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A19142 A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part Ames, William, 1576-1633. 1633 (1633) STC 555; ESTC S100154 485,880 929

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cross_n d._n fulke_o in_o his_o rej._n to_o bristol_n cap._n 3._o mainteyn_v that_o many_o abuse_n and_o corruption_n enter_v into_o the_o church_n immediate_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n which_o the_o devil_n plant_v as_o a_o preparative_n for_o antichrist_n the_o same_o doctor_n also_o ibid._n sect_n 4_o prove_v many_o ceremony_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n to_o have_v be_v unprofitable_a because_o they_o be_v abrogate_a and_o cap._n 9_o he_o say_v plain_o that_o the_o error_n of_o conceive_v and_o use_v some_o superstition_n or_o superfluous_a ceremony_n be_v common_a to_o the_o father_n with_o papist_n 6._o a_o great_a matter_n be_v make_v of_o that_o which_o the_o replier_n say_v concern_v 1500._o year_n experience_n of_o humane_a significant_a ceremony_n for_o about_o this_o the_o rej._n say_v that_o it_o be_v wonderful_a rashness_n answer_v the_o spirit_n of_o montanus_fw-la to_o challenge_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o error_n in_o this_o matter_n for_o 1500._o year_n but_o 1._o it_o be_v rashness_n in_o the_o rej._n to_o accuse_v one_o of_o challenge_v the_o whole_a church_n who_o mention_v not_o in_o his_o challenge_n either_o church_n or_o whole_a 2._o the_o whole_a church_n can_v be_v understand_v except_o the_o waldenses_n and_o all_o like_a unto_o they_o that_o be_v the_o pure_a part_n be_v exclude_v out_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n 3._o doctor_n morton_n himself_o prot._n apol._n cap._n 25._o sect_n 9_o maintain_v this_o sentence_n of_o m_o r._n calfhill_n the_o father_n decline_v all_o from_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o ceremony_n if_o by_o simplicity_n be_v understand_v a_o virtue_n opposite_a either_o unto_o superfluity_n or_o superstition_n and_o an_o be_v not_o superfluity_n and_o superstition_n error_n 4._o from_o the_o primitive_a time_n by_o the_o space_n of_o six_o hundred_o year_n the_o church_n general_o err_v in_o give_v the_o lord_n supper_n unto_o infant_n as_o d._n morton_n show_v prot._n apol._n l._n 2._o cap._n 25._o sect_n 10._o and_o after_o that_o for_o many_o hundred_o year_n it_o mend_v for_o the_o common_a course_n of_o error_n as_o sour_a ale_n do_v in_o summer_n 5._o the_o rej._n can_v name_v any_o church_n in_o all_o that_o time_n free_a from_o error_n neither_o can_v he_o deny_v but_o the_o church_n that_o err_v in_o doctrine_n may_v err_v in_o ceremony_n ergo._n 6._o he_o be_v unhappy_a in_o mention_v montanus_n his_o spirit_n which_o breathe_v and_o broach_v so_o many_o humane_a ceremony_n that_o the_o church_n have_v ever_o since_o be_v more_o wrong_v thereby_o in_o ceremony_n then_o in_o any_o other_o respect_n or_o by_o any_o other_o spirit_n of_o that_o time_n as_o all_o man_n know_v that_o have_v read_v those_o writing_n of_o tertullian_n which_o be_v dictate_v by_o a_o piece_n of_o montanus_n his_o spirit_n montanus_n will_v have_v three_o lent_n in_o stead_n of_o one_o montanus_n advance_v the_o cross_n unto_o more_o honour_n then_o ever_o it_o have_v before_o montanus_n 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against_o the_o church_n quote_v for_o it_o renatus_n or_o ●as_v i_o understand_v he_o rhenanus_fw-la and_o doctor_n abbot_n but_o neither_o of_o these_o can_v help_v for_o rhenanus_fw-la in_o the_o argument_n of_o that_o book_n the_o coron_n mil._n defend_v tertul●●an_n about_o the_o garland_n and_o show_v he_o to_o have_v main●●ed_v the_o same_o sentence_n in_o his_o apollogie_n which_o be_v his_o master_n piece_n write_v without_o distemper_n and_o not_o equal_v by_o the_o best_a temper_a writing_n extant_a of_o the_o same_o kind_n doctor_z abbot_z speak_v sharp_o of_o tertullian_n for_o his_o maintain_n of_o ceremonial_a tradition_n wherein_o he_o be_v to_o ●e_v blame_v but_o not_o for_o his_o general_a rule_n of_o not_o borrow_v 〈◊〉_d the_o service_n of_o idol_n whereas_o the_o defendant_n and_o rejoinder_n allow_v those_o tradition_n as_o appear_v in_o this_o rejoinder_n pag_n 493._o and_o oppose_v this_o rule_n and_o it_o be_v most_o ●●rtaine_a that_o tertullian_n do_v not_o