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abuse_v forge_n and_o falsify_v plain_a authority_n as_o in_o this_o place_n this_o shameless_a creature_n have_v do_v in_o so_o many_o point_n for_o first_o where_o as_o s._n augustin_n say_v concupiscence_n be_v forgyven_v in_o baptism_n he_o translate_v concupiscence_n be_v not_o so_o forgyven_v in_o baptism_n secondlie_o where_o as_o s._n augustine_n say_v it_o be_v forgyven_v not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o or_o remain_v not_o he_o translate_v not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o sin_n thirdlie_o for_o impute_v into_o sin_n he_o translate_v impute_v as_o sin_n fowerthlie_a he_o cut_v of_o the_o word_n immediate_o go_v before_o where_o s._n augustin_n say_v concupiscence_n in_o the_o parent_n baptize_v be_v no_o sin_n as_o also_o the_o voorde_n immediate_o folowe_a and_o affirm_v that_o concupiscence_n remain_v but_o without_o guilt_n and_o consequent_o can_v not_o be_v sin_n have_v this_o man_n any_o conscience_n any_o truth_n any_o good_a meaning_n any_o spark_n of_o grace_n seek_v he_o to_o instruct_v or_o to_o deceyve_v to_o prove_v and_o defend_v or_o to_o cover_v &_o dissemble_v be_v this_o he_o which_o protest_v such_o sincerity_n in_o his_o deal_n as_o before_o god_n and_o angel_n be_v this_o the_o credit_n of_o a_o puritan_n protestant_n o_o how_o miserable_a be_v those_o people_n which_o hang_v their_o soul_n upon_o the_o trust_n of_o such_o dissemble_n and_o deceyve_a man_n and_o this_o for_o the_o first_o place_n cite_v by_o m._n charke_n for_o his_o sentence_n of_o s._n augustin_n for_o he_o cit_v two_o chapiter_n in_o one_o book_n the_o first_o thereof_o have_v as_o you_o have_v see_v the_o other_o have_v no_o one_o word_n tendinge_v that_o way_n but_o clean_o to_o the_o contrary_n for_o s._n augustin_n lay_v down_o &_o prove_v our_o position_n of_o purpose_n in_o much_o more_o ample_a and_o vehement_a manner_n than_o i_o can_v against_o m_o charke_n and_o show_v it_o also_o by_o example_n how_o the_o apostle_n call_v concupiscence_n sin_n improper_o 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charke_n do_v fraudulent_o allege_v his_o word_n against_o the_o same_o julian_n to_o prove_v that_o all_o concupiscence_n be_v sin_n for_o s._n augustin_n say_v only_o of_o concupiscence_n in_o general_a 3._o that_o it_o be_v sin_n and_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o cause_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v true_a of_o concupiscence_n in_o general_a as_o it_o comprehend_v all_o her_o branch_n and_o all_o estate_n of_o man_n for_o concupiscence_n be_v the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n in_o all_o man_n in_o they_o that_o gyve_v consent_v it_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o sin_n in_o they_o that_o be_v not_o baptize_v it_o be_v sin_n itself_o whether_o they_o gyve_v consent_n or_o no._n but_o yet_o be_v it_o not_o needful_a that_o all_o these_o point_n shall_v be_v verify_v in_o everye_o particular_a branch_n of_o concupiscence_n example_n as_o for_o example_n manslaughter_n in_o general_n comprehend_v murder_n chance_v medley_n execution_n by_o justice_n and_o the_o like_a and_o in_o respect_n of_o these_o branch_n a_o man_n may_v say_v
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augustin_n refute_v that_o shewe_a that_o concupiscence_n in_o general_a be_v not_o only_o a_o punishment_n for_o sin_n but_o sometime_o also_o and_o in_o some_o â—en_n it_o be_v sin_n itself_o &_o the_o cause_n of_o sin_n finem_fw-la &_o thersore_n a_o evil_a thing_n though_o no_o sin_n without_o consent_n for_o so_o he_o say_v against_o the_o same_o julian._n quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la nos_fw-la attinet_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la sen_fw-la per_fw-la essemus_fw-la donec_fw-la sanaretur_fw-la