show_v more_o falsehood_n than_o he_o have_v do_v second_o that_o he_o will_v certain_o have_v forbear_v if_o he_o have_v think_v any_o man_n will_v have_v be_v at_o the_o trouble_n to_o examine_v and_o search_v whether_o he_o say_v truth_n or_o no._n i_o say_v it_o be_v refer_v to_o judgement_n charge_v my_o appeal_n upon_o the_o proof_n and_o the_o prevarication_n charge_v whether_o any_o sober_a man_n can_v judge_v mr._n will_n have_v read_v the_o book_n he_o so_o contem_n vehement_o asperse_v and_o inveigh_v against_o or_o second_o if_o he_o have_v whether_o he_o do_v consider_v what_o be_v either_o write_v by_o the_o author_n or_o by_o himself_o in_o answer_n and_o three_o if_o so_o whether_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v esteem_v a_o person_n extreme_o void_a of_o reason_n or_o conscience_n and_o that_o prejudice_n do_v more_o prevail_v with_o he_o then_o impartial_a judgement_n second_o concern_v the_o falsehood_n he_o charge_v i_o with_o falsehood_n 2._o the_o falsehood_n but_o in_o the_o next_o place_n if_o it_o be_v suppose_v the_o authority_n aforesaid_a be_v full_a and_o proper_a and_o that_o i_o be_o acquit_v of_o the_o prevaricatione_n yet_o what_o do_v i_o say_v to_o so_o many_o falsehood_n charge_v upon_o i_o in_o the_o egregious_a abuse_n put_v upon_o so_o many_o author_n in_o leave_v out_o and_o curtail_v some_o of_o their_o say_n and_o add_v to_o otâ—ers_n pretend_v they_o say_v that_o which_o they_o do_v not_o and_o so_o make_v authority_n of_o my_o own_o the_o chapter_n and_o page_n be_v so_o punctual_o give_v in_o against_o i_o answer_v 1_o to_o which_o i_o say_v first_o it_o seem_v to_o carry_v much_o weight_n in_o it_o and_o the_o rather_o because_o it_o proceed_v from_o one_o that_o profess_v himself_o a_o solid_a grave_a person_n a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o master_n of_o art_n and_o a_o learned_a man_n and_o one_o that_o beside_o have_v spend_v so_o much_o time_n late_o as_o he_o tell_v we_o in_o the_o university_n library_n at_o oxford_n to_o trace_v these_o quotation_n and_o to_o detect_v their_o error_n &_o deliver_v they_o with_o so_o much_o certainty_n that_o nothing_o as_o in_o that_o confident_a boast_n he_o express_v it_o but_o a_o index_n expurgatorius_fw-la can_v relieve_v i_o and_o which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v have_v in_o england_n answer_v 2_o and_o second_o i_o must_v needs_o grant_v that_o if_o i_o acquit_v not_o myself_o herein_o i_o may_v very_o well_o be_v esteem_v the_o unworthy_a person_n that_o he_o will_v indeed_o render_v i_o to_o be_v that_o be_v guilty_a of_o so_o much_o prevarication_n forgery_n and_o falsehood_n answer_v 3_o but_o then_o three_o i_o hope_v it_o will_v be_v grant_v on_o the_o other_o hand_n that_o if_o all_o these_o prove_v forgery_n of_o his_o own_o and_o no_o truth_n in_o any_o one_o of_o they_o that_o then_o such_o a_o stratagem_n bespeak_v no_o less_o malignity_n to_o my_o person_n then_o to_o the_o truth_n witness_v by_o i_o and_o that_o he_o have_v just_o contract_v to_o himself_o the_o odium_n and_o infamy_n he_o will_v reflect_v upon_o i_o according_a to_o the_o equal_a decision_n give_v we_o in_o the_o case_n deut._n 19.16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o 20_o 21._o prov._n 19.15_o therefore_o to_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o charge_n i_o free_o join_v issue_n with_o he_o in_o order_n to_o the_o speedy_a trial_n at_o who_o door_n the_o falsehood_n lie_v for_o one_o of_o we_o it_o must_v be_v agree_v on_o all_o hand_n be_v notorious_o guilty_a and_o so_o we_o shall_v proceed_v to_o the_o particular_n as_o we_o find_v they_o in_o order_n the_o first_o whereof_o he_o thus_o begin_v with_o charge_v 1._o falshood_n charge_v in_o his_o preface_n etc._n etc._n he_o have_v much_o injure_v the_o famous_a history_n of_o the_o magdeburgenses_n in_o very_a many_o place_n by_o misrepresent_v what_o they_o say_v as_o that_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o the_o first_o century_n the_o apostle_n baptize_v only_o the_o age_a which_o
perfect_a invention_n wherein_o these_o father_n do_v so_o much_o abound_v only_o that_o sprinkle_n be_v not_o the_o rite_n and_o that_o dip_v be_v own_v to_o be_v the_o custom_n in_o these_o first_o time_n which_o mr._n will_n will_v not_o admit_v second_o charge_v 7._o falshood_n charge_v he_o charge_v i_o to_o pervert_v the_o say_n of_o athanasius_n as_o when_o speak_v for_o adult_n baptism_n he_o may_v not_o be_v for_o infant_n baptism_n also_o whereas_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o former_a only_a pagan_n and_o infidel_n who_o according_a to_o christ_n commission_n must_v first_o be_v teach_v then_o baptize_v athanasius_n say_v he_o be_v for_o infant_n baptism_n and_o it_o be_v practise_v in_o his_o day_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o 114_o question_n to_o antiochus_n where_o he_o resolve_v a_o doubt_n that_o may_v arise_v from_o the_o death_n of_o infant_n whether_o they_o go_v to_o heaven_n or_o no_o see_v the_o lord_n say_v suffer_v little_a child_n to_o come_v to_o i_o for_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o the_o apostle_n say_v now_o your_o child_n be_v holy_a it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n which_o be_v baptize_v do_v as_o unspotted_a and_o faithful_a enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n where_o say_v he_o mark_v again_o how_o unworthly_a antipaedobatist_n abuse_v the_o father_n in_o say_v their_o strong_a argument_n for_o child_n baptism_n be_v from_o tradition_n which_o they_o fly_v too_o for_o want_v of_o scripture_n imply_v here_o be_v two_o scripture_n for_o infant_n baptism_n improve_v by_o this_o father_n one_o mat._n 19.14_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o the_o other_o because_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v baptize_v they_o be_v therefore_o holy_a allure_a to_o holiness_n of_o child_n mention_v by_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 7.14_o as_o though_o that_o be_v obtain_v by_o baptism_n and_o which_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_n also_o answer_v ∣_o ed._n 7_o to_o which_o i_o say_v &_o be_v not_o this_o excellent_o remark_v from_o this_o famous_a instance_n and_o anabaptist_n unworthiness_n too_o in_o