receive_v any_o distemper_n or_o ●●ctious_a disposition_n from_o montanus_n against_o ceremony_n ●●used_v to_o idolatry_n for_o montanus_n bring_v in_o the_o blood_n 〈◊〉_d child_n into_o the_o supper_n but_o about_o the_o cross_n he_o do_v ●n_v the_o judgement_n of_o doctor_n abbot_n and_o all_o our_o best_a divine_n i_o have_v somewhat_o merry_o answer_v in_o this_o passage_n ●y_a occasion_n of_o the_o rej._n his_o mention_v of_o a_o straggle_a soldier_n if_o any_o man_n will_v accuse_v i_o therefore_o est_fw-la congruit_fw-la &_o veritat_v ridere_fw-la quia_fw-la latans_fw-fr de_fw-fr emulu_fw-fr suis_fw-fr ludere_fw-la quia_fw-la socura_fw-la est_fw-la curandum_fw-la plane_n ne_fw-la rifus_fw-la ejus_fw-la rideatur_fw-la si_fw-la su●rit_fw-la ìndignus_fw-la caeterum_fw-la ubicunque_fw-la dignus_fw-la r●sus_fw-la officium_fw-la est_fw-la of_o this_o or_o ●●at_a fault_n as_o the_o rejoynder_n do_v the_o reply_o upon_o like_a ●ccasion_n tertullian_n who_o cause_n i_o plead_v shall_v 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it_o d●servethto_o be_v prove_v in_o we_o because_o it_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o service_n of_o a_o idol_n to_o which_o the_o rej._n oppose_v nothing_o but_o that_o the_o heathen_n may_v use_v their_o idolatrous_a ceremony_n with_o opinion_n of_o necessity_n let_v it_o be_v so_o yet_o christian_n may_v be_v reprooved_a for_o mere_a likeness_n unto_o they_o though_o either_o they_o have_v not_o the_o same_o opinion_n or_o the_o consideration_n of_o that_o opinion_n set_v apart_o mere_o do_v not_o always_o signify_v only_o nor_o can_v it_o so_o stand_v in_o the_o def._n his_o answer_n for_o then_o thus_o he_o shall_v speak_v not_o only_o for_o resemblance_n but_o without_o any_o also_o for_o opinion_n if_o he_o do_v mean_a so_o we_o say_v on_o the_o contrary_a not_o only_o for_o opinion_n but_o also_o for_o resemblance_n so_o far_o as_o i_o can_v understand_v the_o word_n mere_o for_o it_o note_v not_o more_o then_o be_v imply_v in_o tertullia_n therefore_o it_o deserve_v a_o deserve_a cause_n be_v mere_o a_o cause_n or_o else_o malefactor_n be_v not_o punish_v mere_o for_o their_o evil_a desert_n in_o the_o former_a testimony_n out_o of_o tertullian_n pag._n 484._o the_o rej._n translate_v meras_fw-la utilitates_fw-la any_o commodious_a use_n if_o mere_a commodity_n be_v all_o one_o with_o any_o commodity_n then_o mere_o for_o resemblance_n be_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o for_o resemblance_n and_o so_o the_o def._n deni_v tertullian_n to_o have_v condemn_v those_o ceremony_n he_o speak_v against_o any_o thing_n at_o all_o for_o resemblance_n with_o idolatry_n which_o yet_o tertullian_n do_v as_o plain_o speak_v as_o ever_o he_o speak_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o b._n jewel_n say_v the_o replier_n do_v urge_v these_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n mere_o in_o regard_n of_o resemblance_n of_o other_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a to_o speak_v the_o rej._n answer_v 1._o that_o jewel_n do_v not_o urge_v these_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n but_o it_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o his_o def._n apol._n par_fw-fr 3._o cap._n 5._o div_o 1._o how_o he_o cit_v tertullian_n de_fw-fr coron_n mil._n and_o the_o idol_n with_o which_o the_o rejoynder_n will_v not_o deny_v this_o de_fw-la orat_fw-la to_o consent_v 2._o he_o cit_v they_o add_v the_o rej._n not_o for_o unlawfulnesse_n but_o for_o inconveniency_n of_o resemble_v idolater_n concern_v this_o distinction_n enough_o have_v be_v say_v in_o the_o first_o part_n yet_o this_o here_o be_v worthy_a of_o observation_n that_o both_o the_o def._n and_o rej._n in_o the_o first_o section_n of_o this_o four_o chapter_n confess_v that_o human_a ceremony_n abuse_v to_o idolatry_n be_v therefore_o unlawful_a except_o they_o be_v of_o convenient_a necessity_n as_o the_o rejoynder_n speak_v pag._n 406._o what_o reason_n then_o have_v jewel_n or_o have_v the_o rejoynder_n in_o his_o name_n to_o confess_v such_o ceremony_n inconvenient_a and_o yet_o make_v they_o lawful_a but_o that_o jewel_n understand_v tertullian_n to_o speak_v 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of_o he_o that_o do_v deliver_v he_o but_o out_o of_o
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