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A15419 Loidoromastix: that is, A scourge for a rayler containing a full and sufficient answer vnto the vnchristian raylings, slaunders, vntruths, and other iniurious imputations, vented of late by one Richard Parkes master of Arts, against the author of Limbomastix. VVherein three hundred raylings, errors, contradictions, falsifications of fathers, corruptions of Scripture, with other grosse ouersights, are obserued out of the said vncharitable discourse, by Andrevv Willet Professor of Diuinitie. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1607 (1607) STC 25693; ESTC S120028 176,125 240

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spiritum_fw-la immortalis_fw-la essentiae_fw-la significat_fw-la quam_fw-la vitam_fw-la ipsam_fw-la for_o the_o soul_n do_v not_o so_o much_o signify_v the_o immortal_a essence_n of_o the_o spirit_n as_o the_o life_n itself_o be_v calvin_n in_o his_o base_a opinion_n no_o body_n 13._o it_o turn_v christ_n everliving_a soul_n into_o a_o dead_a body_n untruth_n it_o sit_v hell_n in_o the_o superficies_n of_o the_o earth_n make_v hell_n a_o place_n of_o corruption_n and_o there_o bury_v the_o bless_a soul_n of_o our_o saviour_n 164._o 2._o b._n p._n 164._o all_o these_o impiety_n and_o absurdity_n he_o charge_v the_o replyer_n with_o for_o so_o understand_v that_o place_n act._n 2._o 27._o that_o christ_n life_n seem_v to_o be_v rake_v up_o in_o the_o grave_n for_o here_o he_o have_v utter_v three_o untruth_n 1._o the_o soul_n be_v take_v for_o the_o life_n turn_v not_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n into_o the_o body_n but_o make_v the_o life_n only_o to_o be_v as_o lay_v up_o in_o the_o 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most_o of_o they_o if_o not_o in_o those_o place_n produce_v by_o bellarmine_n yet_o else_o where_o in_o their_o work_n do_v give_v testimony_n with_o the_o rest_n for_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la 19_o vntr._n 1000_o you_o flat_o deny_v this_o distinction_n of_o the_o soul_n death_n by_o sin_n or_o damnation_n as_o insufficient_a 3._o b._n p._n 84._o 84._o whereas_o the_o replyer_n direct_o say_v we_o approve_v that_o sentence_n of_o augustine_n which_o make_v mention_v only_o of_o those_o two_o kind_n of_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n speak_v proper_o though_o in_o a_o more_o general_a sense_n the_o deep_a perplexity_n and_o terror_n of_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n where_o the_o replyer_n further_a add_v in_o direct_a term_n i_o will_v forbear_v to_o use_v this_o phrase_n of_o christ_n die_v in_o soul_n ibid._n 20._o vntr._n he_o call_v the_o replyer_n exposition_n of_o that_o place_n of_o s._n peter_n new_a fancy_n have_v the_o 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that_o all_o latin_a interpreter_n turn_v sheol_n infernum_fw-la 151._o hell_n psal._n 139._o 8._o p._n 151._o 3._o b._n when_o as_o junius_n read_v stratum_fw-la ponerem_fw-la in_o sepulchro_fw-la if_o i_o shall_v make_v my_o bed_n in_o the_o grave_n and_o so_o vatablus_n though_o he_o retain_v the_o word_n infernum_fw-la in_o the_o text_n ●yet_fw-mi in_o his_o annotation_n he_o understandeth_v it_o of_o sepulchrum_fw-la the_o grave_n an_o other_o