hoc_fw-la malum_fw-la si_fw-la ei_fw-la nâ—nquam_fw-la consentiremus_fw-la ad_fw-la malum_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o quibus_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la rebellame_n eâ—si_fw-la non_fw-la lethaliter_fw-la sed_fw-la venialiter_fw-la tamen_fw-la vincimur_fw-la in_fw-la hiis_fw-la contrahimus_fw-la unde_fw-la quotidie_fw-la dicamus_fw-la 6._o dimitte_v nobis_fw-la debita_fw-la nostraâ—_n â—_z as_o for_o we_o that_o be_v baptize_v we_o may_v be_v always_o without_o sin_n until_o that_o day_n when_o this_o evil_a concupiscence_n shall_v be_v heal_v that_o be_v in_o heaven_n if_o we_o will_v not_o consent_v unto_o it_o alibi_fw-la to_o evil_a but_o in_o these_o thing_n wherein_o we_o be_v overcome_v by_o this_o rebelliouse_a concupiscence_n veniallie_o at_o least_o though_o not_o mortal_o by_o these_o i_o say_v we_o gather_v matter_n daily_a to_o say_v forgyve_v we_o our_o trespass_n here_o loe_o s._n augustin_n prove_v concupiscence_n to_o be_v evil_a against_o the_o pelagian_n &_o yet_o not_o to_o be_v sin_n without_o consent_n against_o the_o protestant_n thyrdlie_o that_o accord_v to_o the_o measure_n or_o degree_n of_o consent_n yield_v it_o may_v be_v either_o venial_a or_o mortal_a sin_n against_o m._n charke_n a_o little_a before_o obstinate_o denyeinge_v this_o distinction_n of_o sin_n and_o final_o s_o augustin_n do_v not_o only_o prove_v this_o our_o position_n purposelye_o in_o almost_o infinite_a other_o place_n of_o he_o work_v but_o also_o in_o his_o second_o book_n against_o julian_n do_v confirm_v it_o by_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o other_o father_n of_o the_o church_n as_o of_o s._n ambrose_n nazianzen_n and_o other_o what_o then_o shall_v we_o say_v but_o only_a pity_n william_n charke_n which_o find_v augustin_n the_o doctor_n as_o hard_o against_o he_o in_o all_o point_n as_o augustin_n the_o monk_n the_o word_n of_o christ_n allege_v by_o you_o to_o overthrow_v our_o position_n to_o wit_n 5._o every_o one_o that_o shall_v see_v a_o woman_n to_o lust_n after_o she_o have_v now_o commit_v adultery_n with_o she_o in_o his_o hart_n be_v true_o say_v of_o the_o censure_n to_o be_v allege_v by_o you_o both_o ignorantlie_o &_o against_o yourself_o first_o for_o that_o the_o word_n hart_n there_o express_v import_v a_o consent_n without_o which_o nothing_o defile_v a_o man_n as_o may_v be_v gather_v by_o christ_n his_o own_o word_n 7._o in_o a_o other_o place_n saye_v that_o the_o thing_n which_o defile_v a_o man_n do_v proceed_v from_o the_o 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3._o li._n 3._o cont_n li._n petil._n ca._n 40._o book_n write_v in_o the_o commendation_n of_o monk_n and_o friar_n luc._n 9_o joh_n 11._o mat._n 19_o 19_o of_o the_o word_n religious_a d._n tho._n secunda_fw-la secundae_fw-la q._n 18._o art_n 1._o marc._n 10._o 1._o cor._n 7._o câ—eros_n orig._n ho._n 7._o in_o jere._n hier._n in_o 12_o jerem._n jerem._n of_o good_a &_o evel_a religious_a against_o sâ—â—pleton_n pag._n 96._o &_o whether_o the_o state_n of_o our_o monk_n &_o noâ—â—es_n be_v the_o same_o as_o be_v in_o the_o primative_a church_n 1._o cor._n 4._o heretical_a consequence_n chark_n bold_a slaunderinge_v of_o all_o religious_a people_n touch_v religious_a vow_n de_fw-fr mor._n eccl_n cap._n 31_o de_fw-la opere_fw-la monachâ—_n c._n 14._o &_o 15._o cogginge_v &_o foystinge_v in_o psal._n 75._o circa_fw-la finen_n questione_fw-la vel_fw-la regula_fw-la 14._o fusius_fw-la explicaâ—a_fw-la ep._n 6._o ad_fw-la theodorum_fw-la lapsum_fw-la heb._n 13._o nonnes_n in_o psa_fw-la 83._o lib._n count_n jovinian_a li._n 1._o ep_v 11._o li._n de_fw-fr vir_fw-la cap._n 29._o li._n ad_fw-la vir_fw-la lap_n cap._n 5._o de_fw-fr bono_fw-mi uâ—_n duitatis_fw-la c._n 9â—_n ibid._n ca._n 8._o against_o
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