take_v no_o more_o regard_n how_o well_o they_o prove_v infant_n baptism_n of_o old_a from_o the_o scripture_n but_o now_o this_o book_n of_o question_n father_v upon_o athanasius_n prove_v such_o a_o other_o fable_n as_o that_o goodly_a piece_n that_o be_v father_v upon_o dionysius_n it_o will_v only_o serve_v further_a to_o discover_v what_o invention_n the_o father_n of_o lie_n have_v by_o the_o work_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n not_o only_o to_o beget_v and_o usher_v in_o but_o to_o nurish_v and_o strengthen_v this_o illegetimate_a birth_n but_o the_o artifice_n also_o he_o have_v to_o time_n the_o several_a forgery_n viz_o dionysius_n for_o the_o first_o the_o pope_n decretal_n and_o justin_n martyr_n response_n for_o the_o second_o origen_n story_n for_o the_o three_o these_o question_n of_o athanasius_n for_o the_o four_o age._n and_o how_o ready_a and_o willing_a person_n be_v to_o this_o very_a time_n to_o catch_v up_o any_o of_o these_o lie_a fable_n to_o strengthen_v themselves_o in_o deceit_n nay_o there_o be_v good_a ground_n to_o believe_v that_o they_o know_v they_o so_o to_o be_v that_o so_o abuse_v the_o world_n therewith_o for_o how_o can_v mr._n will_n that_o be_v so_o well_o read_v in_o the_o magdeburg_n be_v ignorant_a how_o notable_o they_o have_v detect_v this_o cheat_n and_o the_o reason_n and_o ground_n they_o give_v of_o its_o spuriousness_n and_o therefore_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v so_o much_o worse_o in_o he_o to_o impose_v this_o fallacy_n a_o fresh_a and_o so_o to_o improve_v it_o too_o as_o though_o it_o be_v a_o piece_n of_o gospel_n know_v therefore_o beside_o what_o merningus_n and_o montanus_n say_v of_o its_o forgery_n of_o which_o i_o give_v you_o a_o hint_n pag._n 57_o whereof_o mr._n will_n will_v take_v no_o notice_n and_o what_o scultetus_n as_o mr._n tomb_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o medul_n pat._n p._n 2._o l._n 1._o c._n 42._o say_v of_o it_o also_o the_o magdeburg_n do_v give_v we_o this_o account_n which_o i_o presume_v mr._n will_n can_v tell_v you_o as_o well_o as_o myself_o be_v so_o considerable_a a_o remark_n in_o the_o history_n of_o athanasius_n his_o life_n as_o you_o have_v it_o century_n 4._o cap._n 10._o p._n 1032_o in_o these_o word_n speak_v of_o his_o work_n quartus_fw-la tomâ—â—_n quaedam_fw-la habet_fw-la a_o diversis_fw-la translata_fw-la interpretibus_fw-la ut_fw-la libellum_fw-la de_fw-la variis_fw-la quaestionibus_fw-la sacrae_fw-la scripturae_fw-la ad_fw-la antiochum_fw-la principem_fw-la interpret_v valentino_n ampelandio_n quem_fw-la librum_fw-la athanasii_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la indeliquet_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la ejus_fw-la authore_fw-la athanasius_n citatur_fw-la quaestion_n vigesima_fw-la tertia_fw-la hoc_fw-la modo_fw-la &_o haec_fw-la quidem_fw-la multum_fw-la valen_n in_fw-la divina_fw-la scriptura_fw-la magnus_fw-la athanasius_n nos_fw-la vero_fw-la qui_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la sumus_fw-la illuminati_fw-la etc._n etc._n accidit_fw-la huc_fw-la quod_fw-la multos_fw-la videre_fw-la est_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la scripto_fw-la nauâ—s_fw-la atque_fw-la opiniones_fw-la ab_fw-la athanasio_fw-la alienas_fw-la the_o four_o tome_n have_v some_o thing_n translate_v by_o diverse_a interpreter_n as_o for_o instance_n the_o book_n of_o various_a question_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n to_o prince_n antiochus_n valentinus_n ampelandius_n be_v the_o in-interpreter_n which_o book_n that_o it_o be_v not_o athanasius_n be_v thence_o manifest_v because_o athanasius_n be_v cite_v by_o the_o author_n thereof_o in_o the_o 23._o question_v in_o this_o manner_n and_o these_o thing_n indeed_o say_v the_o great_a athanasius_n who_o be_v mighty_a in_o the_o scripture_n bâ—â—_n we_o who_o be_v enlighten_v by_o he_o etc._n etc._n and_o hereto_o it_o may_v be_v add_v say_v they_o that_o one_o may_v see_v in_o that_o writer_n many_o error_n and_o opinion_n that_o be_v far_o from_o athanasius_n by_o which_o you_o may_v see_v the_o design_n of_o this_o wicked_a cheat_n by_o father_v this_o false_a thing_n upon_o this_o maâ—_n of_o name_n to_o wit_n to_o bring_v some_o reputation_n upon_o infant_n baptism_n as_o though_o own_a and_o practise_v by_o the_o great_a athanasius_n in_o this_o age_n and_o which_o our_o antagonist_n fall_v in_o with_o and_o improve_v to_o the_o utmost_a first_o in_o the_o severe_a check_n he_o be_v please_v to_o give_v i_o for_o pervert_v as_o he_o call_v it_o the_o testimony_n give_v by_o he_o for_o adult_n against_o his_o judgement_n and_o practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n as_o appear_v by_o these_o two_o question_n urge_v second_o for_o our_o so_o little_a regard_v what_o the_o father_n say_v when_o they_o urge_v scripture_n as_o well_o as_o tradition_n for_o infant_n baptism_n witness_v those_o two_o pertinent_a scripture_n urge_v by_o this_o eminent_a father_n three_o for_o draw_v the_o injurious_a conclusion_n that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v not_o practise_v in_o africa_n in_o this_o age_n from_o his_o testimony_n for_o adult_n baptism_n when_o the_o contrary_a so_o manifest_o appear_v from_o those_o question_n but_o now_o this_o goodly_a story_n prove_v a_o lie_n do_v not_o the_o contrary_a to_o all_o these_o natural_o revert_v upon_o himself_o and_o full_o discover_v that_o till_o we_o have_v better_a evidence_n to_o the_o contrary_a that_o however_o athanasius_n play_v the_o bishop_n and_o baptize_v his_o school-fellow_n when_o a_o boy_n in_o sport_n that_o when_o he_o come_v to_o better_a understanding_n he_o give_v continuance_n to_o no_o other_o baptism_n then_o to_o that_o of_o the_o adult_n only_o according_a to_o christ_n commission_n the_o next_o piece_n of_o fraud_n and_o injustice_n he_o charge_v upon_o i_o charge_v 8._o falshood_n charge_v be_v the_o curtail_v and_o leave_v out_o part_n of_o a_o sentence_n quote_v out_o of_o bazil_n pag._n 65._o mention_v by_o he_o chap._n 7._o 1._o part_n pag._n 13._o and_o hint_v at_o also_o in_o his_o preface_n the_o quotation_n be_v to_o prove_v as_o he_o remark_n that_o adult_n baptism_n be_v then_o only_o practise_v in_o the_o eastern_a church_n which_o be_v two_o saying_n out_o of_o bazil_n one_o out_o of_o his_o 3._o book_n against_o eunomius_n viz._n must_v the_o faithful_a be_v seal_v with_o baptism_n faith_n must_v needs_o precede_v and_o go_v before_o and_o in_o his_o exhortation_n to_o baptism_n that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v but_o the_o catechuman_n and_o those_o that_o be_v due_o instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n upon_o which_o he_o say_v now_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o impose_v a_o fallacy_n upon_o any_o reader_n that_o have_v no_o acquaintance_n with_o that_o father_n and_o understand_v not_o in_o what_o sense_n he_o speak_v who_o will_v not_o think_v that_o this_o ancient_a doctor_n be_v against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o that_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v own_v in_o the_o church_n in_o his_o day_n very_o true_a
practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n of_o believe_a parent_n and_o withal_o that_o though_o h_o mselâ—_n have_v not_o answer_v those_o argument_n in_o his_o libertâ—_n of_o prâ—pâ—eâ—y_n which_o some_o think_v stand_v in_o need_n of_o a_o wear_n yet_o d_o ctoâ—_n hamond_n hâ—d_v effectual_o do_v the_o same_o in_o his_o letter_n of_o resolution_n to_o six_o query_n pag._n 35_o 36_o etc._n etc._n to_o which_o i_o reply_v answ_n that_o as_o to_o those_o argument_n of_o dâ—ctor_n tailor_n i_o have_v already_o in_o the_o prâ—face_n of_o both_o my_o book_n say_v to_o this_o purpose_n that_o what_o ever_o be_v his_o ju_fw-la gement_fw-la or_o end_n in_o write_v those_o thing_n yet_o it_o be_v meet_v to_o remark_n they_o to_o the_o world_n that_o the_o wisdom_n and_o power_n of_o god_n may_v more_o appear_v if_o a_o enemy_n to_o bring_v â—orth_o such_o convince_a argument_n and_o reason_n from_o his_o own_o mouth_n to_o witness_v to_o his_o despise_a reproach_v truth_n yet_o true_o reason_n reasins_z why_o the_o plea_n for_o anabaptist_n be_v dr._n tailor_n own_o sense_n 1._o reason_n for_o what_o as_o yet_o appear_v to_o the_o contrary_a the_o doctor_n seem_v to_o have_v speak_v therein_o his_o own_o as_o well_o as_o ur_fw-la apprehension_n in_o the_o great_a part_n of_o those_o argument_n and_o that_o for_o these_o follow_a demonstration_n first_o because_o the_o doctor_n have_v speak_v to_o all_o the_o usual_a argument_n bring_v by_o the_o protestant's_n for_o infant_n baptism_n and_o answer_v they_o distinct_o do_v in_o the_o conclusion_n speak_v his_o own_o word_n say_v these_o two_o thing_n very_o considerable_a first_o that_o through_o the_o weakness_n of_o the_o paedobaptist_n argument_n which_o be_v nâ—t_o good_a in_o themselves_o those_o other_o argument_n in_o plea_n for_o the_o aâ—abaptists_n be_v good_a in_o â—pposing_v they_o and_o so_o they_o be_v accidental_o strength_n ed_z in_o their_o error_n as_o he_o call_v it_o by_o the_o weâ—â—ness_n and_o confidence_n of_o weak_a opposition_n and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v thâ—t_v those_o argument_n which_o he_o so_o reprove_v as_o weak_a and_o with_o so_o much_o demonstration_n have_v baffle_v be_v these_o that_o fâ—llow_n sum_v up_o breed_v slâ—_n in_o his_o own_o word_n â—aylâ—r_n paedobaptiâ—â—s_n argument_n by_o 〈◊〉_d â—aylâ—r_n liberty_n of_o prophecy_n p._n 228_o first_n tâ—e_v argument_n plead_v from_o the_o instâ—â—â—tioâ—_n of_o the_o type_n viz._n circumcision_n gen._n 17._o second_o from_o the_o action_n of_o christ_n call_v little_a child_n to_o come_v to_o he_o to_o bless_v they_o matth._n 19.14_o three_o from_o the_o title_n infant_n have_v to_o heaven_n four_o from_o the_o gospel_n instruction_n and_o precept_n joh._n 3_o 5._o five_o from_o the_o energy_n of_o the_o promise_n act_v 2.38_o 39_o six_o from_o the_o reasonableness_n of_o the_o thing_n 1_o cor._n 7._o seven_o from_o the_o infinite_a necessity_n on_o the_o child_n part_n eight_o from_o the_o apostolical_a practice_n who_o have_v commission_n to_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o do_v baptise_v whole_a household_n infant_n be_v part_n of_o nation_n and_o household_n ten_o from_o the_o universal_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o gossip_n to_o answer_v for_o they_o to_o supply_v incapacity_n make_v good_a by_o tradition_n hereto_o the_o answer_n he_o give_v hereto_o these_o be_v the_o argument_n that_o he_o answer_v distinct_o which_o first_o in_o the_o anabaptist_n plea_n he_o say_v pretend_v fair_o and_o signify_v nothing_o some_o of_o these_o alligaeion_n be_v false_a some_o impertinent_a and_o all_o the_o rest_n insufficient_a and_o all_o which_o agreeable_a hereto_o in_o his_o own_o word_n after_o he_o have_v reply_v to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o he_o be_v please_v to_o pronounce_v weak_a and_o insuffiicient_a and_o which_o have_v therefore_o give_v so_o much_o strength_n and_o confirmation_n to_o the_o anabaptist_n way_n reason_n 2._o reason_n and_o second_o conclude_v all_o with_o these_o word_n that_o there_o be_v much_o more_o truth_n than_o evidence_n oâ—_n their_o side_n and_o give_v no_o better_a or_o other_o argument_n to_o aemonstrate_v that_o truth_n be_v with_o they_o now_o i_o appeal_v to_o all_o man_n of_o understanding_n whether_o any_o but_o a_o person_n that_o dispond_v the_o goodness_n of_o his_o cause_n and_o design_v whole_o to_o give_v it_o up_o can_v say_v that_o the_o evidence_n demonstration_n or_o proof_n be_v on_o his_o adversary_n side_n all_o his_o own_o plea_n bring_v forth_o be_v remove_v and_o take_v away_o himself_o be_v judge_n but_o it_o be_v say_v objection_n that_o though_o he_o mention_v no_o other_o argument_n then_o yet_o he_o afterward_o do_v in_o that_o which_o mr._n will_n call_v his_o excellent_a piece_n for_o infant_n baptism_n will_n p._n 36._o it_o be_v true_a answer_v about_o six_o year_n after_o he_o have_v write_v his_o liberty_n of_o prophecy_n that_o be_v write_v 1647._o he_o do_v anno_fw-la 1653._o being_n much_o lay_v at_o by_o many_o of_o his_o friend_n and_o have_v give_v such_o general_a offence_n to_o his_o whole_a party_n thereby_o take_v himself_o concern_v to_o say_v something_o reason_n be_v a_o 3._o reason_n to_o persuade_v the_o world_n he_o be_v of_o a_o other_o mind_n though_o when_o he_o have_v say_v it_o it_o amount_v to_o just_a nothing_o to_o