untruth_n it_o be_v that_o all_o translatour_n and_o interpreter_n be_v condemn_v of_o falsehood_n by_o limbomastix_n when_o as_o the_o replyer_n say_v only_o thus_o neither_o do_v some_o of_o the_o best_a interpreter_n read_v hell_n but_o the_o grave_n ibid._n 3._o b._n p._n 151._o in_o marg_n manifest_a truth_n deny_v unto_o these_o untruth_n unshamfast_o affirm_v shall_v be_v add_v also_o diverse_a truth_n as_o immodest_o deny_v 1._o that_o there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n through_o his_o whole_a book_n which_o do_v insinuate_v so_o much_o 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communicable_a unto_o any_o but_o such_o as_o he_o receive_v as_o messiah_n this_o vain_a and_o trifle_a confuter_n first_o quarrel_v because_o the_o replyer_n abridge_v this_o sentence_n keep_v the_o sense_n then_o deny_v that_o he_o have_v any_o such_o meaning_n but_o that_o these_o word_n make_v direct_o against_o the_o replyer_n whereas_o christ_n be_v compare_v to_o a_o victorious_a and_o triumphant_a captain_n divide_v spoil_n must_v be_v understand_v as_o the_o messiah_n as_o he_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n and_o lead_v captivity_n captive_a which_o he_o do_v not_o as_o god_n only_o but_o as_o the_o messiah_n and_o captain_n of_o the_o church_n these_o honour_n be_v due_a unto_o he_o in_o deed_n as_o god_n for_o who_o deny_v that_o upon_o which_o false_a supposal_n he_o ground_v all_o the_o force_n of_o his_o
for_o go_v into_o a_o unclean_a place_n make_v answer_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o sun_n do_v enter_v likewise_o into_o such_o but_o be_v not_o defile_v but_o i_o dare_v not_o say_v so_o i_o fear_v rather_o lest_o by_o rake_v long_o in_o a_o stink_a puddle_n some_o evil_a savour_n shall_v remain_v hitherto_o i_o think_v it_o needful_a to_o shape_v a_o wrangler_n a_o answer_n that_o he_o may_v know_v himself_o and_o reform_v his_o error_n not_o to_o that_o end_n as_o sallust_n say_v to_o tully_n si_fw-mi quam_fw-la volupatem_fw-la maledie_n endo_fw-la caepisti_fw-la eam_fw-la male_a audiendo_fw-la amittas_fw-la that_o if_o you_o have_v take_v any_o delight_n in_o speak_v evil_a you_o may_v loose_v it_o again_o in_o hear_v evil_a for_o my_o care_n have_v be_v not_o in_o reprove_v he_o to_o commit_v that_o myself_o which_o i_o note_v in_o he_o worthy_a of_o reproof_n his_o own_o term_n i_o may_v return_v and_o quick_a and_o tart_a speech_n differ_v from_o rail_v but_o i_o wish_v unto_o he_o the_o like_a sober_a mind_n that_o gennadius_n note_v to_o have_v be_v in_o one_o severus_n script_n who_o be_v seduce_v by_o the_o pelagian_n agnoscens_fw-la loquacitatis_fw-la culpam_fw-la silentium_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la mortem_fw-la tenuit_fw-la ut_fw-la quod_fw-la loquendo_fw-la contraxerat_fw-la tacendo_fw-la penitus_fw-la emendaret_fw-la do_o acknowledge_v his_o talkative_a fault_n and_o hold_v his_o peace_n till_o he_o die_v that_o what_o he_o have_v commit_v in_o speak_v he_o may_v amend_v in_o keep_v silence_n but_o if_o he_o find_v himself_o nettle_v shall_v begin_v to_o stir_v and_o be_v rub_v on_o the_o gall_a back_n fling_v out_o his_o heel_n again_o i_o will_v rather_o choose_v by_o silence_n to_o set_v he_o up_o as_o a_o tire_a hackney_n