any_o consider_a person_n and_o which_o may_v appear_v to_o you_o from_o these_o reason_n follow_v first_o because_o he_o undertake_v not_o to_o answer_v argument_n 1._o d._n tailor_n answer_v none_o of_o those_o argument_n or_o invalidate_v one_o of_o those_o argument_n whereby_o he_o have_v on_o the_o anabaptist_n behalf_n overthrow_v all_o those_o weak_a argument_n before_o mention_v and_o that_o though_o some_o judge_v they_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o answer_v and_o that_o he_o have_v thought_n to_o have_v do_v it_o yet_o he_o forbear_v it_o upon_o some_o consideration_n which_o master_n will_n repeat_v from_o he_o p._n 36._o second_o argument_n 2._o repeat_v only_o some_o of_o the_o old_a baffle_v argument_n because_o what_o he_o say_v in_o that_o treatise_n which_o mr._n will_v so_o boast_v off_o be_v not_o any_o new_a thing_n but_o some_o of_o the_o very_a same_o argument_n he_o have_v before_o juâ—ged_v so_o weak_a and_o insuffiicient_a and_o have_v so_o substantial_o answer_v and_o baffle_v as_o first_o that_o from_o circumcision_n second_o from_o child_n right_a to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n three_o to_o adopt_v they_o into_o the_o coverant_a four_o from_o apostolical_a tradition_n only_o add_v two_o or_o three_o more_o savour_v more_o gross_o of_o popery_n viz._n from_o the_o use_n and_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o pardon_v thiir_n sin_n regenerate_v and_o save_v they_o they_o 3._o because_o in_o other_o book_n he_o confirm_v the_o truth_n of_o they_o and_o three_o it_o also_o appear_v that_o he_o speak_v his_o own_o mind_n and_o sense_n therein_o because_o in_o those_o two_o book_n he_o write_v so_o many_o year_n after_o viz._n in_o his_o diâ—wasive_a against_o popery_n second_o part_n and_o in_o his_o rule_n of_o conscience_n he_o have_v speak_v so_o much_o agreeable_a hereto_o as_o before_o have_v be_v observe_v to_o you_o viz._n that_o there_o be_v no_o apostolical_a tradition_n for_o infant_n baptism_n that_o it_o be_v nâ—t_o practise_v fill_v the_o three_o nor_o judge_v necessary_a till_o the_o four_o century_n that_o there_o be_v no_o scriptural_a proof_n for_o infant_n baptism_n that_o the_o child_n of_o christian_a parent_n be_v not_o baptism_n till_o they_o come_v to_o understanding_n for_o the_o first_o age_n and_o that_o dip_v and_o not_o sprinkle_v be_v the_o usage_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n and_o constant_a doctrine_n and_o practâ—â—e_v of_o the_o the_o ancient_n for_o maâ—y_v hundred_o year_n and_o which_o i_o conceive_v be_v substantial_a argument_n to_o prove_v the_o doctor_n sâ—oâ—e_v his_o own_v as_o well_o as_o our_o judgement_n therein_o and_o which_o i_o must_v stand_v by_o till_o i_o see_v better_a reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n objection_n objection_n but_o it_o be_v say_v one_o reason_n doctor_n tayler_n give_v why_o he_o do_v not_o answer_v those_o argument_n be_v because_o his_o worthy_a frâ—end_n doctor_n hamond_n have_v in_o charity_n and_o humility_n descend_v to_o answer_v that_o collection_n answer_n it_o be_v true_a indeed_o doctor_n hamond_n in_o that_o piece_n call_v his_o letter_n of_o râ—solutoin_n to_o six_o query_n bind_v up_o now_o in_o his_o first_o volume_n in_o folio_n p._n 481_o do_v therein_o pretend_v to_o reply_v thereto_o as_o be_v as_o he_o confess_v the_o most_o diligent_a collection_n that_o he_o ever_o meet_v with_o wherein_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o adversary_n be_v so_o enforce_v that_o he_o know_v not_o where_o to_o furnish_v himself_o with_o so_o exact_a a_o scheame_n but_o how_o far_o he_o have_v perform_v that_o task_n and_o answer_v those_o argument_n
practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n fail_v none_o prove_v it_o high_o by_o any_o approve_a author_n than_o the_o four_o or_o five_o century_n and_o then_o no_o other_o baptism_n then_o have_v be_v renounce_v by_o most_o protestant_n as_o corrupt_v and_o erroneus_fw-la and_o that_o however_o the_o papist_n and_o those_o that_o go_v their_o way_n may_v prove_v antiquity_n as_o high_a as_o the_o four_o or_o five_o century_n yet_o that_o mr._n will_n can_v go_v no_o high_o for_o his_o then_o new_a england_n or_o at_o the_o further_a then_o luther_n chap._n iii_o wherein_o the_o witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v vindicate_v from_o mr._n will_n exception_n the_o witness_n produce_v by_o i_o against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v either_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n as_o you_o have_v they_o at_o large_a mention_v in_o the_o seven_o chapter_n and_o first_o as_o to_o the_o evidence_n from_o particular_a person_n mr._n will_n in_o his_o preface_n tell_v we_o person_n 1._o from_o particular_a person_n that_o notwithstanding_o all_o the_o flourish_n mr._n d._n make_v and_o the_o numerous_a quotation_n he_o have_v fetch_v from_o the_o magdeburgensian_a history_n in_o his_o seven_o chapter_n from_o the_o first_o century_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o twelf_v there_o be_v but_o two_o person_n to_o be_v find_v against_o infant_n baptism_n viz._n adrianus_n and_o hincmarus_n whole_a mr._n will_n own_v bâ—t_v two_o in_o the_o whole_a which_o be_v just_a the_o same_o number_n he_o be_v please_v to_o allow_v i_o before_o for_o believer_n baptism_n but_o whether_o these_o and_o their_o fellow_n may_v not_o speed_v as_o well_o as_o the_o former_a shall_v be_v put_v to_o as_o fair_a a_o trial_n and_o so_o submit_v to_o judgement_n the_o first_o of_o my_o witness_n urge_v against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v tertullian_n who_o do_v witness_n tertullian_n thc_n first_o witness_n as_o express_v pag._n 221._o eminent_o oppose_v it_o in_o six_o argument_n first_o from_o the_o mistake_a scripture_n matt._n 19.14_o suffer_v little_a child_n etc._n etc._n by_o which_o it_o seem_v some_o will_v have_v introduce_v such_o a_o practice_n which_o can_v not_o as_o he_o say_v be_v proper_o apply_v to_o infant_n baptism_n for_o several_a reason_n urge_v from_o their_o incapacaty_n second_o from_o the_o weigthiness_n of_o that_o ordinanee_n which_o require_v caution_n and_o consideration_n and_o no_o such_o haste_n three_o from_o the_o sinfulness_n of_o such_o a_o practice_n by_o profane_v a_o ordinance_n and_o partake_v of_o other_o sin_n four_o from_o the_o absurdety_n of_o such_o a_o practice_n in_o refuse_v to_o intrust_v they_o with_o earthly_a thing_n and_o yet_o commit_v spiritual_a thing_n to_o their_o trust_n five_o from_o the_o folly_n of_o expose_v witness_n propound_v it_o seem_v to_o supply_v the_o want_n of_o capacity_n in_o they_o and_o to_o undertake_v for_o they_o six_o from_o the_o consideration_n that_o the_o adult_n upon_o many_o consideration_n be_v the_o only_a proper_a subject_n of_o baptism_n and_o to_o which_o we_o may_v add_v a_o seven_o which_o he_o be_v please_v so_o false_o to_o say_v i_o purposely_o and_o subtle_o omit_v there_o be_v no_o cause_n for_o it_o that_o i_o know_v viz._n from_o the_o insignificancy_n of_o the_o end_n propound_v for_o the_o same_o viz._n to_o take_v away_o sin_n from_o child_n wit_n mr._n will_n own_v tertullia_n wit_n to_o which_o testimony_n in_o the_o first_o place_n he_o give_v we_o this_o acknowledgement_n pag._n 96._o viz._n that_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v that_o tertullian_n who_o be_v the_o first_o writer_n of_o note_n in_o the_o latin_a church_n have_v divers_a passage_n seem_o against_o infant_n baptism_n but_o yet_o withal_o it_o must_v be_v consider_v that_o his_o testimony_n such_o as_o it_o be_v be_v but_o the_o testimony_n of_o one_o single_a dr._n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o general_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n where_o by_o the_o way_n we_o may_v take_v notice_n that_o our_o witness_n be_v own_v by_o he_o but_o the_o general_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n he_o speak_v of_o be_v yet_o to_o be_v prove_v as_o utter_o disow_v by_o we_o and_o for_o which_o there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o colour_n of_o truth_n as_o yet_o produce_v and_o again_o pag._n 6._o he_o do_v grant_v that_o the_o magdeburg_n do_v indeed_o tell_v we_o that_o tertullian_n in_o this_o three_o age_n oppose_v himself_o to_o some_o that_o asserted_a infant_n baptism_n affirm_v that_o the_o adult_n be_v the_o only_a proper_a subject_n of_o baptism_n weakness_n charge_v he_o witâ—_n corruption_n and_o weakness_n but_o what_o a_o corrupt_a person_n he_o be_v and_o how_o weak_o he_o have_v reason_v he_o endeavour_v with_o much_o keeness_n to_o demonstrate_v in_o answer_v whereto_o i_o say_v that_o his_o witness_n be_v allow_v and_o to_o be_v such_o a_o doctor_n of_o note_n too_o in_o the_o latin_a church_n it_o be_v sufficient_a and_o i_o think_v we_o need_v say_v nothing_o to_o those_o cavil_n of_o corruption_n and_o weakness_n the_o evidence_n be_v acknowledge_v the_o main_a thing_n intend_v and_o which_o will_v be_v endless_a to_o answer_v in_o every_o authority_n that_o may_v be_v urge_v pro_fw-la and_o con_v but_o yet_o in_o as_o much_o as_o he_o be_v our_o first_o witness_n and_o speak_v so_o much_o reason_n and_o truth_n and_o so_o much_o to_o the_o purpose_n and_o to_o make_v mr._n will_n his_o unreasonable_a opposition_n the_o better_a to_o appear_v we_o shall_v give_v some_o distinct_a reply_n to_o his_o exception_n against_o this_o our_o witness_n who_o he_o areignes_n for_n so_o much_o corruption_n in_o doctrine_n and_o folly_n in_o this_o his_o particular_a witness_n and_o first_o for_o that_o great_a corruption_n in_o doctrine_n with_o 1._o the_o corrupt_a doctrine_n he_o charge_v tertullian_n with_o he_o charge_v he_o with_o about_o chrism_n exorcism_n etc._n etc._n i_o presume_v there_o be_v none_o of_o his_o ancient_a doctor_n come_v short_a of_o he_o and_o who_o be_v as_o much_o montanist_n as_o he_o therein_o viz._n origen_n cyprian_a chrysostom_n austin_n etc._n etc._n only_o herein_o tertullian_n be_v more_o orthodox_n hold_v none_o of_o those_o to_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la while_o they_o take_v they_o to_o be_v apostolical_a tradition_n and_o essential_a to_o baptism_n magdeb._n century_n 3._o chap._n 10._o pag._n 240._o compare_v 82._o 225._o 248._o and_o for_o those_o evil_a sentiment_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o origen_n do_v far_o exceed_v he_o as_o you_o will_v find_v at_o large_a in_o his_o naevi_fw-la pag._n 261._o etc._n etc._n and_o which_o argue_v a_o very_a partial_a mina_fw-la to_o be_v so_o quick_a sight_v in_o the_o one_o and_o so_o stark_o blind_a in_o the_o other_o and_o as_o to_o his_o be_v a_o montanist_n before_o he_o write_v his_o book_n of_o baptism_n which_o mr._n will_n affirm_v i_o see_v it_o not_o confirm_v by_o any_o good_a authority_n the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o from_o carthage_n he_o go_v to_o rome_n baptism_n tertullian_n no_o montanist_n before_o he_o write_v foâ—_n baptism_n and_o live_v long_o there_o where_o he_o write_v against_o the_o montanist_n and_o write_v his_o book_n of_o prescription_n as_o helvicus_n say_v the_o five_o of_o severus_n which_o mr._n will_n own_v to_o be_v about_o the_o fortyth_n year_n of_o his_o age_n and_o the_o say_v helvicus_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v twenty_o year_n after_o before_o he_o write_v before_o the_o montanist_n and_o he_o that_o write_v the_o life_n of_o the_o primative_a father_n pag._n 82._o tell_v we_o that_o in_o the_o eleven_o year_n of_o severus_n tertullian_n write_v his_o book_n of_o baptism_n against_o quiâ—tila_n in_o his_o three_o tome_n next_o to_o his_o prescription_n and_o in_o the_o fivetenth_fw-mi year_n his_o book_n of_o the_o resurrection_n etc._n etc._n but_o if_o he_o be_v turn_v montanist_n before_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o much_o for_o it_o must_v be_v own_v that_o a_o man_n that_o be_v erroneous_a in_o one_o thing_n mâ—y_v be_v orthodox_n enough_o in_o another_o the_o business_n be_v whether_o as_o to_o matter_n of_o fact_n he_o speak_v these_o thing_n against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o that_o be_v not_o deny_v and_o in_o the_o next_o place_n whether_o he_o speak_v not_o reason_n and_o truth_n in_o that_o his_o testimony_n which_o in_o the_o next_o place_n we_o shall_v examine_v therefore_o second_o as_o to_o the_o weakness_n of_o his_o argument_n which_o he_o render_v so_o contemptible_a and_o ridiculous_a and_o guilty_a of_o so_o much_o dotage_n i_o make_v the_o follow_v particular_a reply_n to_o each_o exception_n viz._n first_o as_o to_o his_o first_o argument_n 19.14_o 1._o he_o abuse_v not_o the_o text_n mat._n 19.14_o from_o the_o mistake_a scripture_n he_o say_v he_o abuse_v the_o text_n by_o his_o paraphrase_n but_o second_o thought_n will_v i_o presume_v tell_v he_o it_o