in_o his_o own_o dirty_a stable_n then_o to_o play_v the_o jade_n in_o kick_v at_o he_o i_o have_v lose_v too_o much_o time_n already_o from_o other_o more_o profitable_a study_n though_o i_o spend_v no_o more_o so_o yet_o if_o he_o mind_n still_o to_o brabble_n and_o contend_v about_o word_n 16._o i_o say_v with_o the_o apostle_n if_o any_o man_n list_v to_o be_v contentious_a we_o have_v no_o such_o custom_n nor_o the_o church_n of_o god_n he_o shall_v play_v his_o prize_n alone_o for_o i_o and_o move_v laughter_n upon_o his_o stage_n of_o vanity_n for_o if_o the_o replyer_n shall_v set_v his_o foot_n to_o he_o and_o take_v up_o the_o gauntles_a upon_o every_o raw_a fencer_n challenge_n it_o may_v be_v say_v of_o they_o both_o as_o demonactes_n cynicus_n of_o two_o wrangle_a disputer_n alter_fw-la ●ulget_fw-la hircum_fw-la alter_fw-la supponit_fw-la cribrum_fw-la the_o one_o milk_v a_o he_o goat_n the_o other_o put_v under_o a_o sieve_n the_o truth_n need_v no_o defence_n and_o as_o our_o bless_a saviour_n best_o answer_v pilate_n with_o silence_n so_o he_o know_v how_o to_o grace_v the_o truth_n in_o his_o member_n that_o love_v the_o truth_n even_o when_o they_o hold_v their_o peace_n 49._o and_o so_o i_o say_v with_o ambr._n ambiat_fw-la defendi_fw-la qui_fw-la metuit_fw-la super_fw-la ar●_n let_v he_o seek_v defence_n which_o be_v afraid_a to_o be_v overcome_v melior_fw-la est_fw-la causa_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la defenditur_fw-la &_o probatur_fw-la the_o cause_n be_v so_o much_o the_o better_a which_o be_v not_o defend_v and_o yet_o approve_v and_o so_o to_o conclude_v if_o he_o be_v dispose_v yet_o to_o busy_v himself_o further_o 1._o i_o send_v he_o that_o sentence_n of_o epiphanius_n for_o a_o posy_n this_o be_v natural_o graft_v in_o such_o as_o be_v give_v to_o error_n ut_fw-la contra_fw-la eos_fw-la pugnent_fw-la qui_fw-la ipsos_fw-la redarguunt_fw-la to_o fight_v against_o those_o which_o do_v reprove_v they_o finis_fw-la soli_fw-la deo_fw-la honos_fw-la &_o gloria_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d let_v god_n be_v true_a and_o every_o man_n a_o liar_n rom._n 3._o 4._o a_o table_n of_o the_o principal_a place_n of_o the_o adversary_n apology_n confute_v and_o answer_v the_o first_o figure_n show_v the_o page_n of_o the_o apology_n the_o rest_n the_o page_n of_o the_o confutation_n the_o second_o book_n which_o be_v the_o first_o of_o the_o apology_n pag._n 2._o p._n 13._o 28._o p._n 39_o pref_o p._n 4._o 134._o p._n 83._o p._n 190._o p._n 3._o pref_o p._n 6._o p._n 28._o 29_o p._n 40._o pref_o p._n 5._o p._n 12._o p._n 84._o p._n 27._o p._n 4._o p._n 99_o p._n 42._o p._n 132._o p._n 85._o p._n 86._o p._n 5._o p._n 28._o p._n 44._o p._n 44._o p._n 37._o 51._o p._n 87._o p._n 44._o p._n 7._o p._n 14._o p._n 46._o p._n 91._o p._n 89._o p._n 97._o p._n 8._o p._n 15._o 83._o p._n 48._o p._n 94._o p._n 90._o p._n 15._o p._n 10._o p._n 28._o p._n 49._o p._n 37._o p._n 91._o p._n 15._o 79._o p._n 12._o p._n 28._o 34._o 121._o p._n 50._o p._n 19_o p._n 92._o p._n 15._o 39_o p._n 13._o p._n 149._o p._n 51._o p._n 37._o 79._o p._n 94._o p._n 85._o p._n 18._o p._n 84._o p._n 52._o p._n 19_o p._n 96._o p._n 120._o p._n 19_o p._n 16._o 92._o p._n 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