congregation_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n their_o profess_v and_o declare_v open_o our_o faith_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n we_o esteem_v for_o a_o abomination_n and_o antichristian_a all_o humane_a invention_n as_o a_o trouble_n and_o prejudice_n to_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o spirit_n when_o humane_a tradition_n be_v observe_v for_o god_n ordinance_n then_o be_v he_o worship_v in_o vain_a as_o es_fw-ge 19_o matth._n 15._o and_o which_o be_v do_v when_o grace_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o external_n ceremony_n and_o person_n enjoin_v to_o partake_v of_o sacrament_n without_o faith_n and_o truth_n that_o antichrist_n attribute_n the_o regeneration_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n unto_o the_o dead_a outward_a work_n of_o baptise_v child_n into_o that_o faith_n and_o teach_v that_o thereby_o baptism_n and_o regeneration_n must_v be_v have_v ground_v therein_o all_o his_o christianity_n which_o be_v against_o the_o holy_a spirit_n what_o he_o make_v their_o confession_n to_o be_v p._n 45_o etc._n etc._n god_n have_v ordain_v certain_a sacrament_n to_o be_v join_v with_o the_o word_n as_o a_o mean_n to_o unite_v we_o unto_o and_o to_o make_v we_o partaker_n of_o his_o benefit_n and_o that_o there_o be_v only_o two_o of_o they_o we_o do_v believe_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n water_n be_v the_o visible_a and_o external_a sign_n which_o represent_v unto_o we_o that_o which_o be_v within_o viz._n renovation_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o mortification_n of_o our_o member_n in_o jesus_n christ_n we_o esteem_v for_o a_o abomination_n and_o antichristian_a all_o humane_a invention_n as_o a_o trouble_n and_o prejudice_n to_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o spirit_n when_o humane_a tradition_n be_v observe_v for_o god_n ordinance_n then_o be_v he_o worship_v in_o vain_a as_o es_fw-ge 19_o mat._n 15._o and_o which_o be_v do_v when_o grace_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o external_n ceremony_n and_o person_n enjoin_v to_o partake_v of_o sacrament_n without_o faith_n and_o truth_n that_o antichrist_n attribute_n the_o regeneration_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n unto_o the_o dead_a outward_a work_n of_o baptise_v child_n and_o teach_v that_o thereby_o regeneration_n must_v be_v have_v whereby_o you_o have_v demonstrate_v his_o great_a unfaithfulness_n in_o misrepresent_v their_o confession_n by_o leave_v out_o so_o many_o material_a and_o considerable_a part_n thereof_o that_o make_v against_o he_o and_o then_o so_o unfair_o and_o untrue_o to_o say_v that_o there_o be_v a_o harmony_n betwixt_o all_o the_o protestant_n churhe_n in_o the_o world_n in_o those_o article_n and_o the_o waldenses_n because_o all_o that_o be_v for_o infant_n baptism_n believe_v the_o same_o but_o whether_o it_o be_v so_o indeed_o let_v we_o examine_v the_o particular_n word_n 1._o infant_n not_o capable_a to_o hear_v the_o word_n first_o do_v all_o the_o paedobaptist_n believe_v that_o baptism_n and_o preach_v the_o word_n be_v join_v together_o to_o instruct_v the_o baptise_a party_n and_o that_o thereby_o they_o have_v union_n with_o christ_n and_o partake_v of_o his_o benefit_n pray_v how_o be_v that_o to_o be_v make_v good_a in_o any_o infant_n that_o have_v no_o actual_a knowledge_n faith_n or_o understanding_n supper_n 2._o nor_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n second_o do_v they_o indeed_o believe_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o belong_v in_o common_a with_o baptism_n to_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n why_o then_o do_v not_o infant_n partake_v of_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o since_o it_o belong_v to_o they_o in_o common_a if_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o mr._n will_n say_v they_o be_v thereof_o 3._o nor_o to_o understand_v the_o symbol_n thereof_o three_o do_v paedobaptist_n with_o the_o waldenses_n believe_v as_o you_o say_v that_o water_n in_o baptism_n be_v the_o usual_a sign_n represent_v to_o the_o subject_n thereof_o the_o invisible_a virtue_n of_o god_n operate_n in_o they_o viz._n renovation_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o mortification_n of_o their_o member_n and_o can_v it_o be_v true_o say_v it_o be_v so_o to_o a_o infant_n that_o be_v not_o capable_a to_o put_v forth_o any_o act_n of_o faith_n repentance_n or_o mortification_n or_o discern_v any_o the_o least_o sign_n in_o the_o water_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n signify_v thereby_o four_o it_o 4._o nor_o to_o make_v confession_n of_o faith_n before_o it_o have_v they_o indeed_o a_o harmony_n with_o the_o waldenses_n in_o what_o further_o they_o confess_v concern_v this_o ordinance_n viz._n that_o by_o it_o tâ—ey_n be_v receive_v into_o the_o holy_a congregation_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n there_o profess_v and_o declare_v open_o their_o faith_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n but_o how_o be_v the_o infant_n capable_a with_o the_o waldensian_a christians_n not_o pagan_a convert_n to_o profess_v and_o declare_v open_o their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n and_o so_o to_o be_v receive_v into_o the_o congregation_n thereby_o five_o do_v paedobaptist_n indeed_o believe_v with_o they_o that_o humane_a tradition_n and_o invention_n why_o 5._o that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v a_o humane_a tradition_n and_o why_o be_v to_o be_v esteem_v antichristian_a â—bâ—mâ—na_n lion_z and_o vain_a worship_n and_o that_o that_o worship_n be_v vain_a and_o traditional_a when_o person_n be_v enjoin_v to_o it_o without_o faith_n and_o truth_n why_o then_o be_v infant_n baptize_v by_o they_o that_o have_v no_o faith_n or_o knowledge_n of_o truth_n and_o for_o which_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n or_o example_n in_o god_n word_n and_o by_o themselves_o own_v to_o be_v a_o unwriten_v tradition_n six_o do_v they_o believe_v it_o 6._o antichrist_n groundsall_a religion_n in_o it_o that_o antichrist_n ground_n all_o christianity_n and_o religion_n in_o the_o baptism_n of_o childreâ—_n attribute_v regeneration_n to_o that_o outward_a work_n do_v contrary_a to_o the_o holy_a spirit_n why_o then_o do_v they_o baptise_v child_n which_o as_o acknowledge_v be_v the_o basis_n and_o foundation_n of_o the_o false_a church_n and_o so_o contrary_a to_o the_o spirit_n and_o for_o which_o there_o be_v nothing_o but_o the_o decree_n of_o pope_n and_o anti_n christian_n counsel_n to_o warrant_v it_o whereby_o you_o see_v that_o infant_n be_v manifest_o exclude_v baptismal_a in_o these_o six_o particular_n in_o these_o confessor_n and_o that_o paedobaptist_n can_v assert_v the_o same_o without_o evident_a contradiction_n to_o themselves_o confession_n objection_n to_o the_o contrary_a confession_n but_o in_o the_o next_o place_n if_o these_o confession_n be_v good_a as_o you_o say_v against_o infant_n baptism_n yet_o what_o do_v you_o say_v to_o those_o contrary_a confession_n that_o own_o the_o baptise_v of_o â—_z as_o master_n will_n have_v give_v they_o from_o perin_n p._n 62_o 63_o 65._o answer_n to_o which_o i_o say_v it_o be_v to_o i_o matter_n of_o the_o great_a admiration_n that_o i_o have_v with_o that_o exactness_n especial_o in_o the_o last_o edition_n give_v you_o such_o a_o particular_a account_n of_o all_o tâ—ose_a confession_n word_n for_o word_n both_o of_o that_o of_o bohemia_n and_o that_o of_o provence_n and_o prove_v to_o you_o by_o such_o ample_a dâ—moastration_n the_o follow_a particular_n viz._n first_o that_o none_o of_o they_o be_v extant_a till_o the_o sixteenth_o century_n whereas_o the_o other_o be_v upon_o record_n in_o the_o eleven_o or_o twelf_v century_n so_o many_o hundred_o year_n before_o second_o that_o that_o confession_n say_v to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o waldenses_n in_o bohemia_n to_o king_n ladislaus_n be_v not_o waldenses_n as_o they_o themselves_o acknowledge_v in_o the_o preambule_n thereof_o three_o have_v give_v a_o account_n how_o and_o by_o what_o mean_n and_o when_o those_o of_o provence_n come_v to_o introduce_v that_o custom_n so_o contrary_a to_o what_o their_o ancient_a barbe_n have_v instruct_v they_o in_o how_o sad_o they_o have_v â—eclined_v even_o to_o go_v to_o mass_n and_o how_o contradictious_a that_o practice_n be_v to_o other_o part_n of_o the_o confession_n into_o which_o it_o be_v foist_v and_o that_o these_o waldenses_n of_o provence_n that_o make_v these_o confession_n be_v inconsiderable_a to_o the_o body_n of_o that_o people_n that_o be_v disperse_v into_o so_o many_o part_n of_o the_o world_n that_o hold_v the_o contrary_n yet_o mr._n will_n shall_v take_v so_o little_a notice_n of_o what_o i_o have_v say_v and_o mr._n blindman_n that_o have_v write_v since_o who_o have_v also_o transcribe_v the_o say_a contrary_a confession_n without_o the_o least_o notice_n to_o what_o i_o have_v say_v in_o answer_n thereto_o which_o i_o think_v be_v such_o a_o abuse_n as_o be_v never_o offer_v by_o any_o pretend_v to_o answer_v book_n and_o therefore_o i_o must_v refer_v they_o and_o all_o other_o that_o desire_v satisfaction_n therein_o to_o what_o i_o have_v so_o full_o and_o as_o i_o humble_o conceive_v unanswerable_o speak_v to_o each_o confession_n the_o second_o demonstration_n
dixit_fw-la only_o i_o shall_v give_v they_o brief_o to_o you_o with_o what_o i_o have_v since_o meet_v with_o to_o confirm_v the_o same_o which_o be_v as_o follow_v viz._n first_o from_o what_o be_v mention_v of_o donatus_n himself_o himself_o donatus_n himself_o who_o as_o sebastian_n frank_n in_o his_o chronicle_n say_v do_v teach_v that_o no_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptize_v but_o only_o those_o that_o believe_v and_o desire_v it_o p._n 222._o viz._n donatist_n his_o followersr_n viz._n second_o from_o what_o we_o find_v mention_v of_o his_o follower_n viz._n cresconius_n cresconius_n 1._o cresconius_n who_o do_v oppose_v austin_n in_o that_o point_n as_o say_v jacob_n mern_v p._n 230_o who_o be_v a_o donatist_n as_o say_v the_o magdeb._n cent._n 5._o p._n 631._o fulgentius_n fulgentius_n 2._o fulgentius_n another_o learned_a donatist_n as_o the_o magdeb._n tell_v we_o cent._n 5._o p._n 631._o do_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n and_o assert_v only_o that_o baptism_n that_o be_v after_o faith_n vicecom_v l._n 3._o c._n 3._o p._n 66._o vincentius_n vincentius_n 3_o vincentius_n victor_n another_o who_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n as_o say_v vicom_a l._n 1._o c._n 2._o out_o of_o austin_n lib._n 3._o c._n 14._o de_fw-la anima_fw-la three_o it_o do_v appear_v from_o what_o we_o find_v in_o austin_n austin_n austin_n 3._o and_o 4._o book_n tom._n 7._o c._n 23._o p._n 433._o write_v against_o the_o donatist_n wherein_o with_o so_o much_o zeal_n and_o fury_n he_o manage_v the_o argument_n for_o infant_n baptism_n against_o they_o bitter_o curse_v those_o that_o oppose_v it_o p._n 123._o also_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o marcellus_n tom._n 7._o c._n 6._o p._n 724._o he_o oppose_v himself_o against_o they_o for_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n four_o eckberius_n and_o emericus_n emericus_n eckbertus_n &_o emericus_n learned_a writer_n in_o the_o twelf_v century_n contend_v against_o the_o waldenses_n or_o catheri_n for_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n do_v say_v that_o the_o new_a catheri_n viz._n the_o waldenses_n then_o do_v in_o that_o point_n conform_v to_o the_o old_a catheri_n the_o donatist_n and_o novation_n p._n 224._o thomas_n walden_n walden_n tho._n walden_n that_o write_v against_o wickliff_n in_o henry_n the_o four_o time_n tell_v we_o that_o vincentius_n victor_n with_o who_o austin_n contend_v do_v deny_v baptism_n to_o little_a one_o de_fw-fr sacram._n tit._n 5._o ch_n 53._o fol._n 118._o bullinger_n osiandeâ—_n fuller_n &_o bullinger_n five_o our_o latter_a writer_n do_v also_o agree_v herein_o that_o the_o donatist_n and_o modern_a anabaptist_n be_v all_o one_o so_o say_v osiander_n cent._n 16._o p._n 176._o and_o fuller_n in_o his_o eccles_n histor_n lib._n 5._o pag._n 229._o and_o bullinger_n lib._n 5._o sol_fw-la 216_o 222._o of_o baptism_n spanhemius_fw-la spanhem_n spanhem_n also_o say_v that_o the_o donanist_n deny_v infant_n baptism_n as_o appear_v say_v he_o austin_n 6._o book_n against_o the_o donatist_n c._n 23_o 24_o 25._o spanh_o ch_n 4._o p._n 45._o six_o because_o the_o donatist_n and_o novatian_o both_o one_o in_o doctrine_n be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o principle_n with_o the_o waldenses_n and_o that_o the_o novatian_o banish_v by_o innocent_a the_o three_o out_o of_o rome_n as_o say_v socrat._v l._n 7_o c._n 9_o do_v dwell_v in_o italy_n and_o dâ—lmatia_n and_o be_v call_v by_o the_o same_o name_n with_o the_o waldense_n viz._n cathari_n and_o fratricilli_n in_o so_o much_o as_o perin_n judge_n they_o be_v the_o same_o people_n and_o osiander_n confess_v that_o the_o albigoâ—s_n come_v from_o rome_n cent._n 13._o l._n 1._o ch_n 4._o p._n 329._o therefore_o it_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o judicious_a reader_n whether_o i_o be_o not_o sufficient_o justify_v by_o this_o six_o fold_n testimony_n in_o my_o affirm_v that_o the_o donatist_n do_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n and_o that_o they_o may_v well_o be_v reckon_v among_o the_o number_n of_o my_o witness_n and_o against_o who_o mr._n will_n have_v make_v no_o just_a exception_n but_o in_o the_o next_o place_n mr._n will_n tell_v we_o donatist_n mr._n will_n slander_v 〈◊〉_d the_o donatist_n that_o if_o it_o be_v take_v for_o grant_v they_o be_v against_o infant_n baptism_n they_o be_v as_o he_o confess_v in_o many_o thing_n so_o like_o anabaptist_n yet_o by_o what_o appear_v from_o mr._n fox_n as_o he_o tell_v we_o out_o of_o eusebius_n and_o fâ—om_n augustine_n work_n as_o say_v the_o magdebuâ—gs_n that_o i_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o boast_v of_o my_o authority_n for_o both_o novation_n and_o donatist_n be_v viâ—e_a person_n and_o always_o count_v for_o heretic_n to_o which_o i_o say_v answer_v that_o if_o i_o shall_v acknowledge_v they_o as_o corrupt_v as_o origen_n cyprian_n austin_n and_o chrysostom_n and_o other_o of_o his_o great_a witness_n that_o hold_v for_o chrism_n excorcisme_n and_o other_o superstition_n and_o that_o regeneration_n be_v effect_v in_o the_o very_a act_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o t_o without_o baâ—tisme_n and_o the_o eucharist_n no_o child_n can_v be_v save_v yet_o their_o witness_n as_o to_o matter_n of_o fact_n be_v to_o be_v own_v which_o be_v all_o i_o produce_v they_o for_o not_o undertake_v to_o defend_v they_o in_o all_o the_o tenet_n father_v upon_o they_o more_o than_o mr._n will_n do_v those_o that_o be_v so_o undeniable_o charge_v upon_o his_o witness_n yet_o this_o he_o must_v give_v i_o leave_v to_o say_v in_o vindication_n of_o the_o donatist_n and_o novatious_a viz._n first_o for_o the_o novation_n that_o what_o mr._n fox_n speak_v of_o they_o from_o eusebius_n a_o author_n of_o no_o great_a fame_n be_v the_o less_o to_o be_v regard_v because_o he_o be_v a_o great_a friend_n to_o the_o arian_n and_o the_o novation_n great_a impugner_n of_o they_o and_o upon_o that_o score_n it_o be_v he_o speak_v very_o malicious_o of_o they_o though_o socrates_n a_o author_n of_o better_a account_n speak_v very_o honourable_o of_o they_o and_o albaspanaeus_n upon_o optat._n milevitan_n bespeak_v they_o a_o very_a worthy_a people_n in_o his_o 20._o observation_n doâ—â—â—es_n magd._n say_v no_o mention_n in_o old_a â—riters_n of_o â—â—eir_n doâ—â—â—es_n and_o as_o for_o the_o donatist_n the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o they_o wonder_v that_o there_o be_v no_o more_o mention_n of_o they_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n of_o this_o age_n either_o by_o sozamus_n or_o other_o and_o that_o only_o the_o doret_n in_o his_o heretical_a fable_n give_v some_o hint_n of_o they_o and_o that_o the_o hypothose_n of_o their_o dogme_n they_o gather_v not_o from_o any_o of_o their_o writing_n which_o be_v not_o extent_n but_o out_o of_o augustine_n work_n their_n great_a opposer_n câ—nt_n 4._o c._n 5._o p._n 376_o 377._o and_o from_o who_o it_o be_v â—hat_n mr._n will_n take_v his_o scheame_n but_o how_o any_o can_v take_v a_o good_a meaâ—ure_n from_o â—ir_n sevear_v enemy_n to_o make_v a_o judgement_n aâ—â—st_v they_o and_o condemn_v they_o for_o heretic_n 〈◊〉_d not_o for_o may_v you_o not_o from_o calvin_n writâ—_n pick_v as_o great_a a_o charge_n against_o the_o lutheâ—_n and_o as_o great_a against_o the_o sacramentarian_o out_o of_o luther_n writing_n alas_o what_o a_o sad_a people_n do_v mr._n edward_n make_v the_o independent_o and_o what_o a_o dismal_a black_a line_n do_v the_o prelate_n draw_v upon_o the_o presbyterian_o and_o the_o papist_n again_o upon_o they_o and_o what_o a_o sad_a generation_n be_v anabaptist_n if_o mr._n will_n may_v be_v believe_v schism_n be_v in_o all_o the_o incense_a crime_n which_o draw_v forth_o all_o the_o gall_n and_o wormwood_n and_o just_o so_o it_o be_v betwixt_o austin_n who_o be_v so_o catholic_n in_o his_o communion_n and_o the_o donatist_n that_o press_v for_o more_o purity_n in_o their_o separation_n and_o from_o whence_o it_o be_v that_o all_o that_o dirt_n be_v fling_v upon_o they_o and_o they_o put_v into_o such_o bear_n skin_n as_o mr._n will_n put_v his_o opposite_n in_o and_o for_o those_o decree_n of_o counsel_n that_o past_a upon_o they_o for_o heretic_n be_v no_o good_a ground_n to_o conclude_v against_o they_o for_o so_o they_o judge_v the_o pure_a doctrine_n and_o holy_a walk_v in_o many_o age_n witness_v our_o saviour_n himself_o who_o be_v censure_v for_o a_o blasphemer_n and_o the_o apostle_n and_o saint_n in_o every_o age_n ever_o since_o and_o who_o more_o censure_v for_o heresy_n than_o the_o waldenses_n lollard_n and_o wickliffian_n their_o follower_n and_o disciple_n that_o be_v so_o true_o orthodox_n the_o witness_v say_v to_o be_v bear_v against_o infant_n baptism_n by_o the_o ancient_a britain_n defend_v the_o last_o witness_n he_o oppose_v be_v that_o bear_v by_o the_o ancient_a britain_n britain_n ancient_a britain_n and_o that_o they_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n i_o give_v the_o follow_a argument_n and_o which_o you_o have_v at_o large_a p._n 226._o first_o baptism_n why_o they_o deny_v